Wifi Tether working & camera 8mp on froyo with netarchy's kernel - EVO 4G General

Confirmed camera says 3mp but actually takes 8mp photos.
To test yourself just take a picture and then long hold on the photo in gallery and go to Details. The resolution is listed there as 3264x1952
Wifi tether works on 2.0.5 pre-6 from googles website with netarchy's newest kernel

2048x1216 for me.
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woofermazing said:
2048x1216 for me.
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had same issue so i read you flash stock kernal change camera to 8mp then flash back netarchy's kernal

i would rather just wait for the kernel to be fixed as the newest release of wife tether is working well on stock kernal...i use my hdmi out to show off pics of my son to the family so having the 8mp and hdmi with working tether is very important to me...i say we all throw a ton of hookers and beer their way...let them sit back relax a minute and then get crackin on this...they have been working very hard and very diligently to get us this far!!!

rushnatu said:
Confirmed camera says 3mp but actually takes 8mp photos.
To test yourself just take a picture and then long hold on the photo in gallery and go to Details. The resolution is listed there as 3264x1952
Wifi tether works on 2.0.5 pre-6 from googles website with netarchy's newest kernel
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For me is 2048X1216

It already all works (tether and camera) , just says 3mp so no need to wait for a fix...

Yay 4 Juggs said:
i would rather just wait for the kernel to be fixed as the newest release of wife tether is working well on stock kernal...
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Holy crap, forget cyanogenmod! I didnt realize the stock kernel came with a wife tether. I'm flashing that immediately
Just messin with ya Juggs... I couldnt resist with a typo that awesome.

WHY make another topic about this !?

Sporkman said:
WHY make another topic about this !?
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+1 ... and in Development none the less

rushnatu said:
Wifi tether works on 2.0.5 pre-6 from googles website with netarchy's newest kernel
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Why are we concerned with WiFi Tether when hotspot is built into FroYo?

So is Sprint giving away their hotspot for free now?
Hotspot was built into 2.1 also so what are you saying?
Wifi tether is free and works on Froyo so I don't see why you wouldn't want it? I cancelled my Comcast internet and now use tethering exclusively, getting about 120KB/s and I'm happy.

Ok. I have netarchy's latest kernel on his 0-day (well, 1-day now) OTA 2.2 final rooted ROM. Camera works perfectly at 8mp and wireless tether starts and looks like it works well, but i cannot find the SSID anywhere, and i cannot connect through win7 or other wifi devices. Using pre7.
Anyone else had this issue?

Yay 4 Juggs said:
i would rather just wait for the kernel to be fixed as the newest release of wife tether is working well on stock kernal...i use my hdmi out to show off pics of my son to the family so having the 8mp and hdmi with working tether is very important to me...i say we all throw a ton of hookers and beer their way...let them sit back relax a minute and then get crackin on this...they have been working very hard and very diligently to get us this far!!!
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Wife Tether? Any pics? I'm sure some may be intrested in that

ZachPA said:
Ok. I have netarchy's latest kernel on his 0-day (well, 1-day now) OTA 2.2 final rooted ROM. Camera works perfectly at 8mp and wireless tether starts and looks like it works well, but i cannot find the SSID anywhere, and i cannot connect through win7 or other wifi devices. Using pre7.
Anyone else had this issue?
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Ironically, pre7 works with the stock kernel but not the netarchy kernel. So either flash back the stock kernel or install pre6.

I did the kernel but the same camera was working fine but it said 3mp WiFi tether was ok 2.0.5.-6 but what notice was my 3g speed wasn't fast taking an long time loading pages up so WiFi tether was wasn't sending out an signal but have anyone else had these problems
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Updated Wireless Tether file

Just released about a few hours ago - I have it working just fine
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
wireless_tether 2.0.5-pre3
Mule
Thanks to the developer Harald.Mue for his hard work - donate if you like
You do need root for this to work
http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/source/list
looks like only changes are multilingual support and desire compatibility enhancements
still best app there is
yeah small updates, i think i'll keep my current version since its not broken.
Hopefully they make a version to support Froyo. I know it's kinda redundent but I like the interface of wireless tether, and the fact that I can use internet on the phone while i'm tethered, on froyo it locks the phone out of using internet when wifi tether is on.
i still can't get the old wifi tether app to work with my evo. maybe i can get this new version to work
Im with u on this..
IceCreaMan said:
yeah small updates, i think i'll keep my current version since its not broken.
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*This was posted from my Evo 4G using Tapatalkpro! Great app, if you want to browse and post through many dfferent forums*
mrono said:
Hopefully they make a version to support Froyo. I know it's kinda redundent but I like the interface of wireless tether, and the fact that I can use internet on the phone while i'm tethered, on froyo it locks the phone out of using internet when wifi tether is on.
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I am using this new wifi tether and surfing the net on the phone at the same time, dont seem to be having any problem with it. I am running Decks FROYO rom FROM ppcGEEKS.COM.
anyway to make this work if u dont have root? topic creator stated it wasnt necessary however when i installed and ran the program, it said i didnt have the required kernels and that i didnt have root.
oops nevermind.. i read the "do" as "dont" slow morning and havent had my coffee yet
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anyway to make this work if u dont have root? topic creator stated it wasnt necessary however when i installed and ran the program, it said i didnt have the required kernels and that i didnt have root.
oops nevermind.. i read the "do" as "dont" slow morning and havent had my coffee yet
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I love root.

[Q] Need Mobile AP for DK28...

I know that this does not work on DK28 currently, but if anyone could get this to work it would be very helpful. This is the only thing keeping me from going back to 2.2. I need it for one of my computers when im not home. Here is the link for it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785719
The guy said he was gong to look into replacing the sprint mobile hotspot with this. If anyone could do this and possibly include it in there rom then I could go back to 2.2. I have seen a few post of people using 2.1 because they also don't have this for 2.2. I hope there is more interest and we can possibly get this done. I would try but I know nothing about how to do it.
Thanks in advance for anyone that is able to do this, or has interest in it.
FYI - I have gotten every wireless device in my house to see and use this app. (ps3, 3 laptops).
I'm on Mammon's Bonzai ROM and using the Sprint Hotspot app just fine. The only issue I'm having is that 4G drops when I get or make a call while using the hotspot.
zulubushi said:
I'm on Mammon's Bonzai ROM and using the Sprint Hotspot app just fine. The only issue I'm having is that 4G drops when I get or make a call while using the hotspot.
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assuming your paying for the feature as well. Ill take a stab and say he wants a free infrastructure hot spot, which I think as of right now is only possible on 2.1 odexed roms. The original porter of the i9000 ap said hell only port again on am official release. Cyanogen I believe also has it as a possibility, but its not yet working on our port. And the op of that thread says it won't be any time soon.
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Kcarpenter said:
assuming your paying for the feature as well. Ill take a stab and say he wants a free infrastructure hot spot, which I think as of right now is only possible on 2.1 odexed roms. The original porter of the i9000 ap said hell only port again on am official release. Cyanogen I believe also has it as a possibility, but its not yet working on our port. And the op of that thread says it won't be any time soon.
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Thanks for the info was wondering this myself
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Also BTthomas is working on coding the mobile ap to work on 2.2 froyo deodexed roms and said he was making progress but is taking a break for the holidays, so we might see it soon maybe even b4 official froyo but have feeling that once the 2.2 source is out jr might make a new one and bt might have one faster for deodexed roms so ill give it a few months at least and we will probaly have it work on all roms
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Did u try his media fire link at the end of the thread? People say sprint hotspot is there but u probaly have to delete it first?
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Mobile AP Thread Appears the app creator is working on it for us.
I doNt know about for the ps3 but I'm using wireless tether rc2 on froyo and it works great on my iPad and laptop. I had mobile ap before I updated and honestly wireless tether to me is just as fast. I haven't tried it on the ps3 though.
musclehead84 said:
I doNt know about for the ps3 but I'm using wireless tether rc2 on froyo and it works great on my iPad and laptop. I had mobile ap before I updated and honestly wireless tether to me is just as fast. I haven't tried it on the ps3 though.
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Wireless tether crawls in comparison, the loading of web pages on my computer is so slow with wireless tether, plus mobile ap doesn't get my phone hot even when charging, also when u connect multiple compters and devices to wireless tether it crawls more mobile ap I've connected 4 devices on 1x speed and 2 of them were streaming u tube in under a minute of loading, plus mobile ap is so much better looking and not an extra app u have to have its part of your settings and kicks ass plus it works superbly on 4g when wiress tether doesnt...
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Yeah I really dont know to much about it. I only used it like one time. It would be nice to have on froyo but I'm not gonna let that be the reason that I didn't update to froyo.
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well that's my reason I haven't upgraded cuz I need internet for my archos 101 when I'm in the car....I use it as my headunit and it looks nice with last fm. and youtube playing on it...
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Cool thanks for all the info on this. Yes looking for a free alternative. I only need it about once a week for a few minutes. The Google cr-48 only does infrastructure mode. Kinda sucks but I need it when I'm out and there is no wifi. Haven't activated the Verizon 3g built in yet. Just want an alternative to it since I have the phone, but then again I probably wont go through the 100mb limit it comes with. I use the computer for school so I have to make sure I have internet in case I run out.
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Rom: Never stock, but always with some Gingerbread.

noob question about tether

Iv searched and searched but can't find anything specifically answering my question in layman terms.....ok here goes, before I had my phone rooted I paid 30 for one month for the sprint hotspot on my epic and used it on my ps3 to play call of duty and it worked perfect. Then a co worker told me about the rooting and free tethering so I had it done and the phone works fine, its a little faster and all that jazz but the tether feature only works on certain devices (ipod touch and 1 of my laptops) but will not work on my ps3 at all. My question is why and how can I fix it.....
I can't say I've tried this, but here's a thread with some knowledgeable input that might help you along:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834373
Ok I'm lost. It has 2 downloads for epic and neither zip from doing the 3finger start up and zip from sd
It is because it is an adhoc signal. Some devices won't connect or even see an adhoc signal I believe the ps3 is a device that won't cnnect to an adhoc signal. You might have to contact sony on the specs though.
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i understand the logic behind that but why does sprints stock "hotspot" work fine on ps3 but all "aftermarket" tethers do not
I've never used the sprint hotspot, but it probably transmits in infrastructure mode (like a wireless router), and not ad hoc mode (like wirelssly conncting two computers together without a router). The truth is, no ones been able to get infrastructure mode working on di18 (which is android 2.1, and you are probably running it if you didn't go to dk28, which is android 2.2).
Now, you could try going to dk28, but it can be buggy, and I don't think the wireless tether in infrastucture mode works perfectly either. So in otherwords, it might get complicated for you.
I have an xbox360, which also doesn't connect to ad hoc networks. So instead, I use a wired tether program, pdaNet (the free version). My setup is epic wired tethered to my laptop, then an ethernet cable to connect my laptop to my xbox. If you have a laptop that you can use for this setup, I highly recommend it. There's also probably less lag than with wireless tether since wireless has more latency than a usb cable.
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foxracer600rr said:
Iv searched and searched but can't find anything specifically answering my question in layman terms.....ok here goes, before I had my phone rooted I paid 30 for one month for the sprint hotspot on my epic and used it on my ps3 to play call of duty and it worked perfect. Then a co worker told me about the rooting and free tethering so I had it done and the phone works fine, its a little faster and all that jazz but the tether feature only works on certain devices (ipod touch and 1 of my laptops) but will not work on my ps3 at all. My question is why and how can I fix it.....
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If your Epic is running Eclair 2.1 and you're already rooted, then you're in business.
You need to flash the modified hotspot app that was ripped from the Vibrant (and modified for each of the Galaxy S series), and you're golden. After doing this, use the Sprint Hotspot app like usual with no need to pay the $30 fee, plus it's working in infrastructure mode (everything wifi friendly), not ad-hoc (some wifi friendly).
LordLugard said:
If your Epic is running Eclair 2.1 and you're already rooted, then you're in business.
You need to flash the modified hotspot app that was ripped from the Vibrant (and modified for each of the Galaxy S series), and you're golden. After doing this, use the Sprint Hotspot app like usual with no need to pay the $30 fee, plus it's working in infrastructure mode (everything wifi friendly), not ad-hoc (some wifi friendly).
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Do you have a link for that?
knyque said:
Do you have a link for that?
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Found it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756804
I'm on Eclair 2.1 DI18.
I had this issue with my daughter's DSI. I finally did a manual set-up instead of letting the DSI do it automatically and it connected and works great.
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Had a similar issue trying to tether to my nook, luckily there are some pretty smart people over in that forum too and they figured out a way to swap over the nook to see ad hoc networks, makes me wonder if you trolled some ps3 forums and saw if some other people have found a solution to their systems not being ad hoc friendly, because if you ever decide to go to 2.2 that hacked hot spot option wont work
ok so i downloaded the signed-final-mobileap and flashed it and my "sprint hotpot" isnt there anymore and my wireless tether still doesnt work on the ps3.....i running 2.2.1 kernal version 2.6.32.9 build number sph-d700 viperrom frozen ext 4 rfs dk28 dual 4.0.3
like i said im a noob but i know how to flash roms and root but dont fully understand most of this stuff
when i go to setting and click on the mobile app or what ever it says it has stoped unexpectedly
foxracer600rr said:
ok so i downloaded the signed-final-mobileap and flashed it and my "sprint hotpot" isnt there anymore and my wireless tether still doesnt work on the ps3.....i running 2.2.1 kernal version 2.6.32.9 build number sph-d700 viperrom frozen ext 4 rfs dk28 dual 4.0.3
like i said im a noob but i know how to flash roms and root but dont fully understand most of this stuff
when i go to setting and click on the mobile app or what ever it says it has stoped unexpectedly
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The dev is still working the bugs out on the Epic version...
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yea im finding that out, im about to just go back to stock and pay the 30 lol all the trouble iv been goin threw to try and make this work is blowing my mind lol
i tether my ps3
foxracer600rr said:
yea im finding that out, im about to just go back to stock and pay the 30 lol all the trouble iv been goin threw to try and make this work is blowing my mind lol
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ok bro quick question do you have a laptop???
Yes but what I'm trying to do is have a net conection in my car for my ps3 str8 from the phone witgh as litle clutter as possible, I did it at a car show when I had the legit hotspot and worked great.....I don't want to have to lug around a laptop with my phone atatched to it. Id judt like to charge the phone threw my mini usb in the glovebox and run wireles tether
foxracer600rr said:
yea im finding that out, im about to just go back to stock and pay the 30 lol all the trouble iv been goin threw to try and make this work is blowing my mind lol
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If your going to go back to stock anyway (2.1, not 2.2), just root/cwm and flash the existing MobileAP for 2.1, as that will work without having to pay the extra $30/month. The trouble you were having is that the way the hotspot feature works got changed in 2.2, so the zip for 2.1 that you flashed wont work correctly.
If indeed you are going back to 2.1, this will only work on an odexed rom, in other words, a stock rom (custom kernel is fine) or possibly a custom rom after running the odexer tool in the dev section before you install/use MobileAP.
foxracer600rr said:
ok so i downloaded the signed-final-mobileap and flashed it and my "sprint hotpot" isnt there anymore and my wireless tether still doesnt work on the ps3.....i running 2.2.1 kernal version 2.6.32.9 build number sph-d700 viperrom frozen ext 4 rfs dk28 dual 4.0.3
like i said im a noob but i know how to flash roms and root but dont fully understand most of this stuff
when i go to setting and click on the mobile app or what ever it says it has stoped unexpectedly
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I really hate to get this way but the modded Mobile AP is ONLY FOR 2.1 Eclair NOT 2.2. It says so in the post. THAT'S WHY IT DID NOT WORK or FORCE CLOSED on you because you're running 2.2 Froyo!!
LordLugard said:
I really hate to get this way but the modded Mobile AP is ONLY FOR 2.1 Eclair NOT 2.2. It says so in the post. THAT'S WHY IT DID NOT WORK or FORCE CLOSED on you because you're running 2.2 Froyo!!
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+1000
OP I know your a noob but why would u download and FLASH SOMTHING on your phone with out reading the OP on the thread about mobile ap mod?
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got it , read alot...and learned alot.....went back to 2.1 (update 1...whatever that is)....but the tether ap works fine now, even shows up on the ps3. have not tested 4g yet but im sure it will work fine.....thanks alot guys

different netflix apps

I just saw tthis while catching up on my evo threads. I tried most the rred versions and no dice, it will install but I still get the unsupported device msg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14960445&postcount=2011
http://androidandme.com/2011/07/new...lenovos-ideapad-k1/?replytocom=119181#respond
hopefully someone can get there hands on the APK and see if they can get it working on the Xoom
it's not going to happen.
yeah its not going to happen as this Netflix specifically works with Qualcomm snapdragon chipsets for its drm and probably decoding to. It has been cracked to get working on other snapdragon phones but no Tegra 2 device works with it. You'll just have to wait.
That apk that disabled the device check indeed does work on the tegra 2 chipset on my droid X2 so you would think it would be possible on the xoom as well some how. I tried that same apk on the xoom but get the error message that it isn't supported on this device. Has to be possible I'd think though.
My TF had a firmware update over the weekend and NetFlix does show up in the Market now and I was able to download it. However, it still wont stream the content. I am not sure why or what causes the Market to allow access to a Tegra2 device but it is there...
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it's not going to happen.
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This one is working right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15830918
Works on my 3G Xoom. Pretty decent picture considering how poor my signal is right now. It's a joke that Netflix isn't allowing this build to run on more devices.
nirgal2002 said:
Works on my 3G Xoom. Pretty decent picture considering how poor my signal is right now. It's a joke that Netflix isn't allowing this build to run on more devices.
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1.3 works on every android device we sell....
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jjmcc2 said:
This one is working right now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15830918
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that's an official release, not a user edited apk.
patass said:
that's an official release, not a user edited apk.
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Works great for me. I'm so happy with the Xoom now!
C_K
Here is a netflix apk that works just fine on my wifi Xoom, I think this one was orinigally a modded version for the Dell Streak 7 (Terga chipset) and it just happens to work on the Xoom as well. I tested it on a 3g tether, ( it was grainy but what do you expect at 250k?) and on high speed broadband where it performed really well.
Xoom_Netflix.apk via mediafire
Enjoy.
zn706 said:
Here is a netflix apk that works just fine on my wifi Xoom, I think this one was orinigally a modded version for the Dell Streak 7 (Terga chipset) and it just happens to work on the Xoom as well. I tested it on a 3g tether, ( it was grainy but what do you expect at 250k?) and on high speed broadband where it performed really well.
Xoom_Netflix.apk via mediafire
Enjoy.
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But why would we need a modded version now that the official apk runs great on the Xoom? I downloaded the official version from the post here in the Xoom forum under Xoom Themes and Apps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177955 and it works great. Hell I even installed it on my x10 and it works on that too.
By the way, I tested this apk on my xoom tethered to my x10 and was watching Speed Grapher with a crystal clear image. Pretty speedy load time too with no buffering.

help with wifes epic!

What I am looking for is stock rooted gigerbread rom that has working wifi tethering. my wife's phone hasn't been updated because I rooted her phone and she uses barnacle for free tethering. i read that barnacle doesn't work on gingerbread. also Would be sweet if I could odin it. Have tried in the past to put custom roms on wifes epic and have had varied degrees of success. I have an evo running synergy so i am familiar with rooting and changing roms there but seems to be easier with odin on epic. Thanks for all of your help.
CleanGB BML or Legendary would work great for you. They both can be found in Development subforum. Read through the threads for each to see which one you like better.
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Thanks will go look.
You don't need a custom rom to tether. Just root and install the android-wifi-tether app
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Trunks1030 said:
What I am looking for is stock rooted gigerbread rom that has working wifi tethering. my wife's phone hasn't been updated because I rooted her phone and she uses barnacle for free tethering. i read that barnacle doesn't work on gingerbread. also Would be sweet if I could odin it. Have tried in the past to put custom roms on wifes epic and have had varied degrees of success. I have an evo running synergy so i am familiar with rooting and changing roms there but seems to be easier with odin on epic. Thanks for all of your help.
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I've tried a bunch of different ones out and am in the same situation as you... it was rooted for the sole purpose of free tethering (and to remove the samsung bloatware).
The new cleanGB rom is the best i've used, not the fastest but everything works and has been perfectly stable. for tethering i use open garden wifi - this is no longer listed on my market but if you do a google search for it, you can install it directly from their website for free. that's the best/easiest/most stable tether program i've used.
selfinfliction said:
The new cleanGB rom is the best i've used, not the fastest but everything works and has been perfectly stable. for tethering i use open garden wifi - this is no longer listed on my market but if you do a google search for it, you can install it directly from their website for free. that's the best/easiest/most stable tether program i've used.
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Cleangb has wifi hotspot built in, and I thought it does usb tethering as well. No 3rd party app needed. Anytime an app is pulled from the market, you really have to wonder why, and be cautious DLing directly from their website.
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BillyBob3 said:
Cleangb has wifi hotspot built in, and I thought it does usb tethering as well. No 3rd party app needed. Anytime an app is pulled from the market, you really have to wonder why, and be cautious DLing directly from their website.
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it is in the market just they block tethering apps for sprint devices
wanted to say thanks for all the suggestions going to try clean gb.
+1 on the CLeanGB BML. I've had an issue or too fiddling with undervolting but other than that, it just works and looks nearly stock. I'm not a big tetherer but I seem to recall doing a USB tether a while back and Wireless Hotspot hack is built-in. It also included a few other "nice" hacks that I like. Alternatively, as was mentioned, the android wi-fi tether app worked well when I did use it.
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+1 on the CLeanGB BML. I've had an issue or too fiddling with undervolting but other than that, it just works and looks nearly stock. I'm not a big tetherer but I seem to recall doing a USB tether a while back and Wireless Hotspot hack is built-in. It also included a few other "nice" hacks that I like. Alternatively, as was mentioned, the android wi-fi tether app worked well when I did use it.
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The wireless hack works great, its been built into my roms for some time now. But occasionally I still have to use alternate tether apps, as things like my TouchPad can't see Sprint Hotspot for some dumb reason.
wow just came back on and saw all the responses. Thanks again but what i am looking for is a basic rooted gingerbread rom with touch wiz and sprint hotspot. any further help would be appreciated.
Search works well. Google is great from what I hear.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=US&ie=UTF-8&source=android-browser&q=el30+rooted+hotspot+hack
Trunks1030 said:
wow just came back on and saw all the responses. Thanks again but what i am looking for is a basic rooted gingerbread rom with touch wiz and sprint hotspot. any further help would be appreciated.
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It has already been answered. There were several suggestions. Go to Development and pick one that was suggested and you will see they are exactly what you asked.

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