[Q] hello all! - Android Software Development

I have spent a little bit of time checking out the site and I have used the info to succesfully put Android on my HTC Touch, that is inactive but fun to play with. I currently use a US Cellular Samsung Calliber. I am still learning about these software/firmware hacks and I was wondering... would it ever be possible to put some version of the Android software on my Calliber?
Thank you!
HackYourPhone

forget it. you can only run android on top on windows mobile. there is no way you can just go "can i run it on my device?" and expect the answer to be anything but a no. reasons? simple, lack of framework to start with

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What to buy (Tattoo or...)

Hi,
I need some help finding out which phone to buy. We are a family of three and need one each. It will primarily be used to access google calendar (multiple calendars), Gmail, Google maps (with GPS) and browsing. Is a Taatoo not good enough for this? We have been offered three cheap used devices, but I do not know if we should buy a newer/bigger android phone instead.
What do you think - is Tattoo sufficient?
Thanks,
jakoande said:
Hi,
I need some help finding out which phone to buy. We are a family of three and need one each. It will primarily be used to access google calendar (multiple calendars), Gmail, Google maps (with GPS) and browsing. Is a Taatoo not good enough for this? We have been offered three cheap used devices, but I do not know if we should buy a newer/bigger android phone instead.
What do you think - is Tattoo sufficient?
Thanks,
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Well, if you are not into the stuff of OS upgrades and so on, then Android 1.6 (Tattoo's OS) pretty much does the stuff you primarily want to do...but if you also want bluetooth file transfer you should look forward to get a device for which an android 2.1 OS is available..
Thanks,
btw - is there a android 1.6 emulator somewhere so I can see what it can do?
And last question - if we buy a tattoo can we upgrade to a newer version of android (i know about the 2.1 update not being avalible - but is there a 1.9-2.0 upgrade?). I can see you use a bootimage - can that be downloaded somewhere?
Thanks,
(and sorry for the studpid questions)
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers
Back to topic:
About emulators - you can download Android SDK 1.6, which features an emulator you can configure and play around with freely if you want...sorry, have no tutorial, but it's pretty much straight forward...
Unfortunately it's not as simple as thought - since the Android OS has to communicate correctly with all the hardware in the phone the device drivers and configurations are the main problem when trying to provide new OS versions such as 2.1 or 2.2...
The bootimage is only suitable if you want root priviledges on your phone all the time, but here it is (I assume you know what has to be done with it, if not: read the how tos...they are excellent...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5792750&postcount=38

[Q] Desktop Manager

All,
First of all let me say how much I have enjoyed this site and learning more about the Android OS. I have been a user of an Eris for about a year but really never liked it. The phone was slow, buggy and just gave me all sorts of problems. After some searching and finding this site I have actually started to love my phone. A lot of the things that I had to do in order to get it rooted and things installed made me realize that there needs to be some sort of desktop application that can manage an Android phone.
I have been developing desktop software for a long time and have started a small project that I'm hoping people will be interested in. If you were to use a desktop software capable of managing your Android phone, what would you want?
The application is definitely going to be open source as there is no question about that. Currently, I have all the functions that ADB provides and are looking for other things that I can include. Any help is appreciated.
Jason
Jason, check out AndroidCommander.
I have been using that and LOVE it, perhaps you two can work together.
Thanks for the info. I guess I should have done a little more research because that is pretty much everything in mine. LOL.

Eclipse + Android SDK + JDNI/LDAP Access

Hi All,
For sometime I have been looking for a suitable Active Directory Management tool on a mobile device, however have never found anything which quite cuts the mustard. For this reason I have decided to give it a bash myself. I am the proud owner of a lovely shiny new Desire and it feels like it's just crying out for an app of this nature.
Just hoping I might be able to discuss a matter which requires some expertise. I have the latest versions of the Eclipse IDE for Java Developers and the SDK installed, so far I'm having much success with my first GUI builds after following a cracking tutorial Although I can handle the GUI elements (which I normally hate), I'm struggling to forge my first LDAP connection.
I have found info about the "Java Naming and Directory Interface" for java (*however no download) and just wondering if anyone else has had any success using it to code an Android app? I'm not digging for too much info for the moment, just trying to get some assurance that what I am trying to achieve is actually possible.
Not everyone's cup of tea, I know.. But decided it'd be worth asking.
Much Love,
Futurian

Stuck getting started - be gentle!

Hi all,
I am interested in having a dabble in developing some simple pieces of software for Android phones, mainly for myself, but who knows?!
I have some experience in VB6 writing software so I was hoping to be able to get started quite easily... That seems not to be the case!
I have got stuck at what seems to be the first hurdle. I have installed the SDK Manager and it has downloaded, amongst other things, what I thought was the design package, but I have gone through the folders it has created and cannot find anything really. I was expecting some kind of development software to build the app but I must be missing something!
Are there any good, basic and simple tutorials on how to get setup? I'm sure once I get started i'll be OK!
I run Windows XP and will be developing mainly apps to be used on my Desire HD although would prefer it anything I did was compatible with other Andriod phones.
Thanks in advance.
Sounds like you don't have an IDE. Most android developers use Eclipse. Start here:
http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
Then follow the quick start guide here:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
Spot on Gene, hadnt installed Eclipse, got it running now, followed a Hello World demo on Youtube and managed to get it to work on the emulator, im getting there!
Couple of questions more if I may?
- Is there not a design view, ie, object view so that I can place bits where I want them (buttons, text, etc...) I cant find wher eto chagne from design view to code view? Does that exist?
- How do I 'package' my newly designed app and send it to my phone to test it?
Many thanks again
I am new as well I was wondering what youtube video you were watching?
It was this one, this worked for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COEhiTT1KLk&list=ULc2oQVGNKilQ&playnext=2
I've also been looking at starting some Android dev, having done some Windows Mobile dev with C#.
I've read the installing the SDK guide and it says that the ADT plugin doesn't work with Eclipse 3.6 and you have to use Eclipse 3.5, is this still the case or can I use 3.6?

[Q] Can HD2 run Android Apps(on WM 6.5)

Hello Friends,
I have a question for all of the mobile developers. You might think I'm Joking. But its Serious. Is there any way to run android apps(2.1-2.3) in HTC HD2(Leo) which is running Windows Mobile? Many People Say 'NO'. But emulation of any OS is possible. We all thought that we can run PS2 games only on Sony Playstation 2 but we were proved wrong by PCSX2 by launching first PS2 Emulator. So I want to know is there any emulator by which I can run android apps on my HTC HD2? Its difficult but I think XDA Developers can make this type of emulators. It will also help thousands of people. I am an IT Professional and a software developer(Windows) but i don't know about developing apps for mobile. Otherwise would have made/wrote android apps in WM language/scripts. Some News also came that there are certain Converters which can convert Android Apps into J2ME or WM apps. I need a solution to this problem.
Regards,
Arun
Themegastar1 CEO
I believe there was originally an Android emulator running on WM, but it was slooooooooow!!! There's a whole slew of reasons as to why an Android emulator won't run well on WM, memory being the obvious main one. That's why Android ports were developed to run off the SD card, first dumping Windows from the memory and then running Linux.
Depending on your development experience, you may want to look into programming for Android anyway, if that's where your interest lies. If you've done anything like C# (or other .Net based language like VB.Net) then it's not that big a leap. If you've already done Java development then it's really not a problem - you just need to learn the Android SDK.
If you are intersted, have a look at the following tutorial...
http://www.vogella.de/articles/Android/article.html
It's a great starting point for Android development. It walks you through setting up the dev environment and then a few simple apps to get you going. Any OO experience you have will definitely help. (It may actually prove difficult without it - I can't say for sure.)
Hope this helps
themegastar1 said:
Hello Friends,
I have a question for all of the mobile developers. You might think I'm Joking. But its Serious. Is there any way to run android apps(2.1-2.3) in HTC HD2(Leo) which is running Windows Mobile? Many People Say 'NO'. But emulation of any OS is possible. We all thought that we can run PS2 games only on Sony Playstation 2 but we were proved wrong by PCSX2 by launching first PS2 Emulator. So I want to know is there any emulator by which I can run android apps on my HTC HD2? Its difficult but I think XDA Developers can make this type of emulators. It will also help thousands of people. I am an IT Professional and a software developer(Windows) but i don't know about developing apps for mobile. Otherwise would have made/wrote android apps in WM language/scripts. Some News also came that there are certain Converters which can convert Android Apps into J2ME or WM apps. I need a solution to this problem.
Regards,
Arun
Themegastar1 CEO
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I just did a search on your question. And from all the sites i've seen they all come up with the same answer: "no"
The two systems are too far apart from each other to be able to 'port' or emulate it apparently.
At least, this is what i found. Maybe some others might have more luck.
Problem still Not Resolved.
I read both of Your Comments, but still problem is not resolved. johncmolyneux you have told me that there is an emulator(Slow ones), can u tell me the name of that emulator? And I don't want to install android. I have given thanks to you both, but still My problem is not resolved. I need a way to run android apps on wm 6.5.
themegastar1 said:
I read both of Your Comments, but still problem is not resolved. johncmolyneux you have told me that there is an emulator(Slow ones), can u tell me the name of that emulator? And I don't want to install android. I have given thanks to you both, but still My problem is not resolved. I need a way to run android apps on wm 6.5.
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It was about 8-9 months ago so no, I'm afraid don't know the name, but it was on xda so you can search the forum for it.
Let me put it clearly though. The emulator was so slow that it was immediately dropped and no-one ever used it. It's basically Windows, running a Linux emulator, running Android. It was terrible and unusable.
Why is it imperative that you run Android apps on WM? If you explain then maybe we can understand more and hopefully offer more constructive help.
Why I want to run Android Apps on WM.
The Reason for this is- I need Google Goggles for my HD2 and some other apps too. But Windows Mobile Technology is Better, Easy to Use and Expensive. And HTC offers HTC Sense along with HD2 which makes it more easy to use and attractive too. These all things are not possible by using Android. But Android has a big App Marketplace. This is the reason why I want to run android apps in WM.
Okay, I'll make it very clear then. You will not get this. The only solutions available are to find a version of google goggles on WM (not likely), or to run Android on your phone.
You can run it from the SD card, but it does mean a restart every time you want to switch from WM to Android and then back again.
Also, there are many Android builds available that include HTC Sense. There's some very nice Desire HD builds out there.
Sorry to give bad news, but you are not going to get what you're asking for.
OK! Necessity leads to invention!
Ya, but still, IF I make something then the problem will be resolved. I'm thinking to make Android Emulator in this Summer(May-June 2011). If I made it, then it will be good for all WM users, so nobody will switch to Android to get all apps. Anyway, johncmolyneux thanks for your efforts. By the way, Which Phone you are using. And with which OS(WM/Android/Bada/Ubuntu/S40/S60/Symbian 3rd Edition or any other) you are using? Necessity leads to invention!
Regards
Arun Wadhwa
Themegastar1 Owner
Please give me THANKS!!!!!
Well good luck with that mate - I think you'll need it
I'm using a Nexus One Gingerbread ROM at the minute. It's fast and stable - everything works just like a native Android device!
You do realize that you can boot into Android from Windows mobile on your hd2. That way you have winmo still on your phone, and when you need to use Android, you can use haret.exe to boot into an Android build running from the SD card. You have to restart the phone to get back into Windows mobile, but that only takes a minute or 2. And it only takes a minute to boot into Android. This way you can run both OS's on your hd2.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
themegastar1 said:
Ya, but still, IF I make something then the problem will be resolved. I'm thinking to make Android Emulator in this Summer(May-June 2011). If I made it, then it will be good for all WM users, so nobody will switch to Android to get all apps.
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Excelent example of high achievment goal.
So what you need?
Remapping all Android API to WM API with necessary additional functionality, so running whole Android emulator will be not necessary. This will save memory and gain some speed.
Similar to already known solutions on Linux platform which can run Windows applications on several platforms like winehq.org.
How much effort will be necessary?
Depends on which applications area that has to be covered.
Depends on knowledges about both operating systems.
Depends on accessibility to source code of the system and the applications which supposed to run with this framework.
Is summer vacations enough?
Future will reveal, but if you really are genius, please turn to good side
So this project will be definitely something which people will pay for, those who has WM favorites programs and are not willing to change the whole system to run some new.
Anyway aplications will be maybe running, but most of them will miss the stability and advantages of the Android operating system.
pedroxxx said:
Excelent example of high achievment goal.
So what you need?
Remapping all Android API to WM API with necessary additional functionality, so running whole Android emulator will be not necessary. This will save memory and gain some speed.
Similar to already known solutions on Linux platform which can run Windows applications on several platforms like winehq.org.
How much effort will be necessary?
Depends on which applications area that has to be covered.
Depends on knowledges about both operating systems.
Depends on accessibility to source code of the system and the applications which supposed to run with this framework.
Is summer vacations enough?
Future will reveal, but if you really are genius, please turn to good side
So this project will be definitely something which people will pay for, those who has WM favorites programs and are not willing to change the whole system to run some new.
Anyway aplications will be maybe running, but most of them will miss the stability and advantages of the Android operating system.
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I think I got some of the Ideas, I have to Create a platform build on Windows Mobile with the help of WM API, it will require Android SDK too. If I will create an app that has the compatibility of Android, I could name it as Emulator. Means just another platform running on a OS.
i would donate for this...
work hard guys..gudluck!

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