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Hi to all the Tmobile users out there. Anyone have the nexus one on Tmobile network WITHOUT data plan? As far as I know all you have to do is buy the unlock nexus one and pop in a sim card right? (does Tmobile have the same system as ATT that automatically force you into a data plan?)
NexusX said:
Hi to all the Tmobile users out there. Anyone have the nexus one on Tmobile network WITHOUT data plan? As far as I know all you have to do is buy the unlock nexus one and pop in a sim card right? (does Tmobile have the same system as ATT that automatically force you into a data plan?)
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AFAIK, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but you can pop a SIM-card with an "data-less" associated T-Mobile account and the phone will work. Data won't, and I don't believe T-Mobile will force you to buy a data plan.
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Kermee
Never mind.. Not thinking correctly.
If you buy the phone unlocked, there's nothing to activate. You just pop in your sim and go.
I bought the unlocked Att nexus, and i'm using my old data plan without a problem (so far). I haven't been contacted or forced into a more expensive data plan or anything like that, though I guess your experience may vary.
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If you buy the phone unlocked, there's nothing to activate. You just pop in your sim and go.
I bought the unlocked Att nexus, and i'm using my old data plan without a problem (so far). I haven't been contacted or forced into a more expensive data plan or anything like that, though I guess your experience may vary.
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I forgot on the n1 that you can skip the google account setup process.. Lol..
I pop my sim card the first time and try syncing it on a SIM WITHOUT data plan, it connected to 3G and edge to retrieve email and stuffs then I disconnected the Edge and 3G right after. They didn't charge me for the amount of data usage because it was under 600KB. Hope this help
Thank you guys, yeah I wanted ATT, but after sporadic report that they force some Nexus users to have data plan, I now have to consider Tmobile, hopefully they don't suck too much in DC area
NexusX said:
Thank you guys, yeah I wanted ATT, but after sporadic report that they force some Nexus users to have data plan, I now have to consider Tmobile, hopefully they don't suck too much in DC area
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Thats ridiculous, how does that even make sense? There is NO way a company can force you into a new data plan because you bought a phone on your own terms.
That is 100% bull ****, it's not true.
izmar said:
Thats ridiculous, how does that even make sense? There is NO way a company can force you into a new data plan because you bought a phone on your own terms.
That is 100% bull ****, it's not true.
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You may feel it's not right, but they do it. Many people trying to use t-mobile nexus ones on at&t got hit with the automatic data plan addition. It looks like most people with at&t ones are getting away without it so far, oddly enough, but that may change at some point in the future.
izmar said:
Thats ridiculous, how does that even make sense? There is NO way a company can force you into a new data plan because you bought a phone on your own terms.
That is 100% bull ****, it's not true.
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It's 100% true and it's stated in the contract agreement.
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You may feel it's not right, but they do it. Many people trying to use t-mobile nexus ones on at&t got hit with the automatic data plan addition. It looks like most people with at&t ones are getting away without it so far, oddly enough, but that may change at some point in the future.
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It will change when Google releases the IMEI's for those handsets.
T-Mobile doesn't force a data plan on a customer supplied handset. Only when you buy it under a new 2 year agreement.. that's what AT&T, Sprint and Verizon does.
Yup. They'll even send you a text to warn you!
Not for everybody but since I live in CA there's no way I would ever change from T-Mo. Great coverage with good options on pricing.
Option A) T-Mo --- $40/mo data only plan I can make VOIP calls with
Option B) Verizon/ATT's --- $70/mo ripoff with cell phone minutes I dont even use?
I'd much rather take option a and save $720 a month over a 24 month period thank you very much.
Verizon and ATT might be the only option for some people coverage wise but that doesnt change the fact that they are terrible companies that force their customers to buy extra plan packages they dont want just so they can steal an extra $30 a month from people instead of giving them options on what they want and dont want.
Give me choices and I'm a happy customer.
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Not for everybody but since I live in CA there's no way I would ever change from T-Mo. Great coverage with good options on pricing.
Option A) T-Mo --- $40/mo data only plan I can make VOIP calls with
Option B) Verizon/ATT's --- $70/mo ripoff with cell phone minutes I dont even use?
I'd much rather take option a and save $720 a month over a 24 month period thank you very much.
Verizon and ATT might be the only option for some people coverage wise but that doesnt change the fact that they are terrible companies that force their customers to buy extra plan packages they dont want just so they can steal an extra $30 a month from people instead of giving them options on what they want and dont want.
Give me choices and I'm a happy customer.
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With AT&T I think you can get the data plan only (no minutes) for $5 extra on top of the data plan price. So $35/mo for unlimited data, no voice service. That's what I've been told, but you may wanna check for yourself.
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With AT&T I think you can get the data plan only (no minutes) for $5 extra on top of the data plan price. So $35/mo for unlimited data, no voice service. That's what I've been told, but you may wanna check for yourself.
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?! interesting...
I'm looking online but does anyone have this that can confirm?
I was wondering if i can use unlocked tmobile htc hd2 with the $10 data plan (unlimited) that is available for non smartphones. Will tmobile realize that i am using htc hd2 and upgrade it to smartphone data plan? i am gonna make a contract with a non smartphone and add that 10 dollar data plan to use it on my htc hd2 Do you have to have an Unlocked htc hd2 (not tmobile branded) to do that? is it even possible either way?
Yes it is possible to do such a thing, but for how long is currently unknown. T-Mobile has recently started denying people using the non-smartphone internet with smartphones internet access as it is a violation of the TOS...so good luck!
So i can do it with the tmobile branded unlocked htc hd2? but dont they know that i i am using htc hd2 if i use the 10$ data plan and automatically upgrade it?
Yes they will know you are using an HD2, and yes, it is possible that they will upgrade it automatically. My advice; just opt for the 20USD unlimited smartphone data from the start...you won't have to setup the proxy or live in fear that your plan will be upgraded.
Isnt it 30 USD? if it was 20 then i can probably get the data plan but i am pretty sure the data plan is $30. Wait so if you dont get the $10 data plan on the tmobile branded unlocked htc hd2, will they know its a hd2?
There's no way to get around it. They will know what phone you're using. I do not know if they will make a change to your plan without confirming with you.
I don't know how you will actually enable the $10 plan in the first place though.
Thats a good point aswell. You have to have a device that supports the 10USD plan to even add it to your plan, so you may not be able to anyways. And the full internet is either 20 or 30 depending on your contract arrangement.
I recently got my phone and it's working for me. I get HSDPA speed with the $10 internet.
Yeah it should work.... just so you know you are defrauding the T-Mobile network. There's still a lot folks out there that are apparently still on the T-Zone plan as well....
Actually if you know or are familiar with those Asian run phone shops and ask nicely you don't even need a dumb phone to setup the $10 plan, the reps that work there will just call T-mobile and defraud the whole system for you.....
Yeah... that's just jolly.
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Yeah it should work.... just so you know you are defrauding the T-Mobile network. There's still a lot folks out there that are apparently still on the T-Zone plan as well....
Actually if you know or are familiar with those Asian run phone shops and ask nicely you don't even need a dumb phone to setup the $10 plan, the reps that work there will just call T-mobile and defraud the whole system for you.....
Yeah... that's just jolly.
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Does it really bother you that somebody else has a good deal going with t-zones on the HD2? If it makes you feel better, T-Mobile will probably be forcing users to upgrade their plans starting this Wednesday.
Yeah to me it kinda does, because they know they are screwing the system but continue to do it. Anyways I formally ask that this NOT turn into another debate about the morallity of people using the 10USD plan versus the correct one. Thanks.
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Does it really bother you that somebody else has a good deal going with t-zones on the HD2? If it makes you feel better, T-Mobile will probably be forcing users to upgrade their plans starting this Wednesday.
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Bother me, nope.? I don't even have data plan... i refuse to pay for it when i can get free wifi @ my home/campus/work....
The OP asked a question and i voiced his options, all of them.... whether he chooses to to take the dark route or not is his business. In addition i don't see how you can justify calling T-Zones as "has a good deal going" when you are in fact defrauding the network, which i have clearly pointed out in my previous response. My advice is pretty much borderline crack pot shady... but it's been discussed about here numerous times and t-mobile has done nothing to fix his loophole.... yet...
Just to add about the $20 internet plan. I have it for my HD2 (part of family plan), the rep added it when we were renewing the contract and ordering the phones (my sister got the 3G slide which came with the $25 plan). So if you want it, try calling them and talking to a rep, they should be able to add it for you (YMMV).
T-mobile can block you at any time since they do have a database of their own IMEIs and they know what device is accessing their network by it's IEMI that is transmitted every time the phone accesses the network.
It would be a very simple task for T-mobile to block the non supported devices for that data plan
Well here is what happend when I upgraded one of my lines. I just upgraded to an HD2, a couple days later theytossed on a 104 web plan. Which is fine cuz I want to use the web anyways. when I first was using my HD2 it said that it needed a subcription to access the web, blah blah. So, i changed the wap settings to internet2.voicestream.com and it works great. 3g speeds and everything.
Why did you change to the slower proxy?
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Why did you change to the slower proxy?
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The stock epc.tmo doesnt work when you have the 104 (non smart phone plan). The speeds are the same with the internet2 settings. unless you know of a different one that works a well. It works just fine.
I had a phone recently, Nokia 5530, and had the 10 dollar internet plan and I noticed depending where I was in the country I sometimes would get full internet access and other times I would get off the standard tzone areas and it would show subscription upgrade required message.
I think it might depend on where you live for this to work. Perhaps the WAP settings might also work.
There is a way to get the $10 t-zone plan on your HD2
Here is a simple way to get the t-zone on your HD2..
1) Login to your t-mobile account via the web.. register first if you haven't do so.
2) when you login, T-mobile might choose your phone (maybe HD2 already selected).. at this moment, change your phone to any non-smartphone.. like samsung T509 or any non-smartphone as your default phone.
3) go to change service and add the $10 t-zone internet to your plan
4) set your HD2 with the right APN setting you're OK.
5) For me, if you're using internet2.voicestream.com in Winmo works OK and in Android works OK.
This is a cheated way or gray area... Either way T-mobile make extra $$$ from you. I think T-mobile knows this loop hole, but they keep it open because they don't want to upset us cheapie????
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did they get rid of this? I do not see the option anymore.
So, my father is considering getting a 3g/4g 7" tablet, with google voice (thanks cajunflavoredbob for helping me figure that one out) to make calls/texts.
The entire extended family is on a massive Verizion family plan, something like 20 people. EVERYONE has unlimited calls/texts/data, even the couple dumbphone people we have on the plan. (not my decision, i don't pay the bill, but i fully support it )
Is there any way you could, with the setup we have, transfer the grandfathered data plan from his DX2 to a tablet, keeping it unlimited, but dropping the texts/voice (which you can't use with a tablet anyways?)
he says he won't do it unless he can keep his unlimited data. he uses ~3.5 gigs a month, and getting a 5gb/m data plan is completely out of the question.
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So, my father is considering getting a 3g/4g 7" tablet, with google voice (thanks cajunflavoredbob for helping me figure that one out) to make calls/texts.
The entire extended family is on a massive Verizion family plan, something like 20 people. EVERYONE has unlimited calls/texts/data, even the couple dumbphone people we have on the plan. (not my decision, i don't pay the bill, but i fully support it )
Is there any way you could, with the setup we have, transfer the grandfathered data plan from his DX2 to a tablet, keeping it unlimited, but dropping the texts/voice (which you can't use with a tablet anyways?)
he says he won't do it unless he can keep his unlimited data. he uses ~3.5 gigs a month, and getting a 5gb/m data plan is completely out of the question.
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I don't have Verizon as my service provider, but if they are anything like T-Mobile or any other carrier, then I would say that no, this is not possible. I've had the same plan on T-Mobile for seven years now and have been off contract for five. If I were to change any aspect of my plan, I would loose all of it because none of it exists anymore.
The best I can suggest is to give them a call and find out if you can drop all but data on your plan. The problem would be adding it back if you ever decide you want it again, I would think. Most carriers do not allow data only plans because they make all their money on all the voice charges that no one uses anymore. (Ever notice how the feature you use the least is the most expensive?)
tablets can't have voice or text plans tho. And verizion... well they're over-the-phone customer service has never been good to me thought i'd ask here first.
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tablets can't have voice or text plans tho. And verizion... well they're over-the-phone customer service has never been good to me thought i'd ask here first.
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There are a couple of 7" tablets that are allowed voice and text plans on T-Mobile. It just depends on the cellular radio packed inside them. I'm not a Verizon customer, so I'm not entirely certain what you guys are offered. It couldn't hurt to ask them. What's the worst they can do? Say no? Honestly, I don't think they would allow it, but I would still ask. You might get lucky.
REALLY? out of curiosity, which tabs w/ voice&txt can you got over there?
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REALLY? out of curiosity, which tabs w/ voice&txt can you got over there?
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I believe the Dell Streak 7 was capable of this. I'll ask azrienoch. He was the one using it who showed me it could be done. It was a while back that his phone broke down and he had to use the tablet as a phone for a while. I think there is one more, but the Flyer is the only other tablet that I recall T-Mobile having, and I don't believe that one has a GSM radio. Either way, I don't think Verizon has any that have a cellular radio for voice service.
well flashing to pageplus was really easy through QPST and getting the MIN/phone number from kittywireless to do the OTA flash.
I know we have Pageplus, Cricket, Virgin Mobile, Boost, and MetroPCS to flash our Epic 4G other than Sprint as a carrier. My question is, other than pageplus and cricket, the rest needs donor phones? I was checking out virgin mobile, because the 3g speeds in chicago looks good and the price is right for me, and the $25 plan is pretty good stuff.
Most of the folks here are getting Crickets unlimited $55 plans, but I mostly use wifi, and I want a little data for here and there, and also I dont use a lot of minutes since I mostly use sip/voip via wifi.
For the services that require a donor phone, does it usually have to be a android or smartphone? Not the cheap flipphone with wap you see at walgreens, cvs ? Seems like to switch over to Boost, MetroPCS, Virgin, it would cost at least $50-$70 for a donor phone.. So im wondering if theres a cheap alternative.
And regarding cricket, I was looking at their pamplet and regarding their paygo service, $1 a day unlimited calls/data whenever you use it, I was told by online sales chat that I need to activate that service at a local store. Is that unlimited mobile WAP type data? Or 3g data? Kind of confusing..
I already have my QPST ready to go, save the file ready to write when I get my MIN/phone number to flash my epic 4g. does their online activation provide a phone number so I can use to prepare QPST and flash my phone with the roaming file etc. and do a OTA activation? Or anyone know of some online dealer like kitty that does that and provide the phone number to you? I called a few stores around here, and they just tell me they dont deal with non cricket phones, or "know" how to activate non cricket phones. I guess they just dont want to waste time dealing with a customer not spending big bucks...
Thanks guys, and no need to explain about anything legal or illegal, everything posted is for educational purposes or fictional writing and reading jk
Along the same lines - anyone know of a site that compares all the MVNO/Prepaid services for cost/features?
I know some folks out there are getting crazy good deals - Virgin seems like a good way to go although I think they raised their plan to $35 recently. That is still good for basically the same service sprint provides sans VZ roaming. I have only heard of getting Virgin/Boost through a donor phone and as you said they are selling for quite a bit simply because lots of people are buying them to use as donor phones so the price goes up.
Hopefully some others will chime in with some good options, good luck!
I can only vouch for Virgin Mobile..
Being someone who volunteers with only donations as a source of income, I can tell you that while it isn't cheap, it was still do-able and affordable, (Even for me!)
You save according to street smart vs convenience. There are overhead expenses that are residual and one-time when making the switch.
On Virgin Mobile, you need an Android Smartphone, preferably one that can be read, or you may be left out in the cold with nobody being able to assist you very far.
Seeing that Virgin Mobile stores weren't anywhere around me, I simply bought one from across the states for 68$, A Virgin Mobile Samsung Intercept. Costs will vary, with the most convenient method being walking into Wal-Mart and buying a brand new one for $100, or so.
Now, say you want to keep your current number, you'll need to keep the old company's bill paid, as well as pay for the first month of your new Virgin Mobile Phone, to port the number over.
After that is done, you need to pay up the 35$ cost to start up your first month of Virgin Mobile. You can then end your ex-carrier, without worries.
From there, you follow the guide I wrote up on Virgin Mobile, and enjoy your Samsung Epic 4G on Virgin Mobile with CM9 Beta 2.
Or you could do another company like boost and add more steps to the process.
Ouch so you pretty much verified the cons of switching to virgin due to the use of donor phones. This is probably a good deal for most people that has virgin for their area and the plans are pretty cheap. The pamphlet i saw has a $25 plan and $35 which i think includes 1500mins and 30gb data. People who needs this should talk to ^^^ I thought about this route but want to see other alternatives due to my circumstances
So what about cricket? Is anyone on paygo plan or the $1 once you make 1 phone call or use data which allows you unlimited usage for the day. I barely use my pageplus minutes and use sip for phone calls through wifi. I dont text because i have a thing about obsessive texting and being anti social so i rather talk on the phone or face to face. So the paygo plan looks attractive as i could be using crickets service 10 to 15 days out of the month. But when i was at walgreens looking at pamphlets and seen mobile data instead of 3g data so i wanted to confirm those who used the per day prepaid plans that you get 3g data. Also is it $1 or $2 a day with the data.
pageplus working great on cm9 but for talk text. Data is slow and expensive around 100kbit/s.
Kinda OT but for the member above, you seem very knowledgable and appreciate your reply because i understand and appreciate your help for folks that dont have the time to figure it out. My question is when im on cm9 and even tho7ugh i disabled my sprint profiles in qpst, if i turn on 4g it connects to sprint still. Is that a eeprom preprogrammed deal and not removable? Not like i want to but im interested in figuring out how that works. I know it connects and you do get a dhcp addy and a gateway and pair of dns addys. Obviously its not usable but is there any info on how retains its instructions to connect to sprint when you enable 4g?
And again if anyone know someone online that can activate the cricket paygo service and provide a min/phone number after paying for the $15 activation so i can ota activate? Or does cricket provide it when you do it online on the website?
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well I switched my friends epic and wife's to straight talk with the doner phone that costs 5 bucks on Walmart website. We are on the vzw side of straight talk and the 3g speeds are pretty good. The only kicker for the epic is you need a doner and a vzw phone to get the 3g info to place on your epic. My wife and I pay 3 months at a time and since we live in Cali no tax which brings the total cost down to 42 a month for all unlimited. The only thing that doesn't work right out of the gate is mms but the same is true for cricket with the epic. Service has been great and the coverage is the same as vzw prepaid. There's a tut on how to do it by justan in the general section.
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I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 4 in the very near future, and I'm interested in seeing what might be the best provider for my needs.
My main interest is data. Having unlimited of it would be perfect (actually unlimited, not like 2GB and then shut-off notice or something like that).
I am also interested in tethering. Currently, I would only be interested in using my Nexus 10, and nothing else, but perhaps later on down the road I might get a laptop as well. Just want a plan that doesn't charge an additional fee for tethering (or at the least, a one-time fee; nothing recurring), and allows for tethering even. I don't plan to use huge amounts of data while tethering either, just maybe check some emails, G+, play some multiplayer games (GW2, PoE, etc.), and chat to friends over XMPP and Steam. No "major" downloading or anything like that (or very little of it; maybe the occasional 100MB game might need updating on my tablet like Shadowgun).
Voice minutes isn't too dire for me. Don't plan on talking too much, and if the minutes aren't unlimited, I'd just hope texting is, or I can fallback to Google Voice even.
I've checked out StraightTalk, Simple Mobile, and T-Mobile prepaid. From what I hear, the first two aren't too keen on tethering, and have some invisible data limit that if hit, they can cancel your service (but perhaps I've heard wrong, or maybe this was in the past). There was another plan I checked out (Solavi or something) but their privacy policy on shared info didn't seem too good, and I hear they too don't like tethering and have an invisible data limit.
I'm somewhat interested in T-Mobile's $30 prepaid plan. Unlimited data is pretty nice (the 4G is also nice, but my area is only 2G only according to their map). Not entirely sure on T-Mo's stance on tethering. I don't really see myself using more than 100 voice minutes a month, but if I understand right, it's like $0.33 per minute after that, or I can buy minutes with a T-Mo prepaid card. I currently have an old full-sized T-Mo prepaid SIM card lying around. Hoping I can just make this micro, pop it in, and then sign-up for the $30/month prepaid thing on T-Mo's site without problem.
But simply put, I need a plan with unlimited data, calling/text (doesn't have to be unlimited, but I need them nonetheless) and no strict-stance on tethering. Being under $50/month would be awesome I'm also in the United States, and don't plan on doing anything international, in the near future anyway. Should I go with T-Mobile's $30/month prepaid plan, or is there another provider I should look at instead?
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I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 4 in the very near future, and I'm interested in seeing what might be the best provider for my needs.
My main interest is data. Having unlimited of it would be perfect (actually unlimited, not like 2GB and then shut-off notice or something like that).
I am also interested in tethering. Currently, I would only be interested in using my Nexus 10, and nothing else, but perhaps later on down the road I might get a laptop as well. Just want a plan that doesn't charge an additional fee for tethering (or at the least, a one-time fee; nothing recurring), and allows for tethering even. I don't plan to use huge amounts of data while tethering either, just maybe check some emails, G+, play some multiplayer games (GW2, PoE, etc.), and chat to friends over XMPP and Steam. No "major" downloading or anything like that (or very little of it; maybe the occasional 100MB game might need updating on my tablet like Shadowgun).
Voice minutes isn't too dire for me. Don't plan on talking too much, and if the minutes aren't unlimited, I'd just hope texting is, or I can fallback to Google Voice even.
I've checked out StraightTalk, Simple Mobile, and T-Mobile prepaid. From what I hear, the first two aren't too keen on tethering, and have some invisible data limit that if hit, they can cancel your service (but perhaps I've heard wrong, or maybe this was in the past). There was another plan I checked out (Solavi or something) but their privacy policy on shared info didn't seem too good, and I hear they too don't like tethering and have an invisible data limit.
I'm somewhat interested in T-Mobile's $30 prepaid plan. Unlimited data is pretty nice (the 4G is also nice, but my area is only 2G only according to their map). Not entirely sure on T-Mo's stance on tethering. I don't really see myself using more than 100 voice minutes a month, but if I understand right, it's like $0.33 per minute after that, or I can buy minutes with a T-Mo prepaid card. I currently have an old full-sized T-Mo prepaid SIM card lying around. Hoping I can just make this micro, pop it in, and then sign-up for the $30/month prepaid thing on T-Mo's site without problem.
But simply put, I need a plan with unlimited data, calling/text (doesn't have to be unlimited, but I need them nonetheless) and no strict-stance on tethering. Being under $50/month would be awesome I'm also in the United States, and don't plan on doing anything international, in the near future anyway. Should I go with T-Mobile's $30/month prepaid plan, or is there another provider I should look at instead?
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Here in Canada, I'm paying $30/mo. for service which includes unlimited local, canada-wide text and "unlimited" data. They say unlimited, but my speed is severely capped at 5GB (to about 10 kb/s, unusable). Well I don't know too much about US Providers, with the $30 I'm paying it sounds similar to T-Mobile's plan, BUT something I didn't know when I got my service was how limited the coverage would be. Even in Toronto there are spots where data is dropped because of poor reception, and I guess this is why the service is so "cheap" relative to other providers in canada. So I guess what's I'm saying is t-mobile's $30 data might not be as good and reliable as other carriers (maybe). It would be nice to hear from someone who actually has tried this plan though.
I'm using a straight talk att sim that was cut down. I've heard they have a 2 gig limit but I have never hit it. Their service is $50.05 after tax. I don't think you will find your service for less than $50 but curious if you do. I was on t mobile but once new buildings started being put up at my work it was unusable. Att in my area has broad coverage just a clogged network. IMO having unlimited 2g tmobile seems like a waste. If you are on wifi and don't live on YouTube you should be fine.
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