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Micro Drive & SDHC, which one is faster?

Hi guys, since i am getting my DOPOD U1000 this week, i want to know where is the best place to install my program and store my music and photo.
I have purchase a 4GB mini SDHC. Compare to the micro drive, which one should i use to install my program. (which one is faster?)
For music & movie, i think i will store it in Micro Drive. How about photos? Will there be delays if i store the photo taken by camera in Micro drive? or is it better to store in SDHC?
Thank

I had the Samsung SGH-i300. Nice WM Smartphone with 4 GB micro drive....it drains the battery like a starving beast. With improvements in technology, things should be a little better now, but don't expect too much, hence 128 ROM & 256 RAM (for regularly used apps and accessed files).
Micro drive will drain your battery severely. Best way to look at it is this way; put the files that you will most frequently access on your SDHC card and larger files like movies on your micro drive.
Photos? Difficult one really. Personally, I have two categories of photos; Newly taken ones which I want to see regularly for a while + Wallpapers etc [store these on SD card]
Older collection of Photos/Albums- occasional use but important to me personally th have always available [Store these on Micro Drive]
Movies and Music and PC data for various reasons [Micro Drive]
Regularly used apps not installed to default device location [SD Card]
Don't forget the micro drive is mechanical and therefore drains battery power more that's why it's good to use SD card for heavy use.

mackaby007 said:
I had the Samsung SGH-i300. Nice WM Smartphone with 4 GB micro drive....it drains the battery like a starving beast. With improvements in technology, things should be a little better now, but don't expect too much, hence 128 ROM & 256 RAM (for regularly used apps and accessed files).
Micro drive will drain your battery severely. Best way to look at it is this way; put the files that you will most frequently access on your SDHC card and larger files like movies on your micro drive.
Photos? Difficult one really. Personally, I have two categories of photos; Newly taken ones which I want to see regularly for a while + Wallpapers etc [store these on SD card]
Older collection of Photos/Albums- occasional use but important to me personally th have always available [Store these on Micro Drive]
Movies and Music and PC data for various reasons [Micro Drive]
Regularly used apps not installed to default device location [SD Card]
Don't forget the micro drive is mechanical and therefore drains battery power more that's why it's good to use SD card for heavy use.
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Thanks mackaby007, that answer every single of my question. Will indeed follow the above setup when my device is here

wu5262 said:
Thanks mackaby007, that answer every single of my question. Will indeed follow the above setup when my device is here
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hi
if device hanging and must hard reset it, which drive will be formatted?
Micro Drive or Memory or ram or all ?
tanX

Arya said:
hi
if device hanging and must hard reset it, which drive will be formatted?
Micro Drive or Memory or ram or all ?
tanX
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only the ram in device is clear, micro drive and mini sd will stay un-touch. Of course , there is a function that you can format the micro alone as well

wu5262 said:
only the ram in device is clear, micro drive and mini sd will stay un-touch. Of course , there is a function that you can format the micro alone as well
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tanX a lot
with this thing we must install programs on which? beacuse if a program have problem we must reset and formatting and other information(music,videoand..) willl be deleted!!!!

Arya said:
tanX a lot
with this thing we must install programs on which? beacuse if a program have problem we must reset and formatting and other information(music,videoand..) willl be deleted!!!!
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see above post:
Program you use a lot, everyday! (on device memory)
Program you use sometimes, (on sd card)
Music and Video (on micro drive)
Flash photo (sd card)
Old photo (move to micro drive)
Hope that help

wu5262 said:
see above post:
Program you use a lot, everyday! (on device memory)
Program you use sometimes, (on sd card)
Music and Video (on micro drive)
Flash photo (sd card)
Old photo (move to micro drive)
Hope that help
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tanX a lot

Big Post people....run now if u hate long posts.
Arya said:
tanX a lot:
with this thing we must install programs on which? beacuse if a program have problem we must reset and formatting and other information(music,videoand..) willl be deleted!!!!
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Also Arya, don't forget that we're talking about WM5 here. There will likely not be many problems if you were using the same apps on a previous WM5 PPC.
Personally I will set up as follows:
1) Only install apps which have proved to be no probs in over 3 months of use, prior to getting the X7500.
2) Test each app for only 10-15 minutes with a couple of soft resets and whilst other apps run in background.
3) No more than essential apps initially (don't even want a X7500 if it can't run this).
4) These apps for me are: Batti v2.0, WA2, Resco Photo Viewer, Total Commander, Coreplayer (or TCPMP) and PocketMusic. Providing these work without issue for 15 minutes - 60 minutes, I do a Full backup with Spb Backup. Then I do a contacts backup using Spb Backup. Then I have my primary set-up to revert to if things go wrong as I install other apps in the future.
5) This should really come before the backup. Ensure UMTS connects and disconnects as it should and that my primary Wi-fi is protected (secured) and my sim contacts have been saved to my outlook contacts.
6)That's the basics. Then transfer all 'storage data' like Movies, Music and occasionally accessed Photos to Micro-Drive. Also PC data to be used in other places other than home or work can also be stored here.
7) Personal Ring-tone folder - SD Card
8) Regularly accessed Photos and recently taken Photos - SD Card...Why?...because I often take my SD card to transfer photos to mine and other PC's. If the X7500 has mass storage capabilities due to USB host capabilities, then this may change to Micro-Drive only, but that means I always have to walk with a lead. (No thanks - the X75 is big enough)
9)Before -all games to SD card...Now - all games to device unless they exceed 15mb.
10)Backup Device and have duplicate copy of personalized file structure and folders on Micro Drive, just in case.
I should now have 3 Backups:
1) Primary backup - Essential apps with everything working beautifully.
2) Contacts backup - make a scheduled backup of this once a week to include new additions and replace last Contacts backup.
3)Big Backup - Final and fully loaded Device backup including SD card and micr drive Backup.
Lastly should have been first. Play with original ROM without 3rd party apps for at least 48 hours (however many days it takes to achieve the hours). Why?..to ensure you are happy with the ROM before you go through all this work.
Remember the device backup is not transferable to other ROMs, nor will applications that were installed to SD card or Micro drive. Hence the reason why I put 'storage data' on the micro drive and SD card, because it can be used again.
Then I just install whatever whenever, without fear of a total rebuild.
Not least of all, be prepared to do it all over again when WM6 becomes available for the X7500.
And yes I'll be doing it - can live without Video calling.
Sorry for the long post people, but I hope someone finds it useful as it has taken me years to get a system that gives me no problems at all.....but that's exactly what I always end up with after all the problems have been resolved and tweaks applied...a device to die for. Not literally.

mackaby007 said:
Also Arya, don't forget that we're talking about WM5 here. There will likely not be many problems if you were using the same apps on a previous WM5 PPC.
Personally I will set up as follows:
1) Only install apps which have proved to be no probs in over 3 months of use, prior to getting the X7500.
2) Test each app for only 10-15 minutes with a couple of soft resets and whilst other apps run in background.
3) No more than essential apps initially (don't even want a X7500 if it can't run this).
4) These apps for me are: Batti v2.0, WA2, Resco Photo Viewer, Total Commander, Coreplayer (or TCPMP) and PocketMusic. Providing these work without issue for 15 minutes - 60 minutes, I do a Full backup with Spb Backup. Then I do a contacts backup using Spb Backup. Then I have my primary set-up to revert to if things go wrong as I install other apps in the future.
5) This should really come before the backup. Ensure UMTS connects and disconnects as it should and that my primary Wi-fi is protected (secured) and my sim contacts have been saved to my outlook contacts.
6)That's the basics. Then transfer all 'storage data' like Movies, Music and occasionally accessed Photos to Micro-Drive. Also PC data to be used in other places other than home or work can also be stored here.
7) Personal Ring-tone folder - SD Card
8) Regularly accessed Photos and recently taken Photos - SD Card...Why?...because I often take my SD card to transfer photos to mine and other PC's. If the X7500 has mass storage capabilities due to USB host capabilities, then this may change to Micro-Drive only, but that means I always have to walk with a lead. (No thanks - the X75 is big enough)
9)Before -all games to SD card...Now - all games to device unless they exceed 15mb.
10)Backup Device and have duplicate copy of personalized file structure and folders on Micro Drive, just in case.
I should now have 3 Backups:
1) Primary backup - Essential apps with everything working beautifully.
2) Contacts backup - make a scheduled backup of this once a week to include new additions and replace last Contacts backup.
3)Big Backup - Final and fully loaded Device backup including SD card and micr drive Backup.
Lastly should have been first. Play with original ROM without 3rd party apps for at least 48 hours (however many days it takes to achieve the hours). Why?..to ensure you are happy with the ROM before you go through all this work.
Remember the device backup is not transferable to other ROMs, nor will applications that were installed to SD card or Micro drive. Hence the reason why I put 'storage data' on the micro drive and SD card, because it can be used again.
Then I just install whatever whenever, without fear of a total rebuild.
Not least of all, be prepared to do it all over again when WM6 becomes available for the X7500.
And yes I'll be doing it - can live without Video calling.
Sorry for the long post people, but I hope someone finds it useful as it has taken me years to get a system that gives me no problems at all.....but that's exactly what I always end up with after all the problems have been resolved and tweaks applied...a device to die for. Not literally.
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your informations are very good and i hope every one use it
tanX a lot too

I have a 2GB Trancend 80x MiniSD and ran the speed benchmark test using SK Tools. Here's the result :
Storage Card (write); 535.28;KB/sec
Storage Card (read); 875.84;KB/sec
MicroDrive (write);14733.81;KB/sec
MicroDrive (read);11792.71;KB/sec
Storage card wins hands down as expected.

k_kirk said:
I have a 2GB Trancend 80x MiniSD and ran the speed benchmark test using SK Tools. Here's the result :
Storage Card (write); 535.28;KB/sec
Storage Card (read); 875.84;KB/sec
MicroDrive (write);14733.81;KB/sec
MicroDrive (read);11792.71;KB/sec
Storage card wins hands down as expected.
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sorry i am a bit confuse here, i though the bigger value is better, so storage card can write 535.28 Kb per second where micro drive can write 14733.81 Kb per second. Or am i wrong here?

Yeah, that's how I'm reading those values.

Guys, you're absolutely right ofcourse. Its 12:38AM here and I think I should go to sleep. Playing with the new U1000 for 8 hours flat I think I am starting to loose it. Thanks for setting the record straight...

k_kirk said:
I have a 2GB Trancend 80x MiniSD and ran the speed benchmark test using SK Tools. Here's the result :
Storage Card (write); 535.28;KB/sec
Storage Card (read); 875.84;KB/sec
MicroDrive (write);14733.81;KB/sec
MicroDrive (read);11792.71;KB/sec
Storage card wins hands down as expected.
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Hi k_Kik,
Could I seek the following clarification?
How was your card formatted?
- Do you back up the FAT table?
- Is it with FAT32 ?
- What was your cluster size?
Also, SK tools seems to always give a very good reading for the first test, then have a drastically lowered reading from second test onward (That has been my observation). Is your reading the first one or the second one onward? Also, the reading differs drastically depending on the above settings used to format the card. My own test shows the following: (All FAT 32 formatting and without FAT table backup)
Cluster size----1st write--1st read----subsequent write/read
0.5K---------- 13.26KB/s--798KB/s---not tested
1K------------15.76-------931------not tested
2K------------238---------930------not tested
4K------------264---------931 -----not tested
8K------------518---------931-------270/922-- 266/922
16K---------- 490---------911------235/748----232/688
32K----------518---------950------241/701------240/708----243/720
I also tested with FAT table backup as a formatting setting, and got the following result
32k---------144---------821-------91/750
My card is a class 4 4GB miniSDHC card made by Toshiba, manufactured in Japan.
It appears that in my case the best performance that SKtools would report comes from FAT32 with no FAT table backup, and cluster size of 32KB. Is your card formatted with the same setting?

Install in Storage Card or Internal Memory?

Where do you guys usually install your apps to? Are there any benefits in installing to the Storage Card vs. installing in the internal memory of the phone?
Is the phone faster if all apps are installed on the storage card?

some apps definitely would not respond well if you install it in the storage card, especially if the app needs to 'wake up' from the power standby, due to the battery saving mode for external storage.
with X1, the phone storage is plenty that it doesn't make any difference for you to install in phone storage versus external. Upon fresh hardreset, my phone would have at least 204MB after deleting away the demo videos, etc. And this is standard ROM, not custom ROM.

Tri3Dent said:
Where do you guys usually install your apps to? Are there any benefits in installing to the Storage Card vs. installing in the internal memory of the phone?
Is the phone faster if all apps are installed on the storage card?
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The truth is that it is "horses for courses"
If you regard the device as a phone with a bit of residual computer capability, then 300Mb of Storage will last a lifetime
If you regard it as a computer with a phone segment attached, then use the SD card for everything you can. The tnyynt SD tweak for speeding card access is brilliant to the point where I am unable to tell the practical difference between Storage and card use.
I use mine as a work computer with a phone attached. My 16Gb card is already 55% full (ie. just under 9Gb of data and programs) - this cannot fit in Storage.

man what kind of programs and data that you have that takes over 8 gigs on your phone.
music and videos i can understand, programs and data???? i got a 4 gig card and the only program that i have that takes up 1 gig is the maps for tomtom 7.910
hopefully the 32 gig card will be compatable with the x1 in the near future.

c_legaspi said:
man what kind of programs and data that you have that takes over 8 gigs on your phone.
music and videos i can understand, programs and data???? i got a 4 gig card and the only program that i have that takes up 1 gig is the maps for tomtom 7.910
hopefully the 32 gig card will be compatable with the x1 in the near future.
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OK, well 1) as I said, my device is used as a computer with a phone segment attached, so having >8Gb "on my phone" is not really accurate. I have >8Gb on my card (ie. HDD) and growing
2) Music and video ?? None of them, I use hifi and TV for those when I'm home
3) I use the device for geological/geotechnical mapping on a world-wide basis, together with CAD/3D modeling of collected and supplied data. So high-level topo data, drillhole data, outcrop data, survey data, engineering constraints, zillions of reference reports etc etc + the slew of large programs needed to run these data collections
So for me, smaller, faster ROM = better and better
4) you bet I'm hanging out for the 32Gb cards

problem with having too little phone storage is some program use storage as temp
currently i have about 40gb storage free but still
the comic book reader crash often because the .net program in question
unzip the whole comic to some temp dir in phone storage
when it operates and apparently the comic use more then 40gb
would be easy for the programmer to fix so it didn't unzip all or did it to
the sd card but..

I put pretty much all programs that can be installed onto the card on the card... I also have shedloads of files on there mainly for language learning (I am learning Chinese and also have some Russian stuff)... from 16gb I am down to 7.7 and thats only cos I deleted a few tv shows from China...
PS I am reposting this due to the deletion bug thing... I did have a longer post but cant remeber all my witty reply...

flip a coin

MicroSD filesystem?

Just upgraded to a 16gb microsd and was wondering what filesystem i should format it to. I know the nexus one itself can format it for me but i just thought i should ask you android veterans out there.
Also, is there any app that can benchmark/check status (health) of a microsd? I know you can do it on a computer but im hoping for an android app

It depends on a few things. If you're unlocked and have a custom ROM like Cyan's, then you can do like 1Gb as ext2/3/4 and use app2sd to install apps to that partition (you can do this from within Recovery, just search for app2sd).
For normal data storage, just do the normal fat32. You can put your music, gps maps, etc on fat32.

fat32 it is then.
I'd use app2sd if i could but unfortunately my card is only a class 2, so i think it would be slow. I dont know how to set that up anyways

you might as well test the cards speed anyway, mine is class 4 and it is actually faster than that
the amount of memory the N1 has most things will be cached or running anyway minimising access to the card.

Mem Micro SD card upgrade

Hello,
I have a Samsung Focus with Mango 7.5 on it. I want to upgrade my micro SD card from 4 to 8 gig.
Just want to know what I have to do? I have a lot of apps and music on my phone.
Thanks

Well, prepare to reinstall your apps and games. You can't backup/restore with different size memory or with different devices. If there's any data that you absolutely have to keep because it isn't synced somewhere else, check with the developer about your options. You'll likely lose those, settings, saved games, etc. I've messed with this before and had to reinstall every time.
Also, make sure you're using a quality microsd card that's designed for random access. Sandisk class 2/4 get good reviews in general for this sort of purpose. Kingston - had horrible trouble with their cards, no matter what class. If you haven't seen a good amount of success with the card by other posters, be prepared to repeat this process later. You won't see any problems until after passing the 8GB mark, but if you start seeing random resets it's likely due to the card.

If you're dev unlocked now, you can access the ISO storage to back-up your current settings (there is an app here on XDA - WP7AppBackup - Backup Restore third party app data). However, you will need to re-install all your apps/games first. As for the music/photo/vids you should have all that synced already so when you're done upgrading you can easily get that back.
As for the card list, I updated the Focus wiki to contain the latest info about working cards, as per my post in the proper thread here.

Yes my I have an unlocked phone.
I'll check for your apps and compatibility. THanks guys for your input!

btw, can I use WP7 Update Cab Sender backup program to do the same thing?

Can't understand nobody can do a full backup. You have 5 gigs of stock on it, you got 5 gigs backup. That's it, that's all

Anikachiktou said:
Can't understand nobody can do a full backup. You have 5 gigs of stock on it, you got 5 gigs backup. That's it, that's all
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The backups you currently have are all tied to the SD card you are currently using. That card has become a very extension of the phone's memory and the OS accounts for both internal+card as one storage. It is very similar to disk spanning, in a way.
Long story short, you can use the backup only if you have the same card installed on your Focus. Which means you won't be able to restore from backups using the new card. There is enough material about all this in the Focus wiki, AT&T website/phone docs as well as on this forum (Q&A).

Enable adoptable storage on ASUS Marshmallow Beta firmware

Although ASUS has removed the new Marshmallow option to format the external SD Card as adoptable storage, it can easily be done via adb. Just follow this guide:
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
The only difference I found was that on mine the drive location numbers were separated by a comma rather than a colon (i.e. 169,64).
Here is a screenshot of my 16GB model with 16GB SD card adopted:

kanagawaben said:
Although ASUS has removed the new Marshmallow option to format the external SD Card as adoptable storage, it can easily be done via adb. Just follow this guide:
http://www.modaco.com/news/android/...e-adoptable-storage-on-your-s7-s7-edge-r1632/
The only difference I found was that on mine the drive location numbers were separated by a comma rather than a colon (i.e. 169,64).
Here is a screenshot of my 16GB model with 16GB SD card adopted:
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Thanks that's super useful, I will give this a try and let you know if it works for me, I don't know why ASUS removed this feature as its probably the best feature of marshmallow, anyway I think its recommended to have a minimum of a class 10 SD card when using adoptable storage to ensure there's no slowdown when accessing things on the SD card.

xDEV007 said:
Thanks that's super useful, I will give this a try and let you know if it works for me, I don't know why ASUS removed this feature as its probably the best feature of marshmallow, anyway I think its recommended to have a minimum of a class 10 SD card when using adoptable storage to ensure there's no slowdown when accessing things on the SD card.
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Pretty sure they removed it to keep things simple and because it doesn't work perfectly. Even with a class 10 SD card, it is noticeably slow. I will probably move most, if not all of my apps back to the real internal storage. But that's fine. At least it means I don't have to worry about running out of space, and don't have to manage where podcasts, videos, photos etc are being stored.

kanagawaben said:
Pretty sure they removed it to keep things simple and because it doesn't work perfectly. Even with a class 10 SD card, it is noticeably slow. I will probably move most, if not all of my apps back to the real internal storage. But that's fine. At least it means I don't have to worry about running out of space, and don't have to manage where podcasts, videos, photos etc are being stored.
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Yeah I guess so and the speed is a big issue, I think you'd probably have to use an UHS SD card to make it work smoothly. But still useful

I agree about the UHS card. And even amongst regular class 10 cards, I understand there is considerable difference. Mine was a cheaper brand and performance is not great, but I'm told that Samsung Evo ones, for example, are better.
Also agree that it is a useful feature. Because it needs some management and user interaction, it's probably wise that makers like Samsung and ASUS have taken it out, as it might cause more harm than good for average users who really need things to just work. However, it's a nice feature for us tech nerd xda types who can handle it appropriately, and it's an easy little hack to enable it so it's all good. And let's be honest, we all enjoy little hidden extra features that we can hacktivate by ourselves!

I swapped out my cheap generic Class 10 SDHC for a better UHS (40 Mbps) Class 10 SDHC one today. The difference is very noticeable - apps on the UHS card open almost instantaneously, unlike on the regular card, where there was a long delay before they opened.

Can someone check the build.prop and tell me what this line says
ro.build.characteristics=
If it says nodscard or similar try changing it to say
ro.build.characteristics=default
And see if that will enable native adoptable storage.
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eoghan2t7 said:
Can someone check the build.prop and tell me what this line says
ro.build.characteristics=
If it says nodscard or similar try changing it to say
ro.build.characteristics=default
And see if that will enable native adoptable storage.
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Code:
adb shell getprop | grep ro.build.characteristics
[ro.build.characteristics]: [nosdcard]

kanagawaben said:
Because it needs some management and user interaction, it's probably wise that makers like Samsung and ASUS have taken it out, as it might cause more harm than good for average users who really need things to just work.
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You're getting it all wrong. It's all about profit. If the manufacturers leave in the option to adopt external storage, knowledgeable consumers will have no reason to spend more $$ and buy the manufacturers' devices with larger internal memory. And yes, it also saves them a lot of support issues with people complaining their phone is slow, when it turns out they are using slow SD cards.
So, it's nice that Google added that feature, but ultimately I believe very few of the really big / mainstream manufacturers will actually not disable it. As was mentioned in many articles around the 'net, this feature is really meant for AndroidOne devices, cheap devices with very little internal memory.

So, could anyone post Sequential Read / Write and Random Read / Write speeds that would allow SD card to match or get close enough to ZenFone 2's internal storage?
It's really hard to choose the right SD card when every article in the Internet literally starts and ends with "class 6 card is worse than class 10 card but they are both ok for Full HD video derpaderp..." I KNOW it's OK for HD-video but that's not THE ONLY THING I am going to do with my SMART-freakin'-phone! We are not 5 years old, we can understand a bit more complicated technical specs than that.

Zhabishe said:
So, could anyone post Sequential Read / Write and Random Read / Write speeds that would allow SD card to match or get close enough to ZenFone 2's internal storage?
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You'll never get close to internal speeds. Even with the fastest cards.
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kenbo111 said:
You'll never get close to internal speeds. Even with the fastest cards.
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Well, if we can trust this article, http://www.anandtech.com/show/9251/the-asus-zenfone-2-review/6 , it doesn't seem like completely unreacheble. But it's hard to compare results from different testing software.
Btw, I don't need something extremely close, all I want is to get apps to launch from SD card within reasonable time.

Non-UHS Class 10 card was useless, but now that I am using the 40 Mbps UHS card, it's not that bad. Apps open reasonably fast and hasn't really behaved any differently. And this was a cheap 16GB card from a Japanese maker called Greenhouse that I picked up on sale for the equivalent of about $7 .

I was able to set up the storage as adoptable on my device, but no apps allow the option to move to the SD card. I'm guessing if I want this to happen I need to uninstall/reinstall the apps, since they go to the most available space by default?
Edit: what about copying over data to store externally on the card? Since it's formatted as internal, of course it doesn't show the card in file explorer apps or in Windows. I've got 28 gigs of media files to copy over from the old card and I'm not sure where to put it.

Hallo.
I've tried to enable adoptable storage and it's success. But after 1 month, my sd card has been crash.
The problem is my (real) internal storage now only can run the app, but can't use to save file, music, video, etc. Even I can't use my camera to take photo, bcz the (real) internal storage is not available.
It's bcz when I enable the adoptable storage, it's separated the (real) internal storage only for save data app, and internal storage (from sdcard) for save data app and also file like music, photo, video, etc.
How to enable my (real) internal storage to save data file like usually?
Plz anyone can help? I really appreciate it.

android 7.1.1 ??
Will this work on zenfone 4 max with android 7.1.1? For ADB tools, I wasn't sure what to answer (Y or N) on some of the installation questions. I said N to system wide and N to install drivers. The instructions above seemed ambiguous that you could say yes or no to skip steps, but not sure if that's why it didn't work for me or if this tutorial was for older phone software. Also I have windows 10 and power shell window not command window. Any help much appreciated!