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Sigh. My Evo's Battery Life is Rediculous (not typical)

Fully charged my phone night before last and went to work in the morning (9am). I didn't touch it all day, didn't even turn it on. On my drive home at 5pm it was dead, off.
I plugged it in with the phone off when I got home and saw that it was fully charged a few hours later around 10pm and I booted it up and left it alone. This morning it was dead, off.
Looking at the apps that take up my battery doesn't work because it doesn't retain information what happened to the phone prior to the last reboot. Not sure what to do. My awake time matches my standby time exactly. It's obviously a 100% awake time problem but what's triggering this?
I'm on Fresh .3 with absolutely no other mods. I don't think I have any apps that ping outside servers. So what the ****!?
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lulz, I just realized I haven't been even able to use the phone in 3 days due to this issue

Something is eating your battery obviously.
Restore to stock and see if you have the same issues.

Bielinsk said:
Something is eating your battery obviously.
Restore to stock and see if you have the same issues.
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That's a PITA. This is a clean fresh .3 rom install with only logmein, dropbox and couple non-online games installed. Why is this phone such ****ing fail right now.

Have you removed the Favorites widget? Doing that stopped all battery drain problems for me. Just delete the widget.

First thing to check is if you have a sufficient cellular signal. If you are getting a weak signal it will cause poor battery life. If cell signal strength is not your problem then it is definitely something you have installed on it eating away at your battery. That said check/do the following:
1) Check how frequently you have your accounts syncing
2) Before the phone dies look in your battery use to see what's eating your battery
3) Install a task manager/killer (I use Advanced Task Killer)
4) You don't have to do this one but it does help. I use a program called Startup Auditor to disable startup on apps I don't need to run when the phone first boots (you'd be surprised how many are in there).

cbuc1125 said:
Have you removed the Favorites widget? Doing that stopped all battery drain problems for me. Just delete the widget.
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delete it completely or remove it from one of the home panels?

the "time without signal" workarounds seem to prove the most effective for me. in addition, reduce background usage and automatic update frequencies as best as you can.
according to this thread [http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709768] (and link within), HTC has acknowledged some issues and is preparing to deploy a few fixes.

You are running someone else's ROM, there could be a problem with the radio, or a problem with the way it was loaded.
If you are in an area where you don't get signal, you are going to drain the battery, and FAST.
Do you have 4g on but not in a 4g area?

I am...
fully rooted and have fresh .3 as well. I am getting over 30hrs with moderate use and the last hour of that I had everything on to purposely run it down to dead. (was doing a toastch recommeded battery meter calibration).
Took my phone off the charger last night at 7:30 pm. It's 2:23pm and I have 31% left. I have Wifi, BT, and Background apps with auto sync turned on.
I would say you might be experiencing the Motorola cell tower problem. HTC has confirmed that the EVO is not playing well with cell towers that have motorola transmitters. It is causing the phone to use more energy to dial in the tower.
To be sure...
1. Set all apps and widgets to manual update or update once a day.
2. Get rid of the people app or widget from any home screen.
3. Go into Gtalk and uncheck auto sign in. Then sign out when you exit the program.
4. charge the phone until the green light comes on. Don't use a battery meter. The second the green light comes on, go into recovery and wipe the battery stats. Reboot the phone and run it until the battery dies and will not longer power the phone. This does nothing for the battery but does recalibrate the internal battery meter.
5. For maximum life...turn off: background data, WiFi, BT, and Mobile networks when not using. keep screen at 1/2 brightness.
If I do the above and manually update mail, weather, social apps, etc... and only turn radios on when I need them, I can get 40 hrs. out of my EVO and this is under moderate to high moderate use.
One other thing....plug your phone in for 10 minutes. Then unplug it and go into immediate stand by for like 30 minutes. Go to settings>about phone>battery>battery use>cell standby. Time without signal should be very low....anything over 10-15% and I'd suspect that if you did everything in 1-5, you have a towers issue robbing your battery.

I was having awake time issues with Fresh .3, so I switched to DamageControl, and everything has been great. Unplugged this morning at 7, and I still have 75% battery remaining. Better battery life than the Hero or BlackBerry Tour!

scirio said:
That's a PITA. This is a clean fresh .3 rom install with only logmein, dropbox and couple non-online games installed. Why is this phone such ****ing fail right now.
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I don't have any of those problems at all. You probably have a bad battery/phone.

sherman901 said:
I don't have any of those problems at all. You probably have a bad battery/phone.
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i would agree with you but i am having a similar issue and sometimes i get great battery life and other times its just unacceptable. Check out my thread here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709704

scirio said:
Fully charged my phone night before last and went to work in the morning (9am). I didn't touch it all day, didn't even turn it on. On my drive home at 5pm it was dead, off.
I plugged it in with the phone off when I got home and saw that it was fully charged a few hours later around 10pm and I booted it up and left it alone. This morning it was dead, off.
Looking at the apps that take up my battery doesn't work because it doesn't retain information what happened to the phone prior to the last reboot. Not sure what to do. My awake time matches my standby time exactly. It's obviously a 100% awake time problem but what's triggering this?
I'm on Fresh .3 with absolutely no other mods. I don't think I have any apps that ping outside servers. So what the ****!?
EDIT:
lulz, I just realized I haven't been even able to use the phone in 3 days due to this issue
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I seem to be having the same problem as you and it is quite frustrating. I get a steady 10% battery drain every hour even when its idle. I tried juice defender and setcpu and it is still the same. I turned off all my sync accounts and nothing. I also have systempanel and it doesn't seem like theres a rogue app eating my batteries.I'm going to truth to stock tonight to see if something is wrong with my phone. Did you ever figure out what was wrong with your phone?

AVA9 i get 20 hours a charge
but YES something is eating your battery install system pan have and let it run a bit and check the info id bet its
1 your evo spend a lot of tWOS
2 you have a rogue app eating your battery

Way to bump an ancient thread.

DOH dear god i did not look at that lol

I do apologize for bumping such an old thread, but I feel like this thread has already asked much of what I also wanted to ask but have not reached a conclusion. Therefore I would like to try and solve the problem or provide as much info as I can to solve the problem.
I indeed have installed systempanel and here are the screenshots for the day.
imgur.com/mzAE3.png
imgur.com/zA2Vi.png
imgur.com/OLDtt.png
(sorry my account is not allowed to post links)
As you can see besides the internet, there is nothing else thats taking up the battery. Also I took this pic after I put the phone on the charger for a bit, it was at ~ 13% before. The battery usage information says a majority of the battery was used by #1 android system and #2 cell standby, it was neck and neck almost, with #3 being phone idle. My weather app polls every 3 hours, my facebook syncs every 30 mins, my htc sense facebook syncs once a day, and I have not configured any other emails except for two gmail acconts, which received probably 3 emails throughout the whole day.
I just used setcpu today, it made absolutely no difference. Same results as yesterday when I did not have setcpu. Thanks in advance for the help!

dude you need to try my setup: superevo and setcpu
i got 7 days of battery using the evo as a simple phone.
http://edsandroid.blogspot.com/2010/10/7-days-battery-potential.html

proloss said:
dude you need to try my setup: superevo and setcpu
i got 7 days of battery using the evo as a simple phone.
http://edsandroid.blogspot.com/2010/10/7-days-battery-potential.html
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Why would anyone use an EVO as a simple phone.
I am beginning to think peoples opinions on moderate use vary tooooo much. The EVO is similar to an unplugged laptop. The more you make the cpu work the faster your battery is going to drain.
It seems some people just dont get that.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

scirio said:
That's a PITA. This is a clean fresh .3 rom install with only logmein, dropbox and couple non-online games installed. Why is this phone such ****ing fail right now.
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Sounds like Operator error.

Juice defender drains my battery and overheats the phone.

EDIT: Problem fixed, factory reset and reinstalling helped, see my next post further down.
Now testing Juice defender to see if it really improves things considering I am already managing phone features on my own. See post on next page.
Just like title mentions:
Juice defender drains my battery and overheats the phone.
This is what I did:
I downloaded and installed juice defender from the market.
I took a look in the program, it asked asked something about autodetecting the phone. I let it perform the autodetection.
Once in the program i took a fast glance ofer the settings (didn't touch anything or change anything after autodetection)
I thought that I'd deal with it later and then I put the phone aside.
A few minutes later, the phone beeps. So I pick it up to see what it "beeps" about.
A warning message that the temperature have risen over 50 degree Celsius (122 Farenheit)
The phone was HOT!
Also I've found the battery have drained over 25% during these few minutes I left it alone since Juice defender got installed.
Suddenly the phone reboots without any whatsoever reason, just straight into the boot screen.
From here on it all starts over again:
Phone overheats (as it is already hot), warning message about temperature, battery keeps draining FAST.
I check the SetCPU application and see that the CPU constantly at it's full speed.
SetCPU are set on "On demand".
I took the conclusion something are working hard and are loading the cpu to it's full capacity.
I shut down the phone, pulls the battery, let it cooldown for 30 minutes.
Once the phone is cool again I replug the battery, boots up the phone.
Now back into standby mode, the phone slowly gets warmer, the battery are almost empty and keeps draining fast.
Soon the battery are out of juice and the phone shuts off. The phone got hot during those few minutes.
Now I put the charger in, boot the phone up and the first thing I do is uninstall juice defender, reboot the phone to make sure it's not left in memory.
Now the phone are back to it's normal behavior, SetCPU reports low speed, still set on "On demand".
It charges normally and the phone keeps cool, even after 20 minutes.
Conclusion: Once I install Juice defender and let it "autodetect" it start loading the CPU to 100% and drains the battery without any message or whatsoever.
Killing juice defender itself does not help, draining and overheating keeps happening.
Uninstall and reboot got rid of the problem.
As of now, I will NOT use juice defender at all. Won't even touch it.
Maybe I don't have to. The R2BA023 firmware is good enough as it is.
Any ideas what's wrong here?
Phone: Sony Ericsson X10i
Baseband: 1.1.27
Firmware: R2BA023 (Rooted)

Same config, no problem.
I've also got an X10i with a rooted R2BA023 (or whatever it's called). I use Juice Defender with none of your described problems. I only charge my phone every other or third day. Have you tried reinstalling? I'm thinking that it could have been something that went wrong during the installation.

i've got unrooted X10i R2BA024 with juicedefender installed, but those issues didnt occur

if this makes you feel any better

realunited123 said:
if this makes you feel any better
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Which app is this ?

mattiL said:
Which app is this ?
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Juice defender

realunited123 said:
if this makes you feel any better
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Did you turn everything off?
mine is rooted 023 with juicedefender, and I get x1.91
no heating issues though....
Bloke

as you can see no... i dont know what happened at that time it showed 4.99 lol after that with time it decreased to 1.7 might be a bug... thought it was good one to test shoot me so took a snap..

Martin5000 said:
I've also got an X10i with a rooted R2BA023 (or whatever it's called). I use Juice Defender with none of your described problems. I only charge my phone every other or third day. Have you tried reinstalling? I'm thinking that it could have been something that went wrong during the installation.
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You gave me an idea there, and helped me solve my problem.
Reinstalling Juice defender did not help. However, factory reset and reinstall did help.
Not sure what could have caused this, but something odd was in the way, and that "odd" whatever it was, went away with a factory reset.
Also a few other minor "jerks" vanished with the factory reset.
I would suggest anyone who have rooted the X10 according to the instructions found here at xda-developer, also perform a factory reset afterwards, if there are strange problems:
Jerky and/or laggy screen.
Applications suddenly closing without any messages.
Phone suddenly locks the SIM card in middle of anything, where you have to unlock it again with the pin code.
Phone completely freezes up for a minute or two, only to recover afterwards, as nothing happened.
Screen unlocking itself without anyone or anything touching it, or anything connected.
I also had to repeat Step3 according to the rooting instructions, where superuser.apk and some other nice applications gets installed after the factory reset.
Once this was done I resynced the phone to get my contacts back, then straight on to Juice defender.
Juice defender now works (I think).
What's left to do now is to play around with the settings and reinstall some other applications. I will also avoid using the last set of Titanium backups I have, due to the risk of the "problem" coming back.

Mayve the problem is caused by JD + SetCPU?

I use JuiceDefender and SetCPU together and they work fine for me. When the phone is idle, i.e. REALLY idle - no bluetooth, wifi off, APN off, no apps running other than SetCPU, JD and a few ignored ones - there are times when the battery drain is practically 0% over an hour. According to the JuicePlotter chart, anyway.

Next report:
So far, so good, Everything seems to be working, and no, the combination JD and SetCPU are not the cause of the problem.
I have both installed and both are playing nicely together, no fights in the sandbox so far. Maybe I don't need both?
I do however believe that Juice defender is a bit overrated (but not much).
I usually keep my wlan, bluetooth etc. turned off when I don't use em.
Juice-defender just makes this semi-automatic. So for me, who are already keeping my "bells and whistles" at a minimum, juice defender doesn't help that much.
The R2BA023 firmware/ROM/patch (or what it's called) does improve the power consumption ALOT by itself, and together with SetCPU and my manually handling of the phones features when I need em, maybe makes Juice Defender superfluous in my case.
I will now first let Juice Defender log my everyday usage without it being active (just logging).
After a few days from here on, I try with Juice defender "activated" and see if it improves anything in my case.
I'll be back...

I have Juice Defender Ultimate (purchased) and I have not had any problems with it ever since.
I'm currently testing it with my newly installed CM7-ZMOD CYANOGENMOD 7.
Hope I don't get anything bad from this. I don't even know if having Juice Defender is recommendd with mods as I am new to modding, rooting and flashing.

[Q] Is this normal battery use?

After 8.5 hrs of sleep I woke up to only 77% battery and when I went to bed it was at 100%... so with ZERO use of the phone it dropped 23%.. seems like a lot to me but is this normal for everyone? I'm running DJ05, Superclean .7, the stable version of geekniks kernel..

If I don't set airplane mode when I go to sleep at night, after 8 hours I will have lost anywhere from 20-30% of my battery. I have terrible coverage at my place, so that is the reason that is causing it. It's not nearly as bad if I turn off sync, but still drops >10%. In airplane mode though, I lost 2-3% over 8 hours last night.

I'm having the same problem, even at work if I take my phone off at full charge and just let it sit, 3hrs later its down 20%. and that's with me not touching it. I'm running the same thing

I turn auto-sync off at night and go to bed with 97% and wake up with 94%. I had battery issues with the xda app before though SEE HERE. No one else seems to have noticed this and it even contiued into DJ05. Might be something to look into or you might discover what is killing you.
good day.

Wipe the battery stats after flashing a kernel or rom. But before you do that, charge the phone to 100%. After wiping battery stats, disconnect the charger and use the phone regularly and let it die out. Then charge it back to 100%, not turning it on. This is a battery calibration, and I always do this after flashing a kernel. I've had instances where I've had the battery go down 1% during the night after doing this.
Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, Clocked at 1.3Ghz

Eh, it's a bit surprising that display took up 40% while your phone was supposedly asleep; maybe something woke it up during the night and turned the screen on.

That's about what I get over night, but i'm using a not using a custom kernel.

try a different kernel
after trying every kernel available, ive ended up with jt's 11/29 kernel being the absolute best on battery life. im getting around 30 hours with normal use, all other kernels seem to last 12-14 on my phone.

I turned off auto sync and only lost 10%.. So that helped, I also just installed a new kernel so we well see how that runs too..
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did the battery calibration and I have had the phone off the charger and using it for about an hour now and it only dropped one percent so far..usually it would be like 15 percent
SCH-I500 - DJ05/SuperClean .9/Nemesis OTB 1200lv/Voodoo5/Darkstar

*228 option 2 happened to me 3 weeks ago
Edit also erase battery stats
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One improvement I have noticed in the battery is it cut off about 1/3 of the time to get a charge.. In about 2 hours I went from 23% to 85% (with the phone running) and there is no way I would have been able to do that when I was running DI01.. IDK if it has anything to do with with the ROM, Kernel, or the fact that I'm on DJ05 but ever since I updated my charge time was cut by 1/3..

Hi there,
as you can see at the screenshot, there is about 3 to 6 Percent CPU Activity, no Device usage and the Battery drained from 100 down to 70% over night. I tried it with
1)Battery Doc (cycle charge)
2)Delete the battery history, and did this
1.Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more
2.Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour
3.Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for one hour
it looks like that this is normal, right ?
Thanks for your help

what is your time without service? Settings > About Phone > Battery Use > Cell Standby

Thx for the quick response, it is 37%. "Witout service" means, the phone tries to find a signal, or some kind of "sleep mode" ?

rebirthan1x said:
Thx for the quick response, it is 37%. "Witout service" means, the phone tries to find a signal, or some kind of "sleep mode" ?
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It means that it's trying to find a signal. The more it tries to find a signal, the more the battery drains. Try putting it into airplane mode at night, probably will only have a few % lost on the battery then.

Actually it won't matter if you use a custom rom or kernel, smartphone these days will lose battery like crazy if you use heavy net data. I have DX and Droid2, they are the same way with froyo.
Also in case those of who didn't know, whenever you flash a rom, you automatically wipe your battery stats and others.
You definitely shouldn't wipe battery stats when you are on the midway. You should wipe either at nearly dying or completely full. However, wiping battery only "recalibrates," it does not increase the actual battery juice.

Different ROMs/kernels can help you minimize the battery drain as much as possible though by limiting how much is used by the cpu or background apps accessing the net.

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Different ROMs/kernels can help you minimize the battery drain as much as possible though by limiting how much is used by the cpu or background apps accessing the net.
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Actually no. Different roms have all the same basic data usage, basic google auto-sync. Roms can't control what or how much data will be used by an app. Kernels also can't control how much net data will be utilized. Kernels can shutoff apps based on complier/lowmemkiller fix but that is based on the memory status, not net data usage.

What is the app's name for the battery usage percentage?
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[Q] mikg 1.03 battery issues

This is by far my favorite Rom yet but I'm having battery issues that I haven't had before. I unplugged my phone last night at 100% and when i woke up 5 hours later my battery was at 68% normally it would only drop about 10% or less in 5 hours. any ideas? I have all new radios and wimax and such.

Is your phone sleeping?
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Once we get a new custom kernel, it should remedy the battery issues on that ROM.
We just have to wait for HTC to release the source for the latest kernel.

OK stupid question how do I know if my phone is sleeping ?

At 7am I reset battery stats and put in a 100% battery (charged on an external charger)
Now (11:15) I am at 69% I expect this to get better once the batt stats are done.
I have new radios and the kernel for the ROM.

stock battery. i dont think my phone is sleeping.

If you have mobile data on, your battery will drain a lot faster, especially while we're all stuck with the stock kernel

No battery problems here. Altho it is the stock Kernel, i can easily use my phone for a full day with several calls, a bit of gaming and youtube (3G) while in the pooper and have 50-60% remaining in the evening
Try to reduce app sync frequency (you don't need that when in bed really..), LED notifications
No juice defender, or taskiller, or extended battery- just using setCPU with "onDemand" governor

That's about where mine is, too. I'm used to my SBC setup though, where I'd be at 85% by the end of the day.

You should not be losing that much battery over night. I generally only lose 2-3%. Have you checked your battery usage? Post a screen shot of it.
It looks like this
http://smartphoneblogging.com/wp-co...ngerbread_battery_consumption_app_graphic.png
You can see when your phone is awake vs screen off. And if you click on the apps in the list, it will tell you how long that app kept the phone awake,

So when can we expect a custom kernel. i use set cpu with ondemand also no juice defender or app killers here either.

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So when can we expect a custom kernel. i use set cpu with ondemand also no juice defender or app killers here either.
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Probably at the end of the month. :/
If watching paint dry is your thing, you can look back here
http://developer.htc.com/

my phone signal and wifi are lit up all way across i can see my phone wakes in tiny increments and then sleeps

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my phone signal and wifi are lit up all way across i can see my phone wakes in tiny increments and then sleeps
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So something is waking up your device then. You don't have the wake lock issue. Do you use google latitude? That is a huge battery hog

yes i do use latitude all my sync like facebook and weather are set to 1 hour but have always been and never had this problem before.

gfullwr70 said:
yes i do use latitude all my sync like facebook and weather are set to 1 hour but have always been and never had this problem before.
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Try it w/o latitude on. I only drop 1-2 maybe 3% through the night once i turned those off. I have my facebook contacts set to sync once a day (don't really need more than that unless you add friends a lot or they update their picture frequently)
Weather I have set to 3 hours, but there is an option to update on device wake..so that isn't an issue either.
Give it a try and see if it helps.
Also if you haven't calibrated your battery, charge your phone to 100%, boot to recovery and wipe battery stats, drain battery til phone shuts off and then charge phone back to 100%. I can usually get about 24 hours of moderate use out of my phone.

ok will try those. i did battery wipe just yesterday

just click the link in my signature for some really good battery tips

OK guys so nothing I done helped my battery life while sleeping so I wiped wiped and wiped again and reflashed twice set everything back up and now my phone sleeps again. These roms can be funny like that sometimes I guess. Any thoughts on that?
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Roms, especially ones that are ports, can be weird like that sometimes. If a couple of wipes and a re-flash did the trick then I'd say that's great.
If not, then it's just bad luck I guess. Hopefully the kernel source will come out in the next few weeks and we'll be able to get kernels that can squeeze out better battery life.

Something is killing my battery

The past few weeks I have been getting horrible battery use. I have a 5900 battery. I dont use my phone much. I have had the phone off the charger for 9 hours today and its at 62% now. It says screen has used 18% and android system has used 16%. I have only turned on the phone a couple times today to check my mail.
I thought maybe I had an app get updated and started using the GPS in the background. So I disabled the GPS for a couple days and it didnt have any affect on the battery usage. I went in to TB and disabled several apps that I saw running in the background like amazon.
I wiped my phone and re rooted it last week. That didnt help either. Im on NK2 4.4.4
Any help would be very much appreciated. Its driving me crazy. Ive tried everything I can think of.

nwalker77 said:
The past few weeks I have been getting horrible battery use. I have a 5900 battery. I dont use my phone much. I have had the phone off the charger for 9 hours today and its at 62% now. It says screen has used 18% and android system has used 16%. I have only turned on the phone a couple times today to check my mail.
I thought maybe I had an app get updated and started using the GPS in the background. So I disabled the GPS for a couple days and it didnt have any affect on the battery usage. I went in to TB and disabled several apps that I saw running in the background like amazon.
I wiped my phone and re rooted it last week. That didnt help either. Im on NK2 4.4.4
Any help would be very much appreciated. Its driving me crazy. Ive tried everything I can think of.
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Were you able to fix your problem? I went to verizion yesterday and the rep gave me the usual, "Oh, you have too many apps open, oh free up some space" which we all know isn't the problem.
But I did notice he disabled "Show CPU Usage" as suggested in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/rant-lollipop-piece-garbage-t3085468/page2
From this morning, my phone has only gone down 30% (it's usually dead by now) and it's not overheating. My guess was that disabling "Show CPU Usage" helped.

I believe the extended battery (Mugen) has gone bad. I have put the factory small battery back in it and im getting better life out of it than I am with the 5900 extended battery.