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So basically, my hd2 is not running smooth at all. Every time i do a rom update and then restore my contacts/messages/settings it keeps getting frozen and unresponsive. So I have to restart the device, but I don't know why it should be restarted anyway, isn't is kind of super fast?!?! So, now, when I recently updated my ROM, the device is so damn slow, that even after typing my PIN it takes a minute to launch htc sense and everything. When I'm moving through the tabs it's so damn laggy i can't stand it. . Is anyone else experiencing this????
To be honest, and I'm no expert, it sounds like you have some serious phone problems, probably out of your control. Not to sound like a pessimist but given how everyone else seems to be ok with the HD2, could be either a major rom/radio problem or hardware failure??
I've updated my hd2 using the official rom from HTC and, apart from the occasional lag i get from WinMo, my device runs sweet as a a proverbial nut. Especially as I have run the tweaks suggested by the forums here.
Given that you have said that you've upgraded the ROM and it's made no difference, the only thing i could suggest is possibly send it back under warranty?
Obviously, I'd wait and see if someone with more know-how has a better explanation, i'm merely giving you my POV.
Hope you get this sorted ASAP. A properly working HD2 is a marvellous thing.
All the best
To the OP,
There could be so many causes for your problems. I would start as follows:
- Take your SD card out and see if the phone boots and is not laggy with the card out
- If this does not work take a look at the SMS threads on here and see if the solutions there help you
- If no joy then read the Hints @ Tips thread on here, if you have not already done so, and pickup on the cache move tips, using the task manager to close open files, etc
- I that fails look for the thread "HD2 Died - or did it" and implement the solutions in there
- If that does not help and you have been flashing a fair few roms then hop over to the MTTY thread in rom development and see if that helps.
Plenty to be getting on with.
Hope you get it sorted.
WB
My power up to sense loaded time = 55 secs.
Any different?
thanks for this quick reply. I am using Energy Leo ROM, but I don't think this could be the problem, or is it? Because I have performed a hard-reset now and it's running quite smooth again.. But the question is for how long.
Two questions I have now:
-does it happen to anyone, when you try to wake up the phone, screen doesn't wake up, only the keys in the bottom start to glow? It happened to me from time to time
-does anyone else experience missed key taps? When I tap something from time to time it just doesn't get recognized so I have to "retap" it...
[^IcEmAn^] said:
thanks for this quick reply. I am using Energy Leo ROM, but I don't think this could be the problem, or is it? Because I have performed a hard-reset now and it's running quite smooth again.. But the question is for how long.
Two questions I have now:
-does it happen to anyone, when you try to wake up the phone, screen doesn't wake up, only the keys in the bottom start to glow? It happened to me from time to time
-does anyone else experience missed key taps? When I tap something from time to time it just doesn't get recognized so I have to "retap" it...
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I have experienced question 1 and 2.. however not alot or not frequent.. I tend to think that this is just a computer and computers do crash depending on whats going on.. The missed screen taps only happens once or twice when its playing up. I do have a screen protector on though so whether the dust, oil or screen protector is causing that is a different story, but isnt a big problem for me to remove the screen protector to find out.
so, the latest problem.. my hd2 had been running for ~16 hours without any problem now, but in last 10 minutes i had to restart it twice, because the screen stopped responding after i wanted to type new sms in a conversation (first time) and after i had a pop-up message about new sms (second time). As said before, I'm using energy rom, latest issue (17.2.). Could the problem be, in fact connected with this rom or specifically with sms software?
using cooked roms you can generally expect a few lockups and restarts.
Also, the screen not powering up, just the hard keys backlight is an issue across the board, from custom roms to official roms. Some roms seem to do it, some don't, but one that doesn't do it to me might well do it to you.
[^IcEmAn^] said:
so, the latest problem.. my hd2 had been running for ~16 hours without any problem now, but in last 10 minutes i had to restart it twice, because the screen stopped responding after i wanted to type new sms in a conversation (first time) and after i had a pop-up message about new sms (second time).
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It has been mentioned before that if you have a large number of texts stored, it will take a while for it to allow you to reply to a text. (It has to go through the database, check for the texts sent by the user, then arrange them alongside the ones sent to them by you, then put them in chronological order, then display them, this takes time)
but i would presume the device should be working anyway (but slower, of course) and not flashing the display and being "frozen" ?
The frozen issue with texts is all in the SMS thread I pointed you to earlier. Solutions to the phone freezing are in the HD2 Died thread, again as I pointed out earlier.
How many of these potential solutions have you tried? Tryy these things first then come back if they don't work rather than make assumptions about your ROM.
WB
after 3 months i still have the issue with missed strokes.. even after the latest energy rom update :\
anyone?
Hi all,
I'm running OzDROID 2.0 for my rom, 2.10.50.26 for my radio, and Hyperdroid1.6 for Android. Also TMOUS. I just recently updated my rom from an energy build to this one (wanted a lighter, faster loading WinMo). I've been having a nasty problem with the screen not coming back on when it goes to sleep. The buttons light up when i press them, but the screen stays black. Just today alone, i've had to pull the battery FOUR times. Some days it's ok, some days it's a nightmare. I checked the hyperdroid post for a radio recomendation but couldn't see any. I've tried using SetCPU to adjust clock speeds using profiles for sleeping, etc in hopes that some obscure thing will work. no good. I mean, what if i see bigfoot and want to snap a pic but the screen doesn't turn on?
My only ideas left include:
-Formatting my 16gb SD card. (would like to avoid, but will do if people think it would help. I hate setting stuff back up)
-Getting Hyperdroid1.7. (Havent yet cause 1.6 w/ Cyanogen is pretty F'n awesome, and minus this problem, i LOVE it)
-Updating my radio. (Going to do this anyways as i randomly get the "robot voice" problem. I plan on upgrading to 2.12.50.02_2 unless anyone has better suggestions)
I just wanted to check here to see if anyone has one of those "Ohh, enable <enableable option>, dumbass!" fixes. I'm not that experienced with this phone stuff. If anyone could help I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks!
Searching is your friend. App tray->Settings->Display->Auto-Rotate to OFF/Auto brightness to OFF. This has been covered bajillions of times, the HD2 builds of Android have problems with rotation and the light sensor causeing the kernel to wig out and BSOD.
Sorry for inconveniencing you. If you had any idea how much time i've spent on here trying to figure it out, you'd understand why I decided to just ask this myself. I've had this problem for a month and am finally just now posting. If I found that anywhere I would have gladly done it. The funny thing is - those two ARE disabled, and have been. I dont like auto-rotate and auto-adjust brightness has always been off.
I even took the time to read the "similar posts" that are recommended after typing in the subject.
Since those two are off and my problem persists, I suppose I should format my SD card and try other stuff. So while that problem may have been covered "a bajillion times" it appears your solution is not the miracle cure and is probably a good reason as to why it's been asked "a bajillion times."
Why is it then when I tell people to search, they instantly peg me as some jackass just trying to pawn them off. This issue, the "black screen of death" or, "my phone wont wake from sleep under android" HAS INDEED been covered many, many times. It's cause by either what I just told you, or the particular kernel that you are running is one that tends to get stuck in the sleep mode and won't let the screen come back on. Seriously 9 times out of 10 the problem is caused by auto rotate or auto brightness.
Ashasaur is right but also none of the android versions are very stable anyway and eventually you will face this problem on all of them some sooner than others but they will eventually crash in one way or another
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Why is it then when I tell people to search, they instantly peg me as some jackass just trying to pawn them off. This issue, the "black screen of death" or, "my phone wont wake from sleep under android" HAS INDEED been covered many, many times. It's cause by either what I just told you, or the particular kernel that you are running is one that tends to get stuck in the sleep mode and won't let the screen come back on. Seriously 9 times out of 10 the problem is caused by auto rotate or auto brightness.
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I don't doubt that, but when you reply to someone asking for help with a tone as if they are retarded, don't expect them to buy you flowers. Sorry this has been asked so many times but I feel i put good time into researching this problem and didn't see a problem asking a Question on a QUESTION and answer forum. Like i said, sorry i inconvenienced you and I do appreciate your response, however you did come across as a jackass. I understand you probably deal with a lot of crap as a forum mod, but I didn't post this intending to ruin your day. You can see my post count and gather from it that I don't spend days posting pointless questions. If I came across a solution that worked, this post wouldn't exist.
Try a different radio(2.11.50.20) seems to be doing good for me, also try copying your files to a better SD card. And there is a tab under Setting>Home>>Items that says Home Timeout: 4 Hrs... try unchecking that box. I am new to the HD2 also and trying to tweak it just right so it stops turning off in the middle of the night and making me late for work cause no alarm lol
Earlier, my G2 shut off on me about 5 times. -_-
First, I had it sitting in the car ,tried to take a pic but the stupid voice recognition menu kept coming up so I gave up and set it down in the console. When I got home, the phone felt warm and was.. off.
Then, I turned it on.. stuffed it in my pocket. A moment later, I pulled it out and YET AGAIN when I pushed the button I was greeted by a quick vibe and the HTC screen -_-
Then a few minutes later I ran a speed test (checking HSPA+ out in Vegas).. put it down on the table.. come back.. PHONE IS *(@#% DEAD AGAIN.
I HATE YOU! *glares at phone*
It's killing me because it either happens several times in a row, or doesn't happen for days! I've tried replacing the sim card, replacing the SD card.. moving the battery... no dice.
Maybe it's my SIM card? Would that cause it? My last phone did that -_- And I'm silly to have not yet changed the SIM lol
Good thing I have a spare sitting in my bag.
What battery are you using? Aftermarket? Is so, did you remove the sticker around the battery? If you did then make sure you place a piece of tape on the battery to avoid making contact with the metal sd card holder. The metal on metal causes it to shut down.
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Interesting. I've also been having random shutdowns (not reboots, which I've seen mentioned elsewhere, due to a hardware fault) --
HTC Desire Z, using default battery, but I'll try isolating it anyway with a slip of paper or something.
OP you on a custom rom with overclock? maybe your clocking your phone too high or low?
Also if the phone for whatever reason gets too hot or cold it will turn itself off.
Please see this forum: Phone powers down and won't turn back on w/o pulling the battery
I strongly believe that this may be an issue with the GPS and/or Google Maps. Once I have the GPS off, this has not occurred. Can anyone else try this?
I have the Bell Desire Z NAM with stock HTC Sense 2.2 ROM.
It seems to be quite prevalent, see the bottom of this review: T-Mobile G2 is speedy sequel to original Android
I think you may be onto something with that GPS note, but my phone doesnt' need the battery pulled to restart.
Also, it's running the stock firmware, stock battery (just exchanged battery and got a new SIM card yesterday, and it shut off again today.. so those aren't the problem)... so any issues I'm having are 100% stock related...
This time it shut off after using Maps so....
i read somewhere (trying to find the source) that some G2's were experiencing random restarts / shutdowns due to low signal strength. Not sure how valid this is but you might want to look into this as well.
fablife said:
i read somewhere (trying to find the source) that some G2's were experiencing random restarts / shutdowns due to low signal strength. Not sure how valid this is but you might want to look into this as well.
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This was true before we received the first OTA update. Since then though the problem has been fixed.
I think it was definitely the GPS, that said I just got done with a really long phone call about this and have a replacement on the way.. but that was way too much effort AND I have to pay shipping (it's not much, but seriously.) I'm not happy that T-Mobile was THAT big a pain in the butt about getting the phone replaced with a new one in the 30 day return period.
Going by the pointers one of my close friends on sprint (that used to be on AT&T) gave me, I'd say this could've been worse with another provider.. but it shouldn't have been. The reception isn't the best so the customer service should make up for that, and it sorta does.. but it sorta doesn't.
Oh well.
I have been experiencing almost the same thing for the past week or so. I have tried a few things such as lowering clock speeds, changing roms, and not using maps or GPS. Nothing has stopped the shutdowns. I cant seem to find a pattern in the things the phone is doing when it shuts off because it rarely does it when i have the screen on, also it never does it if music is playing or if i am watching a video. I will say that it seems to happen alot when i am in spots i know are dead spots for phone signal. I flash roms a fair amount so it is hard to say this has started after flashing a rom, but I will say it never did this before I flashed my first sensui 3.0 rom.
I am thinking its one of two things, something with the radio and/or its firmware or something with the sdcard because at least one senseui 3.0 rom said something about sdcard formatting.
I hope all this helps the smart people come up with idea on what wrong with our phones.
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I have been experiencing almost the same thing for the past week or so. I have tried a few things such as lowering clock speeds, changing roms, and not using maps or GPS. Nothing has stopped the shutdowns. I cant seem to find a pattern in the things the phone is doing when it shuts off because it rarely does it when i have the screen on, also it never does it if music is playing or if i am watching a video. I will say that it seems to happen alot when i am in spots i know are dead spots for phone signal. I flash roms a fair amount so it is hard to say this has started after flashing a rom, but I will say it never did this before I flashed my first sensui 3.0 rom.
I am thinking its one of two things, something with the radio and/or its firmware or something with the sdcard because at least one senseui 3.0 rom said something about sdcard formatting.
I hope all this helps the smart people come up with idea on what wrong with our phones.
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My Desire Z had the same problem and I returned it to HTC Service for repair. They said they change some cables? and a new battery. It has been nearly 3 days and I haven't experienced a single shutdown but there was one time it restarted by itself.
Yeah my only problem with that is, I am close to my upgrade date. How much did it cost. I may still do it so I can give this phone to my kid brother.
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Just to update, I found that I can make it do it some times when playing with opening the hinge.
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Possible cause/fix found
I posted this in another thread here regarding the same problem but it appears it may have been overlooked so I'll post the info again in hopes of helping you and others having this problem.
A possible cause/fix has been found as posted on the T-mobile forums:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobile-G2/G2-Turning-off-by-itself/td-p/513575/page/4
There is a conductive metal strip along the back of the battery that looks like it may be shorting out. Check out the link for detailed fix with pics. I take no credit for this, just posting it since I'm experiencing this problem too.
Talked to tmobile CS today and was trying to get a replacement because my phone would randomly reboot and shut off. All he told me was go and pick up a new sim card. If that didn't help then they would be willing to give me a warranty replacement.
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carquote said:
I posted this in another thread here regarding the same problem but it appears it may have been overlooked so I'll post the info again in hopes of helping you and others having this problem.
A possible cause/fix has been found as posted on the T-mobile forums:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/T-Mobi.../513575/page/4
There is a conductive metal strip along the back of the battery that looks like it may be shorting out. Check out the link for detailed fix with pics. I take no credit for this, just posting it since I'm experiencing this problem too.
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Clicking your link all I got was an empty T-Mobile page with the message "Page not found" and some some java script error message when closing the window.
Is this possible fix something else than lining the back of the battery with a strip of paper?
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Clicking your link all I got was an empty T-Mobile page with the message "Page not found" and some some java script error message when closing the window.
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Sorry about that, I fixed the link and it should be working now.
Cool, thanks!
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I'm pretty sure mine is not caused by the metal strip since my battery's all proofed. I didn't have anything wrong with it until about half a month ago, and it always happened after using GPS and left it on. If I turn it off after navigation or any other app that requires GPS the phone won't go into SOD.
I switched back to CM7 RC2 around that time and starting to get the GPS no fix problem, and it could't be fixed by the dd=/dev/.... script. So I switched into Nightly 88 or something that at least I was able to get a fix but the not-so-random freezing started.
This morning I flashed the new 7.1.0 RC1 and the phone would just turn itself off (it used to just freeze and become hot), and I got really tired of it... My old G1 was much more reliable than this.
I tried the dd=/dev script again, so far after 5 min the phone is still on with GPS on....
@carcuote
Thank you! I haven't had this issue for months now. But the solution is so easy to do that I will try our anyways.
I had this issue the first month our so when I got the new phone, but went away permanently after the second month. Maybe the contacts in the battery got a little rusted? Don't know but the solution is simple enough to try...
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Hi Moderators,
Please feel to delete or move this thread, if you find it repetitive. Apologies for starting a new thread.
Hi All,
I have a unique issue with my Nexus one. Sometimes it fails to reboot and then does not start even pressing power button multiple times. Sometimes it starts but then screen does not come up after the display time expires. Whenever it is ON, power button works good, ALWAYS. When it goes into the weird state, I am not able to put it in recovery mode as well. Whenever, I am able to put it in recovery mode, power button ALWYAS works good. Also I have seen that sometimes, even after boot-up it is not able to detect the SD card even when battery is at around 30%.
I have tried all the methods I could find related to "Nexus One power issue" here on XDA as well as via Google search. Sometimes the "remove battery multiple times while plugged into AC" works but at times it also does not help either.
I visited the local HTC service station. The guy there showed me that the small strip of Litmus paper on battery and phone has turned reddish. For normal phone it should be white. This indicates that phone was in contact with something acidic in nature. I tried swapping batteries with my friends and colleagues, but no luck. I have replaced the power button strip of my phone which seems to be trouble some as per the discussions here.
I have tried CM7.x, RCADS, MM super hybrid, eVil's desire port and of course stock 2.3.x ROMs. All seem to have similar issue one or another time. I have also tried Amon_RA's 2.2.0 and 2.2.1. Somebody told me to try with CM6.1 which I will try now if I am able to boot it in recovery.
My warranty is long gone, BTW. Also I bought my phone from US and it is not possible for me to go there again in near future. This issue cropped up approximately 3/4 weeks back. I have default radio.
Having said that, does anybody know what could be the issue with my phone? Has anyone faced such an issue?
chota_shivaji said:
Hi Moderators,
Please feel to delete or move this thread, if you find it repetitive. Apologies for starting a new thread.
Hi All,
I have a unique issue with my Nexus one. Sometimes it fails to reboot and then does not start even pressing power button multiple times. Sometimes it starts but then screen does not come up after the display time expires. Whenever it is ON, power button works good, ALWAYS. When it goes into the weird state, I am not able to put it in recovery mode as well. Whenever, I am able to put it in recovery mode, power button ALWYAS works good. Also I have seen that sometimes, even after boot-up it is not able to detect the SD card even when battery is at around 30%.
I have tried all the methods I could find related to "Nexus One power issue" here on XDA as well as via Google search. Sometimes the "remove battery multiple times while plugged into AC" works but at times it also does not help either.
I visited the local HTC service station. The guy there showed me that the small strip of Litmus paper on battery and phone has turned reddish. For normal phone it should be white. This indicates that phone was in contact with something acidic in nature. I tried swapping batteries with my friends and colleagues, but no luck. I have replaced the power button strip of my phone which seems to be trouble some as per the discussions here.
I have tried CM7.x, RCADS, MM super hybrid, eVil's desire port and of course stock 2.3.x ROMs. All seem to have similar issue one or another time. I have also tried Amon_RA's 2.2.0 and 2.2.1. Somebody told me to try with CM6.1 which I will try now if I am able to boot it in recovery.
My warranty is long gone, BTW. Also I bought my phone from US and it is not possible for me to go there again in near future. This issue cropped up approximately 3/4 weeks back. I have default radio.
Having said that, does anybody know what could be the issue with my phone? Has anyone faced such an issue?
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Hi Moderators,
Apologies for posting this thread in this sub-forum. I forgot that question threads should be in Q&A section. Having said that, if its not too much to ask, can you please move this thread to Nexus One's Q&A sub-forum?
Just update d firmware wit any of the ones which r available here...m pretty sure this ll solve yor issue as I think its related to software not hardware...
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Firmware update lol seriously ...try updating your radio to the 5.08 or 5.12 then flashing a stock rom and go from there
shreyasvb said:
Just update d firmware wit any of the ones which r available here...m pretty sure this ll solve yor issue as I think its related to software not hardware..
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Firmware update lol seriously ...try updating your radio to the 5.08 or 5.12 then flashing a stock rom and go from there
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Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I somehow manage to put my Nexus one in recovery mode by pressing power + volume down buttons multiple times. Then flashed the radio 5.08 on it. I already have CM 7.x ROM.
With this combination, my phone is working good so far. The power down issue would have reoccured by now. So it looks like my issue is resolved. I will use it for 24 more hours and come back if I am able to hit the power down issue again.
Once again thanks for the suggestions. As usual, XDA rocks. Had been experiencing this since good old Windows Mobile + HTC Touch days :-D.
chota_shivaji said:
Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I somehow manage to put my Nexus one in recovery mode by pressing power + volume down buttons multiple times. Then flashed the radio 5.08 on it. I already have CM 7.x ROM.
With this combination, my phone is working good so far. The power down issue would have reoccured by now. So it looks like my issue is resolved. I will use it for 24 more hours and come back if I am able to hit the power down issue again.
Once again thanks for the suggestions. As usual, XDA rocks. Had been experiencing this since good old Windows Mobile + HTC Touch days :-D.
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I tested my Nexus one for past approx ~36 hours. In this time, I was hit by the issue mentioned in this thread twice.
Out of those 2, 1 was probably caused due to a soft reboot as I was able to get some output from cat /proc/last_kmsg but could not save it for sharing. The other one did not had last_kmsg entry so I am not sure what caused the phone to go haywire. The battery charge was ~30% when I booted it next time.
Now, I am on CM 7.x stable + 5.08 radio + Amon_Ra' 2.0.0 recovery and I explicitly have wiped the cache and Dalvik-cache via recovery. Since then, phone seems to be working OK. I will keep this thread updated if I am again able to get into the "Not able to power-on with power button" issue.
***TL;DR***I know now that 4.3 has this bug and it is something we will deal with. I understand the causes, but the problem is buried in the kernel vs the ROM, you can still read my semi adventure but I wanted to make this edit to save you time if you think I found an answer. Overall WIFI is a huge trigger for screen wakes along with shotty or chattery reception.***
First off SlimBean is pretty much the best ROM I've dealt with, so many options, faster then I've ever experienced, and sharp looking. I've been sharking around these forums for 2 years afraid to ever make a name and post due to my lack of knowledge. I love the search options for finding answers that this forum offers to visitors and I've surely used it to root an old AT&T Atrix 4G and now my current DD the Glacier. Now I feel as though I have a little bit of sense of what the heck I am doing and would like to share my path to figuring out how to make SlimBean 4.3 work for me. Who knows maybe this may help some people that have similar problems.
The problem::: On a SEMI clean install of [UNOFFICIAL]SlimBean 4.3 \\ Nightly \\ 22.08.2013 I noticed the Glacier in standby would suddenly illuminated with light although the screen was black. It was enough to light to catch my eyes as I was starting to fall asleep. I ignored it until morning then paid attention to it happening all day at work on and off constantly with the WIFI off and just mobile network, then mobile network off, reboot, nothing seemed to help and I couldn't bare the thought of the phone's screen just on all the time.
After reading threads about HTC's possibly having bad screen made from Taiwan I was in disbelief that it was the Hardware as coming from a year old version of MIUI, I never had a problem with the screen. Leading to the idea it must be a software issue / user issue in which I must of rushed the install of the ROM or it's a quirk in 4.3.
Prior to reinstalling the same ROM, I went with trying other similar ROM's finding [UNOFFICIAL] Carbon 4.3 \\ Nightly \\ 26.08.2013 literally was just released, also a super customizable fast ROM. Everything went smooth until I played music through headphones and the illuminated black screen was back. Now I'm definitely convinced it's the software so I move on to the source code of these ROM's ev_glacier-nightly-2013.08.27.
Ev_glacier-nightly-2013.08.27 Had no screen wakes after 2 hours idle on mobile network only. I wasn't in a location with WIFI as I believe a network with a lot of information chatter may be causing these standby black illumination wakes. Back to SLIM.
SUPER clean install. 1) Format SD card completely 2) fresh download w/ checked md5 of Slimbean 3) Full Wipe "wipe data factory reset" "wipe cache" 4) format/system & format/cache manually just in case 5) Clear Dalvik 6) And fix permissions since although I believe it has no point but it's just so easy to click just in case. Probably doing things double.
Here I am now.. Slimbean is back and nothing but the .zip has been installed along with updating Nova Launcher. I am waiting to reinstall GAPPS so I can first isolate this problem within the ROM itself. What I am noticing is on just mobile network 2g/3g/2g+3g I do not get the phantom wakes, but with WIFI on it so far is only happening about 20-30 seconds after the phone drops into Standby and at least now it's not long lasting, just a few screen black flashes and it's gone. The entire 20 minutes or so I've been typing this, keeping an eye on the screen it's been quiet. Progress is being made.
Now I have thoroughly read up on and used Better Battery Stats, Wakelock detector, and Greenify to help isolate problems prior to the clean install and am waiting to install any Google apps (play store) up until tomorrow so I can pay more attention to my phone and make sure it's just a WIFI wake lock causing the screen to illuminate black. Also was toying with the idea of installing 3.0.64 kernel. I'm curious as to see if it's not just the WIFI wake lock, but all wake locks that actually wake the screen. Once I'm ready to install the play store I'm going to start combing through the device using these fantastic guides and the aforementioned apps...
[GUIDE] The Total Newb's Guide to Wakelocks ::: [HOW TO] Fix Your Skyrocket's Battery Life ::: [GUIDE] Insanely Better Battery Life When Idle
My goal with this long post is to share my experience and also commended these developers on these awesome ROM's. I will post much shorter updates on how I fixed or found the exact problem. Mainly after searching I saw similar issues but not this direct "random black illuminated screen" problem. Thanks, and be sure to call me out on anything contained in this post.
the waiting game
At 9 hours from 100% charge, I'm at 40% battery with on 1.5 hours of screen time. I went through all my settings and disabled all sounds and haptic feed back. I have yet to install any apps and am running off the bare bones of just the ROM. WiFi & 4g mobile data were on all night with the screen flashing only if I used it then locked it with the power button.
Thinking I can live with these timeout 2-5 flashes, I start browsing the forum from my phone, put it down to get ready for work, look back at the phone as it is flashing black screen rampantly on it's own. Then it holds the black screen for a solid minute or two.
WiFi chatter wake lock must be doing this... Reboot to recovery - wipe dalvik - wipe cache - reboot phone. Now to test just 4g network, flash happens on first screen lock, but not as rampant. Hmmm. My next step will be to wait for full battery drain / charge then I want to try the kernal I mentioned above. 3.0.64 kernel.
Funny stuff
Realizing the Kernel I wanted to flash doesn't work with 4.3, I hope at least some of the 86 people that viewed my post got a laugh. Even the older version of SlimBean causes the random screen flashes and the screen on while charging even with the ROM settings for such off. WiFi seems to be the greatest cause. It's as if wakelocks are actually being represented as screen flashes since the kernel is so powerful.
I just don't want to use the CM ROM...
I'm going to dig around the forums further and type in different key words of my problem just to make sure I didn't miss someone already answering this question. Slim has all the functions I always wanted out of my droid and I'm dead set to make it work...or just live with screen flashes I guess.
Hope this is a comedy for someone.
only other link
I've found on the issue I have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1148057
Non-Stop ROMS
1) SlimBean 4.2 & 4.3 Both have this black screen flicker / black screen wake / black screen on while charging.
2) Carbon 4.3 Had it black screen on while listening to music / black screen constant while charging
3) Evolve 3.3 based of 4.3 seemed to work fine, but I wasn't a fan of the larger Icons and screen, similair to CM 4.3 so I didn't leave it long enough to test...
4.3 CM 4.3 black screen wake almost constant / black screen on while charging... also didn't last long to really test everything.
I am down the river if I want this to just go away. I have installed all these ROM on a completey clean formated SD card each time
I'm sticking with SlimBean as it has the looks and reacts like I expect my phone to. After doing some more searching and after a little time has passed for more 4.3 development there may be a kernel that will work better for me.
Oh here is another dead end I've found... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2185747&page=3 [KERNEL] Fixed the flickering screen problem,CM10,CM10.1,SENSE3.6 4.0 4.1 That goes no where...
wifi
WiFi is the biggest culprit for the random screen wakes. I've just been living with it since I dig the slimbean 4.3 ROM so much. Thought I might pop back on here to make some closure. I worked on removing some apk's from the already minimal gapps I installed and will soon start a separate thread on just that. As long as after searching I don't find the same info I figured out.
I think you've got the screen flicker bug.
Try flashing the .69 kernel, it claims to stop the flicker.
Also I know it's got something to do with the WiFi. I know a little about it though.
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thanks for the response
N_otori0us_ said:
I think you've got the screen flicker bug.
Try flashing the .69 kernel, it claims to stop the flicker.
Also I know it's got something to do with the WiFi. I know a little about it though.
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I see you all over the place when it comes to Glacier threads. Today at work I was searching around for a download link. I read through a ton of other ROMS threads hoping it was buried in the comments somewhere. So far I only turned up and old thread with a dead link and a couple of other threads you mentioning to other people to download the .69 KERNEL which I am guessing the full version number is 3.0.69, if it's not then there may be my first problem in finding the link...
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this is the main thread I keep finding, you have so many other kernels on there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43983635&highlight=+69#post43983635
I have a little idea about the screen flicker.
A member called zyGh0st told me. I've pmed Elgin but no response.
I'll pm coderzs too Lil.
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reading about kernals
N_otori0us_ said:
I have a little idea about the screen flicker.
A member called zyGh0st told me. I've pmed Elgin but no response.
I'll pm coderzs too Lil.
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All the Kernels in the Glacier Bible page you have been keeping up seem old. I'm nervous to try one since they obviously seem like they won't work. I'm game to try what ever and post on here my progress so if anyone else stumbles upon the issue they can guide their way through it.
I've been searching "kernel 3.0.69", "kernels 4.3 roms", "jb rom kernel", "4.3 jb kernel", sometimes including the term "glacier" or "MT4G" with little to no luck between XDA and just google itself. I always just find ROMS that just mention the kernel but have no downloads.
Reading your older posts I see that youve already tried the kernel.
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K is for kernel
N_otori0us_ said:
Reading your older posts I see that youve already tried the kernel.
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I tried 3.0.64 kernel, not this mysterious .69 kernel you have mentioned. If you have a link or mirror of it I'll be glad to give it a go.
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Found how you added the 2 kernels to the Bible page, I just flashed .64 again and I'm nothing but bootloops. I'll give .62 a chance since now I'll have to re-flash Slim.
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make the double bootloops with either of those 2 kernels. I waited like 5 minutes, restarted the phone to see if it would boot and it just stayed on the slim splash screen. Of course I wiped dalvik and cache before installing either.
Bottom of your 5th post
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addiction
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Oh yes, I head that already downloaded on the SD but the name CM_SENSE made me think it was a ROM not a kernel. The .66 kernel link is dead, but the .58 flashed & works but there is still the flicker on 4.22 SlimBean. 4.22 is so lame compared to 4.3. Even if there wasn't a flicker on 4.22 I don't think I'd keep it. Those big ICONS are just too much. I think that's why I like Carbon also. Anywho...
My addiction to messing with my phone is always in conflict with work. As if I don't have enough problem solving to deal with outside of cell phones.
I am going to try out the recovery I see in your signature, Recovery : 4EXT 1.0.0.5 RC8, just to see if it makes a difference. If you have the same phone without the same problem I must then eliminate the different variables to find the true problem. I found a "how to" and am either going to put in the time in a couple of hours or tonight. Then I'm going to start the rounds of testing ROMS / KERNELS all over again and I'll post my findings here.
I appreciate the back and forth, I actually got a can't thank anymore message because I used up my 8 yesterday~
Living with it
I've been just living with the screen flash. The ROM is just to sweet to give up. At some point if there it a completely stable 4.3 I may upgrade.
On a regular work day I don't have any available WIFI, so I toggle it off then reboot the phone every morning. I usually get a random screen flash everytime I manually lock / turn the screen off and that's it. With WIFI on I get random flashes at random rates and for random lengths.
Playing music invokes these random black screen wakes also, I've stuck to my old blackberry as my MP3 player...I know that statement seems extemely wrong and against all sciences, but the 9780 bold works perfect as a music player. They had the long-press song skip in the volume button well before anyone added it to Android.
If ever I find the correct ROM / KERNEL combination, or someone else figures out the problem and I find it, I will post it here. This winter I am going to get more into understanding & compiling roms + digging through code so maybe I'll find it myself...ha!
tonyMEGAphone said:
I've been just living with the screen flash. The ROM is just to sweet to give up. At some point if there it a completely stable 4.3 I may upgrade.
On a regular work day I don't have any available WIFI, so I toggle it off then reboot the phone every morning. I usually get a random screen flash everytime I manually lock / turn the screen off and that's it. With WIFI on I get random flashes at random rates and for random lengths.
Playing music invokes these random black screen wakes also, I've stuck to my old blackberry as my MP3 player...I know that statement seems extemely wrong and against all sciences, but the 9780 bold works perfect as a music player. They had the long-press song skip in the volume button well before anyone added it to Android.
If ever I find the correct ROM / KERNEL combination, or someone else figures out the problem and I find it, I will post it here. This winter I am going to get more into understanding & compiling roms + digging through code so maybe I'll find it myself...ha!
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Have fun man, and If you ever need help or guidance just tell us, we'll be here