This is a pretty frustrating question but I just can't seem to find the answer anywhere else.
When using the default music player, I like to listen to music in categories. Naturally this would be a great application of the Genre View. The problem here is that even though I manually tag the files with either winamp, windows or any other program, the application just ignores them and decides to group them into whatever genre it feels like.
I subsequently tried Mixzing but it seems to do the exact same thing.
I can't help but wonder if they share the same sort of media engine, samsung designed and somehow failing me at this point.
Anyone have any input?
Bumping myself after 3 days, sorry this is just too annoying to let go so easily.
So nobody else's vibrant ignores MP3 tags data at will? It's just me?
I heard this was a fix in Froyo, but this is pretty annoying. It essentially makes the payer useless for large volumes of music.
Same S D D
Albums show up as Genre's on My Vibrant
Yes, the stock music player and most other players on the market including Mixzing use the underlying Android music database. This is why the tags will be identical between players. The use of the Genre tag in the database sucks. It should be Genre -> Artists -> Albums -> Titles like all ipods do.
As for tags, always use ID3 v2.3 tags if at all possible. 2.4 has less compatibility. MP3Tag is very good.
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I always used to synchronize my music with WMP and now that I've got a Hero (my previous one was HTC S730), it doesn't work anymore. WMP Says:
Your device requires that this file be converted in order to play on the device. However, the device either does not support playing audio, or Windows Media Player cannot convert the file to an audio format that is supported by the device.
Any thoughts?
My entire music collection has two things which don't work on the hero:
1. Album art is WMP format (separate .jpg files for each album)
2. Artist: Artist/Featured artist/Featured artist 2 Album Artist: Artist
Every artist/featured artist combination is handled as a separate artist, while WMP mobile did a good job!
I'll have to bump..
I forgot to mention that it handles genres wrong way too. Some songs have a few genres assigned to them, example:
Pop; Pop Rock
WMP assigns that song to both genres, "Pop" and "Pop Eock", while Android player just makes a genre called "Pop; Rock".
Maybe there are some good 3rd party players on the Market (so far I couldn't find one).
Okay, I have got a solution y'all!
You don't have to ruine your library just to make it compatible with Android..
Search for a program called "MediaMonkey". Free edition DOES NOT do the job, but you can easily find a free-ed version (it's called "Gold"). I'm using version 3.1.1 Gold, which at the moment latest.
I still prefer using WMP for listening to music and I only use MediaMonkey for all the dirty job!
Just take a peek at this screenshot! It cures bad Android player, though you loose some of the data on the device - additional genres and featured artists.
http://www.failai.in/P/1256077992_Capture.JPG
Something that really irritates me is that I have my music on iTunes organized but when I transfer with DoubleTwist and play the music on Meridan Music player, it gets disorganized.
Is there any player that retains the organization from iTunes?
bTunes shamelessly mocks the appearance of the player on the iPhone /iPod Touch. It also handles the library in a similar way (unlike many other players for android, it does NOT slaughter compilations by creating an album entry for each artist)
This app is well in beta stage and is a bit rough around the edges. For me, it FCs on phone boot, but nothing seems to stop working. I cant find a homepage for the app, just search for btunes in the market.
iag48 said:
Something that really irritates me is that I have my music on iTunes organized but when I transfer with DoubleTwist and play the music on Meridan Music player, it gets disorganized.
Is there any player that retains the organization from iTunes?
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One thing I noticed is that Android doesn't have a very good Music management system. It will organize based on what your properties of each song is. It sucks because I had a terrible accident with some garbage media player once and it messed up all of my music's properties. [around 1500 songs]. I took about 2 hours fixing them all because I got tired of not having my Music organized. That's one of my biggest pet peeves.
spaceman_spliff said:
bTunes shamelessly mocks the appearance of the player on the iPhone /iPod Touch. It also handles the library in a similar way (unlike many other players for android, it does NOT slaughter compilations by creating an album entry for each artist)
This app is well in beta stage and is a bit rough around the edges. For me, it FCs on phone boot, but nothing seems to stop working. I cant find a homepage for the app, just search for btunes in the market.
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Thanks! bTunes (beta) is great. Works good enough for me on the Nexus Won.
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For me, it FCs on phone boot, but nothing seems to stop working..
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This issue has been resolved in the latest round of updates. The dev seems to update this app quite often.
I'm looking for bTunes in a few minutes. I was actually thinking of trading my N1 for an unlocked 3GS just because it really irritates me. So will my iTunes library transfer as it is on my Mac?
Anyone able to sort their music on the N1, through any music player, BY DATE ADDED or MODIFIED??
I want to listen to the music I added to the music folder most recently.
I have a big library, and i want to listen to the new stuff first....
Okay, so now that I'm committed to the HD2, I'm also committing to fix or remedy the issues I have with the device. I've gotten it to run smoothly, except for the Sense music player.
First, is it normal for it to scan for music every time it's powered on, or unplugged from USB? You would think it would save an "image" of your library to run off while it scans the SD card for new files, but no. Instead, it scans for several minutes, in which time it won't display any artists or albums and lags horribly. Am I missing a setting, or have my library sorted incorrectly? Right now it's setup as root/music/artist/album/mp3, fwiw.
Also, the gap between tracks is terribly annoying. It totally kills mix cd's that are cut into tracks, and ruins the flow of a lot of albums. Is there a way to get rid of this, like the "skip silence" function in iTunes? I knowIf not, is there an app that scans and removes silence from the beginning/end of my mp3's as a batch process? For example, point the app to my music folder, and let it scan/trim silence from each mp3 automatically?
Other than these problems, I really like the music player... but these things are serious dealbreakers for me. If there's no way around them, is there a music player you can suggest that does these things?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. I really don't think these things are a lot to ask from a music player, and I'm hoping there's a way to make it happen.
+1 i too has this same issue
Yes, this happens. People have suggested a music player called nitrogen, but I haven't really messed with it to know how good it is or not.
Yes the HTC Sense music player can be one of the problems with this phone, especially for larger music collections, and/or ones stored on the card....mostly due to the less-than-efficient way it indexes the music. The two cabs I have attached should help you with that somewhat. The first one adds indexing to the startup group, so it should be pre-indexed by the time you decide to open the music tab. The second one turns on caching on the card, which should also help speed up the indexing and access times on the music tab.
As for the gaps between tracks, I've never seen a solution for that other than manually trimming the files...but even that won't totally remove the gap. I listen to a lot of full-length mix CD's too and the way I get around this issue is to just rip the CD as one full-length mp3, instead of as individual tracks. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is the free utility I use for that
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Yes the HTC Sense music player can be one of the problems with this phone, especially for larger music collections, and/or ones stored on the card....mostly due to the less-than-efficient way it indexes the music. The two cabs I have attached should help you with that somewhat. The first one adds indexing to the startup group, so it should be pre-indexed by the time you decide to open the music tab. The second one turns on caching on the card, which should also help speed up the indexing and access times on the music tab.
As for the gaps between tracks, I've never seen a solution for that other than manually trimming the files...but even that won't totally remove the gap. I listen to a lot of full-length mix CD's too and the way I get around this issue is to just rip the CD as one full-length mp3, instead of as individual tracks. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is the free utility I use for that
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Hey, thanks for the help!
I have several mixes ripped as a single track, but it's hardly convenient. I just hope HTC is aware of this, and working on a solution for an upcoming ROM release. I definitely won't be holding my breath, though.
I've tried a bunch of different music players and the only one I have found that doesn't have the silences in between the songs is Pocket Player. Its a paid music player but if you have a large music library or listen to music a lot its by far the best solution out there.
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I've tried a bunch of different music players and the only one I have found that doesn't have the silences in between the songs is Pocket Player. Its a paid music player but if you have a large music library or listen to music a lot its by far the best solution out there.
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I actually tried that out last night, v4.1, and I found it really clunky, with poor sound quality compared to the stock music player. Maybe I don't have the latest version, but I really didn't like it much.
Is there any other music players that have an interface similar to stock? Even if it doesn't have gapless playback, it's more likely that a dev would update the app more frequently than HTC.
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I actually tried that out last night, v4.1, and I found it really clunky, with poor sound quality compared to the stock music player. Maybe I don't have the latest version, but I really didn't like it much.
Is there any other music players that have an interface similar to stock? Even if it doesn't have gapless playback, it's more likely that a dev would update the app more frequently than HTC.
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Next try nitrogen and TCPMP
Does anyone have any suggested techniques for copying MP3 or WMA files to the phone (SD or Internal memory)?
What I've discovered is that synching with Media Player will transfer over these hidden files (album art, desktop.ini, and folder.jpg). These hidden files seem to mess with the way the Sense music player is picking up the music and what ends up happening is that in the music players details view, it does indeed break up the artists and the albums etc. HOWEVER, in the default view (the one that shows the album covers) it doesn't know what to do and only shows you the album cover of the particular album you are listening too. There's no way to get to the other album without going into the details menu and selecting it from there.
Whew - SO, all that being said; what I found is that if I delete the album art, desktop.ini and folder.jpg files BEFORE manually dragging and dropping the music over to the phone it seems to resolve the problem.
So is there a more streamlined approach to doing this?
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Does anyone have any suggested techniques for copying MP3 or WMA files to the phone (SD or Internal memory)?
What I've discovered is that synching with Media Player will transfer over these hidden files (album art, desktop.ini, and folder.jpg). These hidden files seem to mess with the way the Sense music player is picking up the music and what ends up happening is that in the music players details view, it does indeed break up the artists and the albums etc. HOWEVER, in the default view (the one that shows the album covers) it doesn't know what to do and only shows you the album cover of the particular album you are listening too. There's no way to get to the other album without going into the details menu and selecting it from there.
Whew - SO, all that being said; what I found is that if I delete the album art, desktop.ini and folder.jpg files BEFORE manually dragging and dropping the music over to the phone it seems to resolve the problem.
So is there a more streamlined approach to doing this?
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Put your INC in DISK DRIVE mode and copy your files to the SD card using Windows Explorer. You can also take out the SD card, put it in a reader, plug that into your PC's card reader, and put the files there via Windows Explorer.
Of course, all this presupposes that your MP3 files are correct (e.g., their ID3 tags are correct; and the album art was already integrated).
I use Tunesync, there're also isyncr, doubletwist, websharing....
The thing I like about these sync software is that they put your music in a playlist, which all the players can see.
First thing I would do is ditch the default android player though and stay away from Music PlayerPro too (just a skinned default player-same options same problems).
I am using bTunes, I think it's already abandon by the developer, but since it works and I already paid for it so might as well.
I recommend Mort Player if you don't look at it too much, Man!..that UI is just plain Ugly.
DoubleTwist is great. It also syncs your videos as well. Best part is it only syncs what you want. You create playlists and it syncs based on their contents
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Thanks for the info everyone. I guess the bottom line is that music software on Android is still in infancy stages with a lot of options but nothing that really just stands out. I hate to admit it but looks like Apple has a (+) in this department for now. My Incredible is a filler phone to hold me over until with WINMO7 stuff starts to hit Verizon so just looking for the best combinations of software on this thing.
I'm totally new to Android but I would have thought that the folks over at Google would have taken the media experience a little more seriously and spent some time on those aspects out of the box.
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Thanks for the info everyone. I guess the bottom line is that music software on Android is still in infancy stages with a lot of options but nothing that really just stands out. I hate to admit it but looks like Apple has a (+) in this department for now. My Incredible is a filler phone to hold me over until with WINMO7 stuff starts to hit Verizon so just looking for the best combinations of software on this thing.
I'm totally new to Android but I would have thought that the folks over at Google would have taken the media experience a little more seriously and spent some time on those aspects out of the box.
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Google was doing fine, 2.1 was solid. It uses up battery like there's no tomorrow, but solid.
2.2 seem like it's coded by 5 year olds... in Mongolia...using Vtech's Vsmile system....during recess. Maybe that's why the battery last longer, nothing works. Could be a way to make us pay for third-party apps (free enterprise at work).
Bus, now that's just plan 'ol funny. Educational (for me) at the same time.
I use the free version of Media Monkey on my Win XP desktop and Meridian on my Dinc. Then I sync playlists (like I used to on my iPhone 3G). Works like a champ.
The iPhone is far superior in the music catagory (dsp, organization, genius) but u have to keep inmind it stemed from an ipod. That said the closest ive come to it is boomboxoid but its terribly slow and often unresponsive. Which is why i primarily use pandora now...an ipod like music player is the app i want most!
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The iPhone is far superior in the music catagory (dsp, organization, genius) but u have to keep inmind it stemed from an ipod. That said the closest ive come to it is boomboxoid but its terribly slow and often unresponsive. Which is why i primarily use pandora now...an ipod like music player is the app i want most!
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I've mentioned bTunes above. It's the exact replica of the iPhone/iPod player.
Hi everyone!
I manage all my music in iTunes on my Mac and transfer it to my devices with iSyncr, which is a great app. However, in iTunes i use the album artist field a lot (e.g. artist: Eminem feat. Dr. Dre, album artist: Eminem).
This causes a problem in most Android music players as they don't read the album artist tag and make my artist list way too long and unreadable. Currently I'm using Google Play Music player which does in fact support the album artist tag. But i would love to use the stock music player on the Galaxy Tab 2 because of the shortcut dock on the standard launcher.
Mostly I'm just curious about why some players support the album artist field why others doesn't. Also, I have searched and searched about this without finding a lot of useful information. Am I the only one who gets annoyed by this? Anyone else having trouble with music tagging at all?
Thanks for any feedback!