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Too many questions...

...so i put them all in one thread. .
Hello everyone.
Just got a TyTn. Quite a change from my old K800, but im sure i'll adjust.
Ive been reading around here for a few weeks now in antisipation of my TyTn arriving. So know a few things already, like the highly rated 'batti' battery app.
I have a few questions about it though that i cant find definate answers on:
- Is it possible to have custom ringtones for each contact?
- How do i close programs? As at the moment they just seem to minimise, and the only way i can find to actually close them is through the memory app in settings.
- How do i install the today screen app called 'Launcher' its not a cab file like the rest of the programs ive installed.
- Is there a today screen plugin i can use to lock the phone when i press it?
- Some of my contacts are listed as 'elliot, fred' rarther than 'fred elliot'. How do i fix that?
- Is it possible to have full screen contact images? Ive got contact images setup for a few of my contacts, but they only ever show up as a tiny icon when opening a txt (havnt tryed incoming calls yet), is there a way to make it so that when i get a txt i get the picture instead of/extra to the standard popup?
- Emoticons. How/can i put them in txt messages? (actually view them, not the pure text equilivent.).
Thanks in advance all.
Any help would be much appricated. .

boomam said:
...so i put them all in one thread. .
Hello everyone.
Just got a TyTn. Quite a change from my old K800, but im sure i'll adjust.
Ive been reading around here for a few weeks now in antisipation of my TyTn arriving. So know a few things already, like the highly rated 'batti' battery app.
I have a few questions about it though that i cant find definate answers on:
- Is it possible to have custom ringtones for each contact? YES
- How do i close programs? As at the moment they just seem to minimise, and the only way i can find to actually close them is through the memory app in settings. 1. Search for X Button Program 2.Get A Custom ROM
- How do i install the today screen app called 'Launcher' its not a cab file like the rest of the programs ive installed. Be More Specific
- Is there a today screen plugin i can use to lock the phone when i press it? Start-Settings-Today Screen-Items Tab, or download 'device lock (before you even ask, use the search function
- Some of my contacts are listed as 'elliot, fred' rarther than 'fred elliot'. How do i fix that? OMFG
- Is it possible to have full screen contact images? Ive got contact images setup for a few of my contacts, but they only ever show up as a tiny icon when opening a txt (havnt tryed incoming calls yet), is there a way to make it so that when i get a txt i get the picture instead of/extra to the standard popup? ok this is getting ridiculous
- Emoticons. How/can i put them in txt messages? (actually view them, not the pure text equilivent.).
Thanks in advance all.
Any help would be much appricated. .
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Ok I tried to help, but geez dude. I think this forum may be a little advanced for you. There are plenty of other websites and forums that can help you with these questions. Before you post any more questions:
1. Read The Windows Mobile Manual
2. Learn how to use the search function
3. Spend a little more time reading
4. Read a little more.
5. Come back and post questions when you ACTUALLY have a phone. THis way you can try to figure things out on the phone before you start asking questions.
Good Luck!
<sighs, then sits on hands to prevent pulling out n00b cannon>
MODS You know what to do, this thread is gonna get HOT

boomam said:
...so i put them all in one thread. .
Hello everyone.
Just got a TyTn. Quite a change from my old K800, but im sure i'll adjust.
Ive been reading around here for a few weeks now in antisipation of my TyTn arriving. So know a few things already, like the highly rated 'batti' battery app.
I have a few questions about it though that i cant find definate answers on:
- Is it possible to have custom ringtones for each contact?
- How do i close programs? As at the moment they just seem to minimise, and the only way i can find to actually close them is through the memory app in settings.
- How do i install the today screen app called 'Launcher' its not a cab file like the rest of the programs ive installed.
- Is there a today screen plugin i can use to lock the phone when i press it?
- Some of my contacts are listed as 'elliot, fred' rarther than 'fred elliot'. How do i fix that?
- Is it possible to have full screen contact images? Ive got contact images setup for a few of my contacts, but they only ever show up as a tiny icon when opening a txt (havnt tryed incoming calls yet), is there a way to make it so that when i get a txt i get the picture instead of/extra to the standard popup?
- Emoticons. How/can i put them in txt messages? (actually view them, not the pure text equilivent.).
Thanks in advance all.
Any help would be much appricated. .
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Have you even read the threads / wiki / use the search button?
JFC...

peezy said:
Ok I tried to help, but geez dude. I think this forum may be a little advanced for you. There are plenty of other websites and forums that can help you with these questions. Before you post any more questions:
1. Read The Windows Mobile Manual
2. Learn how to use the search function
3. Spend a little more time reading
4. Read a little more.
5. Come back and post questions when you ACTUALLY have a phone. THis way you can try to figure things out on the phone before you start asking questions.
Good Luck!
<sighs, then sits on hands to prevent pulling out n00b cannon>
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This is the best advice for you with your issues....
peezy said:
MODS You know what to do, this thread is gonna get HOT
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locking thread to prevent a full on n00b assault...

HTC home screen for WM 5

I keep seeing the fancy looking home screen plug in for WM 6. Is there a similar home screen plug in from HTC for WM 5 that I can use with my 8525? If so how can I get it? Is it free? How do I install it? And I do not know how to do what you guys refer to as reg hacks - so should I just stay away from the topic? I did do some searching and everything comes up under WM 6, or it is not clear if it is WM 5 or 6. Also, I do not want to do anything that will void my warranty - will it? I appreciate any responses. Sorry for being the worlds biggest newbie.

I can't tell you too much about the HTC Home Screen because of I am not using it!
However, 'hacking' the registry will not avoid your warranty! In case you do something wrong: simply hard reset your device and everything should be back to normal and factory default!
If you want to be able to access your PDA's registry you will need a REGISTRY EDITOR installed on your PDA. There are plenty good ones out there! I personally use RESCO EXPLORER 2007 + REGISTRY ADD-IN. You can find a trial version here: http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/explorer/default.asp
To get your HOME SCREEN fancy looking: even here you can find lots of stuff without having to hack anything! One really good application which changes not only your TODAY SCREEN is SPB MOBILE SHELL - more info here: http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/?en
Both application I mentioned above are commercial products but trial versions are available as free download! There are hundreds of free application all over the web which will help you to personalize your PDA - just search Google and see what it comes up with!
Hope that helps?

Thanks. A couple quick questions. I can not tell if it is free or not. It has me agree to a bunch of legal stuff, but I do not see any mention of it being free/trial or what a charge would be? Do I do the CAB file?

JBA said:
Thanks. A couple quick questions. I can not tell if it is free or not. It has me agree to a bunch of legal stuff, but I do not see any mention of it being free/trial or what a charge would be? Do I do the CAB file?
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Its free, dont know if it will work on wm5 havent seen a version working yet on wm5. I suggest just reading the forum for the next two weeks or so. After about a good 20 you will nolonger be a noob. At that time I would suggest upgrading to wm6 and you will have no issues getting this on your phone.

Thanks again for the help on this. If there is not a high degree of knowing that will work on WM 5 does anyone of on that will work?

JBA said:
Thanks again for the help on this. If there is not a high degree of knowing that will work on WM 5 does anyone of on that will work?
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Did a quick google search...See this htchome wm5 thread (posted on prophet device but for wm5):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322439

JBA said:
Thanks. A couple quick questions. I can not tell if it is free or not. It has me agree to a bunch of legal stuff, but I do not see any mention of it being free/trial or what a charge would be? Do I do the CAB file?
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You can do the cab or the exe - what ever you prefer!
The cab file needs to be copied to the PPC, the setup you run directly on your desktop while your PPC is connected via ActiveSync or MDC.
Both programs I mentioned are running fine under Windows Mobile 5. I used them for more than a year on my T-Mobile MDA WM5 and later on my Hermes.

I'm a Newbie.. to my phone.

I can't seem to quite figure out my phone.. I mean I have never dealt with a phone this hard! I hope someone would kindly help cause I've browsed through soooo many threads on the forum and can't quite find the answers.
Qn 1) So I downloaded the Pocket CM.cab and have my htc today screen but I was trying to set up "Favorites" and all my contacts were gone other than my MyFaves contacts... Where did all my other contacts go (they are in my sim card previously). Is there a way I could transfer my contacts from my sim to the phone for something more permanent?
Qn 2) I understand there's a ROM thing to free up some space, I can't seem to find a guide that explains how this all work.. I downloaded a zip with all the .bat files in it and had ran the .cab file.. where do I run the .bats on? My comp or the phone?
Qn3) I know, I have many questions.. The weather Icon on my Today Screen, I can only find Arlington VA, is there any way I could get a more accurate weather forecast somewhere near my city?
Qn4) I had downloaded the Total Commander and hoping to tweak some of the stuff but could someone kindly direct me to a guide?
Okay that's all the questions I have... for now.. I HOPE!!!!!
I would greatly appreciate if someone would help.
Thanks!
Livie

Pinkerbelle said:
I can't seem to quite figure out my phone.. I mean I have never dealt with a phone this hard! I hope someone would kindly help cause I've browsed through soooo many threads on the forum and can't quite find the answers.
Qn 1) So I downloaded the Pocket CM.cab and have my htc today screen but I was trying to set up "Favorites" and all my contacts were gone other than my MyFaves contacts... Where did all my other contacts go (they are in my sim card previously). Is there a way I could transfer my contacts from my sim to the phone for something more permanent?
Qn 2) I understand there's a ROM thing to free up some space, I can't seem to find a guide that explains how this all work.. I downloaded a zip with all the .bat files in it and had ran the .cab file.. where do I run the .bats on? My comp or the phone?
Qn3) I know, I have many questions.. The weather Icon on my Today Screen, I can only find Arlington VA, is there any way I could get a more accurate weather forecast somewhere near my city?
Qn4) I had downloaded the Total Commander and hoping to tweak some of the stuff but could someone kindly direct me to a guide?
Okay that's all the questions I have... for now.. I HOPE!!!!!
I would greatly appreciate if someone would help.
Thanks!
Livie
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1. Most ROMs have SIM contacts hidden. It's a registry key. I'm at work right now so can't look it up for you, sorry.
2. A ROM with REFORMAT your phone and add a CUSTOM made firmware. Think of it as installing our version of windows over your windows. You will loose all your files that you do not back up. Flashing it can be tricky at first... There are a few walkthroughs around about it, though.
3. It depends on your version of HTCHome...
4. here

actually, i have to say my biggest question is what should i do to have my SIM card contacts transferred?

Pinkerbelle said:
actually, i have to say my biggest question is what should i do to have my SIM card contacts transferred?
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They're still there. They're just hidden. It's a registry edit.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Phone]
"ShowSIM"=dword:00000001 ->0 to disable, 1 to enable.

Quick questions

Hey guys, got a couple of questions quick so any help would be great =)
I know you can set people's contact card pics as their facebook profile pic, i've done this for everyone successfully, just wondering if there is any way to make it auto-update (i have unlim data plan), or a way to update everyone on one click, the only way i can update them now is to go to each individual, open their online albumn, then edit the contact card, and let the new pic download, surely there's a faster way?
Also when i'm viewing a conversation between me and another person (in text messages in HTC Sense), it takes forever to load, and i can't type a message till all of them have loaded, and there's a 160+ for each person so they all load pretty slowly, surely there's a work around so i can type whilst it loads?
Thanks in advance =)
Edit: oh there was another thing, if i browse someones facebook photos, can i set any photo as the contact card picture rather than just the profile picture?
Thanks again

Bump, anyone help please? :/

joncy92 said:
Hey guys, got a couple of questions quick so any help would be great =)
I know you can set people's contact card pics as their facebook profile pic, i've done this for everyone successfully, just wondering if there is any way to make it auto-update (i have unlim data plan), or a way to update everyone on one click, the only way i can update them now is to go to each individual, open their online albumn, then edit the contact card, and let the new pic download, surely there's a faster way?
Also when i'm viewing a conversation between me and another person (in text messages in HTC Sense), it takes forever to load, and i can't type a message till all of them have loaded, and there's a 160+ for each person so they all load pretty slowly, surely there's a work around so i can type whilst it loads?
Thanks in advance =)
Edit: oh there was another thing, if i browse someones facebook photos, can i set any photo as the contact card picture rather than just the profile picture?
Thanks again
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ansew to first question myne automatically updates, to the second question www.htc.com have a ROM update to prevent the sms issue

My HD2 came from T-mobile so i can't upgrade the rom can i? =[

joncy92 said:
My HD2 came from T-mobile so i can't upgrade the rom can i? =[
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im no expert myself, im a newbie. but from experience you go on to htc website choose hd2 and all the updates are there. mynes on t-mobile to cant see that being a problem.

lukohtchd2 said:
im no expert myself, im a newbie. but from experience you go on to htc website choose hd2 and all the updates are there. mynes on t-mobile to cant see that being a problem.
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you will be able to download updates, but youwon't be able to download roms from the htc website, it will give you an error when you input your serial.
read through the forum, there are numerous threads about updating rom when you are provider locked.

samsamuel said:
you will be able to download updates, but youwon't be able to download roms from the htc website, it will give you an error when you input your serial.
read through the forum, there are numerous threads about updating rom when you are provider locked.
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i have already upgraded the ROM, my phone wasnt directly from t-mobile weather that makes a difference i dont no.

lukohtchd2 said:
i have already upgraded the ROM, my phone wasnt directly from t-mobile weather that makes a difference i dont no.
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Ah, so if it is vendor unlocked then yes, you should be able to use the htc website. 1.66 i think is the latest.

samsamuel said:
Ah, so if it is vendor unlocked then yes, you should be able to use the htc website. 1.66 i think is the latest.
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1.66 is the one i downloaded

samsamuel said:
you will be able to download updates, but youwon't be able to download roms from the htc website, it will give you an error when you input your serial.
read through the forum, there are numerous threads about updating rom when you are provider locked.
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This forum or HTC's forum?

this forum. (in brief - install hspl will let you install any rom, go hunt and do some reading, then when you understand what you are doing, go for it. )

Ah right thanks a bunch, just one last thing
When I'm downloading updates from HTC's website, it says select location closest to you, should I select europe 1 or 2 (I'm in london)

Doesnt matter, thats just which server sends you the file.

Ah right thought it was to do with bands heh
Thanks a bunch

Sorry for double post, thought i'd ask here rather than make a new thread
Is it possible to enable more than 3 alarms? Any way to edit the reg or something?

Bump,
Also my HD2 keeps freezing now, it just slows right down for no reason, sometimes when it'd idle over night, after i've finished from a call, and sometimes out of the random, i keep having to soft-reset but now it's getting ridiculous
The only apps i've installed are:
MS Office
MS Win Live 10.6
TorchButton
Touch X Taskmngr
MS My Phone
Skype
.NET 3.5
markuz Saber
TomTom (also done bluetooth fix)
Bing
FpseCE
Youtube
G-Shotgun
ProdSon Diamond Hologram
MS Classic Blue
MS Rock and Republic black
MS DVF Green
KS Ron Arad orange
Hotfix LEO 7477
Gotfix LEO07268_625
Hotfix LEO07664
Facebook (1.1.0.14)
XaMaB Bubblewrap
Daniel Herrero Bandswitch
MS Marketplace
ANY help will be greatly appreciated

joncy92 said:
Sorry for double post, thought i'd ask here rather than make a new thread
Is it possible to enable more than 3 alarms? Any way to edit the reg or something?
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Only more than three alarms with 3rd party alarm software (cant recommend, i dont use more than three, sorry)
As for slowdown, first off disable the flip clock when you return to home page, (search for disable manila flip) secondly if wifi is on that can make it sluggish when you wake it from sleep as it reconnects.

Hey peeps, gna post here rather than create a new thread.
I'm thinking about installing a cooked rom, i'm pretty sick of this ****ty t-mobile rom.....phone freezes up constantly, slows down etc.
Will flashing a cooked rom complete wipe everything off the phone, texts, contacts, photos, music, apps etc etc?

T-Mo Upgraded WM6.5 Rom comes w/ Mobile Backup, Here's the cab!!

I have searched high and low for a cab file for this app. I got a T-Mobile software upgrade for my TP2. Cool, it was alright, nothing by comparison to NRG's ROM. I did however lose a few apps that were pretty cool: Co-Pilot,Visual Voicemail,etc.
The one that is of importance, though, is the Mobile Backup App. I have checked the threads on here and have ended up with nothing. I DO KNOW this file exists for this format of Windows Mobile. I tried to copy the correct files to my SD Card, but apparently am missing some and don't know what to look for anyway.
So, if somebody out there knows what's up with a cab or exe or files that I could extract from the stock rom, I would appreciate a little "heads up." Thanks in advance for any help.
EDIT: Thanks to SirPhunkee, we have a cab for any T-Mo users that is tested and works perfect on our TP2's. Here's his link to the cab
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=321223&d=1273035672

outerdepth said:
I have searched high and low for a cab file for this app. I got a T-Mobile software upgrade for my TP2. Cool, it was alright, nothing by comparison to NRG's ROM. I did however lose a few apps that were pretty cool: Co-Pilot,Visual Voicemail,etc.
The one that is of importance, though, is the Mobile Backup App. I have checked the threads on here and have ended up with nothing. I DO KNOW this file exists for this format of Windows Mobile. I tried to copy the correct files to my SD Card, but apparently am missing some and don't know what to look for anyway.
So, if somebody out there knows what's up with a cab or exe or files that I could extract from the stock rom, I would appreciate a little "heads up." Thanks in advance for any help.
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Did we already have you try this cab? I've handed it to a couple of people recently, can't remember if you were one of them
It's the tmo mobile backup that was extracted from the tmo HD2 ROM, and I think it works on the TP2...too Even if it's looking like it's running ok, make sure you test the sync in both directions (saving to their server and backing up from it) before you rely on it.
I still highly recommend myphone to accomplish the same tasks and more, but this is admittedly a lean solution, so definitely use whichever works best for you

THANK YOU!!
sirphunkee said:
Did we already have you try this cab? I've handed it to a couple of people recently, can't remember if you were one of them
It's the tmo mobile backup that was extracted from the tmo HD2 ROM, and I think it works on the TP2...too Even if it's looking like it's running ok, make sure you test the sync in both directions (saving to their server and backing up from it) before you rely on it.
I still highly recommend myphone to accomplish the same tasks and more, but this is admittedly a lean solution, so definitely use whichever works best for you
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Man, I gotta buy you a beer someday. That's great. I did not receive that from you recently, but thanks for posting it. It works well if I ever lose my phone or something happens to my pc whatever and I can't sync my original device with my contacts. NRG should cook this into his ROMs, uhum.

outerdepth said:
Man, I gotta buy you a beer someday. That's great. I did not receive that from you recently, but thanks for posting it. It works well if I ever lose my phone or something happens to my pc whatever and I can't sync my original device with my contacts. NRG should cook this into his ROMs, uhum.
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Oh you're quite welcome!
All I really did is pass along something I'd seen previously, but what matters is that it works for you, thanks for the feedback!

outerdepth said:
I have searched high and low for a cab file for this app. I got a T-Mobile software upgrade for my TP2. Cool, it was alright, nothing by comparison to NRG's ROM. I did however lose a few apps that were pretty cool: Co-Pilot,Visual Voicemail,etc.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=321223&d=1273035672
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Thank You Sir Phunkee... Too bad you could not have given this to me on the 2.5 sense cab thread... lol But having all these Carrier Specific .cabs would be nice there is a thread for the HD2... There you can get a lot of defaults.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653563
Anyway since this thread helped me here you go outerdepth, visual voicemail!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613855
I chose the visual voicemail from here because I believe this is the one I used.

Labarum said:
Thank You Sir Phunkee... Too bad you could not have given this to me on the 2.5 sense cab thread... lol But having all these Carrier Specific .cabs would be nice there is a thread for the HD2... There you can get a lot of defaults.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653563
Anyway since this thread helped me here you go outerdepth, visual voicemail!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613855
I chose the visual voicemail from here because I believe this is the one I used.
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Hi Labarum....sorry about that, what thread is it you're mentioning (the 2.5 sense cab thread)? I must have missed that opportunity, my apologies
Yes, that HD2 thread is where I found this copy, but I thought it was the same as WarlockW's posted cab (which didn't have as handy as this copy). I suspect that they're not different by phone model, but rather by WM version...but I'm just guessing there

Hi Labarum....sorry about that, what thread is it you're mentioning (the 2.5 sense cab thread)? I must have missed that opportunity, my apologies
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=661941
My fault really, as I had not got around to searching for that cab yet!
Searching the only downfall of XDA...

i'm having a problem with mine...
it says my device isnt supported...
help?

goodtilltomorrow said:
i'm having a problem with mine...
it says my device isnt supported...
help?
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You have to call T-Mobile and get them to set this app up on your "plan." What I mean is, it IS free to add to you payment plan, but you actually have to call customer care and get them to add it, but like I said it's FREE. Don't ask me why, but they just have it set up that way. I had the same problem, and it took like 10 minutes from dialing their number to having the software work. It's apparently a matter of account settings or something that they have to tweak.

Labarum said:
Thank You Sir Phunkee... Too bad you could not have given this to me on the 2.5 sense cab thread... lol But having all these Carrier Specific .cabs would be nice there is a thread for the HD2... There you can get a lot of defaults.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653563
Anyway since this thread helped me here you go outerdepth, visual voicemail!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613855
I chose the visual voicemail from here because I believe this is the one I used.
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Thanks bud. It's always nice to see people sharing.

Now WHAT??
I am running the new NRG ROM in my sig, but IT won't allow me to install mobile backup to this version. I haven't tried the newest ROM from the 13th, but I sense it is gonna have the same problem.
When I try to install the cab, it just says installation was not successful.Anyone else having this problem with the newer ROMs?

Update
Update
Have tried the newest 13th ROM from NRG and it does not let this sync with the server. It says that the device is not supported.

outerdepth said:
Update
Have tried the newest 13th ROM from NRG and it does not let this sync with the server. It says that the device is not supported.
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ok, this is just a wilda$$ guess...but isn't it desirable in some cases (like to correct MMS pic size issues) to have some agent ID in your registy other than what the phone actually is? Maybe possible that NRG bakes that in? Or, maybe it just only acceps a certain specific range of WM versions?

sirphunkee said:
ok, this is just a wilda$$ guess...but isn't it desirable in some cases (like to correct MMS pic size issues) to have some agent ID in your registy other than what the phone actually is? Maybe possible that NRG bakes that in? Or, maybe it just only acceps a certain specific range of WM versions?
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Ok, that's an idea, but what exactly could I do to change this? Plus, I am not sure what you mean about agentID. Just thought I would ask, cause I really hate not having this app.

outerdepth said:
Ok, that's an idea, but what exactly could I do to change this? Plus, I am not sure what you mean about agentID. Just thought I would ask, cause I really hate not having this app.
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It's a key somewhere in the registry that indicates what model of phone it is (independent of the IMEI), I believe it's used to identify it to the network for things like what size MMS files the phone can handle, etc...and I'm just surmising this becasue I recall that's where I saw the references to it. So, I would probably suggest looking in any threads related to MMS size issues, you'll probably see someone make a reference to a regedit or cab that makes that change, you can reverse-engineer the rest from there I guess.
I rarely go through any of the forum sections other than the rhodium boards and the Tmo HD2 section, so you can probably confine your search to those places if it helps. I'll keep my eyes open for it too.

Still no luck, sir phunkee. I am hoping that when I flash this newest NRG Rom, maybe I will have some luck, but to be honest, I am kinda tired of flashing his new ROM's cuz, they are "supposedly" faster or better, etc.
We will see, but hopefully someone will have a cab or link that could lead me somewhere.

Josh's Black http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=572938 came with Mobile Back Up, Visual Voicemail, Blockbuster, My Account, and the proper keyboard (after initial startup) cooked into the Rom... great for T-mo users like us... does not have the newer tabs, but I find I don't use those much anyway!
I installed the Full Version...
Now if I could just get rid of the transparent slide and make it stock again? (just for clarification... not slider or icons)

Many Thanks Guys! Been looking for this.
~M