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I'll be buying a MT3G in less than a week. I've been doing a ton of research before I have a $200 paper weight. I'm going to do the use FlashRec.apk and install Amon RA's recovery image. Then install Cyanogen's latest ROM. I like this recovery image for the APPS2SD feature. My question is as follows. I've read that changing the Radio and SPL isn't really necessary before installing a new ROM on MT3G. The video on theunlockr.com shows him changing them. I'm not uncomfortable doing it, but what is the advantages/disadvantages to changing it? (I read in another post here that someone bricked their device doing this.)
Thanks for all the info and work this site is great.
Don't bother.
Changing the standard radio or SPL from the MyTouch 3G isn't really necessary...unless you're planning to port a HERO ROM build to your device.
Otherwise, you're in good shape. The One-Click Root Method works out wonderfully. It's good to hear that you've done a fair bit of research on the topic. Btw, Amon_RA's image is fantastic. Far superior to Cyanogen's current build version.
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Thanks for the help. I'll be getting my new phone on Wednesday. Is there something different about Hero ROM's that I should be forewarned about if I decide to switch ROM's in the future?
I'm running a Hero rom with the stock SPL and radio with no issues. This is on a mt3g.
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Thanks for the help. I'll be getting my new phone on Wednesday. Is there something different about Hero ROM's that I should be forewarned about if I decide to switch ROM's in the future?
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Might run a bit slow on the 32b,and bluetooth isn't fully working yet.
Clinton
32B motherboard.
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Might run a bit slow on the 32b,and bluetooth isn't fully working yet.
Clinton
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I am yet to have any problems with Bluetooth. I use my headset often.
And to the other guy, I find that hard to believe that you have the standard, "out of the box" radio and SPL - yet somehow managed to find and flash a HERO port that is compatible.
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I am yet to have any problems with Bluetooth. I use my headset often.
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Interesting, you have full bluetooth on a Hero ROM? It's a known issue that bluetooth is not fully functioning on any Hero build, the kernel does not allow it. When the kernel is open source it will just be a matter of time.
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Must have New Radio and SPL for Hero
Necessary to have different Radio and SPL for Hero ROM's as stated by Reignzone? It's to my understanding though, that Hero ROM's on MT3G have considerable lag? Is this myth or fact? OR Dependent on the ROM?
Dont need to change anything.i have the stock spl and running evil hero 2.7x.great rom,no lag with 96mb linux-swap.by the way i have a mt3g. Spl ooo6. Good luck.
so uhh yeah, after being on stock froyo for a bit and them coming back to cyanogenmod i couldnt help notice the way wayy better reception and all that on froyo. and so i asked a question before about what does that and you guys said drivers and whatnot which im assuming is the "radio" that you all talk about in roms. so is there by any chance some way of getting this better radio on cyanogenmod? cheers
Just flash the latest radio and you're all set. I believe the latest is 7.13.35.05.
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Just flash the latest radio and you're all set. I believe the latest is 7.13.35.05.
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will that work? thats all i have to do? if so do you know where can i get the radio to flash then? and also, are you sure that would work lol? seems too.. simple
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will that work? thats all i have to do? if so do you know where can i get the radio to flash then? and also, are you sure that would work lol? seems too.. simple
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I flashed the zip from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841932
It works well...
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I flashed the zip from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841932 n
It works well...
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i already have that radio lol. i believe the froyo one is 7.14
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i already have that radio lol. i believe the froyo one is 7.14
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That radio is taken from the rom with Froyo released for Vodafone devices.
You probably have already installed it when you have flashed the latest OTA with Froyo. I'm not sure, but I don't think that installing CyanogenMod overwrites the radio installed by the stock rom.
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That radio is taken from the rom with Froyo released for Vodafone devices.
You probably have already installed it when you have flashed the latest OTA with Froyo. I'm not sure, but I don't think that installing CyanogenMod overwrites the radio installed by the stock rom.
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actually now that ive taken a look at my screenshot of that froyo rom ive got in my sig (the one im talking about that i was trying with the amazing wifi reception and all that) the radio is actually 7.05 and that other number in front of it is an older version too. so does that mean the older versions are better or what? i get better wifi reception and all that on an older radio? anyways im sure you see my point, so now im confused lol
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actually now that ive taken a look at my screenshot of that froyo rom ive got in my sig (the one im talking about that i was trying with the amazing wifi reception and all that) the radio is actually 7.05 and that other number in front of it is an older version too. so does that mean the older versions are better or what? i get better wifi reception and all that on an older radio? anyways im sure you see my point, so now im confused lol
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7.05? Or is it 7.13.35.05? If you do lurk around more and read through the radio update threads, some people already mentioned they have better reception on older radio. I can't verify that but the latest radio do make my reception better. Or you can try flashing a few radio update and see which has the best reception.
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7.05? Or is it 7.13.35.05? If you do lurk around more and read through the radio update threads, some people already mentioned they have better reception on older radio. I can't verify that but the latest radio do make my reception better. Or you can try flashing a few radio update and see which has the best reception.
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alright that sounds good then. is there like a main list or something where they all are or do i have to search through all the threads in development to find them?
Hello all! After seeing my vibrant mod'd a buddy wants me to mod his hd2. I've researched alot in these forums and can't really decifer what way to go or what rom to choose.
I am leaning towards an sd installation. It seems easily reversable just in case something goes wrong and im not trying to brick a phone here. The vibrant is probly the easiest phone to mod and impossible to brick.
I know opinions vary and im not trying to create a pissing match here. im going for speed. Speed and reliability more than anything. So that once I boot the custom rom on to his device there wont be any glitches that pulling the battery wont fix. Thanks for your responses. *** no a holes please either, just some positive input and pros and cons of the different types of installations.
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welcome to HD2
I know coming to mod a new phone can be kind of a pain even if you're a pro on another, I had the same thing rooting, S-Off, flashing a ROM, and changing PRL to get a Dinc on Cricket (I'm on GSM...) so I know how ti goes.
Android on HD2 is different from any other phone. actually flashing to NAND is safer than any other phone because it is basically impossible to brick, here's why:
When you flash HSPL (hard SPL that is a modified bootloader with security off so you can flash custom ROMs and radios) you then flash another bootloader on top of it, called MAGLDR. This new bootloader allows you to flash WP7 to NAND, run Android off SD, or flash Android to NAND, it also has CWM support when flashed into it.
If anything ever goes wrong you can always load back into HSPL and just flash a stock WM ROM over MAGLDR and you're good, so it's an awesome fail safe.
My current set-up is WP7 on NAND and a very good, stable, awesome, fast CM7 ROM on SD, you can choose which you want to boot into when you turn it on.
I haven't used this tutorial but it looks simple and very easy to understand
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=944288
If you JUST want Android I'd suggest going NAND with this ROM, it's a pretty awesome gingerbread ROM with some CM7 mods and other awesome features. Fast, stable, working everything, and the chef is really great with updates and support.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918899
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The only real way to brick this phone is to flash the wrong radio. To be on the safe side, do not flash any radio below 2.07.50.
The best radios I have found for Android are 2.12.50, 2.14.50, and 2.15.50, (the 2.15.50 being the best)
The best radio for WP7 seems to be 2.12.50.
Check the radio thread in HD2 WM development for the radio list and how to flash.
Orangeskid's 100% correct. The HD2 is probably one of the hardest phones to brick and there's no real point just going for SD because you're afraid to brick it as you won't.
Just make sure if its a TMo phone that you don't flash a .51 radio. That'll kill it.
Just flash 2.08.HSPL then a 2.15.50.14 radio. After that all you need to do is flash MAGLDR then Clockwork. I recommend a CM7 as they are definetly the fastest ROMs out there.
It's actually so much easier than a native Android device like a G2 *cough*.
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Thanks guys! I think ill try the nand way of things. At first glance it looks so damn intimidating, theres so many steps!
A few questions:
Does whatever radio i decide to flash conflict with any certain roms?(i was looking at the link you provided and thats probly what im going to use but it didnt say anything anywhere about radios)
And Is a custom kernel reccomended... Is it that much better than stock? (on the vibrant it makes a huge deal thats why im asking)
Overclocking: is it essential to overclock these devices and if so is the program on these phones setcpu? Or antother one? And is it ok to set on boot?
LOL! One last Q for now: After everythings said and done and installed is it ok to hit reboot from the power menu or would the user have to shut down and then power back on?
**all these questions are reffering to NAND**
No the radio doesn't. Just use the 2.15.50.14 one and you'll be fine. All the suitable kernels are built in to the Rom so you don't really have to worry about that. SetCPU is choice but I don't think there's any need but if you want the extra speed you can. Set on boot works too AFAIK. oh and yeah reboot will work properly. It's recommended to shut down and start again though.
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none of the radios above 2.12.50 seem to have any conflicts as far as I can tell.
Overclocking is pointless IMO, if your ROM doesn't work smooth as hell on 998mhz then the ROM is fubar and you should get another one. No sense putting your hardware at risk.
All kernels are "custom" since there is no official Android on HD2 build, I would just stay with whichever kernel comes in the ROM, the chefs here generally know what they are doing as far as which kernel to use. Tytung's kernel seems to be the best at the moment IMO for NAND.
One more question guys... thanks for all the info and guidance. Im in the usa and useing the tmobile hd2 am wondering if all the roms or more specspecifically the rom you gave me the link too work for that phone? Thanks again.
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One more question guys... thanks for all the info and guidance. Im in the usa and useing the tmobile hd2 am wondering if all the roms or more specspecifically the rom you gave me the link too work for that phone? Thanks again.
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everything works on all HD2s except you can flash a .51 radio on the euro version. This is obsolete since you won't be flashing anything below 2.12.50 anyways (or there's no reason for you to). Also some WM6.5 roms may be euro only.
So any Android ROM you see in the NAND or SD dev you can flash to any HD2 and be fine, and actually you have the advantage here. You see, the TMOUSA HD2 has 1gb ROM instead of the 512 in the Euro, so this means you can flash the Desire HD roms on NAND without having to squash everything and go thru a lot of ext parition drama, unless you still want to.
short answer is this: Flash whatever Android ROM you want, you're good to go.
edit: also note some ROMs have a tmo version and euro version, these are just optimized with APNs and set up to work with the network better, if you get a choice go with tmo, if not then that's fine too.
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everything works on all HD2s except you can flash a .51 radio on the euro version. This is obsolete since you won't be flashing anything below 2.12.50 anyways (or there's no reason for you to). Also some WM6.5 roms may be euro only.
So any Android ROM you see in the NAND or SD dev you can flash to any HD2 and be fine, and actually you have the advantage here. You see, the TMOUSA HD2 has 1gb ROM instead of the 512 in the Euro, so this means you can flash the Desire HD roms on NAND without having to squash everything and go thru a lot of ext parition drama, unless you still want to.
short answer is this: Flash whatever Android ROM you want, you're good to go.
edit: also note some ROMs have a tmo version and euro version, these are just optimized with APNs and set up to work with the network better, if you get a choice go with tmo, if not then that's fine too.
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thanks for useful info.....i am really in love wid HD2
Hi All
I have a Android Dev Phone 1 which I think is the G1.
It's probably rooted coz I can go to terminal and su without problems.
What I am looking to is to put Froyo on it.
Is this possible? Is there a upgrade guide specific for this phone?
Let me know if more information I needed.
Thanks.
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Very nice thanks
ADP1 is an HTC DREAM
G1 is meaningless.
If its bone stock, it probably has 0.95.3000 SPL and either a 1.x or 2.x radio. Make sure you upgrade the radio to the latest one available at developer.htc.com/adp.html -- then read everything in the DREAM forums.
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Hi All
I have a Android Dev Phone 1 which I think is the G1.
It's probably rooted coz I can go to terminal and su without problems.
What I am looking to is to put Froyo on it.
Is this possible? Is there a upgrade guide specific for this phone?
Let me know if more information I needed.
Thanks.
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dhkr234 said:
ADP1 is an HTC DREAM
G1 is meaningless.
If its bone stock, it probably has 0.95.3000 SPL and either a 1.x or 2.x radio. Make sure you upgrade the radio to the latest one available at developer.htc.com/adp.html -- then read everything in the DREAM forums.
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So, does the HTC Dream & G1 get the same updates that the ADP1 does?
Since we on GB radios shouldnt it be a ICS radio
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Since the MT4G isn't getting official ICS, there won't be an ICS radio. Radios really aren't something that can be ported between devices. We know the MT4G is soon getting a small update of some kind, so it's possible a new GB radio will be part of that package.
Maybe football, will be able to work his magic an find us an ics update, or something useful.that dude is magical
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Maybe football, will be able to work his magic an find us an ics update, or something useful.that dude is magical
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Yeah he is, but where would he get it from? The DHD ICS OTA?
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Yeah he is, but where would he get it from? The DHD ICS OTA?
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I might now how he finds them, but I digress. The dhd actual ROM update we could use, as for the radio.img, that's a different story. Our latest radio, is a dhd one, but that doesn't mean the newest one will be compatible with our phone.
Somebody who can unbrick there phone from a failed radio, they would be able to test it for us. I don't know who could do that right now.
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The baseband builds in newer phones have nothing to do with OS in any case. There's no "Gingerbread radio" or "ICS radio". The newer baseband build in the OS package is just that - a newer build, not even necessarily a better one. Just an opportunity for manufacturer to update everything on the phone.
The last HTC phone that had the baseband tied to the build (requiring baseband update to use camera) was Nexus One, AFAIK.
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I might now how he finds them, but I digress. The dhd actual ROM update we could use, as for the radio.img, that's a different story. Our latest radio, is a dhd one, but that doesn't mean the newest one will be compatible with our phone.
Somebody who can unbrick there phone from a failed radio, they would be able to test it for us. I don't know who could do that right now.
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The latest radio came from the latest MT4G OTA update from a few months ago. I know this because my friend has a stock MT4G that received that OTA and we both have the same baseband/radio version (I'm running the newest from the radio thread). Not sure what you mean about the latest radio coming from the DHD.
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The latest radio came from the latest MT4G OTA update from a few months ago. I know this because my friend has a stock MT4G that received that OTA and we both have the same baseband/radio version (I'm running the newest from the radio thread). Not sure what you mean about the latest radio coming from the DHD.
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I read in the thread by football, that someone checked the dhd radios (idky) an they were the same. Either my tiredness is getting to me or I miss read it. An I did forget about the last update we had, been rooted to long, lol.
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I read in the thread by football, that someone checked the dhd radios (idky) an they were the same. Either my tiredness is getting to me or I miss read it. An I did forget about the last update we had, been rooted to long, lol.
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I am pretty sure that you are correct.
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I am pretty sure that you are correct.
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I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong, but if that's true then someone needs to explain why my friend's stock MT4G with the latest OTA has the exact same radio as my phone running the latest radio from the radio thread. That fact along definitely suggests the latest radio came from the MT4G.
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I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong, but if that's true then someone needs to explain why my friend's stock MT4G with the latest OTA has the exact same radio as my phone running the latest radio from the radio thread. That fact along definitely suggests the latest radio came from the MT4G.
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It did!
Unless HTC decides they are going to build an ics rom for the mytouch (which thus far they have not included the glacier in their update lists) there will not be an "ics" radio. I would bet football works for HTC, he always finds their "leaks" whether or not they are even released.
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I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong, but if that's true then someone needs to explain why my friend's stock MT4G with the latest OTA has the exact same radio as my phone running the latest radio from the radio thread. That fact along definitely suggests the latest radio came from the MT4G.
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MT4G was updated and received the same radio as DHD, which was also updated. It doesn't matter which one you'll take the baseband build from - most likely they share the baseband build anyway.
DHD will receive official ICS, which might come with even more updated baseband. Needed or not - pretty sure that it won't be necessary for full ICS functionality, but not 100% sure.
I would like to add something. I come from the inspire/dhd side of things. As mentioned by Jack your latest ota radio matches with our 3.6.405 build radio. I downloaded the radios and compared the md5 sums and they were different. So they are the same base just with alteration for our specific devices
Possibly bootloader signatures? Need to run a byte-comparison to see. If the change is only in the header (first 1-2kB) - then it's most likely the signature.
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Possibly bootloader signatures? Need to run a byte-comparison to see. If the change is only in the header (first 1-2kB) - then it's most likely the signature.
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They might have the same version # but they are NOT interchangeable. If you don't believe flash one through hboot a see what happens
The baseband will be the same since its the same hardware however, the information embedded in the file will be different because of different carriers.
HKM: Do NOT flash any radio.img of another device on MT4Glacier. You will get hard-brick with remotely little to no chance of recovery even with jTAGing since you don't have lld image.
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They might have the same version # but they are NOT interchangeable. If you don't believe flash one through hboot a see what happens
The baseband will be the same since its the same hardware however, the information embedded in the file will be different because of different carriers.
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From the development point of view, having 2 builds that differentiate in anything, but share the same version number, is extremely unlikely.
I've byte-compared the radios. There's 1 byte difference in the header, which most likely means nothing since it's in the signature area, and a small (~several tenths of bytes) block of difference at the end, where it again, might nothing (past the actual code block). Which means, in simple words, that these radios have a very high likelihood of being completely identical. Not 100% certainty - since they're obviously not completely identical - but the differences might not be of any significance.
[edit] It also makes good sense for them to be identical. Both phones use the same Qualcomm SoC with integrated multi-band baseband, and the difference between basebands might lie in HW only - like it is between 2 different Nexus One versions. I'm tempted to flash DHD radio just for kicks. Maybe I will one day.
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From the development point of view, having 2 builds that differentiate in anything, but share the same version number, is extremely unlikely.
I've byte-compared the radios. There's 1 byte difference in the header, which most likely means nothing since it's in the signature area, and a small (~several tenths of bytes) block of difference at the end, where it again, might nothing (past the actual code block). Which means, in simple words, that these radios have a very high likelihood of being completely identical. Not 100% certainty - since they're obviously not completely identical - but the differences might not be of any significance.
[edit] It also makes good sense for them to be identical. Both phones use the same Qualcomm SoC with integrated multi-band baseband, and the difference between basebands might lie in HW only - like it is between 2 different Nexus One versions. I'm tempted to flash DHD radio just for kicks. Maybe I will one day.
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Interesting....
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What the latest radio from the radio thread, 2.32.531.1 RUU?
I've been using Panache for quite a while now because I read in another thread that it was the strongest of the radios
majinkenZERO said:
What the latest radio from the radio thread, 2.32.531.1 RUU?
I've been using Panache for quite a while now because I read in another thread that it was the strongest of the radios
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There is no "strongest" radio. You have to test them each individually until you find what works best for YOU in YOUR area.
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