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Im going to be coming over to the Epic from the hero. Just wondering if it is worth it or not yet. I still see there are issues and all, but I dont mind that. As long as samsung is diligently working on a fix. unlike HTC, I hope samsung is a tad better.
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unlike HTC, I hope samsung is a tad better.
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That's debatable - Samsung's history is not great in fixing things.
That said, as a new Epic owner myself, I do feel like some people are getting a little crazy about a few issues that for most people are going to be relatively minor or even unnoticed. The two issues that come up a lot are GPS and the 3G upload speed. Both of these *seem* to be relatively simple fixes; the GPS issue just seems to be relying on outdated data cache (solution: flush the cache), while the upload speed seems to have been broken with an earlier software update... meaning it should be easy enough for them to fix it again. *Should be* being the key phrase. If Samsung doesn't see the cost benefit from doing so, then they will just keep advertising and selling the phone as is.
In actual practice, I haven't yet run across a situation where these issues have really affected me, though it does annoy me that I can't really do video calling if I wanted to, and that if I shot a video and wanted to directly upload it to YouTube or something, I probably couldn't really do that either. But these are hypotheticals; these are not things I normally do every day. As for GPS, I've been using it for turn-by-turn directions and haven't had any problems, though I know what the problem actually is and that I might run into it at some point. But my dedicated GPS unit had this same issue and I dealt with it for the first year that I owned it (at which point it too received an update... that I paid $80 for).
I'm still in my return window but there isn't really a phone I'd want to return the Epic for. I need a keyboard and the only other phone that really appeals to me is the Droid 2, but I don't want to pay extra for Verizon's plans. So I'll probably just keep the Epic and hope they fix the issues; it's not like they're real killers the way I use the phone. Overall this is a great phone. Sucks up juice a little more than I'd like, but it's insanely fast, has a screen that might even be *too* good (the screen uses most of the battery, and I don't need perfect black levels on my phone), has the best keyboard available on a phone right now, and is generally just a pleasure to use as long as your usage pattern doesn't run into those couple issues it has.
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In actual practice, I haven't yet run across a situation where these issues have really affected me, though it does annoy me that I can't really do video calling if I wanted to, and that if I shot a video and wanted to directly upload it to YouTube or something, I probably couldn't really do that either. But these are hypotheticals; these are not things I normally do every day. As for GPS, I've been using it for turn-by-turn directions and haven't had any problems, though I know what the problem actually is and that I might run into it at some point. But my dedicated GPS unit had this same issue and I dealt with it for the first year that I owned it (at which point it too received an update... that I paid $80 for).
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Why does everyone say that they can't do video calling?
I constantly Fring camchat with my friend on her Evo on 3G. She says the video quality isn't perfect on her end, but its never prevented me from video calling! Even on low bars (1-2 bars) i still can comfortably have a conversation over the webchat.
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Just wondering if it is worth it or not yet.
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Yes.
Not if u plan on using 4g indoors.
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I think this phone is great, the gps is good enough but it could be better, I never use the gps inside my house, so I don't really care the indoor, now once I step outside it only takes couple second to lock me.
About the 3g, well I have the same issue but most of the time I'm in a wifi (House, work) so I don't really care about it, but I would be nice if they have some fix to it...I don't get 4g neither in house and work, so don't care about it either.
The I came from the TP2 and just android itself made me jump to this phone, I really hate the keyboard compare to the tp2, so far I haven't use video calling from phone to PC which is what matters to me (please skype hurry up).
The screen on this phone is just great!!! Perfect for movies (not from the Hub, too expensive) I got the movie from my bro hd2 and they look great, now I need to get avatar from my friend I see myself using the phone for movies so much but whenever I want to its totaly worth it.
For games, well its fast! The response to me its awesome, I don't usually play on my phone but I just download a game Caligo Chaser and its a very addictive game (rpg), but the graphics on the game looks very good on the Epic.
I would say keep the Epic, its a good phone, i will be keep her for a good 1 year and that's when my upgrade is due and I'll get a new one, just like I did with my tp2. The problems with the epic are so minimal compare to other phones, every phone that have release will always have problems, and that's how it always will be. I hope sammy won't take too long to fix it tho.
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You won't notice the gaming difference until you load up toonwarz or another graphically intense game. I believe most 2D games will run the same on most phones with a relatively new processor... though it goes without saying that everything looks great on the SAMOLED screen
Thanks guys. I dont plan on doing any uploading or 4g tethering inside my home. just using the internet at work etc.
Also kinda sucks on the battery life. What are people getting roughly with battery life?
Im also coming from the hero to the epic becuase of the physical keyboard. I cannot stand the lag on hero's keyboard. Is there any lag etc with the physical keyboard?
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Thanks guys. I dont plan on doing any uploading or 4g tethering inside my home. just using the internet at work etc.
Also kinda sucks on the battery life. What are people getting roughly with battery life?
Im also coming from the hero to the epic becuase of the physical keyboard. I cannot stand the lag on hero's keyboard. Is there any lag etc with the physical keyboard?
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I came from the Hero as well. Trust me, you'll be satisfied. I was running Darchstar's Cyanogen and whatever the nfiniteFX ROM was on my Hero and I THOUGHT I didn't notice any keyboard lag, but coming to the Epic, I realize I was completely wrong. There is no lag anywhere on this phone as far as I am concerned.
Just what I wanted to hear. haha One thing I did notice is that the hero lags up in general after a while IMO. Does the epic seem to do that so far?
I to came from a Hero, loved that little phone, the Epics screen is just. Insane to say the least. The camera quality to top notch, better than the Evos, I have done personal tests and have seen this. The battery life could be better but with updates those will help, its still a very new phone!
Well it's pretty much the best phone on the market right now. That said, there are issues. Make sure before you take your phone home that the capacitive buttons work. They either do or don't in most cases anyway.
I had 2 bad ones and an evo before switching to this on. Some people including myself have noticed image retention but i think thats a rare issue with the epic. Also the GPS is not good until the froyo update (hopefully). All that aside this is the best phone i have owned. Google Navigation works pretty well though and endomondo tracks very well as well.
I hope this helps.... Like I said i also had the Evo and once you see the Epic screen you wont like anything else. My new one is pretty solid and I 'm happy with it. I just want the flipping update already.
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Also kinda sucks on the battery life. What are people getting roughly with battery life?
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I'm getting about 14 hours with regular use. I could probably stretch that if I needed to. If I use it really heavily, including navigation, I might only get 8-10 hours.
In regular use that's long enough for me to go through a normal day, come home and just start charging it for the night once it gets really low.
But this is the first phone I've owned that I've actually bought a car charger for, just in case. If I see it getting low during the day, I will charge it on my way home from work.
This is not great, but my wife's iPhone is actually worse. She can't make it through a full day no matter what she does. Her phone is charging right now and it's 7:30PM; that's pretty normal for her. With me, it's not a regular thing to do that, it's only if I've been playing with it all day.
Also, like all phones the battery takes a few cycles to show an accurate charge. So when you first get the phone, it seems REALLY bad. I got like 5 hours on my first charge. But over time the gauge gets more accurate and you figure out little tricks to maximizing the battery (like dark wallpaper; bright pixels use a lot more power on an amoled screen), and it improves a lot.
Been waiting for this phone since it was announced for my upgrade. T-Mobile UK shops should be getting it in either next week or week after. But having read through as much of this forum as i can stomach it seems there are so many unhappy people. Proximity sensor issues, lagging issues, battery issues, navigation issues etc....
So whats the verdict of you people that have one then? Are you glad youve got it? Are the issues really that widespread or is it isolated from the initial batch? I really dont want to dive in and get the phone all excitedly and then find these problems are major ones.
One thing you have to bear in mind with forums are that people tend to voice their opinion when they are unhappy. They are less likely to start threads stating how great the experience is going or about things they like!
Personally I can't find any real faults with the phone. There are little nags, such as the power button being hard to press but nothing that takes away from the overall experience. The battery life is poor over the first couple of days but it's looking like this resolves itself after the li-ion is conditioned.
Working for a major UK phone network, I get my hands on every handset going and nothing compares to the jaw dropping impact the 4.3" screen has! (Ok HD7 maybe, but WinPho7 is not quite ready yet, but will be great!) If you want the latest hardware and spend most of your time browsing or viewing media, the Desire HD is for you!
Regards.
I've had a hd2 for the last year so I'm used to the screen size the dhd is really nice I really like it I personally think to many people have commented to early with battery life mine seems fine and lasts the day with heavy use
My missus will tell you I don't put the thing down
I tried an iPhone 4 for a week and sent it back I preferred my hd2 although the iPhone was very smooth
The dhd is as smooth as the iPhone and the screen makes media and browsing so good, texting is also very good and I personally find the sound awesome through headphones well happy with mine as you might be able to tell
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Hi all,
Im a new member of the forum (duh!) and I was brought here after searching a couple of things in google and it seems to hit this place more often than any other site, I've been using the Galaxy S2 for the last 21 days and here are my thoughts:
The design of the over all hardware is just premium, phone feels extremely great on the hand and the weight is just amazing! It does not feel plasticy at all as what some review sites say, for what its worth the feel is extremely premium. Tactile response on the buttons and home key is also great!
The screen is great but I see some flaws/technology limitation here and there or maybe my display is just faulty? Why is the left side slightly a bit darker than the right side of the display, its pretty noticeable even upto 50% brightness.
Samsung has advertized this as a 0.1ms response time screen but I do see some ghosting in some apps and also when dropping the notification tray, a friend of mine who has the original Galaxy S says theres no ghosting on the SuperAMOLED
Black levels are INSANELY MINDBLOWINGLY AMAZING!! I cant stress this enough! Being a fan of high end plasma displays, the SAMOLED+ just blows everything out of the water! I have to admit that if your using the phone just before bed time ( when all the lights are off ) you can definitely tell that the screen is powered on when displaying a black image but its extremely great! The lightning is so faint and perfectly uniform!
Performance ( speed ) is really great, coming from a lower end andriod phone the Galaxy S2's performance is just through the roof! Aside from the innate micro-jitters from andriod everything else is on steriods!
I really like how the Samsung UI is made especially the swipe to SMS/Call, its pretty simple yet very effective! Messaging and contacts are pretty straight forward!
GPS accuracy is spot on, I can easily get 10M locked accuracy on ~9 sats and locking speed is like less than 10 seconds!
Battery life is a bit lacking for my usage but hey I cant expect a device with a dualcore and 4.3" screen to last me 24hrs with all the things Im doing, I also have 3G data enabled with some facebook and twitter widgets and some personal email stuff going around, I also use the music player alot, depending on the usage I get about 16-19hrs.
Wifi strength is just average or maybe its just my weak router at home but on the same spot my laptop can get a very solid signal where the S2 loses it from time to time.
Speaker output is very acceptable, nothing really to write about.
Call quality is "just average" as everyone I've called says that my voice is either pretty low or theres a very slight echo.
Over all the phone is good ( not great ) it kinda meets the expectation, Im a little disappointed on the display since I really believed on all the marketing things they have made for both SuperAMOLED and SuperAMOLED+ , I payed about $680 for this phone and I still have a few days left to either return this and get an exchange or a full refund.
Sorry for the long wall of text and my poor english (not my first language)
Share your thoughts on the device and your opinion on what Ive posted, Thanks!!
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My experience last 5 days
Definetly improvements over original galaxy s are noticeable, specialy GPS.
All hardware is mindblowing but sound. Yamaha DAC is a mess, Wolfson kick ass Yamaha DAC.
caviera said:
Definetly improvements over original galaxy s are noticeable, specialy GPS.
All hardware is mindblowing but sound. Yamaha DAC is a mess, Wolfson kick ass Yamaha DAC.
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I've never owned the original Galaxy S but I've read some posts about that, with a decent heaphones the difference is day and night, not too much of an issue for me though but I can understand the gravity of this.
Flightless said:
Hi all,
Battery life is a bit lacking for my usage but hey I cant expect a device with a dualcore and 4.3" screen to last me 24hrs with all the things Im doing, I also have 3G data enabled with some facebook and twitter widgets and some personal email stuff going around, I also use the music player alot, depending on the usage I get about 16-19hrs.
Read the battery Faq posts and in particular .
better battery stats .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Applications safe to remove .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069924
Remove Samsung Apps script .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1108479
Wifi strength is just average or maybe its just my weak router at home but on the same spot my laptop can get a very solid signal where the S2 loses it from time to time.
Excellent signal on latest KH3 firmware .
jje
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Try one the "praised" Custom-Roms =) I got much more satified since using them, especially battery life improved (still not state-of-the-art, but acceptable).
But I'm also searching for a solution for the poor call-quality. Every second call i have I'm told that people can understand me hardly. Hardware-design failure?
Flightless said:
Hi all,
Battery life is a bit lacking for my usage but hey I cant expect a device with a dualcore and 4.3" screen to last me 24hrs with all the things Im doing, I also have 3G data enabled with some facebook and twitter widgets and some personal email stuff going around, I also use the music player alot, depending on the usage I get about 16-19hrs.
check out
http://www.batteryupgrade.com/shopB...hType=searchByshopGroup#/shopGroupId/11033729
bought the biggest one, you will need an extra back cover but it comes with
the battery 28 euros for a 2750 mAh battery which at least for me by now
works perfect is a good price i believe, the batteries seem very stable and they also have the message below stated on the site
This Samsung Galaxy S2 battery (2600 mAh, Black) contains advanced technical components and has been tested according to strict CE safety standards. The Samsung Galaxy S2 battery contains a chip that prevents overcharging and short circuiting. Next to this the Samsung Galaxy S2 battery is made from high quality cells that do not suffer from a so-called 'memory effect'.
i have been on this battery now with wifi or 3g connect at all times for 30 hours
and i have 40 % power left. fairly heavy use every morning, heavy use in the evening work 9am to 6 pm mostly screen off but checking FB Twitter newspaers etc pretty frequently.
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I wont be messing with the ROM yet since im still in the grace period for a return, for the battery I dont think ill spend anything more to make the phone thicker or anything I also understand that the 16hrs is acceptable for the usage that I do.
caviera said:
Definetly improvements over original galaxy s are noticeable, specialy GPS.
All hardware is mindblowing but sound. Yamaha DAC is a mess, Wolfson kick ass Yamaha DAC.
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Firstly, nice review Flightless.
Secondly, Caviera, could you please show any reference to your statement. I'm curious to know. AFAIK not so many review site truly measure audio output/quality, except GSMArena but they haven't yet review SGS2. Although in their most recent reviews, for example for the SGS+ they put SGS2 statistics in the same page for us to compare, as you can see below:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_plus-review-623p5.php
I am not very techie, but I can say the numbers do not differ much there. Or does it?
Mine totally disaster with the Galaxy S2 for the last 21 days.
Replaced 4 units within one month due to pink spot (wasn't know that's issue), easily overheating, power button hardware failure, very low mic volume during calls, and camera mechanism noise problems.
Also waited for another one month to get it repaired/exchanged to my 5th unit. Long run disaster, bad experience to own SGS2 in the first place.
Now start to use SGS2, found it really a nice on hand, useful and powerful smartphone.
My experience is that this phone is amazing... however the GPS is not so amazing. Nothing past 10m... at least navigation works with all the tweaks I've applied.
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My experience is that this phone is amazing... however the GPS is not so amazing. Nothing past 10m... at least navigation works with all the tweaks I've applied.
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Have you tried an app for a faster fix, like fasterfix?
holyguyz said:
Mine totally disaster with the Galaxy S2 for the last 21 days.
Replaced 4 units within one month due to pink spot (wasn't know that's issue), easily overheating, power button hardware failure, very low mic volume during calls, and camera mechanism noise problems.
Also waited for another one month to get it repaired/exchanged to my 5th unit. Long run disaster, bad experience to own SGS2 in the first place.
Now start to use SGS2, found it really a nice on hand, useful and powerful smartphone.
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WTF, 1 month to get a new unit ?
thought that would go faster as this is a manufacturers mistake i would assume?
good thing you didnt flash any custom roms or rooted the phone before sending it back then.. unless you did and already have a jig
from first glance the unit worked flawless for me, bought it in the NL, no issues at all except for the battery drain in the original firmware and the 2.3.3 OS
I flashed after a week over to Litening v5 with ninpheta 2.0.5 kernel
mostly U/c to 1000 or 800 mhz with a little bit of under voltage aswell.
but sometimes for show off or heavy games i boost it to 1400 or 1600 MHZ also .
with a little U/V and phone is fast and stable as a Rolls Royce Phantom <)
Phone gets a bit heated when it is under heavy use or when charging,
but at least my personal belief is that the reason for this happening
is simply because there is not a metall etc bezel around this phone
like it would for example be on an iphone, surely all that metal must spread out the heat to even it out??
Phone was also heating up under stock rom with heavy use so or charging so
i believe that it is not really heating up to much
but because of the bezel thing mentioned above it feels a lot hotter.
what do you guys think?
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WTF, 1 month to get a new unit ?
thought that would go faster as this is a manufacturers mistake i would assume?
good thing you didnt flash any custom roms or rooted the phone before sending it back then.. unless you did and already have a jig
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Yes, over one month at retailer shop where i bought my SGS2 in UK. I have no ideal why they need more than a month to diagnose the phone (checked online with diagnose status). Btw, problem was found on original unrooted preloaded fw and did root the phone to solve the problem, unfortunately it can't be solved. And it's not jigged. That time was suspect hardware problems then just send it for service without thinking too much. It's still under warranty anyway. As a result they replaced another new unit for me.
Cross-fingers. Hope no more problems on my current SGS2.
I also had to wait for 30days on my 3rd replacement but I was able to use the phone till then, now processing another replacement since it has yet another defect.. waiting time is another 30days for approval.
As for wifi, even with barely any signal, i've always hit the max speed of my bandwidth during the speed test
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I also had to wait for 30days on my 3rd replacement but I was able to use the phone till then, now processing another replacement since it has yet another defect.. waiting time is another 30days for approval.
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That's really bad. I know. I know.
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As for wifi, even with barely any signal, i've always hit the max speed of my bandwidth during the speed test
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I also realize that my SGS2 WiFi signal always at very low bar (one bar), where placed beside my laptop (full bar). And distance to WiFi router only about 5 meter away. Is it something wrong with the SGS2 WiFi module or just another software problem again. Don't tell it's hardware problem again.
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That's really bad. I know. I know.
I also realize that my SGS2 WiFi signal always at very low bar (one bar), where placed beside my laptop (full bar). And distance to WiFi router only about 5 meter away. Is it something wrong with the SGS2 WiFi module or just another software problem again. Don't tell it's hardware problem again.
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Sounds like something is wrong with the actual transmitter, wireless card or what to call it, my wifi on a real ****ty sweex router has good strength and I can even be in the basement of our complex and still have decent strength, I live on the third floor so the basement is pretty far away, in the house everywhere I have full strength,.
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holyguyz said:
Mine totally disaster with the Galaxy S2 for the last 21 days.
Replaced 4 units within one month due to pink spot (wasn't know that's issue), easily overheating, power button hardware failure, very low mic volume during calls, and camera mechanism noise problems.
Also waited for another one month to get it repaired/exchanged to my 5th unit. Long run disaster, bad experience to own SGS2 in the first place.
Now start to use SGS2, found it really a nice on hand, useful and powerful smartphone.
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I think you had the same problem that my brother had with his HTC sensation! He went through 4 phones overheating, and running supper slow, I believe that you got your hands on a batch of bad phones
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Sounds like something is wrong with the actual transmitter, wireless card or what to call it, my wifi on a real ****ty sweex router has good strength and I can even be in the basement of our complex and still have decent strength, I live on the third floor so the basement is pretty far away, in the house everywhere I have full strength,.
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then it could be something to do with WiFi frequency channel. i should tweak around and see how is it.
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I think you had the same problem that my brother had with his HTC sensation! He went through 4 phones overheating, and running supper slow, I believe that you got your hands on a batch of bad phones
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No more problem on my 5th unit. Hope for the best!
My jump into the world of smartphones has been small. A couple of years I purchased Motorola Spice. It was ok, froze every once in a while, and was super slow, like the original computers. Thus I got excited when I made a purchase of Nexus 4. It was all great until a couple of weeks ago when I received it.
Everything is fine except for a couple of things. The static buzzing noise when talking on the phone, kind of like someone shaking a cup half filled with sand, and the fact that the phone heats up after 5 minutes of web surfing, and is very hot after 10 minutes of use.
So my question is whether this is normal on higher end smart phones such as HTC One S/X, S3, S2, etc?
I have asked for a replacement due to static while making calls, and am thinking about selling Nexus 4, but if other phones have similar issues, then there is no point. I plan on keeping my phone for at least 2 years.
The Sprint Sgs3 heated up a lot, and the call quality was terrible. And the radios were the worst ever. I don't know about the other phones though. Would be curious to hear about them.
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My One S would heat up as well.
It is definitely better than one X or iPhone 5. Used it before and hate it so much lol
Honestly though, in my experience, Nexus 4 has been pretty much the best phone I've ever used. It is as smooth as iPhone while maintaining all the customization of android.
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Well I guess sadly it's good to know that this is the best device at the moment. Even though it falls way below my expectations. The phone gets hot after a 10 minute conversation, meanwhile with my other phone it took at least half hour before I would feel anything.
When surfing the web, with my other phone, I could go almost an hour before things would get hot, and with this phone it only takes 10 minutes before it's hot enough to not want to have it in my hand.
Reception wise its the worse thing I have owned, I think ever. Even with Motorola Spice the reception has been pretty clear, not to mention my old (12 years ago) Nokia, Samsung and Motorola clamshell phones.
Now thinking about getting a Blackberry 10, but not sure if Blackberry software issues will be a problem.
Surfing xda the last 30 min, nothing gets hot on my phone. Talking for hours isn't a problem too. No issues so far, last three phones were Motorola Milestone 2 (good, sometimes I still miss the keyboard) iphone4s (seriously I don't get the apple crowd, was really laggy at times, got hot and was a b*tch to hold for longer than 5min and I gave it a honest go, even with jail breaking it was an utter annoyance) and the one x which I found quite nice, but it felt a lot bigger than the nexus and was overheating a lot). To conclude: in my opinion nexus 4 is the best phone right now on the market.
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nexus 4 is best than other brand phones...
only time it heats up is when gaming.... surfing and other things... doesnt even make it warm... its cool
No buzz like I know a lot of people seem to have. I definitely have the reception issue and I've seen a number of other people post about it too, it isn't the worst reception I've ever had but it is noticeably worse than my previous few phones. As for heat, stock I noticed it to get quite warm under normal use but it has a glass back so that is to be expected however with franco's kernel the phone seems to stay much cooler (not advocating rooting/modding/etc to get a properly functioning phone just relaying my experience.)
That being said I do think it is the best android phone out right now and the best android device I've used to date. I would certainly trade my n4 for an iphone 5, I would be willing to give a nokia 920 a trial run and for me BB10 is DOA so I wouldn't give it a second look. If you don't like the N4 don't stick with it, there are alternatives and maybe something else out there might be a better fit.
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No buzz like I know a lot of people seem to have. I definitely have the reception issue and I've seen a number of other people post about it too, it isn't the worst reception I've ever had but it is noticeably worse than my previous few phones. As for heat, stock I noticed it to get quite warm under normal use but it has a glass back so that is to be expected however with franco's kernel the phone seems to stay much cooler (not advocating rooting/modding/etc to get a properly functioning phone just relaying my experience.)
That being said I do think it is the best android phone out right now and the best android device I've used to date. I would certainly trade my n4 for an iphone 5, I would be willing to give a nokia 920 a trial run and for me BB10 is DOA so I wouldn't give it a second look. If you don't like the N4 don't stick with it, there are alternatives and maybe something else out there might be a better fit.
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Coming from multiple HTC smartphones recently I can the reception not being as great, HTC makes excellent radios they are the best in my experience. Samsung is pretty good with GSM, not so much with CDMA. But the LG Nexus 4 actually has much better reception than my last phone the gsm galaxy nexus.
I actually think the reception is pretty good, is it the best radio ever, no. But it's also a new phone on a new chipset which by it's nature of being so new doesn't have the most optimized radio software either. I'm actually fairly impressed with the speed of data connections on a extremely low signal.
The heat is overemphasized and I'd ask some users that claim the phone gets hot enough to be uncomfortable to hold what kernel they are running. Playing with the thermal throttling setting seems popular among kernel developers and it's possible a poorly configured thermal throttling.
The N4 isn't perfect but for me it's damn close but I don't claim that one phone is right for everyone.
There is no similar phone
Nexus 5 > Nexus 4 > all
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Coming from multiple HTC smartphones recently I can the reception not being as great, HTC makes excellent radios they are the best in my experience. Samsung is pretty good with GSM, not so much with CDMA. But the LG Nexus 4 actually has much better reception than my last phone the gsm galaxy nexus.
I actually think the reception is pretty good, is it the best radio ever, no. But it's also a new phone on a new chipset which by it's nature of being so new doesn't have the most optimized radio software either. I'm actually fairly impressed with the speed of data connections on a extremely low signal.
The heat is overemphasized and I'd ask some users that claim the phone gets hot enough to be uncomfortable to hold what kernel they are running. Playing with the thermal throttling setting seems popular among kernel developers and it's possible a poorly configured thermal throttling.
The N4 isn't perfect but for me it's damn close but I don't claim that one phone is right for everyone.
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I have not done any modifications to my phone. Heat-up happened during a regular phone call. But yes, when I do surf the net or play games, it does get really hot really fast.
As for reception, I am actually talking about voice clarity. Not signal strength. Signal strength has been very good.
My Note 3 is dying and I'm looking around for my next daily driver. I've got kids so money and time mean I've got to get the best stock phone I can without rooting, and get it right first time.
I'm really interested in the 6P, but watching YouTube vids it seems to be two-faced: it's perfect or a mess; so which is it?
1) Does bluetooth work reliably or still have regular disconnects 6+ months after launch? (My Note 3 was rock-steady.)
2) Does Gmail arrive promptly, or after 20minutes-several hours? (Important for me.)
3) Is the headphone jack as dodgy as it looks in the vids? If it's not registering connection brand new, what's it going to be like after a year, or eighteen months? (I can't afford less than a 2 year cycle for phones.)
4) Is the phone 'buttery-smooth' or regularly prone to pauses and lags during lighter use? (Depending on the reviewer, it varied.)
5) Are my games going to throttle/stutter - rendering the money spent on a 'gaming' phone wasted?
6) Is there anything else I should know about?
Any help and accurate information greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
One confused Fizzig.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3335923
The latest update for me has been amazing. Best phone I've ever owned (I came from a Moto X Pure and a GS6 before that).
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t2jbird said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3335923
The latest update for me has been amazing. Best phone I've ever owned (I came from a Moto X Pure and a GS6 before that).
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Cheers - how long have you had the update? Any problems that still seem unresolved?
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Cheers - how long have you had the update? Any problems that still seem unresolved?
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I used it about two weeks. I never had a problem while I was on stock. I'm somewhat of a flashaholic.. So I'm on a custom ROM now that has some minor bugs.
If you're going to stay on stock though, phone is buttery smooth throughout.
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I use bluetooth daily(ear buds, radio at work, and AVR at home) and have not had any problems, but that's for streaming music, haven't tried for calls yet.
Also no problem with the headphone jack.
Fizzig said:
My Note 3 is dying and I'm looking around for my next daily driver. I've got kids so money and time mean I've got to get the best stock phone I can without rooting, and get it right first time.
I'm really interested in the 6P, but watching YouTube vids it seems to be two-faced: it's perfect or a mess; so which is it?
1) Does bluetooth work reliably or still have regular disconnects 6+ months after launch? (My Note 3 was rock-steady.)
2) Does Gmail arrive promptly, or after 20minutes-several hours? (Important for me.)
3) Is the headphone jack as dodgy as it looks in the vids? If it's not registering connection brand new, what's it going to be like after a year, or eighteen months? (I can't afford less than a 2 year cycle for phones.)
4) Is the phone 'buttery-smooth' or regularly prone to pauses and lags during lighter use? (Depending on the reviewer, it varied.)
5) Are my games going to throttle/stutter - rendering the money spent on a 'gaming' phone wasted?
6) Is there anything else I should know about?
Any help and accurate information greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
One confused Fizzig.
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Of the 6 problems you are asking about I have NO ISSUES with any of those things.
My current problems are:
Random WiFi drops, (no biggie) I am sure this will go away.
Dropping LTE/data issue, better after flashing radio.
All in all I love the phone. Unless you are considering Apple, this is the best Android phone of its size.
Fizzig said:
My Note 3 is dying and I'm looking around for my next daily driver. I've got kids so money and time mean I've got to get the best stock phone I can without rooting, and get it right first time.
I'm really interested in the 6P, but watching YouTube vids it seems to be two-faced: it's perfect or a mess; so which is it?
1) Does bluetooth work reliably or still have regular disconnects 6+ months after launch? (My Note 3 was rock-steady.)
2) Does Gmail arrive promptly, or after 20minutes-several hours? (Important for me.)
3) Is the headphone jack as dodgy as it looks in the vids? If it's not registering connection brand new, what's it going to be like after a year, or eighteen months? (I can't afford less than a 2 year cycle for phones.)
4) Is the phone 'buttery-smooth' or regularly prone to pauses and lags during lighter use? (Depending on the reviewer, it varied.)
5) Are my games going to throttle/stutter - rendering the money spent on a 'gaming' phone wasted?
6) Is there anything else I should know about?
Any help and accurate information greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
One confused Fizzig.
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Hello, gonna try to answer some of your questions from personal expirience
1. Not using it daily, but when i do(for gamepad) or streaming music in car it works without any stutters or problems for me.
2. Again, i dont depend on email notifications arriving same second, so i never really looked into it, but it doesnt seem late for me.
3. Its nor better nor worse than any other jack, it just works and havent had any problems with it.
4. Thats where the phone shines the brightest, by far smoothest and fastest phone i have ever used, probably due to lightweight pure android.
5. I had encountered a little lag only in 1 game. Asphalt 8, i think its one the most power demanding games out there, and it wasnt like a big lag, sometimes when playing for extended period of time, i noticed the game would become not as smooth for like 10seconds, like a little bit less fps, and after that good again. Probably due to cpu thermal throtling, but as i said, was barely noticable and perfectly playable.
6. I dunno, for me its a very good phone, probably best so far, sometimes i wish it had a better battery life, but its still more than okey, will get you through the day even after heavy usage, just 3450mah sounds so much that my expectations were probably too high.
Hope i helped you
I returned my 6P after owning it for 3 months and having 3 replacements (all of which had many, many issues).
The speaker audio is good, bluetooth is the most unreliable of any Android phone I have ever used. The battery life is not as good as people say and is so intermittent. The speed of the phone is good, not excellent however. It starts of super fast when you turn the phone on, but give it 12 hours or so and it becomes stuttery and a mess sometimes. Games are unplayable about 30 mins of gameplay due to the throttling.
The headphone jack is ABSOLUTELY AWFUL. One of my phones had one that properly secured the headphones in places, the others were so loose, a slight jolt would disconnect the audio, even putting it into my pocket would disconnect the audio. Plus on all of my phones, there was a static sound at below 50% volume, which is so apparent. If you like your audio, avoid this phone like the plague, trust me. I have never had more issues with a phone's headphone jack than with the 6P.
That being said, I do not hate the phone, so don't think I am being biased, because I'm not. I gave this phone so many chances and it always fell short of what I would expect to be acceptable. Google's excuse for my issues was that I was 'unlucky', 4 phones in a row. Sure.
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I returned my 6P after owning it for 3 months and having 3 replacements (all of which had many, many issues).
The speaker audio is good, bluetooth is the most unreliable of any Android phone I have ever used. The battery life is not as good as people say and is so intermittent. The speed of the phone is good, not excellent however. It starts of super fast when you turn the phone on, but give it 12 hours or so and it becomes stuttery and a mess sometimes. Games are unplayable about 30 mins of gameplay due to the throttling.
The headphone jack is ABSOLUTELY AWFUL. One of my phones had one that properly secured the headphones in places, the others were so loose, a slight jolt would disconnect the audio, even putting it into my pocket would disconnect the audio. Plus on all of my phones, there was a static sound at below 50% volume, which is so apparent. If you like your audio, avoid this phone like the plague, trust me. I have never had more issues with a phone's headphone jack than with the 6P.
That being said, I do not hate the phone, so don't think I am being biased, because I'm not. I gave this phone so many chances and it always fell short of what I would expect to be acceptable. Google's excuse for my issues was that I was 'unlucky', 4 phones in a row. Sure.
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And that remains my issue with the 6P. People say they have no, or minimal problems, and other's reports are like the above. Of the phones that are out at the moment, the 6P suits my needs the most. I'm just not sure that I'm willing to play the lottery to find a reliable unit. I'll have to hope my Note 3 will limp through the summer and autumn so I can see what late 2016 brings in terms of new releases. :fingers-crossed:
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And that remains my issue with the 6P. People say they have no, or minimal problems, and other's reports are like the above. Of the phones that are out at the moment, the 6P suits my needs the most. I'm just not sure that I'm willing to play the lottery to find a reliable unit. I'll have to hope my Note 3 will limp through the summer and autumn so I can see what late 2016 brings in terms of new releases. :fingers-crossed:
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Probably the best way to go. The hassle of RMAing over and over is not worth it. I really wanted to like the phone..
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And that remains my issue with the 6P. People say they have no, or minimal problems, and other's reports are like the above. Of the phones that are out at the moment, the 6P suits my needs the most. I'm just not sure that I'm willing to play the lottery to find a reliable unit. I'll have to hope my Note 3 will limp through the summer and autumn so I can see what late 2016 brings in terms of new releases. :fingers-crossed:
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That's probably your best bet to be honest. The 6P is pretty much old news at this point in the mobile world and the new Nexus and other phones will be right around the corner and will be here sooner than you think.
And I'm not saying to always wait for something newer because you can do that forever. But I also went through three 6P's before I gave up. It just seems too risky to get involved in the rma game.
With that being said, the 6P is overall a good phone if you can get a good one. Good luck in your journey.