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i had a very bad experience with nand backup/restore very recently and wanted to share it with the community and hear any feedback or suggestions where i eventually did wrong.
First of all i have to state i am a newbe on Android and have just started learning how to do some mods via the great help of this forum.
here is my case: I have partitioned my SD and moved all existing apps to the newly created partition via recovery mode. When I reboot no apps showed (i am not sure apps2sd is missing or what) therefore I decided to restore my earlier backup which went trhough succesfully but guess what ? ..... the phone did not reboot anymore and it arrived only up to the HTC flashing logo and got stuck there.
I had to find the stock rom again (sorry i forgot to mention i was using the stock rom) and reflash it from scratch which finally made it to work. thanks to shipped-roms.com !!!
My first guess is that for some reason the restore did not work and i got into a sort of loop mode because i tried moving all apps to SD before rebooting and this did not work properly.
does anyone have any idea of what could have been the problem ? I will provide any addiotional specifics if needed.
pardol said:
i had a very bad experience with nand backup/restore very recently and wanted to share it with the community and hear any feedback or suggestions where i eventually did wrong.
First of all i have to state i am a newbe on Android and have just started learning how to do some mods via the great help of this forum.
here is my case: I have partitioned my SD and moved all existing apps to the newly created partition via recovery mode. When I reboot no apps showed (i am not sure apps2sd is missing or what) therefore I decided to restore my earlier backup which went trhough succesfully but guess what ? ..... the phone did not reboot anymore and it arrived only up to the HTC flashing logo and got stuck there.
I had to find the stock rom again (sorry i forgot to mention i was using the stock rom) and reflash it from scratch which finally made it to work. thanks to shipped-roms.com !!!
My first guess is that for some reason the restore did not work and i got into a sort of loop mode because i tried moving all apps to SD before rebooting and this did not work properly.
does anyone have any idea of what could have been the problem ? I will provide any addiotional specifics if needed.
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hi
app2sd has to be cooked into the rom and cannot be installed separately into the rom so have u used a rom with apps2sd in it im using Jacobs 1.5 which has apps2sd and i have done ext3 part & to my knowledge u need to do ext3 part for apps2sd to work
hope this helps
Actually you can install apps2sd after flashing a rom without. Just flash the darktremor skript you find in the forum. It depends on the rom if it's working fine or not. It worked for me with modaco r3.
Thank you for your help. As I stated originally i am using the original shipped rom and I have flashes a modified recovery where I can both partition the sd, do an ext2 to ext3 and eventually move all applications to the sd, however when I did it they all disappeared. Because all seemed to be available via the recovery menu is did it without checking more but I will need to do so since my Tattoo is already full.
I have not read around anyone saying that original Roms cannot install apps2sd. Am I wrong?
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pardol said:
Thank you for your help. As I stated originally i am using the original shipped rom and I have flashes a modified recovery where I can both partition the sd, do an ext2 to ext3 and eventually move all applications to the sd, however when I did it they all disappeared. Because all seemed to be available via the recovery menu is did it without checking more but I will need to do so since my Tattoo is already full.
I have not read around anyone saying that original Roms cannot install apps2sd. Am I wrong?
Sent from my HTC Tattoo using XDA App
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As I already said you can install the apps2sd script. But it is not installed by default. So if you want to use it you have to install it first. The rom can not detect your apps on the ext partition because you have not activated a2sd. You can find it here.
sandrome said:
As I already said you can install the apps2sd script. But it is not installed by default. So if you want to use it you have to install it first. The rom can not detect your apps on the ext partition because you have not activated a2sd. You can find it here.
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this is great thank you. just a last request: is it possible to remove and return all apps to the internal memory in case I want to restore as it is now ?
in addition does this work for all apps even if they are not setup to be running from SD card ?
sorry if i am asking so many questions but given my previous bad experience i want to make sure i am not going to screw up everytning again....
I don't know if there is a command in the a2sd script that can remove those files from your sd. Maybe a2sd remove in an adb shell, but I'm not sure. You can move any app to your sd with this script. The other thing is for froyo. I think you don't even need an ext partition on 2.2.
Thank you very much for your help!
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Hello I have already installed android on my hd2 and it is running fine with no problems expect the battery issue. I wanted to install a new android rom. So if I copy all the data that i have on my sd card and install the new rom. For instance if i dont like the new rom is it possible that ill copy all the old data back to my sd card and my previous rom will start working...?
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Hello I have already installed android on my hd2 and it is running fine with no problems expect the battery issue. I wanted to install a new android rom. So if I copy all the data that i have on my sd card and install the new rom. For instance if i dont like the new rom is it possible that ill copy all the old data back to my sd card and my previous rom will start working...?
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Not all build types are the same. You may introduce problems by hanging on the the data.img of different builds.
Hi guys,
I'm real new here but I've done some lurking around in the past. I've rooted my wildfire and i've flashed it with that Cyanogen rom rc2(i think it is).
Anywho I currently have a 2gb microsd in my phone at the moment. I'm going to upgrade to a 16gb when I get the cash but if I do will I have to install that rom again and all the apps? Is the system data kept on the sd?
Also where do my nandroid backups get saved to and titanium backups of apps?
Thanks and sorry for being so noob!
If you do a nandroid backup which is saved to sd Ans copy it over to new card you will have a carbon copy wallah
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Copy everything to your new sd card, saves the trouble its what I did haha.i didn't have to do a nandroid restore as I kept the stock rom.
You won't have to reinstall anything, if its on your phone memory, so like I said, copy everything over
ahh sweet thanks alot! so helpful
hes got a sprint cdma hero that he is complaning that theres no room to install programs and its slow.
he has a 8gb sdcard in the phone and another spare
today i tried rooting but it appears that the phone is already rooted
installed titanium backup and backed up all his apps to the sdcard
installed sms backup and restore, backed up to sdcard
went to contacts, settins, and exported to sd card
Q. I rooted and custom romed my other buddies phone and not all his contacts were exported. Is there something else i need to do to get all contacts backed up?
Q. i couldent find "Call Logs Backup & Restore" in the market. Do i really need it?
ok so this point i plan on plugging the phone into ubuntu, and copying all the data on the SD card to my laptop. This should backup all his pictures, contacts, craps onto my laptop.
Then i will install clockworkmod recovery from market. Reboot into recovery.
The use ADB to manually partiton the 8 gb SD card
1 - 7.5GB FAT32
2 - 512MB ext4
3 - 32MB swap
Q. Is this sound like a good layout?
Now that the card is partitioned i will install clockworkmod via the market and make a backup of the current system state, just incase he wants to go back to original. and copy the new rom from the laptop to the sdcard
as far as roms / kernels
i am overwhelmed and confused by the choices, he just wants something fast without bugs and without the sprint preloaded crap. But i dont think he wants any fancy custom hacker looking ****, just something plain fast and works.
Q. would cynagonmod be a good choice?
Q. Do i need to load a custom kernel in addition to loading the ROM ?
Q. after the new rom is installed is that when i copy his original sdcard data back to the newly formatted sd card?
sorry about the questions, this is a guy i work with and i wanna show off my leet, but i dont wanna **** his phone as hes goin on vacation soon and needs it to just work. I have a galaxy tab, acer tab, but never messed with a htc phone. i am curious to hear if this sound like the best way to go at it?
thanks
gophet said:
hes got a sprint cdma hero that he is complaning that theres no room to install programs and its slow.
he has a 8gb sdcard in the phone and another spare
today i tried rooting but it appears that the phone is already rooted
installed titanium backup and backed up all his apps to the sdcard
installed sms backup and restore, backed up to sdcard
went to contacts, settins, and exported to sd card
Q. I rooted and custom romed my other buddies phone and not all his contacts were exported. Is there something else i need to do to get all contacts backed up?
Q. i couldent find "Call Logs Backup & Restore" in the market. Do i really need it?
ok so this point i plan on plugging the phone into ubuntu, and copying all the data on the SD card to my laptop. This should backup all his pictures, contacts, craps onto my laptop.
Then i will install clockworkmod recovery from market. Reboot into recovery.
The use ADB to manually partiton the 8 gb SD card
1 - 7.5GB FAT32
2 - 512MB ext4
3 - 32MB swap
Q. Is this sound like a good layout?
Now that the card is partitioned i will install clockworkmod via the market and make a backup of the current system state, just incase he wants to go back to original. and copy the new rom from the laptop to the sdcard
as far as roms / kernels
i am overwhelmed and confused by the choices, he just wants something fast without bugs and without the sprint preloaded crap. But i dont think he wants any fancy custom hacker looking ****, just something plain fast and works.
Q. would cynagonmod be a good choice?
Q. Do i need to load a custom kernel in addition to loading the ROM ?
Q. after the new rom is installed is that when i copy his original sdcard data back to the newly formatted sd card?
sorry about the questions, this is a guy i work with and i wanna show off my leet, but i dont wanna **** his phone as hes goin on vacation soon and needs it to just work. I have a galaxy tab, acer tab, but never messed with a htc phone. i am curious to hear if this sound like the best way to go at it?
thanks
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Q. would cynagonmod be a good choice?
Yes
Q. Do i need to load a custom kernel in addition to loading the ROM ?
No
Q. after the new rom is installed is that when i copy his original sdcard data back to the newly formatted sd card?
Yes
I wouldn't do the swap partition tho. It will kill the SD card in a less than a month. Cyanogenmod and AOSPCMod are good choices and have settings under the Cyanogenmod settings for memory management and caching so the swap partition really isn't needed. It wouldn't help unless it was at least a class 6 sd card too.
fpineda thank you for the prompt reply
Yea, Cyanogenmod 7 is best. Make sure it's the Heroc one. It will say "aospCWMod-HEROC" on the file name, then the version number. Download it and copy it to the root of the microsd card.
I also agree with gophet about partitioning the SD card. Just leave it alone. You won't have to restore any of the data but it's good that you backed it up on the laptop just in case.
Once you install clockworkmod, shut down. Then turn on the phone while holding down the home key. It will put you in recovery.
From there go to "flash zip from sd card" --> and pick the Cyanogenmod. It will take a while but you should have no problems. Also, the first boot will take a long time.
Sounds like you should look into firerating it, if that's even a word.
Hi guys, I have the Huawei U8800 and it has the Official Gingerbread (2.3.5) B528 ROM and I read that I need to have 2.3.5 to upgrade to Aurora ROM, I did root the device and installed Clockwork Mod 5.5.0.4 which is compatible with that rom. I did wipe dalvik cache, wiped user data and all that. But when I flash the rom, it gets stuck on the Huawei Boot Screen and when I turned it off and on again it installed Android 2.3.5 on its own. On the screen it said upgrade firmware step 1 out of 2, do not turn off device. Any help would be appriecated as I have searched high and low for a solution, so I did try to find someone with a similar problem but I still can't solve it.
I'm sorry, but I think you are not following the steps properly. Make sure you go through all steps thoroughly.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED CUSTOM PARTITION BUT I RECOMMEND YOU CUSTOM PARTITION YOUR PHONE SO YOU CAN INSTALL BIGGER ROMS!!! (here)
Go to my Xperia Style GB ROM (in my signature) and follow the steps there install a ROM, but use Aurora instead of my ROM.
I think the 2.3 GB ROM installs again before you still have the 'dload' folder on your sd card. The phone detects it and starts installing it again.
Wow thanks for such a quick reply, I will try to follow your steps. Thanks a lot!
rqmok said:
I'm sorry, but I think you are not following the steps properly. Make sure you go through all steps thoroughly.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED CUSTOM PARTITION BUT I RECOMMEND YOU CUSTOM PARTITION YOUR PHONE SO YOU CAN INSTALL BIGGER ROMS!!! (here)
Go to my Xperia Style GB ROM (in my signature) and follow the steps there install a ROM, but use Aurora instead of my ROM.
I think the 2.3 GB ROM installs again before you still have the 'dload' folder on your sd card. The phone detects it and starts installing it again.
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Hey, I followed your steps but still stuck on the bootscreen. I followed your steps exactly as they are, I don't know what im doing wrong :/
rqmok said:
I'm sorry, but I think you are not following the steps properly. Make sure you go through all steps thoroughly.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED CUSTOM PARTITION BUT I RECOMMEND YOU CUSTOM PARTITION YOUR PHONE SO YOU CAN INSTALL BIGGER ROMS!!! (here)
Go to my Xperia Style GB ROM (in my signature) and follow the steps there install a ROM, but use Aurora instead of my ROM.
I think the 2.3 GB ROM installs again before you still have the 'dload' folder on your sd card. The phone detects it and starts installing it again.
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Elora ROM
UPDATE: I managed to installed the Elora ROM which is based on Aurora ROM and is working just fine! Thanks. Also I tried your ROM the Sony Ericsson Themed GB and it worked also . But somehow when I used your partition guide I messed up my phones internal memory (2GB) and I cannot access it from my computer.
se7entijz said:
UPDATE: I managed to installed the Elora ROM which is based on Aurora ROM and is working just fine! Thanks. Also I tried your ROM the Sony Ericsson Themed GB and it worked also . But somehow when I used your partition guide I messed up my phones internal memory (2GB) and I cannot access it from my computer.
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That doesn't mean it is messed up.
The custom partition takes memory from your internal sdcard and dedicates it to your phone's internal memory. So, your internet sdcard's memory goes from 2GB to 1.46GB, and your phone's internal memory shoots to 1.2GB. This way, you can install bigger ROMs on your phone and install more apps on your phone.
I don't know about accessing the internal sdcard from your computer because I never even tried doing it.
Ok I managed to find a program on the PC that can read the internal sd card and it worked great! The weird thing is, I installed an Updated version of the same ROM (Elora 1.7.28) and it was much more unstable than the previous version, to be frank Im trying to understand if the developer is still updating the ROM or not since it is dated from 2012.
For example, downloading apps from the market were extremely slow and when I connected the phone to the PC, the PC didn't even detect I connected my phone and apart from that, usually in android it tells you to connect your device for usb storage, Android didn't even give me that.
So I restored to a backup I made of the previous version of the ROM (Elora v1.1.10 something like that) and connected to the PC works fine, android tells me for usb storage, and downloading apps from the market is extremely fast.
Although the phone is working quite well (Elora V1.1), some games like Real Racing 3, Frontline Commando and Frontline Commando D-Day didn't work. Apart from that its working quite well. Sorry for the long text.
rqmok said:
That doesn't mean it is messed up.
The custom partition takes memory from your internal sdcard and dedicates it to your phone's internal memory. So, your internet sdcard's memory goes from 2GB to 1.46GB, and your phone's internal memory shoots to 1.2GB. This way, you can install bigger ROMs on your phone and install more apps on your phone.
I don't know about accessing the internal sdcard from your computer because I never even tried doing it.
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se7entijz said:
Ok I managed to find a program on the PC that can read the internal sd card and it worked great! The weird thing is, I installed an Updated version of the same ROM (Elora 1.7.28) and it was much more unstable than the previous version, to be frank Im trying to understand if the developer is still updating the ROM or not since it is dated from 2012.
For example, downloading apps from the market were extremely slow and when I connected the phone to the PC, the PC didn't even detect I connected my phone and apart from that, usually in android it tells you to connect your device for usb storage, Android didn't even give me that.
So I restored to a backup I made of the previous version of the ROM (Elora v1.1.10 something like that) and connected to the PC works fine, android tells me for usb storage, and downloading apps from the market is extremely fast.
Although the phone is working quite well (Elora V1.1), some games like Real Racing 3, Frontline Commando and Frontline Commando D-Day didn't work. Apart from that its working quite well. Sorry for the long text.
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I don't know about all those errors because I never tried Elora. But, the developer is obviously not working on it anymore. (Don't know where the developer is )
I decided to jump ship and go back to 2.3.5 using your Xperia Style ROM, it's much much much more smooth.
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I don't know about all those errors because I never tried Elora. But, the developer is obviously not working on it anymore. (Don't know where the developer is )
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se7entijz said:
Hi guys, I have the Huawei U8800 and it has the Official Gingerbread (2.3.5) B528 ROM and I read that I need to have 2.3.5 to upgrade to Aurora ROM, I did root the device and installed Clockwork Mod 5.5.0.4 which is compatible with that rom. I did wipe dalvik cache, wiped user data and all that. But when I flash the rom, it gets stuck on the Huawei Boot Screen and when I turned it off and on again it installed Android 2.3.5 on its own. On the screen it said upgrade firmware step 1 out of 2, do not turn off device. Any help would be appriecated as I have searched high and low for a solution, so I did try to find someone with a similar problem but I still can't solve it.
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remove dload folder on your internal and external sd card before flashing new rom
Yeah, in fact that did cross my mind. Yesterday I managed to repartition my card now I have ~2GB to install applications (Internal SD Card) thx guys. But I do have a problem Real Racing 3 tells me insufficient space although I do have enough space and it is installed on the internal SD Card and not the SD Card.
Unicorn9x said:
remove dload folder on your internal and external sd card before flashing new rom
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