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Ok, on a beautiful day [aka 2 days back], I turned on the Atom and realized that there's a weirdest problem I've ever seen. It seems like the "up-arrow" button (or "north" in the d-pad) is being pressed all the time without being released. If I activate the start menu, for example, it would just automatically going through all the items bottom to top and back again.
First I thought it was a software problem, so I soft-reset it several times. That didn't help. But I found out something. If the atom was soft-reset, the problem does not appear until a hardware button is pressed [ie you can enjoy the touch-screen all you want]
So, I tried hard-resetting. Didn't help either. So I talked to myself, why not try some different ROM? So I did, tried it with 2 older ROMs from O2 (I have all the ROMs released). Didn't help.
It was frustrating because along with "keypad problem" you get another one free: there's no way to turn off the Atom. Try it yourself, holding an arrow button and press the power one, see if it turned off. So, I left the battery drain, just to see how it'd be.
After an afternoon, the atom drained completely. So I had to recharged it and wait. Surprisingly, after charged again, the problem seemed to go away! Thank god...
Now, I was trying to reproduce the problem again but no luck (or should I call it luck). After a few hours leaving it alone, when turned on, it was doing it again! I was so mad, I would have banged the thing on to the wall if I had another phone to use atm. Anyways, I left it to drain the battery and there it was, working again, for the whole night
This morning, when I woke up, guess what, it was doing it AGAIN!!! I'm so desparate now. Tell me what to do, please.
Thanks for going thru the problem w/ me. This is, by far, the weirdest and most frustrating problem I've ever experienced.
Stuck Button?
Hey I had a problem like this with my Wizard 8125 except it was with the Wireless Manager Button, acting as if it was always being pressed. I tried all the same things you did, but the only thing that solved it was taking it apart, blowing out any dust and making sure nothing like particles or sand or dirt was lodged between the button and the sensor. I guess you could try this and take your Atom apart. I have an Atom now but I don't know how to take it apart. Maybe search for the Technical manual on the web or on this site.
I hope this helps!
Thanks pelicantacos. However, being an all-thumb as I am, I don't think I have the courage to do it. But it's good to know one probable cause. Thanks again.
one more possibilities:
you have water between sensors. After you regarge, temperature go up (from battery), and water go out....
HI
wonder if anyone can help me.
Ive had a few problems with my phone ever since i stared to change the roms on it. Something i have just put up with as it goes with the flow. Anyway just recently my phone is really being a pain no matter what rom i have installed . It just turns off or freezes and has also now started to play silly games like all of a sudden everything starts opening on the phone, and sometimes the screen dimms to black then goes off and wont turn on unless i leave the battery out for a good five mins. anybody got any ideas about this all help would be welcomed.
JUst updated the Radio rom to the lastest one i could find on here seems to have helped a bit.
Andy
Have you disassembled it or got it wet? One of the hardware buttons may be stuck. Are they all working?
No all the buttons work ok mate. this evening ive tried a different rom and it seems to be ok ill run it for a few days see if it improves or goes back to being a pain.
I was wondering if it could be the battery its about 12 months old now (due an upgrade an dthinking of the diamond), Phone normally gets fully charged every couple of days.
Hello everybody,
After flashing an Elfin Rom to my Elf, my Elf stuck at there colors screen. Vodafone-Shop was quite helpful and they sent me a new Elf
I have been using the new Elf for about 3 weeks and for the third time (happens almost one time in a week), my Elf does not recognize, that i press the power button. If the display was off, i see that the led blinks and even the long pressing of the power button does not change anything. The only solution was a soft reset. Today i lived it again, but this time the display was on and it did not turn off. Holding the power button for a few seconds and restarting was the solution.
Has anyone the same problem or any ideas why it can happen?
Thanks in advance...
Erkan
On my HTC Touch (P3451) I have the same problem: The phone randomly freezes in such a way that I have to do a soft reset. Also, when the phone is on stand-by, when I press the On/Off button (to turn the screen on) nothing happens... neither if I press any of the other buttons (green, red or camera),despite of this, the green led of the top still blinks... Some other times, it justs restarts by it's own, no matter what I'm doing (a few time during today screen, some other using office, a couple listening tu music, and a lot of times when it was on stand by in my pocket).
Also, the phone loses the cellular signal very often (I don't know if that is related to the freezing problem).
I've tried doing a hard reset an using it without any 3rd party programs installes, but the problem persist.
I tried taking it to the vendor in Lima (where I live), but they say that because thre's a small scratch on the case, the warranty is void...
I don't know what to do about this... Any suggestions? please?
This is a hardware problem, This problem is associated with faulty motherboard, and suddenly, in a few days you will notice that phone will stop getting power on, it generally happens when phone falls on hard surface from a height, may due some dislocation of micro soldering. Its better you report to service centre, if the phone the phone is in warranty, they will replace motherboard free of cost, only issue is your device IMEI number will change with motherboard replacement.
i think the problem was something to do with the software. i flashed the Junior version of Onyx ROM with Windows Mobile 6.1 to my Elf, which has YouTube and GoogleEarth preinstalled and is memory-friendly at the same time. Now my Elf does not freez anymore.
I think it's a software problem.
I flashed a lot of ROMs in my Elf but, after a flash version 3.1.1 of really great Onyx Sr., the phone starts to have a bad behavior. It's freeze a lot and the green led still blinks.
I will try to use normal light off and shutdown method instead of using ShutXP to try. But it's definitely a software problem.
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Marcos Guimarães
Brazil
HI marcosvafg,
i have done the same like you, marcosvafg. but unfortunately my touch is lost in black-screen-smart-moblity-screen-space. can you give me a detailed description what you have done to restart your mobile phone?
i did this:
- go into bootloader
- start to install new rom
but every rom i used i got an error (image is corrupted, wrong model ID). which rom did you use?
many thanks
alex0123
I had a problem where my Elf started freezing almost after me entering the PIN. It is true that it got a rough drop just before doing it, but no serious damage was done to its skin.
I got it to the company and they changed the motherboard free of charge.
Hi guys,
i think gagandeepbains is right that this is a hardware problem. Because i lived it many times with some other cooked ROMs, and i can say that it is happening mostly when the temperature in the environment is low. maybe it is a reason, why this happens usually, when leaving the mobile on overnight...
after flashing my original ROM, i"ll give it back to Vodafone and ask for a change.
for you all, if you still have warranty, bring those back (and who knows, maybe you get an ELFIN instead of an ELF).
the same thing happened to my elf when i first got it back in august last year.
was a hardware problem, orange UK sent it to HTC for repair and i got it back 3 weeks later with a new motherboard in the phone,
also got a surprise to find that they had also upgraded the memory.
i sent in an elf and got an elfin back.
i thought that was a nice surprise
alright.
but to make sure, you can always upgrade to 03.21.90 radio.
thats the most stable one.
I had the same problem but with coocked roms (rarely with the original one)
early onyx roms had a bug with ELF but not in new roms
If still in warrenty try to change it again
Hi Everyone,
I'm having some issues with my P3600.
Sometimes (to many times in the past days) while making something on it, the image on the screen suddenly mess up (freezes and weird image) and hangs. Then after the soft reset, somethimes the image stays black, and finally on the 5\6 try it boots fine...
Also noticed that this occurs more while connecting the usb cable jack to sync...
Already make some hardresets and some rom upgrade tests... Also tryed some wm61 cooked rooms, no luck.
Anyone already got this? I think there's must be some problem on the flat cable that connects the lcd-board. Can anyone help me whit some more ideas... before I decide to open it?
Thanks In advantage
SteelwarrioR
it happens the same to me... the pixels all messed up... i dont know wath is the problembut i think its the flat cable ... becouse i have open it one time 3months ago and now its fine. now yesterday have done the same thing
sorry my english
Ok, I open it last night based on the service manual I found somewhere on the Internet, the flat cable looks fine... Now this morning this same situation occurred again, this time while unplugging the usb charger. I Think there's must be some problem on the usb connector. The usb connector is part of the main board so it could be a hardware board issue? Anyone got this on problem on Trinity? Any troubleshooting tips ideas will be appreciated...
SteelwarrioR
hi,
same here. trinity hangs up after some time, screen stays black, when i try to wake it up.
have to hard reset several times and it wont boot for some trys, then with luck the windows sometimes finaly starts. I already changed the simcard and removed the sd-storagecard.
The vodafone hotline adwised me to send it in. Seems to me like a hardware issue.
My trin is about 1 year old.
(sry for my bad english)
Andi
No solution Yet???????
hi,
same here. trinity hangs abouth 3 or 4 time a day, screen stays black, when i try to wake it up.
have to hard reset several times and it wont boot for some trys, then with luck the windows sometimes finaly starts
hi, the same to me... it's like the rom's, after a few soft reset couldn't find the necessary files to start again.... and sometimes, after meny tries, it starts well... it's like the ppc processor gets tired and goes to stand by..... it starts freezing the display, and loosing some pixels. so the only things to do is soft resetting the device... any solution? thanks
same with my htc - it appears to me that the errors occur when the trinity was used for a while and the processor was getting warm. the files and folders on the sd-card show strange symbols. but i have also problems when i stick out the sd-card completely.
i will send it to htc repair center - i just hope that they will not send it back as the errors occur only frequently.
so long,
bjoern
solution solved
take taste power and center ok reset take few sec to powering and phone starting
or power and run and stop call reset and phone starting on factory powering
not solved at all
sorry no - this is not the point - i think all guys here have (hard- and soft-) reset their Trinity more than 50x!
the problem is that once the software has crashed you can`t reset it for about 20min - it seems that the processor has to cool down or something like that - after a while (if I´m lucky) my P3600 boots as normal.
I already flashed several new roms - same problem with all of them - I`m pretty sure it`s a hardware failure.
Hello, i don't have any such problem, my Trinity runs very stable even with cooked roms. but sometimes Mobile navigator 7 takes too much memory so the System becomes instable and i have to softreset it.
Hi, mine bug also, and that's begin 2 or 3 days after I have flash to the 1.56.70.11 Radio Rom....
mine worked fine for about 1 1/2 years but suddenly it crashed continous. i havent flashed it and allready hard reseted several times on different days. sometimes it worked for a while but hangs if i started a bigger app like tomtom. vodafone told me they will exchange my p3600. now im waiting for their call
E: Got a new one today which works perfectly so far!
Hi guys,
has anyone had this issue solved without swapping the device?
I have the same problem.....
Bye
Petz
Same problem here...
I have to sftreset or hard reset several times to get it runing again...
In my opinion its some kind of problem with the processor...
Stiil i'm hoping this is a software insue... so that sone one have a hotfix for that...
For my part, when my Trinity crash, I remove the mini-SD, the SIM card and the battery. I just re put the battery, restart (soft reset until WM has realy start, and no more touch or screen freezes), I replace the sim, restart again.. and finaly I replace the mini-sd. It's very long, but generally works well
EDIT:
Finally, I better make my tongue and keep my method for me because at evening begin, my trinity crashed and impossible to turn it on until I finally come back house and have no need more...
my hand that it will crash tomorow morning juste after leave to works
hi, i started getting the same problem.
only thing different is I upgraded to wm6.1 (Mary SL)
I took it back to wm6 which was still locking, then down to wm5.
1week later no issue!
maybe the wm6+ os's needs more cpu than wm5 and causes it to overheat!
just a thought!
xpuser8334 said:
maybe the wm6+ os's needs more cpu than wm5 and causes it to overheat!
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I don't think so because I downgraded my Trinity to original WM5 and, even if there were less crashes, it crashed anyway.
Now it's still with WM5 but it doesn't start anymore, only backlight.
Ciao
Petz
I want to let you known that my Trinity has run ok for 5 hours without any issue after putting some paper between battery and metallic plate under the battery.
I had to press a little over the rear cover to have it placed correctly because the battery is higher than before.
Keep in mind that it stopped running completely 3 monthes ago, it didn't start anymore and it didn't even go into bootloader mode.
Now I'm using WinMobile 6.5 beta........
Ciao!
Petz
Hi Guys , i have Trinity P3600 in Egypt ,,, it worked perfectly for more than 2 years , but last month it make the same problem like mentioned b4 , hangs , stuck in boot image , or mess in pixel ,,, and i tried to downgrade but no luck, i tried to use different Radio ,, it works sometime , but after a week no , i tried to take out the battery and wait for 3 hours , then back again , so it works but again it hangs if i start my GPS (IGO8) or heavy programs/.
any solution pls
Thanks
Anyone else have this problem? Sometimes, if the screen goes to sleep, when I wake it back up, the touchscreen is unresponsive. I have to soft reset to get it to start up again. Any ideas on how to fix it?
I had the same problem, and flashed another rom, and problem gone.
Hello guys,
I was just searching through the forum with this exact problem and found this thread.
If the phone wakes up from sleep the touchscreen is unresponsive for a few seconds. If I insist to press it it only takes longer for it to respond. This is a very big problem because I sometimes miss calls because I can't answer them. Not even the for hard buttons don't work (maybe because they are also touchscreen).
I've tried flashing different ROM's (Miri, Dutty, NRG) even flashed back to the standard one and again back to a 6.5 one (as I saw this step fixes a lot of problems for some people) but the result is the same. I'm running out of ideas.
I don't think it's a hardware issue because if i leave the phone until the backlight dims and touch it, it goes back on, so it registers the press but doesn't act on it.
It's a very serious and I'm hoping someone here has a solution.
Nobody else is having this issue? Is there no hint on what is going wrong with our phones?
It appears it's happening more and more often and the screen is dead for more and more time.
Hi
I have had the same problem but solved tonight
There are many threads about this but no real solution I tried them all.
My first HD lasted till last week when I had to replace it because of a "Newton Ring" problem. In 10 months of ownership I got a screen freeze maybe 5 times.
My new replacement arrived last Saturday - same original Orange Rom and radio.
I have loaded exactly the same programs from the old phone and have found that when I put it in sleep mode via the power button its a 50/50 chance of it waking up. Receiving a text message does not wake it up either.
I can hear the volume control working and the haptic buttons provide feedback - but black screen. If I hold the power button down I get the bleep to ask if I want to power the device off - then all goes dead. If I wait 5 minutes the haptic buttons/volume buttons work again and the screen comes alive revealing the yes/no option to power off.
Also strange whilst in this locked state the orange charging light comes on - when it goes off I know i can wake the screen up !
I tried :
Enabling and disabling the Today Screen timeout
Auto adjust backlight off and on
Different screen brightness
Manual/default operator selection
Checked HD Tweaks settings were correct in registry and things I can't remember.
What has worked :
Start - Settings - System - Power - Advanced and unchecked the box "turn off device if not used for 5 minutes"
The daft thing is this was enabled on my old phone and would always wake up with a text/call or power button push !
What has changed ?
r
Andrew
Update - Found the problem
Whilst the above fixed my freeze problem it has been bugging me why - as the advanced power features are useful and I don't always remember to hit the power button to sleep the device.
I have now realized what was not set up the same as my old phone.
No start up password !
To enable this I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5004821 and changed my registry setting to 0.
This immediately takes you to the lock screen where you can now enter your password details and make them stick.
I now have a start up password and can set the timeout to 24hrs.
All the power settings now work correctly - and no screen freeze
r
Andrew
Spoke too soon
3 hours ago went to use my phone - black screen
Connected via activesync and MyMobileR.
Rebooted and got the "Microp Version Mismatch 0" message.
Checked out threads about this error on the mainly Diamond forum and can confirm my screen is well and truly dead.
Contacted Orange and they are sending another replacement tomorrow.
What p*sses me off is the number of hours I have spent to get one normal days use.
r
Andrew
Sorry to keep posting to this thread - but I am hoping that my experiences may help somebody
As said I am getting a replacement tomorrow and in one of the threads a guy said put it in the fridge for 20 minutes !
Well I thought what the h*ll and did.
Wrapped it in some tissues to absorb the condensation when I took it out - replaced the battery and it works - no Microp message and has behaved ok for 6 hours.
Got to be a hardware issue ?
Your thoughts.............
r
Andrew
Hi Bigfish,
please let me know the phone is still ok after more hours out of the fridge. i have similar problem on my HTC touch- ELF and i have been searching for solution, and i found this
http://www.fixya.com/support/t982721...not_responding .
i do not have tools to open it myself and would like to try it.
if you r familiar with it please let me know.
cheers
M.
Hi
Sorry your link is not working.
As to the phone it was still ok 26 hours later when I had to exchange it for my replacement.
Weird !
r
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
the fridge trick did not work for me. i kept searching for solutions and i found out that the problem is the digitizer (the touch screen). it might have received a shock (dropped on the ground) or other unusual pressure (in the pocket), and the digitizer gets out of initial position. the digitizer takes that contact as a tap -a continious tap- and does not respond to other taps. you might have to open the device and reposition the digitizer or replace it is there is some damage.
cheers
mumur
Sorry to hear that.
My replacement phone - so far has behaved perfectly.
r
Andrew
it strikes me that if I shake the phone that the phone jamming. I get no response. Even when I tap my finger hard against the rear top I get a crash. The only solution is to take out the battery and reboot. I think it has to do with a hardware problem.
there are others who also suffer from it?