So I'm running task manager and I have the following processes which I don't know the functionality for. Which one(s) can I kill without screwing up my x10?
Android Keyboard
Android System
Checkin Service
Com.android.providers.a..
Com.android.providers.u..
Com.sonyericsson.andro...
Com.sonyericsson.learni...
Contacts Storage
Dialer
Google Partner set up
Google Search
Google Search (Enhanced)
Home
Mediascape plug0in
My uploads
Picto TTs
Quick Search box
Service Account Provider
Setting Storage
SNS provider
Sync Feeds
Timescape plug-in Ma..
Timescape provider
nas7878 said:
So I'm running task manager and I have the following processes which I don't know the functionality for. Which one(s) can I kill without screwing up my x10?
Android Keyboard
Android System
Checkin Service
Com.android.providers.a..
Com.android.providers.u..
Com.sonyericsson.andro...
Com.sonyericsson.learni...
Contacts Storage
Dialer
Google Partner set up
Google Search
Google Search (Enhanced)
Home
Mediascape plug0in
My uploads
Picto TTs
Quick Search box
Service Account Provider
Setting Storage
SNS provider
Sync Feeds
Timescape plug-in Ma..
Timescape provider
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I'm 99.99% sure you shouldn't kill "Android System"!
You can just do Kill All for now to see if you can still do stuff you want. If anything goes wrong, only needs to reboot the phone.
I use Timescape widget and I listen to music, so I exclude anything to do with Mediascape, exclude Timescape, and Timescape Provider. I kill Timescape Plug-In though, since that's only for when you click on Timescape on the main screen.
i "think" you can kill all of them
from what i've noticed, they don't need to be running since they are called anyways when you want to eg. use a Dialer...
and when you're done, just kill them again
I'd suggest that you start killing the tasks one by one. Don't do it for android system though. But for the rest just start one by one. If something goes wrong just restart your phone and everything will be fine. But I would suggest that you keep things like timescape and mediascape running since you probably use them a lot. If you close them then it will just take more time for them next time to start up.
Task Panel works for me!
I kill almost everything specially Moxier!
In 4 hours without doing much and having killed ALL they like magically appear again! Thats when I long press specific apps and place them on KILL list.
Diamond777 said:
Task Panel works for me!
I kill almost everything specially Moxier!
In 4 hours without doing much and having killed ALL they like magically appear again! Thats when I long press specific apps and place them on KILL list.
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Do you know where I can download TaskPanel (and not the Lite version)?? I can't find it on the marketplace or on the net, I've been searching for nearly an hour and can't find the .apk file anywhere
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Do you know where I can download TaskPanel (and not the Lite version)?? I can't find it on the marketplace or on the net, I've been searching for nearly an hour and can't find the .apk file anywhere
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I got the Task Panel lite from Market, lite does the job!
I am a stock/non-rooted 95% happy EVO user (have a little light leak, but that's about all). However, I am getting frustrated trying to keep track of all the apps I have. Is there anything in the Marketplace that will let me organize my apps by such things as "Shopping", "Navigation", "Productivity", "Social Networking", etc? Thanks!
Search for "Apps Organizer" in the market. Been using this forever. Well before that other phone just added the option to group apps.
Hank
Just create folders and assign the apps where you want them.
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Apps organizer is the best. Organize them with that and then under shortcuts>apps organizer pick the category you want on the home screen. You can also export the list, then re import if you ever change phones or do a factory reset, which makes it better than plain folders. You can also star apps, so you can make it so you only see the apps you actually use, keeping the shortcut folders less cluttered.
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I use FolderOrganizer. It organizes all your Apps in fully customizable folders that open up in lil iframes. I jus checked out Apps Organizer n it seems they're pretty much the same though, so it's up to you.
Thanks, folks....I appreciate the feedback. I tried a couple of the highest rated ones and they are cool, but have one annoying thing that I can't get passed. They both have a folder/category called "Other apps" or some such that can't be deleted, even if it is empty.
Smart Shortcuts in another one just like Apps Organizer
I am sick of all the apps that I never use like peep, twit, facebook, footprints, friendstream, stocks, starting themselves like 2 seconds after I kill them. What is starting them and how can I get them to stop it ??? I do not mind them being in there, and actually have heard of problems deleting some, so if I can just keep them from starting ??? Grazi ;-)
I've deleted every single one of those and then some without issues. You have to root and then remove them. Trust me, the reward is well worth the steps involved. Once you're rooted you can download Startup Manager from the market to select which apps will startup automatically upon reboot. That won't help you control those other apps you mentioned running though. You need to remove them or disable them in adb.
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Just set all of those apps to never sync with whatever account they are tied to. Really a running application that isn't doing anything uses no resources.
But yes, if you root you can remove them.
After going through the run around to get my phone rooted so I can removed the bloatware that came pre-installed on it (and after all this trouble I will say that I will never get another phone with MotoBlur on it ever again) I realize that I am ignorant in what could be considered it and what I may think is but is vital to the system.
*before I list what I think is bloatware I will say that I have backed up EVERYTHING on my phone so if something was to go wrong, I can always restore -- I also have the option to freeze the application, but I want to free up space on my phone as well*
Items in bold are the ones I am sure about, items in red I'm pretty sure shouldn't be removed, all others I don't know.
Account and Sync Settings
Accounts
Accounts Storage
Admin Notifier
AdService
Alarm & Timer
[*]Android Keyboard
Android Live Wallpaper
AT&T Address Book
[*]AT&T FamilyMap
[*]AT&T Music
[*]AT&T Navigator
[*]AT&T Wi-Fi Hot Spots
AtCommandService
Battery Manager
[*]Bluetooth Share
[*]BluetoothDun
blur.res
Browser Plugin
BrowserMessage
[*]Calculator
Calendar
Camera
[*]Certificate Installer
[*]Checkin Service
[*]com.android.providers.applications
[*]com.google.android.syncadapters.contacts
[*]com.motorola.android.dm.plugin.im
[*]com.motorola.android.omadrm
[*]com.motorola.android.syncml.service
[*]com.motorola.android.wmdrm.dla
[*]com.motorola.atcmd.plugin
[*]com.motorola.atcmd.plugin.att
[*]com.motorola.phoneaddons
Compass Calibrator
[*]Contacts
[*]Contacts New Storage
[*]Contacts Sync
[*]ContactsData
[*]ContactsUnconnected
Cool Down Mode
[*]Data Manager
[*]Data Manager Service
[*]Date and Time
DMService
[*]Download Manager
DRM Protected Content Storage
Email
Email Engine
FMRadioService
FOTA
Gallery
Global Unplug
Gmail
Gmail Storage
Google Apps
Google Partner Setup
Google Search (Enhanced)
Google Search
Google Settings Provider
Google Talk Service
Google Talk Storage
Help Center
Home
HTML Viewer
[*]IM
[*]ImOfflineService
KODACK PERFECT TOUCH
Live Wallpaper Picker
LocationProxyDmPlugin
Magic Smoke Wallpapers
[*]Manage SIM Card
Maps
[*]Market
[*]Market Updater
Master Clear Error Reporter
Media audio Effects
MediaSync
Messages
Messaging
[*]Mobile Banking
[*]Mobile Video
[*]MobiTV
[*]MotoBlur Calendar Service
[*]MotoBlur Megamaid
[*]MotoBlur Services
[*]MOTOBLUR Social Sharing
[*]MotoBlur Storage Monitor
[*]MtlrDialog
Music
Music Visualization Wallpapers
My Uploads
Network Location
[*]News
OMA Client Provisioning
OMA Download
Package Installer
Phone Portal
Photo Workshop
Pico TTS
Policy Manager Service
Policy Manager Service (yes, it was listed twice)
Quick Contact
Quick Search Box
Quick Tutorial
Quickoffice
Rich Clipboard
[*]Settings Storage
[*]Setup Wizard
[*]SIM Toolkit
[*]Social Messaging
[*]Social Messaging Service
[*]Social Networking
[*]Social Status
Sound Recorder
Sticky Note
Street View
Sync Feeds
[*]Talk
[*]TalkBack
[*]Task Manager
[*]Terminal Emulator
Text Messaging
Toggle Widgets
TTS Service
Universal Inbox
[*]Updater
[*]Upgrader
[*]usb
Video Editor Lite
Video Player
[*]Vlingo Voice
Voice Dialer
Voice Search
VPN Services
[*]Weather
[*]WHERE
WmdrmPushReciever
Work Contacts
[*]YouTube
[*]YPmobile
First off let me be clear. ... i am not an expert. If i was i would not have a motoblur phone. I am just a chump who ended up with one. I am someone trying to make the best of what i have. Don't do what i say or you may break your phone. All i can say is what i have tried and kind of what happened. My shorthand below is
Rok means i removed it and nothing unexpected seemed to happen.
? Means i have not tried it and or i think it would be risky to remove.
N means i just don't think its ok to remove.
I go into a little more detail on some of them.
Bottom line is if it has blur in its name then removing it is taking your phones life in your own hands.
My son found a stock rom that i have reflashed my phone with after i broke it by removing wrong stuff. I don't have the same phone as you though. Hunt and find a stock rom so you can fix your flubs.
NOTE: use ti backups and freeze system apps. If its a mistake just unfreeze. Removing and restoring system apps may not work out like you think....take it from someone who found out the hard way. If after freezing a while all seems ok then think about removing.
n Account and Sync Settings
n Accounts
n Accounts Storage
n Admin Notifier
rok AdService
n Alarm & Timer
n Android Keyboard
rok Android Live Wallpaper
n AtCommandService
n Battery Manager
n Bluetooth Share
n BluetoothDun
n blur.res
n Browser Plugin
n BrowserMessage
rok Calculator
rok Calendar
not removed but should be ok Camera
n Certificate Installer
n Checkin Service
n com.android.providers.applications
n com.google.android.syncadapters.contacts
? Maybe com.motorola.android.dm.plugin.im
? com.motorola.android.omadrm
? com.motorola.android.syncml.service
? com.motorola.android.wmdrm.dla
? com.motorola.atcmd.plugin
? com.motorola.atcmd.plugin.att
? com.motorola.phoneaddons
rnok broke something. Cant remember what. Compass Calibrator
? Contacts
? Contacts New Storage
? Contacts Sync
? ContactsData
? ContactsUnconnected
? Cool Down Mode
? Data Manager
? Data Manager Service
n Date and Time
? Dont think so. DMService
? See above. Download Manager
? DRM Protected Content Storage
no. Breaks text msg. Email
see above. Email Engine
? Should be ok to remove. FMRadioService
? FOTA
not tried but should be ok. Gallery
n Global Unplug
rok Gmail
rok Gmail Storage
? Dont think so but untried. Google Apps
? See above. Google Partner Setup
? Untried because i use it. Google Search (Enhanced)
? See above. Google Search
unsure. Cant remember seeing this one. Google Settings Provider
do not remove. Breaks market and misc stuff seemingly unconnected. Google Talk Service
not ok Google Talk Storage
? Never tried. Wanted it. Help Center
dont remove. Install a replacement. I use adw launcher (may be awd launcher) first remove all icons and widgets) Home
? Dont know what its for yet. HTML Viewer
rok IM
rok ImOfflineService
not ok. It is used by pics and or camera. Makes them better. If dont use camera or pics then might be ok to remove. KODACK PERFECT TOUCH
broke something and caused fc. Live Wallpaper Picker
? LocationProxyDmPlugin
rok Magic Smoke Wallpapers
not tried. Use it. Manage SIM Card
rok but it is google maps. Maps
not tried. I use it. Market
see above. Market Updater
dont remember seeing this one. Master Clear Error Reporter
not tried. I use it. Media audio Effects
? MediaSync
i use it. Messages
i use it. Messaging
i dont have it. Bet its ok to go. Mobile Banking
? Been scared to try ha. Mobile Video
dont have it but bet its ok to go. MobiTV
? MotoBlur Calendar Service
? MotoBlur Megamaid
? MotoBlur Services
i froze it. Nothing seemed to break. MOTOBLUR Social Sharing
? MotoBlur Storage Monitor
dont remember it. MtlrDialog
i use it but bet its good to go. Music
dont remember this one. Music Visualization Wallpapers
? My Uploads
? Think you need it. Network Location
rok News
? OMA Client Provisioning
? OMA Download
need it. Package Installer
prob want to keep. Phone Portal
prob want to keep but prob ok to go. Photo Workshop
? Think its used by voice to text but unsure. Pico TTS
keep. Policy Manager Service
pretty sure you want. Quick Contact
i use. Quick Search Box
rok Quick Tutorial
rok but handy until you find something better. Quickoffice
untried. I use it. Rich Clipboard
? Settings Storage
prob want to keep. Setup Wizard
i use. SIM Toolkit
rok Social Messaging
rok Social Messaging Service
rok Social Networking
rok Social Status
prob want but prob ok to go. Sound Recorder
dont remember this. Sticky Note
used by maps. If you delete maps you may as well delete this. Street View
? Sync Feeds
not ok. Breaks misc stuff. Talk
? Figure it goes with talk so untried. TalkBack
? Cant remember. Task Manager
i never tried to remove because i use it. Better keep it. Very small and you may need it. Terminal Emulator
i use it. Text Messaging
i use it. Could go but bet you use it. Toggle Widgets
text to speech. Best keep. TTS Service
untried but think it would break texting. Universal Inbox
? Updater
? Upgrader
keep. usb
? Plan to try remove soon. Video Editor Lite
? See above. Video Player
dont remember. Vlingo Voice
i tried it but think it caused probs but not for sure. Ive been told it can go. Voice Dialer
same issue as above. Voice Search
untried. Guess it could go if no plans to use. Think it may break unexpected stuff. VPN Services
rok Weather
dont remember. WHERE
untried but bet you want it. WmdrmPushReciever
? Work Contacts
rok YouTube
dont remember. YPmobile
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If you get Titanium Backup you can 'freeze' any app that you are thinking about removing and try the phone out. A lot easier than fixing it if you remove one you need.
Edit: Sorry - i see that TB has already been mentioned.
Experiments after Froyo
I have the Motorola Flipside, and I actually like the phone (which I selected based on wanting a full hardware keyboard), but the MAJOR flaw is the VERY limited internal phone storage. If it wasn't for that flaw, I would have little interest in replacing the phone. As it is, I have struggled with keeping the phone useful for about a year and a half, but plan to replace it very soon. I actually even like SOME of the MotoBlur features, especially the way it consolidates all of my contacts, but I really only use it for that.
I updated to Froyo during Motorola's smoke testing. The update was welcome, but AT&T and Motorola both loaded EVEN MORE bloat which just exacerbated the space issue. So I have my own list of stuff that I have deleted, which includes the social MotoBlur stuff but keeps the account management and contact sync features.
I'll try to get back here within the next couple of days to list out exactly how I've got things configured. Many of the apps have been changed, consolidated, or dropped, so I'll provide a complete list based on the 2.2.2 update.
... squirrel
i can say u need the home one. if you delete it your home page dissapears and its a pita to get back.
If youre rooted, try link2sd to save the limited spaced on the phone. I used it while I had this phone and never got memory full with over 60 apps.
link2sd and mb508
Yes, link2sd is great, I use and recommend it.
However, it is NOT sufficient to deal with the insanely limited space on the FlipSide. If you do a factory reset with the latest ROM (2.2.2), you will end up with something like 12MB of space. These days there are about 7 updates to the core applications, and you do not have enough space to load the updates.
To make space, you have to use the Link2SD feature of "convert system app to user app" so that it can be linked. But 12MB is not enough space for link2sd to convert any apps.
So load up Titanium backup, too, and delete some AT&T bloatware, then start converting system apps and linking them. This will be enough space for most people. My biggest problem is that I have about 1,500 contacts (I am an activist involved in politics). They take up about 40 MB of data space, and data cannot be linked to SD (really BAD design, IMHO). The only way I am able to make this phone useful is to remove about 90% of my contacts AND do the delete bloatware + link2sd stuff. The phone is functional at that point, but of course much less useful since I have to keep my contact list off-line. Even though I've got my most frequent contacts loaded, I often get phone calls or texts and don't even know who it is.
squ1rr3l said:
Yes, link2sd is great, I use and recommend it.
However, it is NOT sufficient to deal with the insanely limited space on the FlipSide. If you do a factory reset with the latest ROM (2.2.2), you will end up with something like 12MB of space. These days there are about 7 updates to the core applications, and you do not have enough space to load the updates.
To make space, you have to use the Link2SD feature of "convert system app to user app" so that it can be linked. But 12MB is not enough space for link2sd to convert any apps.
So load up Titanium backup, too, and delete some AT&T bloatware, then start converting system apps and linking them. This will be enough space for most people. My biggest problem is that I have about 1,500 contacts (I am an activist involved in politics). They take up about 40 MB of data space, and data cannot be linked to SD (really BAD design, IMHO). The only way I am able to make this phone useful is to remove about 90% of my contacts AND do the delete bloatware + link2sd stuff. The phone is functional at that point, but of course much less useful since I have to keep my contact list off-line. Even though I've got my most frequent contacts loaded, I often get phone calls or texts and don't even know who it is.
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Just install cm7, you have lots of free space and no bloatware to remove! Plus its gingerbread so it gives better battery life. I use it and combined with link2sd, it makes this phone half usable
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supernewbdev said:
Just install cm7, you have lots of free space and no bloatware to remove! Plus its gingerbread so it gives better battery life. I use it and combined with link2sd, it makes this phone half usable
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There is no cm7 available for the FlipSide (MB508).
squ1rr3l said:
There is no cm7 available for the FlipSide (MB508).
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Yes there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517880
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supernewbdev said:
Yes there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517880
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Doesn't always work. Mine will not give me the recovery access needed to install cm7 so that's not always an option. Plus most people want a fully functioning phone and not being able to use 3g and receive phone calls without rebooting or freezing is not, in my eyes anyway, fully functioning.
supernewbdev said:
Yes there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517880
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The link actually says it's for the Sage. One of the guys trying it says:
my findings are... the accelerometer does not work... meaning the screen doesn't change orientation when you turn the phone...
and
the telephone dials out... or rings when called... however... when it attempts to connect... it reboots the phone...
and
the camera is still broken
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That seems worse.
Are you using it on the FlipSide?
squ1rr3l said:
The link actually says it's for the Sage. One of the guys trying it says:
That seems worse.
Are you using it on the FlipSide?
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Sage is the developer name for the flipside, like motus is the backflip, olympus is atrix etc. That is correct. But I agree. If most important things aren't working, is there any point in having cm7?
In this same forum as this, the general flipside section, there is a newbie install guide. Use it...
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That seems worse.
Are you using it on the FlipSide?
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Camera seems to work fine for me, the rebooting on call is an issue where you need to force 2G as it has problems with US 3G bands. I don't recall problems with the accelerometer, but to be honest I only use landscape with the keyboard open, which triggers the rotation just fine.
I've moved on to a Captivate Glide now, but I still have the Flipside running CM7 around for a backup and VoIP phone, I can dig it out and toy with it later to check the sensor for sure.
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Just checked, opened a browser and rotation via sensor worked perfectly. If you set ADW Launcher to persist in memory, it won't have the option to rotate based on sensor, so it's possible he thought the sensor wasn't working. I have no idea why, I assume it's a bug, but it's that way on any ADW afaik.
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My biggest problem is that I have about 1,500 contacts (I am an activist involved in politics). They take up about 40 MB of data space, and data cannot be linked to SD (really BAD design, IMHO).
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The massive contact list is why you have so little free space initially, I'd assume... A fresh flash of the latest .sbf had something like 60 MB free, iirc. It might actually be possible to manually symlink your contact database to the sd card, I've not tried it personally but a quick google seems to imply it's possible. Since you've got link2sd set up, it should be fairly straightforward.
cm7 flipside
the only bug I have noticed is the data connection being cancelled on call, everything else works for me on the flipside
So ill go into my system panel and kill all apps. Ill have about 160mb of memory free. Then the launcher obviously restarts and system panel and my widgets all start back up, but what i dint hnderstand is why do thi gs like google voice or the music player start up in the background if i havent even used them? They start up almost instantly....
How can i make sure **** stays off?
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Start up manager or similar from the market. Take care though, if you block something that system wants to be launched, it may keep attempting to launch it, leading to high battery consumption
Some app include a service, which they are executed in background. If the service is maually stopped, android can launch it again.
There are many application on the market which stop periodically these app. The point is that if it has a service, there is a reason, and by stopping it, you can obtain a strange comportment.
By example, in the first version of Android, gtalk was used for the authentification on android market, it is very strange but it was like that. The user was not informed of this link which was a kind of transparent. So if you stopped gtalk, you were not able to go on the market.
Do you need a lot of RAM? If yes uninstall the application you don t use, but I advise you to not stop mannually or automatically the application on your phone.
I guess thats how android functions as such. I tried stopping these programs so many times using apps from the market, but it starts again n few minutes. So its like we are wasting our time trying to kill apps.
Autostarts and/or Android Optimizer will stop any unwanted apps from running constantly. Works for me but just make sure you know what you are doing so you don't stop something you need (as described above)..