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Backup Desire, every bit of it?

Excuse me if this has been covered before, but is there a way to backup the device in a way, that if i root it, and then flash some ROM to it, and i mess up or just want to go back to my previous state?
I read something about nandroid? But in order for me to do that, i need root. Correct? so, what if i want to "unroot" my device? and is nandroid suitable for the Desire?

What does nandroid actually do? Does it back up everything?

nandroid makes images of all of the disk, so it's a full backup, but it's having issues restoring those backups to the Desire at the moment. And yes, you'll need to at least get to the recovery menu to run nandroid for now.
The only other route of which I know is just backing up apps and data, and you can use Titanium Backup for that (or MyBackup, I think). Without root, when you restore the apps, you won't be able to tell the Market you have these things installed, though. Doing that still requires you to fully reflash and do some setup, though. I don't think there's a cut-and-dry backup and full restore method at the moment. If there is, I'd certainly be interested...

I am also in the hunt for a good backup application. Dont mind paying as long as work as it should. But i dont think there is any backup application that can backup applications (most of them maybe just supported some limited apps).

kuailan said:
I am also in the hunt for a good backup application. Dont mind paying as long as work as it should. But i dont think there is any backup application that can backup applications (most of them maybe just supported some limited apps).
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Titanium Backup will back up everything that's on your phone except for apps installed by the system (and those it'll try and backup if you're rooted). It's worked flawlessly for me.

The Professor said:
Titanium Backup will back up everything that's on your phone except for apps installed by the system (and those it'll try and backup if you're rooted). It's worked flawlessly for me.
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I am trying Titanium now at the moment....just wondering I have seen a lot of application backup options/lists?? but where is the options to backup SMS, contacts, etc?? I find the UI is a little complex.

So is the best way of doing it.. Backup.. Copy folder to pc...
Then when i wanna restore.. Install titanium. copy license and folder back?

kuailan said:
I am trying Titanium now at the moment....just wondering I have seen a lot of application backup options/lists?? but where is the options to backup SMS, contacts, etc?? I find the UI is a little complex.
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Titanium backup only does apps.
Personally I use MyBackup, it backs up settings, sms, calender, home screens, settings e.t.c. as well as apps and keeps market links intact.
Well worth the money.

Ive got both now lol! have to wait till i install a new rom.. ill try mybackup first then

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Titanium backup only does apps.
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Oh, RLY?
Official Titanium Backup site says otherwise.
http://www.matrixrewriter.com/android/
Features of the Free version:
No time limit
Very fast app listing (~1 second for 300 apps)
Sort apps by name / last backup / backup frequency
Filter apps by name / type / status / Apps Organizer labels (also affects Batch operations)
Backup/restore regular apps + their settings
Backup/restore protected apps + their settings
Backup/restore system settings (incl. Wi-Fi AP list)
Restores the Market links when restoring apps
Zero-click background batch backup
Interactive batch restore
Many batch scenarios (eg: if more than N days since last backup, etc)
Zero-click app un-installer
Zero-click system app un-installer
Desktop widgets
Additional features of the Donate version:
Branding to your name
Multiple backups per app (history length can be chosen)
Zero-click background batch restore
Batch verification of all backups
Ultra fast HyperShell (much faster for almost everything)
Market Doctor can remake any broken Market links (only for apps that were backed up with the link in place)
App freezer can disable an app (and make it invisible) without un-installing it
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I just moved from one ROM to another smoothly with Titanium. I recommend it.

How to Backup you Desire before rooting it ?
Titanium requires Rooted phone ......
other Appli ?

You can try Sprite Backup but no application will work that well without root, sorry.

Is anybody test Sprite Backup?
I think MyBackup Pro and Titanium are similar when you have the system app active.

Hi
barring rooting the device and doing a nand backup/restore, I have used Sprite Backup in the past on my diamond (XDAndroid) successfully and it u could also use the application backup/restore with Astro (from the marketplace) and for txt msgs use sms backup -
http://github.com/jberkel/android-sms/tree/restore_backups - Backup/restore to gmail account

Titanium

I have downloaded titanium and understand how to back up apps but I am lost on how to pull them back and restore them once I have done and wipe and flashed a rom. Anyone have some advice on how to do this? I have searched the web and cant seem to find a place that gives a good explanation

When you backup an app or app+data with Titanium Backup it is saved to your SD Card. When you wipe and flash a new rom, if the rom does not have Titanium Backup (most don't have it cooked in) then you need to download it from the market. It will see the backups you have and from the main app screen you will click on Backup/Restore. Then click on the app that you wish to restore and it will bring a pop-up that gives you buttons with actions to choose from. Click Restore and it will ask if you want to restore the App only or app+data. If you choose App+Data, it should restore to the state that it was in when you made the backup, meaning that it should retain your settings.

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When you backup an app or app+data with Titanium Backup it is saved to your SD Card. When you wipe and flash a new rom, if the rom does not have Titanium Backup (most don't have it cooked in) then you need to download it from the market. It will see the backups you have and from the main app screen you will click on Backup/Restore. Then click on the app that you wish to restore and it will bring a pop-up that gives you buttons with actions to choose from. Click Restore and it will ask if you want to restore the App only or app+data. If you choose App+Data, it should restore to the state that it was in when you made the backup, meaning that it should retain your settings.
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So outside of doing a batch backup every now and then to keep everything up today I dont have to do anything else but just reload titanium on the new rom

Not that I know of.

[Q] App Backup- Not a stupid question

I was wondering how to backup an app WITHOUT backing up the data along with it. I have been having permission problems with my restores after flashing new roms. I believe it has something to do with the user data that comes with the apps.
Basically, how do I backup apps alone, without any of my personal data coming along with it?
Is there such a function on Titanium Backup? I have been using this.

huynh727 said:
I was wondering how to backup an app WITHOUT backing up the data along with it. I have been having permission problems with my restores after flashing new roms. I believe it has something to do with the user data that comes with the apps.
Basically, how do I backup apps alone, without any of my personal data coming along with it?
Is there such a function on Titanium Backup? I have been using this.
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With Titanium Backup you can restore Apps one by one. or as a batch option. You do not have to back up personal data with the app data.
This is what i do when i switch ROMs. I just skip the sign in, then log in via the accounts and sync option, then use the market to download T/Backup and batch restore and allow Google to re-sync my phone and use tit/bac for my apps.

This is what i do when i switch ROMs. I just skip the sign in, then log in via the accounts and sync option, then use the market to download T/Backup and batch restore and allow Google to re-sync my phone and use tit/bac for my apps.
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Right, that is what I meant. When you just backup apps alone, the app data comes along with it. For example, when I restore angry birds alone, I still have all of my accolades. I was wondering how I could restore apps similar to freshly installing it onto my phone.

huynh727 said:
Right, that is what I meant. When you just backup apps alone, the app data comes along with it. For example, when I restore angry birds alone, I still have all of my accolades.
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Yes. If you do a batch restore you can have it do "restore apps with data" and it will act like you never left the game.

I forgot to mention a part, please look at my above post again. Thanks

huynh727 said:
I forgot to mention a part, please look at my above post again. Thanks
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Yes you can also restore apps w/o user data.
you can also unlink apps from the market. So like with the recent flash update you can unlink the app from the market so you do not get market updates. so i can keep 10.1 and not worry about 10.2.

So how would I do that?

huynh727 said:
So how would I do that?
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do what?
we've covered several different things.

neidlinger said:
do what?
we've covered several different things.
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Backup an app, then restore it as a fresh app without any data from before.

huynh727 said:
Backup an app, then restore it as a fresh app without any data from before.
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after you've rooted
after you've made sure s=off
you need to install the TB from the market and the Pro Key
once you you do that open the app up, download BusyBox via the "problems" button.
Then go to the "backup/restore" button and pick what you want to freeze/backup/restore
if you want to do a batch option from the main screen press the menu > BATCH > then select what you want to .

huynh727 said:
I was wondering how to backup an app WITHOUT backing up the data along with it. I have been having permission problems with my restores after flashing new roms. I believe it has something to do with the user data that comes with the apps.
Basically, how do I backup apps alone, without any of my personal data coming along with it?
Is there such a function on Titanium Backup? I have been using this.
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You can also try MyBackup Root. Its free and a little easier to use than Titanium. Seems to work great for me.

As well as ES file explorer or AntTek app manager.
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Titanium Backup 2.2.1>2.3.3

Hi Guys
I have the rom that you can see in my signature. I'd like to know if, when I'll install the JVH 2.3.3 ROM, I can restore my saved apps with TitaniumBackup without problems.
Thanks

Yes, just remember not to restore system apps. It is also best in my experience not to batch restore but do it one by one, and for most of them just restore the app, not data. Only restore app+data when you really need whatever settings were in the app.
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rschenck said:
Yes, just remember not to restore system apps. It is also best in my experience not to batch restore but do it one by one, and for most of them just restore the app, not data. Only restore app+data when you really need whatever settings were in the app.
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so if i restore app+ data, would I be able to restore the game save files?
like for baseball game..i developed my player to be really good (trained for many hours)
i dont want to lose him

lkh5650, saves are in these programs and will be restored along with them.
I am moving from 2.2.1 to 2.3.3 using Titanium restored all the programs, their data and some system data, as pim (log of calls can not be restored). Everything else I do not advise.

Lar3s said:
lkh5650, saves are in these programs and will be restored along with them.
I am moving from 2.2.1 to 2.3.3 using Titanium restored all the programs, their data and some system data, as pim (log of calls can not be restored). Everything else I do not advise.
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thanks for the reply
does that mean i only need to restore the app?? i dont have to restore app+data?

lkh5650, I always choose "Restore all apps with data", and then remove the check mark in the list of unnecessary items (all red - is a system software, and optionally the green - leaving only pim).

Thanks guys!
However, I backup the 90% of the "user apps" (I exclude big games and so on). Then there is no chance to restore system apps or something like this.
Thank you again!

olivercervera said:
Hi Guys
I have the rom that you can see in my signature. I'd like to know if, when I'll install the JVH 2.3.3 ROM, I can restore my saved apps with TitaniumBackup without problems.
Thanks
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Note that you can't revert SMS/MMS from 2.3.3 to 2.2.1 with TB, the database are incompatibles.
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Contacts/Texts/(+other system data) is okay from 2.2.1 -> 2.3.3
However, if you backup system data from 2.3.3 and restore it to 2.2.1 you will get force closes.
So you can upgrade and keep your data, but can't revert

msolus said:
Contacts/Texts/(+other system data) is okay from 2.2.1 -> 2.3.3
However, if you backup system data from 2.3.3 and restore it to 2.2.1 you will get force closes.
So you can upgrade and keep your data, but can't revert
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Or just save all that to Google or your SIM card and restore as needed.
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my experience
hey guys,
i moved from JPJ 2.2.1 to JVB 2.3.3 with all ease and no probs at all. even restored all my messages and contacts. here's what i did.
1. backup eveything with titanium. all of it.
2. use go sms to backup all your sms's.
3. use contacts to export ur contacts to sd.
4. flash JVB da way u want.
5. once ur on 2.3.3 and running all well. install TB. goto batch option. click restore missing apps. in the menu select apk only. and recheck all apps are user apps only. if there is a system app (in green or red) deselect it.
And voila! all ur apps are back. now u can pick and choose wich ones u want to restore data for. personally i found restoring data for games is no problem.
6. via my files app goto ex-sd card and find out the .vcf file that was created by contacts and click it. itl will restore all ur contacts.
7. reinstall go sms. and restore your messages.
8. create a nandroid as quickly as you can so u can avoid all the inconvenience and simply restore data from nandroid when u change to another gingerbread from this one.
Cheers! and happy flashing

[Q] Steps to restore apps and data from Titanium Backup?

All,
I'm thinking of doing a full system wipe and reinstall cyanogenmod 7.03. What I don't understand is the steps involved. When you do a full wipe, Titanium is not installed. So after the first reboot, do you skip through android initial set up and go to market and install titanium backup? And once you go to market you need to log on anyways, so once you log on, by default it will automatically download all missing apps.
So I need a step by step on how to recover backup from titanium after a full wipe. Also, can it backup my settings for my adw launcher ex? Like restore how my widgets look etc....
Thanks!

Nutzzer said:
All,
I'm thinking of doing a full system wipe and reinstall cyanogenmod 7.03. What I don't understand is the steps involved. When you do a full wipe, Titanium is not installed. So after the first reboot, do you skip through android initial set up and go to market and install titanium backup? And once you go to market you need to log on anyways, so once you log on, by default it will automatically download all missing apps.
So I need a step by step on how to recover backup from titanium after a full wipe. Also, can it backup my settings for my adw launcher ex? Like restore how my widgets look etc....
Thanks!
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Once you do the wipe and boot up just sign in to Google as usual because your gonna have to in order to download Titanium Backup. Its supposed to automatically reinstall your apps once you sign in but I've noticed that on GB ROMs it doesn't for me.
Once in Titanium hit menu and hit batch. Scroll down to restore and select which one you want to run. You can select which apps you want to restore or deselect which ever. You can also select if you want to restore the data associated with your apps or just the apps themselves. As for ADW, not sure as I dont use it.

can batch restoring also include system applications which are not relevant if I have installed a completely different rom? is it harmless, or it can override important system applications with same name and cause problems?
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jaibar said:
can batch restoring also include system applications which are not relevant if I have installed a completely different rom? is it harmless, or it can override important system applications with same name and cause problems?
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I know you can back them up and restore them but on different ROMs I dont think they'll play right. Not sure about that because I have never backed system apps or settings do to flashing different ROMs. Give it a try and see what happens. Just make sure you backup in case some thing goes wrong.