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I just got the official nod from M$, and so far, this product is AWESOME!
Sync's more than Wireless Sync does, enables me to use Email and Web for Smartphone as opposed to the full bore 45 dollar feature, and just all in all makes me excited to have a cell phone again.
anyone have any gripes about MyPhone so far?
as an FYI, when I set it up o ny wife's xv6900, it took about 4 minutes, to sync her contacts, calendar, tasks, SMS, and her pictures. And I have horrid signal in my house.
Omnia here I come!
I am so glad I have a google sync-ish product for WM now. Sweet!
you know WM phones have had google sync for like a year now right?
i use it constantly, its fast, free, and reliable
thoughtlesskyle said:
you know WM phones have had google sync for like a year now right?
i use it constantly, its fast, free, and reliable
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Yeah I use google as well but myphone offers much much more: Contacts, Calendar PLUS Tasks, documents, photos. On the waiting list...
I had no idea google sync worked on winmo phones. Every time I looked it didn't give me any option like that.
Hence post.
Plus, its more comprehensive than google sync. I have used goo sync in the past, and I never liked it at all. It worked, unless my phone got swapped out for warranty or such the license was a pain to renew
yea you set it up as an active sync connection, i started using it when the 1.1 version of android was up and running, it was nice having all my contacts in both windows mobile and android
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yea you set it up as an active sync connection, i started using it when the 1.1 version of android was up and running, it was nice having all my contacts in both windows mobile and android
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as an active sync connection? so it sync's my junk frm outlook?
I probably should have specified, as an OTA sync option. That was the only reason I used wireless sync, was for OTA sync of my information.
this is over the air, but you set it up like you would an email account using active sync on the phone, so your outlook contacts wont go into it unless you have it set that way when you sync to your computer
for the full scoop go here
http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/sync.html
thoughtlesskyle said:
this is over the air, but you set it up like you would an email account using active sync on the phone, so your outlook contacts wont go into it unless you have it set that way when you sync to your computer
for the full scoop go here
http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/sync.html
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seems to be a cool product for those who use Outlook. I am not one of them, so that wouldn't work for me.
Good to see they got something going on that though.
vandebe said:
seems to be a cool product for those who use Outlook. I am not one of them, so that wouldn't work for me.
Good to see they got something going on that though.
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you don't need to use outlook, you setup an activesync connection w/ google, all your google contacts and calendar sync to the phone and vice versa. i use it to update my google calendar all the time because I don't use outlook at home.
To me, the true virtue of a backup program is the restore function. Has anybody used MyPhone to restore? How easy/difficult was it?
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To me, the true virtue of a backup program is the restore function. Has anybody used MyPhone to restore? How easy/difficult was it?
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it was actually very easy, had to do a restore tonight, and it was done the exact same way as i set the program up in the first place. didnt have to worry about which way to sync, if i wanted or merge, the program knew what i wanted to do before i told it to do so...
Good but needs work
My Phone is an excellent idea - it does so much and very simply. One of the big showstoppers for me is the lack of a decent calendar - for example the My Phone calendar isn't connected to the Live calendar. I read it's in the works but until My Phone syncs with the Live calendar then it will be only for those who don't do multiple calendars / calendar sharing etc.
I just wish I could sync my sms with google sync. It's the only thing I'm missing
Hi all Desire owners,
Can you tell me which version of HTCSync the Desire ships with?
Is it 2.0.25? I heard a rumour that it was 2.0.28?
Thanks!
yrreP said:
Hi all Desire owners,
Can you tell me which version of HTCSync the Desire ships with?
Is it 2.0.25? I heard a rumour that it was 2.0.28?
Thanks!
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Yes it is 2.0.28
can anyone tell me how well this syncs with outlook ?
as someone coming from a winmo / activesync background i'm used to everything (calendar / contacts / notes) syncing as items in outlook are updated ...
I believe it doesn't sync tasks but I may be wrong.
Yes, it will sync with outlook.
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can anyone tell me how well this syncs with outlook ?
as someone coming from a winmo / activesync background i'm used to everything (calendar / contacts / notes) syncing as items in outlook are updated ...
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It will sync with Outlook but only contacts and calendar, NO tasks.
I also had a problem getting it to sync with Office 2010 x64 version, but it works well with Office 2010 x86 verion.
How would one snyc his outlook tasks if it isn't supported by htc sync?
dragon_soft said:
It will sync with Outlook but only contacts and calendar, NO tasks.
I also had a problem getting it to sync with Office 2010 x64 version, but it works well with Office 2010 x86 verion.
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no notes ?
It is 2.0.28
Thanks for the response.
I'd like to take a look at it.. is there any chance someone can upload it somewhere me, please?
Thank you!
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no notes ?
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I find Outlook to be premitive with it's notes so I started using EverNote ...
I think this is one area where the Android is let down, full syncing capabilities. from the various syncing apps that I've seen, none yet seem to perform as well as MS ActiveSync.
sh500 said:
I think this is one area where the Android is let down, full syncing capabilities. from the various syncing apps that I've seen, none yet seem to perform as well as MS ActiveSync.
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i couldn't agree more. i started to use evernote as a workaround until i found that you can't edit noted on the device if they were created on my pc ? that makes the app completely useless to me.
perhaps evernote will update their app as i was hoping that it would replace the reliable but poor outlook notes app and one note. my search goes on ...
Hi, I bought my streak yesterday. It came pre-loaded with Android 1.6, which immediately upon switching on the device, got updated to Android 2.2.
My concern is that I am NOT ABLE TO SYNCHRONIZE my MICROSOFT OUTLOOK 2010 data like CONTACTS, TASKS, CALENDAR and MAILs to my STREAK.
Its my first android device. And for last 5 years I have been using (handheld devices/PDA's) with WINDOWS MOBILE OS with latest being HD2, and all these years, I have been very very comfortably using Activesync, to synchronize all this.
I must also mention that I have tried to do a lot of search on XDA and google, with suggestions like using third party applications, but none of them are practically working.
I am a business user and my work necessitates me to have all this outlook data (including mails) to be with me (on my handheld device) always. In fact I was delighted to read claims on XDA "There is NOTHING that an android device can not do which a winmo device can do...". But then ,this is what is the LEAST that I want to my STREAK to perform... or else I might have to return this and buy HD7!!!
Any suggestions???
VCOrganizer does it all, it sync also outlook notes and is compatible with office 2010 .
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VCOrganizer does it all, it sync also outlook notes and is compatible with office 2010 .
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Thanks 00roberto00, Let me try thsiright away and shall get back to you with feedback
Use the Touchdown app that came on the device. I had no problems synching information needed with outlook.
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VCOrganizer does it all, it sync also outlook notes and is compatible with office 2010 .
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While that is the theory, I have had problems with VCOrganizer duplicating my Contacts and corrupting my Outlook data. I don't believe that I am alone in this - look at the comments for this application in the App Market.
The best resource for understanding what applications are available to synchronise between Outlook and Android phones is http://syncdroid.net/ which has a very good chart comparing the features of each.
mhh. i had no probs.
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VCOrganizer does it all, it sync also outlook notes and is compatible with office 2010 .
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Could not get VCorganizer to try and am not ready pay unless I am sure it will really work.
I did try CompanionLink-Dejaoffice and it is disappointing. While CompanionLink is PC based application it needs Dejaoffice simultaneously, which is the device based application. And, well... it does SYNC (only contacts/calendars/tasks and not mails!!! the great disappointment is in teh fact that the contacts which are actually synced are not part of the default contact manager, and hence one can not USE it practically thorugh the dialpad for making calls, and even that incoming calls (of any saved contact) does not get recognized!!!
I am ready to pay any good amount provided I get something as useful as Activesync of Windows mobiles!!!
bennysangel said:
Use the Touchdown app that came on the device. I had no problems synching information needed with outlook.
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Thanks Bennysangel.
Touchdown is an exchange server client. I mean I am not sure if it will really do the needful as Activesync (desktop Activesync- for Winodws mobiles). i did google to read more about it, but as I read, it is not going to the job... that is SYNCING CONTACTS (in the default contacts managers of froyo), SYNCING MAILS and TASKS/CALENDARS!!!
Bennysangel, can you please guide me on this Touchdown with your experience on it. Thanks again.
anyway u cant sync emails even with VCOrganizer. for email sync u need some exchange client/server.
the first time u sync contacs with VCO it duplicates (its also stated on them FAQs) but after 2nd sync everything goes ok.
before VCO I tried anything else but this was the only app syncing also outlook notes and working with the 64bit office 2010
Ravindra9 said:
I am ready to pay any good amount provided I get something as useful as Activesync of Windows mobiles!!!
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I think that we are both looking for something that doesn't exist. It is not in Google's interest to make it easy for users to sync an Android phone with a Microsoft product. Google's model is based on people storing their data on their servers (where they can commercially exploit that data), and not locally on their PCs in a format which is proprietary to one of their main competitors (Microsoft).
Don't forget that ActiveSync was a Microsoft product which synchronised between two other Microsoft products (Outlook and WinMo). Perhaps you should consider a WinMo7 phone (and if there was one with a screen as big as the Streak, that's what I would probably buy)?
My personal experience is that many of the solutions which sound as if they will do the job do not live up to their advertising. I have tried a number of them now, and have had all sorts of problems (duplicated entries, corrupt data, removal of Category/Priority/Note information, incorrect date/time, etc).
As I have mentioned before, there is an extremely comprehensive list of the synchronisation solutions which are available at the Syncdroid web site. and if you do find any which are not listed there, please let the web master know, as he will add them.
Philip said:
I think that we are both looking for something that doesn't exist. It is not in Google's interest to make it easy for users to sync an Android phone with a Microsoft product. Google's model is based on people storing their data on their servers (where they can commercially exploit that data), and not locally on their PCs in a format which is proprietary to one of their main competitors (Microsoft).
Don't forget that ActiveSync was a Microsoft product which synchronised between two other Microsoft products (Outlook and WinMo). Perhaps you should consider a WinMo7 phone (and if there was one with a screen as big as the Streak, that's what I would probably buy)?
My personal experience is that many of the solutions which sound as if they will do the job do not live up to their advertising. I have tried a number of them now, and have had all sorts of problems (duplicated entries, corrupt data, removal of Category/Priority/Note information, incorrect date/time, etc).
As I have mentioned before, there is an extremely comprehensive list of the synchronisation solutions which are available at the Syncdroid web site. and if you do find any which are not listed there, please let the web master know, as he will add them.
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Thanks Philip, you are very precisely hitting the nail in the head!!!
The only reason I got attracted to buy this STREAK is due to its huge screen size- which genuinely gives the pleasure of a mobile phone cum tablet!!! I agree with you that I should prefer to buy a Windows Phone device however there is unfortunately NO other device with 5 inch screen, the nearest being HTC HD7. I am seriously considering giving up this Streak and buy HD7 now.
And for that matter, it would be a welcome if there could be some chef who could cook a WINDOWS MOBILE ROM (be it 6.5.x also if not windows phoen 7 OS ROM!!!) that I can flash on STREAK
Ravindra9 said:
Hi, I bought my streak yesterday. It came pre-loaded with Android 1.6, which immediately upon switching on the device, got updated to Android 2.2.
My concern is that I am NOT ABLE TO SYNCHRONIZE my MICROSOFT OUTLOOK 2010 data like CONTACTS, TASKS, CALENDAR and MAILs to my STREAK.
Its my first android device. And for last 5 years I have been using (handheld devices/PDA's) with WINDOWS MOBILE OS with latest being HD2, and all these years, I have been very very comfortably using Activesync, to synchronize all this.
I must also mention that I have tried to do a lot of search on XDA and google, with suggestions like using third party applications, but none of them are practically working.
I am a business user and my work necessitates me to have all this outlook data (including mails) to be with me (on my handheld device) always. In fact I was delighted to read claims on XDA "There is NOTHING that an android device can not do which a winmo device can do...". But then ,this is what is the LEAST that I want to my STREAK to perform... or else I might have to return this and buy HD7!!!
Any suggestions???
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Hi,
The Dell PC Suite syncs contacts, calendar, tasks & notes with Outlook. have you tried that?
http://support.dell.com/support/top...71813763D71D397E040AC0A65E96FA0&isLegacy=true
Insane Devil said:
Hi,
The Dell PC Suite syncs contacts, calendar, tasks & notes with Outlook. have you tried that?
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Doesn't work with 2.2, only with 2.1 sadly.
See this page on syncdroid.net.
Philip said:
Doesn't work with 2.2, only with 2.1 sadly.
See this page on syncdroid.net.
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Yes mate thats correct tried it a couple of weeks ago .
But when a was reading this thread i thought i would just have a look at dells page to see if its been updated,
Anyway downloaded the latest version installed it coupled up my baby and all was fine synced music, pics, outlook contacts and the rest, so it seems to be OK now .
Give it a try
lufc said:
Anyway downloaded the latest version installed it coupled up my baby and all was fine synced music, pics, outlook contacts and the rest, so it seems to be OK now .
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Now I'm confused.
Are you referring to the Nero software that Dell are using with FroYo, rather than the discontinued Dell PC Suite? If so, I understood that it only syncs Contacts from Microsoft Outlook (not least because Dell have removed the Task and Notes applications from 2.2 that they had provided with 2.1).
When you say "all the rest", do you mean that it syncs Calendar, Tasks and Notes from Outlook? If so, what applications does it use on the phone to access Tasks and Notes?
Philip said:
Now I'm confused.
Are you referring to the Nero software that Dell are using with FroYo, rather than the discontinued Dell PC Suite? If so, I understood that it only syncs Contacts from Microsoft Outlook (not least because Dell have removed the Task and Notes applications from 2.2 that they had provided with 2.1).
When you say "all the rest", do you mean that it syncs Calendar, Tasks and Notes from Outlook? If so, what applications does it use on the phone to access Tasks and Notes?
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You are right on that score philip just contacts, sorry for the confusion
I had been searching for a way to sync my work calendar in Outlook 2007 to Google properly so I can get my work calendar on my phone. Everything I tried would only sync meetings, appointments, etc. which I had created, and not items I had been invited to, or which were created by other people. The following software did a 1st class sync of my contacts and calendar:
CompanionLink
I am still using the trial which is 100% functional for 14 days, and it seems to do exactly what I needed. Thought I would share this with you. It's expensive to buy after trial, but if it continues to auto sync OK for me, I will be buying it.
If its a work calendar, I am assuming they use Exchange. Why not connect to the Exchange server directly?
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willgill said:
If its a work calendar, I am assuming they use Exchange. Why not connect to the Exchange server directly?
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Can't, company blocks Android ATM because it's not secure enough, otherwise I would do that. If you have BB or iPhone you can connect to exchange..........Android phone is SOL until possibly 3.0.
<edit> That's for company I work for and not a general statement. Every form of media I use from laptop HDD to thumb drives is encrypted.
I can't post a link but you can try syncing your outlook with google calendar. search for "sync with Microsoft outlook" on the Google calendar help and you'll find it quickly. a small little software that does magic!
or search for "Google Calendar sync" software...
CaelanT said:
Can't, company blocks Android ATM because it's not secure enough, otherwise I would do that. If you have BB or iPhone you can connect to exchange..........Android phone is SOL until possibly 3.0.
<edit> That's for company I work for and not a general statement. Every form of media I use from laptop HDD to thumb drives is encrypted.
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Same with the company I work for so I use Google Calendar sync and it works perfectly.
I did use Companion Link initially, and actually they will even return your money if you decide that you don't need it within 90 days (don't remember exactly) . It is very useful if you sync Tasks, contacts, etc with Outlook, similar to what DM does for BB or Active Sync for WM.
If you want just the calendar then go for the Google Calendar Sync.
Time4Android said:
I can't post a link but you can try syncing your outlook with google calendar. search for "sync with Microsoft outlook" on the Google calendar help and you'll find it quickly. a small little software that does magic!
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Time4Android said:
or search for "Google Calendar sync" software...
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If you read the OP you would see I am offering up a way to do this, not asking how to do it! This software runs on my laptop and does sync Outlook with Google calendar! The Google sync application doesn't work worth a snuff.
charlyee said:
Same with the company I work for so I use Google Calendar sync and it works perfectly.
I did use Companion Link initially, and actually they will even return your money if you decide that you don't need it within 90 days (don't remember exactly) . It is very useful if you sync Tasks, contacts, etc with Outlook, similar to what DM does for BB or Active Sync for WM.
If you want just the calendar then go for the Google Calendar Sync.
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Google's calendar sync isn't very good, and is poorly supported. I agree with you regarding Companion Link, and it has worked flawlessly for me since I started using it.
Thanks for sharing your experience CaelanT!
I've heard a lot good things about CompanionLink but can anyone confirm if there is a lag in opening the Deja apps (i.e., DejaContacts, DejaCalendar)?
Since you're not using the native contacts or calendar on your device, can you simply remove these icons from your homescreen and replace them with the CompanionLink DejaContacts?
Well, Google Calendar Sync works perfectly well for me!
Nickerz said:
Thanks for sharing your experience CaelanT!
I've heard a lot good things about CompanionLink but can anyone confirm if there is a lag in opening the Deja apps (i.e., DejaContacts, DejaCalendar)?
Since you're not using the native contacts or calendar on your device, can you simply remove these icons from your homescreen and replace them with the CompanionLink DejaContacts?
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This I can't tell you. I haven't messed with that.
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Pat123 said:
Well, Google Calendar Sync works perfectly well for me!
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Google has come out with a new version since I originally posted this. It still does not sync my meetings correctly. There are several known issues with this and outlook, exchange, meeting room manager, etc.
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Google has come out with a new version since I originally posted this. It still does not sync my meetings correctly. There are several known issues with this and outlook, exchange, meeting room manager, etc.
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Google Calendar Sync has been working fine for me. I'm on Exchange.
bleuiko said:
Google Calendar Sync has been working fine for me. I'm on Exchange.
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You have the meeting room manager add on?
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We do not use Exchange, but I do use Outlook on my desktop. I use funambol to sync calendar & contacts (inc photos), both ways. It has options to sync files too. You need a client on the PC/laptop running Outlook and an Android client.
It's free so maybe also worth considering.
I want to be able to sync between the Atrix and my PC, without going to Google Calender. I don't trust Google's contacts and calenders since I have read so many issues with them. Plus they are on the net, which means they can be hacked.
I will have to try CompanionLink and Funambol. When I initially set up Google Contacts from my old phone (Tilt) to the Android via Google, they got really scrambled. It was done at the store using their standard automated routine. So now I am real leary of Google's Calender and Contacts.
I tried many of these sync programs. I use tasks and notes, beside contacts and calendar. Just about evey program I found had issues. I finally found VCOrganizer Pro. It is a nice little package. It has it's own contacts, calendar, tasks and notes applications. It syncs with it's own applications and the native Google contacts and calendar applications also if you desire. It will sync with more than one PC and keeps the items seperate. This is great for people who like the seperation. I however like to keep the contacts and calendar in sync on both my personal and work PCs. I contacted Vecal about this and they said this is an improvement they are working on now and should be out soon. Right now, I sync my Atrix with my home PC and use my old Windows Mobile phone to keep my home PC in sync with my work PC, Once Vecal let me sync with both PCs and keep both in sync, it will be perfect.
dlweston said:
I tried many of these sync programs. I use tasks and notes, beside contacts and calendar. Just about evey program I found had issues. I finally found VCOrganizer Pro.
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I'll give the free version a try before I think about buying.
Cheers!
Ok after running WinMo phones since their inception I have moved to Android
First thing I want to Do with my new S2 is sync with outlook...contacts, notes, tasks etc
What can I use to get all the data accross not just say contacts
Can I use Kies ?
Do a Google for CompanionLink
Thanks but $50 or $130 to sync to outlook seems insane
The latest & greatest and I cant just plug it in & sync
May as well send it back and keep my HD2
Use Samsung Kies. Its free to download from Samsung website.
i came from winmo and found it a real struggle to sync with outlook. you have to get used to everyone ignoring your question and telling you just to sync with google.
try kies - if that doesn't work, look for myphoneexplorer. it's also free, works flawlessly and is the closest thing i can find to activesync ...
I just found this page http://www.syncdroid.net/
Incredible... I have to [email protected]#k around with 40 pieces of software for a solution
The best phone cant even talk to one of the most widely used pieces of software
My very first windows phone at least did contacts flawlessly..I remember purchasing some software to sync notes...BUT that was 8 years ago!!
I've never had any Apple products because I dont like being told which way to do things and now Google seems no better
What a let down
You probably won't like this but there's a solution. For about $10 a month you can use an Exchange hosting service. In addition to all the syncs you're looking for you get true push e-mail and don't have to use any of the Google apps. It's elegant but not free.
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Look for Gsyncit I think its called.
Joe
Hi
just look at "MyPhoneExplorer" this is a grate soft and free.
regds
Henri
parianos said:
Hi
just look at "MyPhoneExplorer" this is a grate soft and free.
regds
Henri
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^ doesnt do notes or tasks according to the table on syncdroid.net
exchange active sync works for me. i get all my email on my android
Sorry man, thanks to all these corporations wanting to own your sould they do their best to keep you from being able to move cross platform. A real pia and yeah, people here don't seem to get that many organizations do not want any of their stuff going across third party data harvesting outfits (i.e. gmail) and they are not going to change any time soon. IMO you either deal with the crap workarounds or move on because things have been stagnant on this front from the start, there has been little movement up till now, and no sign of any real improvement in sight.
You don't need "crap workarounds" with Samsung Android phones - they Outlook sync either via USB or WiFi using Kies just fine. And this sync completely bypasses Google.
Its not a feature of Android in general, but something Samsung adds to their customized Android builds.
Nitrodesk
bocsta said:
Ok after running WinMo phones since their inception I have moved to Android
First thing I want to Do with my new S2 is sync with outlook...contacts, notes, tasks etc
What can I use to get all the data accross not just say contacts
Can I use Kies ?
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my friend, the best tool to manage outlook, is TouchDown from nitrodesk.
I use Gsyncit. I works very well.
Ingvarr said:
You don't need "crap workarounds" with Samsung Android phones - they Outlook sync either via USB or WiFi using Kies just fine. And this sync completely bypasses Google.
Its not a feature of Android in general, but something Samsung adds to their customized Android builds.
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I'm in the same boat...just moved from winmo and thought it would be easy....no it doesn't sync with kies just fine
Try Kies...it's not as intuitive as the almost invisable active sync
I have got my contacts accross although multiple address books look to have not been kept separate
I also havent check that 100% of whats in outlook has come accross as there are multiple fields
Pros coming across from WinMo:
- smooth op system
- havent pulled my battery once yet ..just as well as the cover is made of paper
Negs
- all that battery sucking stuff functions better, is easier to turn on and leave on so the juice dissapears just like before
parianos said:
Hi
just look at "MyPhoneExplorer" this is a grate soft and free.
regds
Henri
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Thanks Henri
I was ready to throw my new phone against the wall till I found this.
Sam
Install Google calender sync on your PC, that will sync Outlook to your Gmail account.
Then set your phones calender to sync to that same Gmail account and all will be handled automatically for you.
For free, may I add.
"Local" sync with active sync doesnt require any "sharing" with microsoft in the cloud which is why people dont want to share with google in the cloud
why should you have to get a Gmail account just cos you have a Android phone?