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[Q] Possible mod to bring camera flash to the i9000?

First, sorry I doubled this post... I thought I was posting here but I first posted on the fascinate forum...
Maybe it's a stupid question, but if I don't ask it I'll never know
Do you think will it be possible to make a mod to the i9000 and use the Fascinate camera & led flash with it?
It seems to be the very same camera but with led, and it's located in the same spot. And in the i9000 disassemle it seems to be space enough. What I don't know if it's a disassembly of the Fascinate to compare spare parts
What do you think?
Greetings

is too much work.
yes it will work
but who will want to spend time, cutting up their phone back plates, and also the phone inside, to cut the hole for the LED
and you will also need to find the wiring.
the program is easy, just copy and past over the App from Fascinate and use in I9000
i use this instead, it's so easy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7500307&postcount=3

Have you actually tried the phone at night or in a dark room, in night mode? You don't need a flash at all.
This phone in night mode is far superior to any phone I have ever used at night, including 2 LED flash phones. LED flash is mostly useless to begin with, what Samsung has done (increase ambient light sensitivity) is FAR superior.
If any of your friends give you grief about not having a flash, just do a comparison between their phone with flash and yours without, they will quickly be humbled by the results.
EDIT: Check out this post for photo comparisons
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6955200&postcount=6
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/07/is-the-samsung-vibrant-night-mode-a-worthwhile-replacement-to-flash/

i agree with brunes
unfortunately there are a lot of uneducated people that don't believe such technology is possible and bundled with our phones.

Brune has just owned noobs!
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[MOD - HOW TO] FFC for the Vibrant - How to do it

Disclaimer: XDA-Developers has zero affiliation and liability with this, and the sale of these parts is being allowed only for the sake of helping the modding community
My original thread was getting cluttered, and XDA asked me to make some changes, so here is the new thread on HOW TO DO THE MOD.
Breaking news available via my twitter feed, or #vibrantFFC
The US/T-Mobile variant of the Samsung Galaxy S had it's FFC borked prior to manufacturing. This has left us an easy way to add it back in and open up the ability to explore video calling. From my experience thus far, their is poor support for software for FFC's in general, but this seems to be changing. As more of these cameras make it out to devs, expect to see more video calling and chatting apps to start appearing in the near future.
To accomplish this you need a few things:
[*]A camera from the international Galaxy S variant, the i9000s. These are available through a wholesaler that requires a minimum order of 3, sometimes more. If you want to go this route and find a buddy, see my thread for that here.
A small size 0 flat head screw driver and phillips screw driver. Most eyeglass repair kits include screw drivers that are close enough in size to work.
An iPod opener tool, or something similiar.
Something to remove the paint from the digitizer where the FFC goes. Denatured alcohol, and the stronger goo gone varieties are known to work
Q-tips
Some balls (not really - its easy) and common sense (goes a long ways)!
An FFC compatibale ROM - eugene's froyo (2.2) or Bionix (2.1)
Open your phone - Remove the battery cover, sd card, sim card, battery. remove the 7 screws around the back plate, then use the iPod opener tool to snap the rear plate off.
Unsnap the various buckles to release the motherboard.
remove the speaker and original camera
turn the main board clockwise for about an inch to allow some space to work
locate the FFC molding. It is above where the original camera was located. You can dry fit the new camera in place to see where the FFC goes. This is the area that the paint needs to be removed from
Use your remover of choice and some qtips to get that paint off of there
Let things completely dry before putting back together. 10 - 30 minutes should be fine
snap new camera in place, check your work.
If it looks good, installation is reverse of removal.
Some ROMs (2.2 base) do not include the font camera driver. If you cannot get it to work, try copying the attached file (unzip first - should have .yuv extension) to /system/camera on your phone. (requres root)

You can get the camera from here.

maybe you can add the pictures from the other thread?

scrizz said:
maybe you can add the pictures from the other thread?
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good point. adding now

Feel free to use min posted 10/3
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Apologies for the noob question but what do you mean in step 2? Do we actually have to take the motherboard out of the phone like in these videos: http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/ and also is it really necessary to remove the speaker?
EDIT: Sorry for not being descriptive, What I mean is, does the speaker block this "socket"in which the FFC goes? If not then why is it necessary to remove it?

siirial said:
Some ROMs (2.2 base) do not include the font camera driver. If you cannot get it to work, try copying the attached file (unzip first - should have .yuv extension) to /system/camera on your phone. (requres root)
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Do the files go in /system/camera or in /system/cameradata ?
I am trying to work it on the Bionix 1.7 rom and I keep getting errors.
Here are my mod pics just to show off. hehehehe.

NikolaiT said:
Apologies for the noob question but what do you mean in step 2? Do we actually have to take the motherboard out of the phone like in these videos: http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/ and also is it really necessary to remove the speaker?
EDIT: Sorry for not being descriptive, What I mean is, does the speaker block this "socket"in which the FFC goes? If not then why is it necessary to remove it?
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That video is a general disassembly. It isn't specific to this mod. You can make the modification without removing the audio socket/speaker.

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I found a youtube video of showing how to install the camera
my apologies if this was widely known video
here is the link anyways,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCFe2qSQZGA

Dude thank you for this, im going to order the camera from you now and get this front facing camera business going....im tired of my evo buddies talkin ****!
Side note.....im getting < 1000 quadrant scores and I saw somewhere that people were getting over 2000 scores with vibrants....any suggestions?

Does anyone have any video samples to show the quality if the video?
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jstanojevich said:
Does anyone have any video samples to show the quality if the video?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8589612
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8613761

ZeroIsJdm said:
Dude thank you for this, im going to order the camera from you now and get this front facing camera business going....im tired of my evo buddies talkin ****!
Side note.....im getting < 1000 quadrant scores and I saw somewhere that people were getting over 2000 scores with vibrants....any suggestions?
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pretty sure its the lag fix

FFC 'mirror app' FC
got an error 'error occired while trying to open the FFC. The camera could not be started....'
Any Ideas? Loaded Bionix 1.9.1 from Stock today, copied datapattern_front_420sp.yuv in \system\cameradata and tried TWO different cameras
Still nothing. Any other way to test it?
Thanks for any insight

it2steve said:
got an error 'error occired while trying to open the FFC. The camera could not be started....'
Any Ideas? Loaded Bionix 1.9.1 from Stock today, copied datapattern_front_420sp.yuv in \system\cameradata and tried TWO different cameras
Still nothing. Any other way to test it?
Thanks for any insight
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you may want to reflash the rom

it2steve said:
got an error 'error occired while trying to open the FFC. The camera could not be started....'
Any Ideas? Loaded Bionix 1.9.1 from Stock today, copied datapattern_front_420sp.yuv in \system\cameradata and tried TWO different cameras
Still nothing. Any other way to test it?
Thanks for any insight
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It won't run on stock kernel. There are several threads going about the cams. You may want to read them to get a full sense of whats going on. But, it looks promising.

Got mine installed a few minutes ago. I'm not on a rom that supports the FFC but the rear camera works, no lines or fuzziness as some reported. On first opening the camera app I tried to tap to focus and got a force close. Can't get it to happen again so I'm not sure why that happened. Other than that it's working perfectly.
I did notice on installing the camera that NOTHING but the camera needs to be unsnapped. There is a ribbon cable that has to be flexed into place to install the new one but it does save you from removing the whole board (not that it's hard but why bother). On installing the new camera I did notice almost a snap when the ffc popped into place.

Did anyone manage to get a perfectly round hole? I tried for a couple hours with a qtip,some goo gone, and a screwdriver. While the results are respectable I'm curious if anyone found a way?
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tank65 said:
pretty sure its the lag fix
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Yeah....I saw something about how to apply the lag fix...but they gave absolutly not instructions on what it is or how to do it. Would you kindly point me in the right direction
This is what he said about how to apply the lagfix but honestly...no idea what im doing.
"How-to Apply Lagfix to My Rom " Do Not Use another Lagfix as it Breaks my PLaylogos1 Script..."
adb shell
su
mv /system/bin/userinit.sh /system/bin/used
reboot
Then
adb shell
su
busybox dd if=/dev/zero of=/data/dataimg bs=1024 count=1048576
busybox mknod /dev/loop0 b 7 0
busybox losetup /dev/loop0 /data/dataimg
busybox mkfs.ext2 /dev/loop0
mkdir /data/data1
mv /system/bin/used /system/bin/userinit.sh
reboot
Thanks again

Xperia x10 cam port to evo??

Is it possible to port the camera software of the xperia10 to our evo?? Just a curious question
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possibly.
Why, what does it look like? (the only way I could check out an X10 right now is to go ask my ex... probably not gonna. ^^ )
You might lose some functionality (like front facing camera) unless someone's willing to get it all worked out.
Remember, when CM got AOSP camera working, it took them a LONG time to get a lot of stuff working, so it would take a while, and possibly someone REALLY dedicated to working on this.

newsoundwave said:
possibly.
Why, what does it look like? (the only way I could check out an X10 right now is to go ask my ex... probably not gonna. ^^ )
You might lose some functionality (like front facing camera) unless someone's willing to get it all worked out.
Remember, when CM got AOSP camera working, it took them a LONG time to get a lot of stuff working, so it would take a while, and possibly someone REALLY dedicated to working on this.
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thanks for your reply
I was just curious about it, cause some people said that the camera on the evo is from the same company as the camera on the iphone and what makes the images look better is the software.
so i though about the software of the 8MP cam of the xperia (which i also heard that is pretty good) ported to the evo.
It would be nice if somebody get that tested.

[Q] About kernel and camera.

Hi
I am using stock rom (Andro 2.2.1 - Kernel 2.6.32.9-perf)
I updated my rom to Miui 1.10.21 last night and I didn't like it much so I came back to my orginal.
My stock rom is very stable and problem free but :
Miui rom has better camera which one have touch focus like iphone 4.
Is it because different software , better kernel or both ?
I want that camera at my stock rom. What can I do ?
Also I want to update my orginal rom's kernel to better one without update rom.
Can anyone to recommend me a good kernel. ?

Im in same situation as you. Same rom / Same kernel. Really would like to see that camera on this factory stock. I will go for other custom roms later. But for now, As Im begginer, just want to test this rom first.
And maybe you should try CM7 or Oxygen.. Maybe there is your solution for camera with quality rom.

try this:
replace your original camera app with the miuicamera.apk in 7system/app.

levibuko said:
try this:
replace your original camera app with the miuicamera.apk in 7system/app.
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I moved apk file to the system/app and renamed "Camera.apk". (Backed up orginal)
I didn't see it in menu then I did reboot still there is no camera.
and I opened root explorer again pressed on camera.apk it said : Ayrıştırma Hatası (Extraction Error)

reD TigeR said:
I moved apk file to the system/app and renamed "Camera.apk". (Backed up orginal)
I didn't see it in menu then I did reboot still there is no camera.
and I opened root explorer again pressed on camera.apk it said : Ayrıştırma Hatası (Extraction Error)
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I have same problem. Did everything you said and it seems its not compatible.

up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same thing here.. I even looked up online and downloaded a few miui camera apk but all say extraction error... only problem i can see is.. maybe it's for 2.3 but stock rom is 2.2

still have no solution?

up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi,
Firstly, what do your "up!!!!" posts mean? Most of us like the xda-developers community because of the sober discussions here. From here on, please have a little patience. We are here to help you.
As I understand, you want the touch to focus functionality. A free app called "Camera 360" has this feature. Get it from the market, use it on your stock ROM and have fun!
Also, MIUI is much much better than the stock ROM. If youre having issues with it, feel free to discuss them in the MIUI thread in the "Android Development" section.
Soumen

soumen08 said:
Hi,
Firstly, what do your "up!!!!" posts mean? Most of us like the xda-developers community because of the sober discussions here. From here on, please have a little patience. We are here to help you.
As I understand, you want the touch to focus functionality. A free app called "Camera 360" has this feature. Get it from the market, use it on your stock ROM and have fun!
Also, MIUI is much much better than the stock ROM. If youre having issues with it, feel free to discuss them in the MIUI thread in the "Android Development" section.
Soumen
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well I wanted to keep post up because no one answered straightly :\
and thanks for your answer also :
I tried lgcamera , camera360 , camera zoom fx , camera advance and sleek camera.
Took same shots with each one and compared.
Camera zoom fx and camera 360 is nice but touch to zoom is not full functional at camera 360 , usually wrong focus problem.
Also lgcamera is good at video recording.
But main question is can I install new kernel without change stock rom ?
I have no problems with stock rom

Hi,
The post does not need to be kept alive. Truth is, if people are interested in the post, it will stay alive on its own. If you keep putting dummy posts, it isn't going to help in any way and might indeed be counterproductive. Infact, I thought several times before replying to this post. Most OPs who are like this are difficult to have any kind of constructive discussion with.
So, camera360 focuses in the wrong place? I find that hard to believe. In any case, I fail to see what the kernel will do to fix that. I would like it if you clarified a little. You have me totally confused here. Do you want a new kernel? If so, why? Do you want a camera with touch to focus? Do you want both?
Soumen

soumen08 said:
Hi,
The post does not need to be kept alive. Truth is, if people are interested in the post, it will stay alive on its own. If you keep putting dummy posts, it isn't going to help in any way and might indeed be counterproductive. Infact, I thought several times before replying to this post. Most OPs who are like this are difficult to have any kind of constructive discussion with.
So, camera360 focuses in the wrong place? I find that hard to believe. In any case, I fail to see what the kernel will do to fix that. I would like it if you clarified a little. You have me totally confused here. Do you want a new kernel? If so, why? Do you want a camera with touch to focus? Do you want both?
Soumen
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My camera 360 Settings :
(P) Normal Mode --> Normal
Shot Mode [Auto Focus]
Focus Mode [Press scren to focus; Click shot button to shoot]
I put 3 objects to top of my desk , one is close , one is far and other one is between them.
Because of my angle I have background too (Like a earphones and ex. HDD)
When I press and focus closest one that object dosent look focused , Also after I take a shoot middle one is sharp and closest one is blurred.
When I press middle one my background is sharp that three object is blur.
When I press the far one middle one is sharp other scenes are blur.
Also I tried this with macro. Still cant focus where I press. And I didnt go so close it was focusable distance.
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About kernel.
I heard some kernels are better than stock kernel.
I am happy with my rom I dont have any problem. But I am thinkin If I update my kernel or change my kernel only is there a any improvements at my phone.

Hi,
Ill try something similar with camera 360 (and the MIUI camera app) in a bit and post results. If it is indeed how you say it is, then the algorithm is flawed and there is little we can do about it.
About the kernel, it is possible to use other kernels as far as I can see. Make a backup of your boot.img and recovery.img and try out some other kernel. Franco's kernel should be fine. In case it does not work, we can always go back to the older ones. Truthfully speaking, you should actually use some of the gingerbread roms instead, they are much more battery efficient for one thing.
Soumen

[Q] Why has no-one tried to hardware mod the camera?

Hi,
why has no-one tried to hardware mod the camera for the nexus 4? I've not yet seen anyone at least try to fit an Optimus G camera into a Nexus 4 slot, or tried to see if we can squeeze a samsung camera in there? I'm surprised no-one has just ordered the parts and seen if they could mod the kernels to accept them. Is there a reason why no-one has done this?
Don't tell me to get a better phone/camera either - XDA should be trying to push these limits by default.
Who's willing to take a shot, or message someone who knows more about these? I haven't found anyone talking about if the connectors are the same/different.
pin count looks the same:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LG-Googl...cement_Parts_Tools&hash=item1c3160edcd&_uhb=1
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original...cement_Parts_Tools&hash=item3cd3f2ef2b&_uhb=1

Not a bad idea... I don't have the skills for software, but I'd happily try that if I could get my hands in a câmera module. I'm already considering going for the battery mod anyway...
Maybe if someone is happy to send one of these down to Brazil, I'd try to snuggle it on the camera slot...
Do we have working drivers for custom roms for the Optimus G?
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Well, just bought Optimus G camera for my Nexus 4 just because of curiosity. It will take some time for it to arrive. (about 2 weeks) I will swap it and we will see what happens. Will keep you posted. Im not a software dev, so if it wont work plug and play style I would appreciate some help from software devs

syrusas said:
Well, just bought Optimus G camera for my Nexus 4 just because of curiosity. It will take some time for it to arrive. (about 2 weeks) I will swap it and we will see what happens. Will keep you posted. Im not a software dev, so if it wont work plug and play style I would appreciate some help from software devs
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it would be good for a dev to outline what we would need for them to make it work.

syrusas said:
Well, just bought Optimus G camera for my Nexus 4 just because of curiosity. It will take some time for it to arrive. (about 2 weeks) I will swap it and we will see what happens. Will keep you posted. Im not a software dev, so if it wont work plug and play style I would appreciate some help from software devs
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Unless you know how to solder and know how the circuitry is, I'm pretty sure it won't fit, unless I'm wrong. Manufacturers come up with different connector for every camera module to prevent them to be interchangeable, forcing you to buy their new phones.

It's pretty easy to interchange it. I had a broken screen and back glass nexus which I transplanted to a new front housing and it was basically plug and play.
From what I saw in the pictures, the Optimus G module is pretty much the same.
I guess that extracting the modules from an 4.3 Optimus Rom and using on a N4 custom rom should do the trick if a skilled rom cooker is involved.
I'm no heisenberg, but could try doing the swap, but as I said, didn't had the cash at the time I saw this thread, and when I got it, due to the lashing, I prefered to go on with the parallel battery mod (which btw is awesome, got almost 6 hours of screen on and 24h device on with very heavy use)

AdrienC said:
It's pretty easy to interchange it. I had a broken screen and back glass nexus which I transplanted to a new front housing and it was basically plug and play.
From what I saw in the pictures, the Optimus G module is pretty much the same.
I guess that extracting the modules from an 4.3 Optimus Rom and using on a N4 custom rom should do the trick if a skilled rom cooker is involved.
I'm no heisenberg, but could try doing the swap, but as I said, didn't had the cash at the time I saw this thread, and when I got it, due to the lashing, I prefered to go on with the parallel battery mod (which btw is awesome, got almost 6 hours of screen on and 24h device on with very heavy use)
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Go for it!
(also, mind linking to some more detail on that battery mod?

Moeyyyy said:
Go for it!
(also, mind linking to some more detail on that battery mod?
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Sure, I followed this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239829
The battery voltage equalization is very important. I've done some research about it because I was having issues to make them the same voltage and read some physic academic articles and forum threads warning for serious damage if it's not followed(battery can explode).
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