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Update: We Have Root!!! and it works!

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unrEVOked forever v1.1 is now available. S-ON, more EVO radios and CDMA Hero: http://unrevoked.com/forever
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Amazing work from Sebastian Krahmer. His latest exploit also works on Froyo 2.2 on the EVO: http://c-skills.blogspot.com/
Looks like we now have what we have all been waiting for.
Update: I Followed the last link I shared on here for the guide and have successfully rooted my evo. So if you want your evo rooted go the the development forum and follow the guide. but here's the link again if you need it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765496

i was thinking this as well.. but thinking about it further.. unrevoked rorever requires a custom recovery to be installed first. to get that custom recovery you need to run unrevoked 3. unrevoked 3 still has the disclaimer: Unrevoked 3 does NOT work on Stock Froyo (Android 2.2) Phones
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Yeah, little skeptical still.. Wish I wasn't at work, I'd try it out.

It looks like unrevoked found the exploit to get into the phone now and then you have the programs to run it. They will probably update something to show us how to do it all together.
But they found out how to get in that's all that matters.

So from what I'm understanding is the new way to root the droid 2 is the same exploit that works for the evo and will work.
Here's the thread for the droid 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764950
So from what I understand is if you follow those instructions it should work.

@unrevoked
If you're desperate to root an EVO with Froyo, watch this space for a downgrade/unrevoked^3/unrevoked forever method: http://bit.ly/dg2Fu4

nice ill wait until this method is thoroughly tested on the evo, but glad to see 2.2 rooted!

DAMN! This will lower the value of my EVO when I go to sell it in about a week. Booooo!

Great, now I can send by mine back for replacement since my 4g keys are borked.
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@guitarjockey
Bro, noticed you've posted a few links should I follow them in any order or does it matter?

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Bro, noticed you've posted a few links should I follow them in any order or does it matter?
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Follow the last link I posted under the update on the first post.

not to sound ignorant, but what does this new root entail ? caz i have evo (came with 2.1) did root it with unrevoked forever and have been using custom froyo roms. currently i am using fresh evo 3.1.0.2.
so back to my original question, what does this new root do? is it just for the new evos which comes preloaded with 2.2?
thanx

It works great! A little lengthy but well worth it!

All it is.. is to make root for people who had 2.2 froyo or had it installed when bought.. brings it back to 2.1 so you can root your evo.
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thax martyzidek. thats what i thought. just wanted to make sure i wast missing anything. still kinda new to android. thank you

martyzidek said:
All it is.. is to make root for people who had 2.2 froyo or had it installed when bought.. brings it back to 2.1 so you can root your evo.
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Thanks for covering that for me, I just saw there was posts here.

No problem.. I'm new also.. just finally been able to get root.. stuck on what Rom to get.. still confused on that..
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Stock Evo Froyo 2.2
I just tried it and it does work just follow the instructions works perfectly dont worry about it does work

Since I didn't want to unrevoke and have full access I actually used the step tell it asked for me to unrevoke so my phone was on 2.1 and then I went for another rooting option for 2.1 and it all worked and I'm not on the CM6 nightly. It is wonderful and it's amazing how much more I can do now.

Root now or wait for froyo?

Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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Joshochoa187 said:
Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
Sent from my vibrant while I'm working. I love my job
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Rooting isn't hard at all. You should go ahead & root now

+1 on the root now. While your at it install a custom rom and you will love your phone. Odds are you can get the Froyo update right here before it hits OTA anyways.

Yeah I've rooted my vibrant before I had to get a new one. It is easy but I would probably have to un root it to update right?
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I don't understand what waiting would do. What you should NOT do is get the Froyo update from T-Mobile, as there is a chance that they will push an update that breaks your ability to root with 2.2 and you will have to wait even longer.
I recommended you root now, install Rom Manager, go to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813001
Download Fusion 1.1 to your SDCARD (I have a folder called ROMS) and go to Clockwork, reboot into Recovery, Reinstall Packages, Install ZIP from SDCARD, choose Bionix 1.1, wait, and then see what that phone is really capable of.
Using Fusion 1.1 makes me not mind waiting for Froyo.

Yeah you are right it's just I haven't got to comfortable w/ flashing roms just yet. Looks a bit hard I guess I will just keep watching the videos on it till I feel like I can do it
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Flashing roms is super easy as long as you're using ones flashable through rom manager. I must warn you it's very addictive. The only thing I would say is make your you backup in case something goes wrong and avoid Voodoo until you've flashed a few times and feel more comfortable. Great thing is there is tons of support here. I suggest you try Bionix Final.

Well guys I'm pretty convinced I think im going to do it I'm going to look into it thanx alot for your input
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I should still be able to root even tho I did the recent ota right?
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Joshochoa187 said:
I should still be able to root even tho I did the recent ota right?
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Yes you can.

Joshochoa187 said:
Well guys I'm pretty convinced I think im going to do it I'm going to look into it thanx alot for your input
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Dooo eeet!
Yes, it's daunting at first to flash a new ROM, but I just did it for the first time a few weeks ago and it was simple and easy. Just read up as much as you can and then write up a "roadmap" on all the steps you need to take, before, during, and after. It removed a lot of headaches for me because I planned it all out and had all the software ready in case anything went wrong (Odin, stock ROM, etc.). If there are any gaps in your understanding or questions about a process, ask them here before you flash!

I would root it and load a custom ROM, waiting for official OTA update to Froyo is like playing a Russian roulette now. Look what a simple update that was suppsoed to address GPS and other issues did to your fellow TMO users.
As always, there will be people who wouldn't even know that you can root the device to make it your own, so they will always run stock, and complain to TMO when they click MobiTV app and never use it, but have to cough up 10 bucks a month for it (it is just an example).
If you came here you know that you can do something to your phone besides waiting for Froyo, take a full advantage of what is offered in the dev section, and don't forget to support the developers if you like the work they do

Ok I'm reading the thread you posted how do I preform nandroid back up?
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Joshochoa187 said:
Hey guys I just got my vibrant back and I was wondering if I should root it, or just wait for froyo to release?
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If you are going to root, you might as well just do it.
Froyo could easily be 2-3 months down the road yet.

you need ROM manager...
it took me forever to find a how-to on this exact thing.
You have to be rooted in order to accomplish this:
1. root (obviously)
2. download ROM manager
3. open ROM manager and click on 'Flash ClockworkMod Recovery' and pick your phone.
4. click 'Backup Current ROM'
5. Let it do it's thing... it's going to reboot and run in recovery then reboot again.
6. You are done!!
To recover, you have to boot into clockwork recovery and click restore then pick the date file you made to recover to that date!
** If any of this is wrong, please call me out!!

Yeah, I started doing all this before I even discovered ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery. Those tools definitely make everything so much easier.
Make sure you have the following software tools:
ADB
Odin
Rom Manager (w/ ClockworkMod Recovery installed)
Titanium Backup
Also, make sure your phone is not hardware locked before you begin. Try the standard procedure to enter Recovery Mode; if your phone is hardware locked, run the flashable fix (found in the dev forum) so that you have some way of recovering from a soft brick.

From my experiences, rooting has always been the fastest way to get updates. Those rollouts take forever.

Just rooted and installed fusion 1.1 it's great thanx for the tips guys
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Joshochoa187 said:
Just rooted and installed fusion 1.1 it's great thanx for the tips guys
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Way to go!
Sent from my bionix powered Vibrant

lol. i was waiting for a froyo release, i flashed my g1 a bunch so flashing wasn't a big deal, but i was happy with the phone stock for a bit and didn't mind waiting. but i rooted after a week. was flashing smaller things like ji2 gps, getting rid of bloatware, changing bootup/shutdown, etc. a couple weeks later. and a couple weeks after that i started flashing roms.
moral of the story? just root and start flashing now, it's a long wait.

New to android, have a couple of quick ROM related questions.

I'm new to the Android experience and I'm loving it so far. But I wanted to ask about ROM's. I understand they're a modified version of the android OS (no?). What I wanted to is that if you needed an external storage to install a ROM on your phone. If so whats the minimum size? Also does adeo work with 4.1.57? or are we still waiting for a developer to release an update?
Thanks for any sort of help you can can give me =)

you do not need any extra space, it replaces the existing software/build.
However, the likelyhood that you will see any true ROMs for this phone are close to zero. The real thing to realize is that you really don't need them. Unless you like modding your phone for fun, or overclocking, or whatever it isn't needed. You can mod a lot of stuff with just root, and honestly most of the stuff people want, can be done without whole new ROMs.
as far as adeo, no idea, check the thread on it. Never touched it myself.

I'm trying to get GingerBlur on my phone, apparantly I am required to have adeo for that.

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I'm trying to get GingerBlur on my phone, apparantly I am required to have adeo for that.
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Why do people think that? You do NOT need Adeo for Gingerblur. How did your get that idea????
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xecure said:
I'm new to the Android experience and I'm loving it so far. But I wanted to ask about ROM's. I understand they're a modified version of the android OS (no?). What I wanted to is that if you needed an external storage to install a ROM on your phone. If so whats the minimum size? Also does adeo work with 4.1.57? or are we still waiting for a developer to release an update?
Thanks for any sort of help you can can give me =)
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Adeo and gingerblur do not work on 1.57 there is a way to deodex 1.57 and I think they're working on or already have the recovery/reboot options available for 1.57 also I believe Ken is working on gingerblur to work on 1.57 as far as ROMs with the CWM there might be ROM development in the near future using the current kernel
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drock212 said:
Adeo and gingerblur do not work on 1.57 there is a way to deodex 1.57 and I think they're working on or already have the recovery/reboot options available for 1.57 also I believe Ken is working on gingerblur to work on 1.57 as far as ROMs with the CWM there might be ROM development in the near future using the current kernel
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Thanks, I'll be waiting for 1.57's version of ginger blur

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I'm trying to get GingerBlur on my phone, apparantly I am required to have adeo for that.
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GingerBlur 1.1 works on 1.5.7. However, you need the bootstrap recovery apk from the Android Dev section. The Gingerblur installer auto-deodexes your phone. However, you need an SD card to put GingerBlur on
This phone doesn't need all of the ROMs people want. It's a super fast phone, even without overclocking. My other two phones, the Captivate and Inspire, needs to be modded to function well. Says a lot about the quality of the devices
The true ROMs (Cyanogen, Cognition, Serendipity, whatever else there is) might never, ever be usable on this phone. This device has a signed bootloader, and we can't install custom kernels while it is signed. One of the only ways we might get around this is if Motorola pulls their heads out of their asses.

PixoNova said:
GingerBlur 1.1 works on 1.5.7. However, you need the bootstrap recovery apk from the Android Dev section. The Gingerblur installer auto-deodexes your phone. However, you need an SD card to put GingerBlur on
This phone doesn't need all of the ROMs people want. It's a super fast phone, even without overclocking. My other two phones, the Captivate and Inspire, needs to be modded to function well. Says a lot about the quality of the devices
The true ROMs (Cyanogen, Cognition, Serendipity, whatever else there is) might never, ever be usable on this phone. This device has a signed bootloader, and we can't install custom kernels while it is signed. One of the only ways we might get around this is if Motorola pulls their heads out of their asses.
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Is there any threads that go over how to install bootstrap recovery? How large does my SD card need to be?

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Is there any threads that go over how to install bootstrap recovery? How large does my SD card need to be?
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I would recommend at least 4 GB. Anything less will probably get filled up quite quickly. I bought mine from buy.com for an extremely cheap price. Hell, you can get a 16GB for ~$20 on Newegg.
This is the link to the CWM recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1019143
You need to have sideloading enabled. That isn't hard, just follow this second link to root and update to 1.5.7 correctly.
You need to be rooted, and at 1.5.7. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
This is a guide to getting root on the newest update. This is the direction you must use:
1.2.6 SBF Flash -> Root 1.2.6 (using retainroot from the second link) -> update your phone OTA with 1.5.7 -> run the afterupdate.bat from retainroot -> install CWM recovery -> put GingerBlur.zip on SD card -> boot into CWM recovery and install zip from SD card.
It seems complicated, but you'll get used to it.
This si the micro sd card I purchased: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ..._re=16gb_micro_sd_card-_-20-211-379-_-Product
It's a Class 6 - 16GB, for only $28. It's almost criminal not to buy it! Mine works great so far

Epic ROM flashing question

Ok, following instructions on theunlockr.com, I rooted using superoneclick v1.9.1. No problem there, was pretty easy. I backed up everything with mybackup app from the market, and am looking to see what these custom roms are all about. From the same site they have instructions to load a custom rom on your android phone using ROM Manager from the market. While researching that app a bit, I've seen a few posts saying not to use that app on the Epic cause it doesn't always work right. Granted most of the posts I seen were a couple months old, so maybe the app updates since then fixed that. But, also in their instructions, they never said anything about having to do the modem, or partition from rfs to ext. The Viper Trinity rom I was going to flash says "EXT4-RFS DK28 Dual" so I assume it will work with either file system. I'm sot sure which I have. I do know I'm on Froyo EC05 curently. Could I just put the zip in my sd root and flash with rom manager or do I need to get that odin program and do the three button reboot and all that? Do I have to somehow get DK28 on my phone, will it work with EC05? Thanks for your patients. Any info is greatly appreciated.

Don't use a DK28 ROM.

You need to flash the Rom through Clockworkmod, but I don't recommend any DK28 Rom's they are EXTREMELY outdated (based on a Froyo leak from December). Go into the development section and download the newest One Click Root and use that to properly re-root your phone.
If any of that confused you, How-To videos are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009997

063_XOBX said:
You need to flash the Rom through Clockworkmod, but I don't recommend any DK28 Rom's they are EXTREMELY outdated (based on a Froyo leak from December). Go into the development section and download the newest One Click Root and use that to properly re-root your phone.
If any of that confused you, How-To videos are here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009997
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Lol...you bandit, I was just going to drop that link
Anyhow, all those videos are up to date.....watch'em!!!!

cool, thanks. I will watch that. Are there any roms you might recommend? I just seen viper quite a bit, also cyanogen seems to get mentioned a lot. Obviously performance is the main concern. Battery life, over clocked, tether, no bloat, etc. But something with nice features too. Curb appeal I guess you could say.
No as far as re-rooting, should I un-root with the program I used to root, or will the rooter you linked me to just overwrite/re-root what was already done?

Click the link in my signature.
The other popular choices are Bonsai (can't link, easy to find), midNIGHT (dev section), and Viper EB13 (dev section).

Op: paragraphs are your friend...
Sent from Bonsai 7.0.3

Also don't use ROM manager, it does not play well with the Epic.

Awesome! Thank you for the link to the videos. Everything worked with no problems at all.
Tried Midnight, and now currently running Syndicate Fully Loaded. I had flashed the Emotionless Beast theme over Midnight, and will probably put it over Syndicate today. Pretty nice theme. Viper looks pretty sweet but I guess its not ec05 ready yet, and in the video he said Cyanogen isn't quite done yet.
I watched the vid about flashing the Vision kernel and overclocking it. Would that be better than the Twilight kernel that Syndicate comes with?

Midnight is the most stable tom right now... when acs out our their bnext version, that'll be the best rom. By stable I mean tom working without a lot of reflashing an random freezes
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today's OTA update from Sprint - Q&A time!

to hopefully decrease the number of posts from members in the coming days about the new OTA that Sprint/HTC released today (but will not officially "push" to devices until January 24,) I would like to point out some things to new members as well as veterans, as we see this happen every time a new OTA is pushed.
latests news/updates in bold.
flashing lights reminder: IF YOU ARE ROOTED, DO NOT UNROOT TO GET THIS OTA UPDATE FROM SPRINT. YOU WILL LOSE THE ABILITY TO RE ROOT AS REVOLUTIONARY DOES NOT WORK YET WITH THE NEW HBOOT 2.18
1. Number one rule, and i will cap this DO NOT ACCEPT A OTA UPDATE IF YOU ARE ROOTED. it has been said many many times here, and members with rooted phones do it anyways. why risk it???? we all saw the gingerbread debacle last year.
2. New HBoot. it seems the new ota update has a new h-boot, 2.18, and from what it seems and this may remain to be seen 100% it is not unlockable with revolutionary. i can not confirm this personally. EDIT: seems the new 2.18 hboot is preparing the evo4g to be added to the unlock bootloader list at htcdev. we await word on when this might be official from htc. UPDATE: seems Captain_Throwback has a way to get your hboot down to 2.10 to use unrevoked. the process is long but it does work, as I have tested it myself.
http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...18-HBOOT-with-HTCDev-com-No-More-Watermark!-"
4. Why the update? The big part of this update was to remove CIQ from the evo's. yay. There were small improvements to Peep (the htc twitter client) and other various fixes. report of battery life being worse than 4.54 have been reported.
5. So when will my favorite rom be updated to the OTA base? well, we already have a stock rom based on the ota (actually 2!) , it is located here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455340
so this is a start. your favorite rom will be updated by it's developer when the dev has time, last update we had (4.54) we saw a rapid update of roms.
6. Great, so has sense changed at all? No we are still at sense 1.0 sigh.
7. so how about the new kernel? it is now based on htc 2.6.35.10 dated december 21, 20011. Captain_Throwback has extracted the kernel standalone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21654186&postcount=3214
7a. What "hacks" work with the the new stock rom you posted? look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459982
8. i have a question!! well use the search function and see if it has been answered, look here, the Q&A threads, or the dev threads. I hope this will clear down some of the clutter that comes up during this wonderful thing called an OTA update.

I'm far from a sense person, and more seasoned veteran, but good post, and has some good info that people should read. I'd like to believe it'd cut down on threads, but you can't say you didn't try.

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I'm far from a sense person, and more seasoned veteran, but good post, and has some good info that people should read. I'd like to believe it'd cut down on threads, but you can't say you didn't try. :_
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i just want the new members to realize 2/3 their questions can be answered by reading for ten minutes, and may save them major headaches, but your right. we shall get some doozies. lol

brad560 said:
i just want the new members to realize 2/3 their questions can be answered by reading for ten minutes, and may save them major headaches, but your right. we shall get some doozies. lol
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They need to set up like a new user pen where they can only post there for the like 2 days and learn those things. Also, glad you're rom is doing well, know you had a semi uphill battle at the start.
Also, I can't WAIT to see all the 'I just updated, and now I wana root" threads.

interesting
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Awesome post bro.. thank you.

^ great info, thanks brad, no doubt this will help some!
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Thanks Brad I flashed your rom. I'm waiting along with everyone else for the new Radios. I cant wait.

teh roxxorz said:
They need to set up like a new user pen where they can only post there for the like 2 days and learn those things. Also, glad you're rom is doing well, know you had a semi uphill battle at the start.
Also, I can't WAIT to see all the 'I just updated, and now I wana root" threads.
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OMG! I just had nightmare flashbacks of "Root the *****!"

Thanks Brad for the update,its good to know whats going on with our EVO.Looks like sprint has a hardon for stopping developement,but as smart as you guys are,you'll get the HBoot unlocked before long.

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OMG! I just had nightmare flashbacks of "Root the *****!"
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That was a nightmare that needs to just stay a memory. D:

will try to update this with relevant info as it comes along.

Great thread and maybe some of the noobs will read it before thinking the ota update is the next greatest thing.
It will be once the devs get ahold of it and move along updating their great roms.
Thank Brad for the new info,
Long live the Evo 4g.

Seems your rom file host is struggling this morning. I can not dl either version of your ROM, Brad.

Has it been confirmed that it cannot get S-Off with Revolutionary and SuperTool?
Oh how I hope it can be unlocked... If it cannot, then a deluge of root threads will open and I might be driven to insanity.
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tropicalbrit said:
Has it been confirmed that it cannot be rooted with Revolutionary and SuperTool?
Oh how I hope it can be rooted... If it cannot be rooted, then a deluge of threads will open and I might be driven to insanity.
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Cannot since revolutionary doesn't support the hboot with the new ota
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I feel I must chime in here and make some further clarifications.
Tools like unrevoked and Revolutionary do NOT give you root. This is a very common misconception. What these tools DO give you is NAND access (S-OFF).
In order to obtain root, a custom recovery is required to flash a rooted ROM. In order to flash a custom recovery, you must have NAND access (S-OFF).
If your phone has S-OFF, you can run rooted and non-rooted ROMS just the same. It all depends on what ROM you flash. What gives a ROM root access is having superuser permissions. This is achieved with ChainDD's Superuser app which grants a ROM with SU permissions. If a ROM has the Superuser app cooked in, it has root access.
So it goes a little something like this:
unrevoked/revolutionary --> S-OFF
S-OFF --> allows flashing custom recovery
custom recovery --> allows flashing custom ROMs
custom ROMs with SU permissions cooked in --> gives you root
S-OFF and Root are only indirectly related.
If you have S-OFF, you will ALWAYS have the ability to flash ROMs, even the latest newest releases.
Here's a further example, my own personal experience:
I obtained S-OFF over a year ago using unrevoked3, which permanently granted S-OFF. Since then I have applied every radio, hboot, etc as they have been released. Never lost S-OFF.
Now regarding this latest OTA release, #12 (4.67.651.3), here is what I did. I flashed a stock unrooted/unmodified 4.54 rom. I then went into settings->system updates and checked for the new ota. I downloaded the OTA, and APPLIED the OTA. Applying the update flashed the new hboot, the stock recovery, and the new radios, as well as the new stock 4.67.651.3 ROM.
After it fully completed it's process I reflashed the custom recovery. From there I am free to flash any ROM I wish. What I did was took the new rom into the developer kitchen and rooted it. Then flashed it. Viola, I am on rooted 4.67.651.3 with full access. In actuality I'm running my barebones build currently, linked in my sig.
Once you run unrevoked or revolutionary you should never have to again. They give you permanent S-OFF. You'll always have the ability to flash a custom recovery, even if you accept an OTA update, and flash ANY custom ROM.
I hope this post helps people better understand the whole root and NAND security process.

bman3333 said:
Seems your rom file host is struggling this morning. I can not dl either version of your ROM, Brad.
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strange, no problems here, i use dev-host for now, seems it is easier to download there for people in work, etc.

thanks misery for your post. newbies would get confused by all of that, but i still will say to the day i die, lol. do not accept a OTA from sprint if you are rooted. things could go wrong..

brad560 said:
thanks misery for your post. newbies would get confused by all of that, but i still will say to the day i die, lol. do not accept a OTA from sprint if you are rooted. things could go wrong..
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Accepting an OTA does indeed cause you to lose root acces. No arguement there. But it's a simple matter of reflashing a custom recovery and flashing a rooted ROM through recovery and bam back to being rooted.