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My six-month old Cingular 8525 now has the loose stylus problem so I phoned AT&T for a replacement. (I know this sounds kind of anal but I also know a lot of perple who hang out on xda-developers are particular about their devices...)
To make a long story short, the refurb looks like crap! The black stripe between the screen and keyboard has scrapes on it, the seam between the back grey plastic casing and the black stripe has obvious screwdriver damage where the casing has been pried apart, and the back side of the screen has lots of scrapes from sliding open and closed.
The only good things I can say about the refurb are the LCD overlay looks new and it is AT&T branded. I have not even bothered to install a battery and turn it on.
The phone I take such good care of looks worlds better than this one. I took it to my local store and they agree with me and have noted the account so when I call the warranty department they will hopefully send me a better one (why not just send a new one and get it over with )
Is my experience typical? When I was with Sprint I remember getting a couple of refurbs and they looked brand-new.
EDIT: My local AT&T store has been great to work with, making calls to the warranty department, etc. but have not offered to replace the phone (yet?)
No your experience is NOT typical.. I have a Refurb 8525 and it looks BRAND new.. nothing at all is wrong with it.. what you CAN do is call them and tell them something is wrong with the one they sent you and they will send you another one.
Madcap180 said:
No your experience is NOT typical.. I have a Refurb 8525 and it looks BRAND new.. nothing at all is wrong with it.. what you CAN do is call them and tell them something is wrong with the one they sent you and they will send you another one.
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Yes and if memory serves me right, there are standards in the official HTC Service Manual for refurb devices. I seem to remember reading very precise criteria on what is acceeptable in terms of blemishes and what is not.
The service manual is available for download at my web link below.
Mike
I have gotten my 8125 replace last year and it look brand new. I just recently got my 8525 replace and it also looked new too.
I returned my 3 month old Cingular 8525 because the Micro SD card slot wouldn't work anymore (physically not holding the cards in). I received what appeared to be a brand new AT&T branded 8525, no problems with it. It even had the new ROM flashed to it, which had only been officially released for a week or two at that point.
No problems with my refurb either - looks and responds like brand new.
I wouldn't say it was intentional they shipped out a very much used machine - but I would definitely question their QC that one that badly used slipped back into the consumer base. Contact a manager and if no help, keep climbing the ladder until you reach someone who WILL help.
Good luck!
A local store manager looked at the phone and noted the account. I called the warranty folks again and after being transferred several times they are sending me a new phone, which I should get tomorrow. I wonder what OS will be on it?
EDIT: I just booted a brand-new 8525 and it came with WM5 and the 1.40 radio. Time to flash away...
i sent of my phone with a keyboard that was sticking
due to me dropping marmalade onto it
anyway i told them, that the keyboard din't work, i was having problems with call quality, and there was cosmetic damage
t-mobile agreed to fix the keyboard for me, and that only
so i sent it off
an 2weeks later
it came back,
with a new screen, new mainboard, new case, new stylus, new batter, new battery cover
everything on it is new
so much so, then have sent me a certificate to confirm that my IMEI number has changed due to the ammount of work done on the phone
at the time of sending it off, it had a hungarian windows mobile 5 rom on it, as i couldnt find a english version at the time of downgrading
so t-mobile, reflashed it for me
so if anyone is with them, i would recommend if you have any problems
phone up
and tell them you want it fixing, and don't lie to them, just bend the truth a little, and maybe you will get as lucky as me
plus i was also told, all MDA vario's from t-mobile have a 24month warranty with t-mobile
=D
aye they did a similar thing with me. before i got into xda-devs i had some righ5t probs with me hermes.
well i took the first one back and then they replased that. cant remember the fault mind. that one went wrong so they replaced that and then this next one went wrong again! called them up complaining and apparently if they repair a phone 3 times you can ask for a totally different phone to replace it. asked how much the kaiser would be and they said 30 quid and could be with you tomorrow. i was a very happy man and now i got a hermes and a kaiser!
they never asked for the hermes back either so always a bonus eh.
so any you guys got any probs out there even if its tiny get on the phone to t-mobile. could soon have a kaiser for 30 quid!
I work for T-Mobile and it's HTC policy to replace rather than repair a faulty unit under warranty.
As long as the engineer who looks at it doesn't determine it as damaged they always send out a refurbished unit.
sweet
so new fone
an hmm, yh i think the screen is going a bit unsensative on this one
*wink*
lol kasier for £30 ull be my new years gift
haha
Has anybody had experience removing a screen scratch from their hd2?
i've only had mine for 5 days and its got a massive scratch on the screen, don't even know how it happened, i always keep my phones in a glasses baggy, my iphone is still mint after 18 months but today i was watching some youtube clips on my break and the screen was perfect, then put it on charge at work and when i came back to it it was really badly scratched, not sure if someone decided to have a look at it and dropped it while i wasn't there but needless to say i'm gutted, i was thinking of sending it back to o2 coz it has a few problems, random letters on typing and stuck messages, not sure if they'll accept it back even as faulty with this big scratch, any advice as to what o2 do with faulty phones? do they check them, bin them or fix them? it was bought over the phone btw, will they just write it off and send a new one because of the problems?
please help
I think you will struggle to get it replaced under warranty with a fat scratch, even if it didn't work at all, let alone a few issues that are (apparently) solved by updates.
Do you have any cctv at work? I'd be spitting mad and hunting for the culprit!
there is cctv but not in my department, and lots of people come in and out,
worst case scenario if o2 won't accept it back as faulty they'll just send it back as it is,
and if i'm lucky i'll get a replacement?
just been giving the screen a rub with some t cut and it seems to be helping with most of the scratch, there is just a 5 mm part that is deeper than the rest, do you think that would affect an exchange?
Maybe, you`ve got nothing to lose.....
Gotta be worth a try. Chances are they're only going to flash a new rom and ship it back anyway. Course, if you have insurance it COULD go missing....
insurance is what my work mate said, any recomendations for someone cheap but with full cover?
Just for the record, the random letters on typing and stuck messages thing probably won't be enough to get you a new device. These flaws are all over the place. HTC will tell you the 1.66 rom will solve those problems. And the 'not quite aligned screen' is also a thing that pops up here on a regular basis.
Hope you succeed.
Hello guys, sorry for hijacking this thread, but I have a very similar problem except without the scratched screen. The details are over here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627374
Basically, I sent it to HTC and it came back much worse than it was when I sent it to them. What can I do now? Send it back to HTC again or would O2 be better? Is there a way I can get a new phone?
Thx.
If you return it to O2, they'll courier out a new one and pick the "faulty" one up at the same time, so you would get a new phone straight away - they did this with my first HD2 which didn't recognise SIM cards.
What they do with the "faulty" one once it's couriered back is anyone's guess. You could be lucky and it just goes in a big faulty pile to be sent back to HTC. I would deny that it was scratched if they phone you up about it, but that's quite naughty.
Awesome, thanks elyl .
My phone isn't scratched in the first place. Hope it works out for the original poster too.
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If you return it to O2, they'll courier out a new one and pick the "faulty" one up at the same time, so you would get a new phone straight away - they did this with my first HD2 which didn't recognise SIM cards.
What they do with the "faulty" one once it's couriered back is anyone's guess. You could be lucky and it just goes in a big faulty pile to be sent back to HTC. I would deny that it was scratched if they phone you up about it, but that's quite naughty.
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what department at o2 did you use to get a courier exchange , what did you ask for and what problem did your phone have so that they exchanged it, cheers
sometimes the couriers themselves check out the goods if you are returning faulty handsets that have supposedly have no physical damage. ive had this happen to me a few times with my business units.
i would send it back to O2 anyway... if you have only had the handset for five days, explain that the screen is not "perfect". Its all about how you word it on the return form. Put down your other issues also.
This way when the courier turns up with your new handset and checks the goods and the return form (IF he has one) he will have no choice but to oblige.
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Has anybody had experience removing a screen scratch from their hd2?
i've only had mine for 5 days and its got a massive scratch on the screen, don't even know how it happened, i always keep my phones in a glasses baggy, my iphone is still mint after 18 months but today i was watching some youtube clips on my break and the screen was perfect, then put it on charge at work and when i came back to it it was really badly scratched, not sure if someone decided to have a look at it and dropped it while i wasn't there but needless to say i'm gutted, i was thinking of sending it back to o2 coz it has a few problems, random letters on typing and stuck messages, not sure if they'll accept it back even as faulty with this big scratch, any advice as to what o2 do with faulty phones? do they check them, bin them or fix them? it was bought over the phone btw, will they just write it off and send a new one because of the problems?
please help
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Before I divulge this story I don't endorse this sort of thing.
My mate got the HD2 on an upgrade through O2, he sat on it within 24hrs and got a smudge on the screen, called them up and claimed there was a fault with the screen; which they then sent a brand new replacement. This promptly arrived and then by shear idiocy he managed to put it the through the washing machine the next day!
The device turns on but the back light has shorted, so you can see the GUI but only under strong light and it is basically unreadable. He will get insurance via O2 then claim next month saying he lost it. However the insurance does cost 10 pound a month; but still cheaper than 500...
azahoth said:
Before I divulge this story I don't endorse this sort of thing.
My mate got the HD2 on an upgrade through O2, he sat on it within 24hrs and got a smudge on the screen, called them up and claimed there was a fault with the screen; which they then sent a brand new replacement. This promptly arrived and then by shear idiocy he managed to put it the through the washing machine the next day!
The device turns on but the back light has shorted, so you can see the GUI but only under strong light and it is basically unreadable. He will get insurance via O2 then claim next month saying he lost it. However the insurance does cost 10 pound a month; but still cheaper than 500...
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hmmmmm....
shady
but lol
Am I the only one who finds the people who break their phones and then try to weasel their way into a new, free handset annoying as hell?
My local HTC center used to offer courier exhanges for all HTC products, but not anymore. I called 'em up the other day to get my phone exchanged and they told me they no longer do it because people were abusing the service.
novaci said:
Am I the only one who finds the people who break their phones and then try to weasel their way into a new, free handset annoying as hell?
My local HTC center used to offer courier exhanges for all HTC products, but not anymore. I called 'em up the other day to get my phone exchanged and they told me they no longer do it because people were abusing the service.
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no... you are not the only one who finds unscrupulous antics extremely irritating.
however,... some of the stories i hear are so ridiculous that all you can do is laugh.
the irony of it is, that when i ordered the phone it went through ok and the money came off my card, then i got a text a few hours after the order, saying they were out of stock, i rang a few days later to see when they expected fresh stock and the girl i spoke to re ordered it for me, 2 days later 2 phones arrived at my house delivered as one shipment, i could have sold one phone but being honest i rang o2 and explained they'd made a mistake, i sent one phone back the next morning,
my phone also has the landscape/portrait problems in internet explorer and calender apps, where if i open in portrait and switch to landscape the screen flicks back and forth fast until i pull the battery, i planned to send it for an exchange anyway as my mate who has one at work has none of my phones problems, its just my luck it got scratched
I noticed last week, that on cold days my g2's earpiece speaker sounds REALLY distorted as if it was blown. When I got this phone (it was a new replacement for my G2 that turned of when GPS activated), I noticed that the screen was sorta washed out and greenish compared to my old G2 (and my bro's G2, at that!).
However, the hinge felt fine and all, so I told the rep how I felt (that it wasn't bad enough to warrant another exchange but it annoyed me), and he said he'd make a note about it for future reference...
That, and this speaker thing have me.. and last night I used my bro's G2 - the screen seemed SO MUCH better that I've finally decided I might as well get an exchange.
I'll probably end up with a refurb anyway, so .. how are they? Does T-Mobile just send out other people's used broken phones like I have a feeling they do? Do they actually bother to make them like new? Or are they ever scuffed or whatever? Just curious.. thanks!
I just got one in the mail on Friday and it was fine except for one very small scratch on the back close to the camera. And it is very small, and it does not affect anything at all.
One thing that I did not know is, they do not include memory cards on the phones if you get it through warranty. I wish I would have known that, because I would have kept mine from the phone I sold.
Other than that, it does not come in a G2 box, it is a white box with no markings except the sticker with the IMEI number and stuff. The phone did have plastic over the screen and all accessories were in original packaging.
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I just got one in the mail on Friday and it was fine except for one very small scratch on the back close to the camera. And it is very small, and it does not affect anything at all.
One thing that I did not know is, they do not include memory cards on the phones if you get it through warranty. I wish I would have known that, because I would have kept mine from the phone I sold.
Other than that, it does not come in a G2 box, it is a white box with no markings except the sticker with the IMEI number and stuff. The phone did have plastic over the screen and all accessories were in original packaging.
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weird. Htc and tmobile only send the phone for replacement phone. They don't send u accessories, battery, battery cover. You're suppose to take them apart and keep it before you send it in for replacement.
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Just tell them the refurb is having so and so problems and they'll send out another one at no charge.
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weird. Htc and tmobile only send the phone for replacement phone. They don't send u accessories, battery, battery cover. You're suppose to take them apart and keep it before you send it in for replacement.
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Mine might have been different because I used the handset protection warranty, and not the manufacturer warranty. If you go through Asurion, they send it out like mine was.
I bought my Atrix Feb 22 the day it came out. 1 month and 2 weeks later I sent a text message, went to check the phone 20 mins later and it was powered off. Never powered on since (tried everything to fix it). Not rooted, 100% stock with few apps, never dropped, huge Otterbox case and screen protector. I bought it from RadioShack, they said I had to talk to AT&T and that they wouldn't give me a new phone cause its after 30 days.
Anyway, AT&T sent me a refurb...or a used phone...or whatever it is. Well it has some defects of its own. I don't want to run around switching them phone after phone until I get one that works correctly. If I complain do you think I will get a new phone? Would I go to RadioShack or AT&T for that? And lastly, does anyone know what kind of phone I received from them, used, repaired, etc?
My refurb phone does this weird thing at startup, like it wants the lights to turn on but they dont. Also the bottom lights come on when they want and the green message light does as well. Otherwise the phone works fine it appears. Only had it for a day.
I went through this with verizon recently. The best you will get is a refurb. It really sucks because you are most likely never going to get a phone that works.
you can try motorola support, they might ask you to send the phone for repairs though.
If you replace the phone 3 times you can choose a new one oev.
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the above post is correct, i did that last year and finally they sent me the better version of the phone i had, and it was new not refurb.
So I need to go through 3 Refurb phones, or 1 New phone and 2 refurb phones?
This is my first refurb after my original new one died. While this phone works, it just doesnt seem to be godly like my original one was. It has restarted a few times, camera app froze, lights at the bottom do what they want, all things my original phone never did.
Sell it on Ebay, get a Nexus S.
Talked to ATT for what seems like the 12th time and they will send me another refurb. I asked the tech how many refurbs do I have to go through before I get a new one and he said he had never herd of anyone getting new phones for their problems. Any comments regarding this?
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Sell it on Ebay, get a Nexus S.
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Thanks for your insight.
Generally, ATT is a pain about giving away new phones. I don't think there is a cut and dry way of getting a new phone, but some people get lucky and others don't. Honestly... most refurbs are alright though. Nothing to get too fussy about unless there is actually something wrong with it. It is agitating though.
Well there is something wrong with this refurb. But if I get another refurb that is defective I honestly should get a new phone. Maybe if it had been a few months I would be ok with a refurb but the phone is a month and a half!