Hey everyone, ever since I retrieved the vibrant on launch day, I have been deciding whether or not to root my vibrant.
So the reason why I'm starting this topic is because I need some opinions from you vibrant users on what I can benefit from a rooted phone. I'm hesitating because the only thing that's stopping me from rooting the phone is because I'm afraid off voiding the warranty.
So the general question is:
By rooting the vibrant, what are the benefits of doing it and from your/everyones experiences, what does it do for the phone?
This is my first android phone ever do I'm still kinda new.
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Rooting is very easy on this phone and it is reversible. Removing the bloatware is the number 1 reason to root in my book. But there are also lots of good apps to install that require root. Just make sure to follow instructions. My saying is read twice flash once.
There are so many of these threads.. use the search and you'll find them *sigh*
Did it for you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734615&highlight=rooting
It's also easy to unroot incase anything goes wrong.
I had 2 g1 before root and have to return them for warranty issues and they never say anything because they were root.
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Ok...
No one has debated or have asked this question:
Should I root my Vibrant?
I'd like to actually see a debate whether or not rooting is better or stock is better. I know you have to root in order to do custom ROM, but what I'm trying to achieve on this thread is, the benefits of rooting (since I know there are plenty). I just want to give noobs and new users of Vibrant the flexibility of deciding whether they need to root, or not. I myself, have a rooted vibrant, and LOVE IT.
So, is rooting for me? Should I root the Vibrant? Or stick with the stock?
P.S.
I used "me" as an example. It isn't necessary that I want to ask the question, i just thought it's better if i put "me" on the question...
Rooting is ALWAYS better.
Certainly the VAST majority of people do not need to root their phones for any reason. I have several friends with Vibrants that are quite happy with their phones as-is.
You gain absolutely nothing by rooting your phone, there is absolutely no difference in any way shape or form except you can now do modifications that non-rooted phones can not. The question isn't whether to root or not, the question is whether or not you want to do something with/to your phone that requires root access.
For me, I would have had to stick with my Blackberry simply to have tethering ability, it is a feature I have had to use many, many times. Since I never got Kies working right, I had no choice but to root in order to install MobileAP which has been a real life saver for me when I absolutely had to have internet access on my laptop and their was no alternative. This is the same reason I had to root my wife's 3G Slide. She absolutely has to have internet access and it is her only means to get it in some places.
That will probably be the only reason for her. Me, being a techie, I have flash Franken-Twiz, Bionix 1.8, 1.9, and am now running Fusion and absolutely love my phone now.
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Rooting is ALWAYS better.
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How come it is ALWAYS better? What makes rooting better for you?
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@ Kerry
Well put. Hopefully this would bring light to new users.
Personally, rooting is a must for me, because of the fact I'm always on the road, having a tethered phone has an advantage.
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I rooted because I could...
I like the ability to do different things with my phone - I'm not one to leave it stock if I don't have too.
but it's weird, I haven't jailbroke my ipod yet - never really felt the need to nor the desire.
with my phone (and this is my first android) it just seemed like the right thing to do, then after bricking during the OTA I dived right into flashing ROMs and overclocking...yeah, rooting like a gateway drug...and I'm so happy...
but I was the noob on rooting/flashing/ etc up until the other week...and now I have a flashing problem...hahahaha
I rooted my phone just to delete the bloatware.
There is a whole section of "things to do with root" in the general sticky....
I mean, that IS the reason to root... to open up options.
Want to control which apps can open at startup? Want to tether? Want to flash a custom rom? Want to overclock the processor? Want to get rid of bloatware? Want to create backups of your phone for an "oh $hit" moment?
I really do not see any reason not to. Especially since it is so easy to get back to stock/non-root.
I owned a G1 previously and never thought rooting was for me. Less than 2 weeks after getting my Vibrant I decided to give rooting a go and instantly loved it. I was actually mad at myself afterwards for not even considering rooting my G1 and running stock for almost 2 years. I don't even use custom ROMs but I love being able to take screen caps, Mobile AP, and being able to block ads.
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Rooting is ALWAYS better.
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That depends on who is using the phone. I mean for someone that doesn't care for rom or doing anything other than making phone call, text, and browse the web, he or she will not really need to root. They will not find root better. Like my GF thinks root is too much work and hassle. For me, I think root is better since i actually like to try new roms and get updates before the OTA. Root will give you the ability to tether and use custom recovery to backup/restore.
Now to the OP, it just depends on what you are looking to do with your phone. If you are just using it to make calls and browse the web, you can just keep it unrooted. If you plan to use tethering or make any system changes, you will need to root. Also, if you root, it doesn't mean you have to do anything else to your phone. You can still keep it in its stock form and have the option to do whatever you want later. It's up to you.
Shakespeare Said it is better to root
Shakespeare says it is better to root Ahhhh .... Yes to Quote:
"to Root or not to root"... that is the question
"Is it better to suffer the slings and bloatware from the carrier" or to
Just Root the phone and make it more versatile, delete the bloat and do what and when you want to the phone YOU own
I personally never like outside controls on objects that I buy.... neither would Shakespeare
Rooting is always better unless you are only interested in the retail version only type device.
Listen to Kerry G he has it right
Tether
Just a note! I can tether with PDAnet using bluetooth and I'm not rooted.
Rooting isn't a requirment to tether, However there may be other options that do require root access.
Great feedback.
s15274n said:
There is a whole section of "things to do with root" in the general sticky....
I mean, that IS the reason to root... to open up options.
Want to control which apps can open at startup? Want to tether? Want to flash a custom rom? Want to overclock the processor? Want to get rid of bloatware? Want to create backups of your phone for an "oh $hit" moment?
I really do not see any reason not to. Especially since it is so easy to get back to stock/non-root.
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Lol, somehow i knew s15274n would reply. Not many people know that rooting is a good thing or a bad thing. They don't know that they got options. I've been reading and been surfing on XDA for a long time, I had an old handle here, when WinMo was popular. But then when i got promoted, I started to be on the road, i've lost touch (and my account i closed).
Many people I encounter across the country don't know why they should root, or skeptical to root. Since I got the Vibrant, i rooted it right away, and plenty of my clientèle are amazed of what that Android phone can do. Most have Crackberry, and I've led them to this site and found it very usefull.
They don't see the stickies, or such, so i made a thread that i could access on my phone to show them. They ask the same thing all the time, "Should I root/Why do you root/I'm afraid to root/I don't know Andriod" Most of them don't have the time to read stickies. SO, i tell them. But I tell them of what MY opinion is (and why I wanted to root), and so i decided to thread and ask other people's opinion on why they would root.
Great feedback guys
oka1 said:
Shakespeare says it is better to root Ahhhh .... Yes to Quote:
"to Root or not to root"... that is the question
"Is it better to suffer the slings and bloatware from the carrier" or to
Just Root the phone and make it more versatile, delete the bloat and do what and when you want to the phone YOU own
I personally never like outside controls on objects that I buy.... neither would Shakespeare
Rooting is always better unless you are only interested in the retail version only type device.
Listen to Kerry G he has it right
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Good one!
So since mytouch was updated to 2.2.1 is it worth rotting still?
My old mytouch was in pretty bad condition so i never decided to root it... Well it fell in a big puddle of water so im filed a insurance claim and will have my new one Monday. Seeing as it wont be in such beat up condition do you think its worth rooting?
What are some of the benefits from gaining root? Not much of a phone hacking guy lol.
Know my way around a computer very well just i do not know what kind of benefits you will gain once ur root your phone.
I'v seen many links on how to root it not sure which one will be the best as most of them seem a bit old. Not sure if i will get another original mytouch or one with the 3.5mm jack
Not much of a reading guy are you either? It would really only take you 5min to either search here or google benifits of rooting, reasons to root etc....
But, if you cant do that, Id stay away from trying to root yoru phone because you will probably just end up bricking it and blaming it on a hard working developer
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Not much of a reading guy are you either? It would really only take you 5min to either search here or google benifits of rooting, reasons to root etc....
But, if you cant do that, Id stay away from trying to root yoru phone because you will probably just end up bricking it and blaming it on a hard working developer
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Lol...
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I'm actually kind of afraid to root my device. I just don't want to mess anything up. And we only have one Rom. Is it right to just wait? I loved having root on my sensation but I really really don't want to mess up my galaxy.
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Assuming the method of obtaining root is safe, you don't really have anything to worry about by just having root access.
It's only dangerous if:
A) The method of obtaining root initially is dangerous in some way
B) You start giving apps root permission that may be malicious
C) You use root access to start modifying system files carelessly
So as long are you are careful and follow the advice from helpful users who have confirmed which apps are safe to disable and such, you should not have any problems.
I don't have my device yet, as it's pre-ordered on Verizon, but I could never live without root on an Android device. As soon as we get custom ROMs though, I'll be flashing one of those.
I am too....but for fear of messing up my warranty due to the flash counter
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I am too....but for fear of messing up my warranty due to the flash counter
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Exactly! I really don't want to screw my warranty up!
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If anything, give it a week or two to make sure your specific phone doesn't have any manufacturer defects that you'd have to return it for warranty on. If all looks good, go for root without worries. That's how I do it.
if you have sprint they dgaf about the flash count or even ir your rooted running a leaked jellybean rom they will still help you out and the flash process is simple just watch qbking77 videos on hius youtube channel root gives you access to more apps such at titanium backup and allows you to delete apps that you never use
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Exactly! I really don't want to screw my warranty up!
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Me either, which is why I tend to wait for my 1 year to be up before rooting.
At the very least, I wait for a safer, more painless root... Looking briefly at the root instructions for the SGSIII, it seems there are several opportunities to brick your phone if you F something up. Granted, if you're careful and you're remotely competent, it shouldn't happen, but it still can. I can't guarantee that I will make it the whole 1st year... but I'm pretty sure I will at least wait for one of those "download-this-program-which-roots-the-phone-for-you" type tools (a la "Unrevoked" on my beloved Incredible).
As for the warranty... I may be persuaded to root my phone earlier than the 1 year if there is a reliable unroot that leaves virtually no traces behind. I'm not sure what the "flash counter" is exactly, but unless it's something that shows up on the bootloader screen or anything like that, I'm sure Verizon won't notice. Unless anyone out there has had a different experience?
Besides the small amount of bloat that can be hidden with the launcher, the phone works flawless for me. If there was a way to go back to 100% stock on a T-999, I'd maybe do it.
Well I'm currently on T-Mobile. And I have had my device a week and have had no issues what so ever besides the black blotches I didn't even notice until reading the defect screen and I only have 2 tiny spots that don't bother me at all. I have never had to replace any Samsung device I have ever purchased. But I cannot say the same for HTC. That Damn counter is the only thing stopping me
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RampageRR said:
If anything, give it a week or two to make sure your specific phone doesn't have any manufacturer defects that you'd have to return it for warranty on. If all looks good, go for root without worries. That's how I do it.
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^This
and never delete apps, IMO it's always better to just "freeze" them with Titanium Backup, because they can always be restored.
If you delete a system app (aka uninstall it) many times it cannot be restored via Titanium, so it's always risky to do that.
I've decided to wait for a one click root option.
The actual process of rooting is simple, only problem is if u dont read or rush through it. No worries there.
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You guys should not be scare to mess things up... i mean the root its so easy .... but like the other guy said just wait for a week or two to see the results...
I'm holding off rooting as well to make sure there isn't any issues with the phone. And if everything is working properly I will root. I do love this device though. Came from the Samsung Vibrant who has served me well for the two years I had it.
Rooting itself is not dangerous. When someone has root and does something they don't know how to fix, that is when it becomes dangerous.
A gun isn't dangerous until it is loaded. You can give a gun to any idiot but you have to be careful with who you give bullets to.
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I agree, but there is always that what if? I suppose that's the risks we take
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You all just need to read all instructions and follow them perfectly. If you rely solely on One Click Roots and things of that nature, you'll never really learn how to work with Android. It might look daunting at first, but ADB and related stuff really isn't bad at all. Take the time to read and learn, and if in the rare case you should mess up, you'll have the knowledge of how to fix it yourself.
Also, don't be afraid to ask questions on how to do things rather than jump in head first and brick your phone. People here will be glad to help, just ignore the few idiots who flame you to make themselves feel better. We all started without knowledge at one point or another.
I've been trying to follow the workarounds for the AT&T S4 root access, but remain confused. There seem to be so many different ideas / methods to gain root access that I'm totally lost.
Today; the pooch may have really gotten screwed. My S4 finally forced the 1337UCUFNC1 FOTA onto my phone, despite my trying to block it.
So; bottom line is: Am I completely screwed with regard to ever being able to root my device? I'm know I'm going to get a ton of rude comments about "reading" and "searching" but there's so many different opinions that have be debunked that I can't keep it straight.
So, my question is: Is there a "tried and true" method to root it that's not going to either brick it or cause other unwanted effects that are worse than the cure? I don't really care about custom ROM's nor voiding my KNOX warranty. I just don't want to make a bad situation worse.
Reason being; I have to use Total Recall that provides two way recording without using the speaker and mic. It's the nature of my job. I can't afford to be without it. My Note 3 is a $700.00 paperweight after having to warranty it out. I can't afford for that to happen to my S4.
Is there anyone willing to provide some useful help without ostracizing me? I successfully rooted a Motorola Atrix HD, so it's not my first time; but much of what I've read so far has been confusing regarding the S4.
Thanks in advance!
Jim
Just use the one click towelroot as seen in the other threads. I'm also on NC1 and rooted last night. Works like a charm.
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Oh; that's awesome news!
Thanks!
Unbelievable!!! It worked in minutes. Verified root access. Installed SU Pro and Busybox Pro.
Now; I want to get rid of some bloat! And, freeze any future updates from robbing me of my new found freedom!
Super Kudos to everyone! This is wonderful!
I can't wait to get home and try it on my Note 3! That would rock my face!
Thanks again! Donation coming this Friday on pay day!
I need help with rooting my phone have no idea what im doing and would like the benifits of rooting
WARCHILDXD said:
I need help with rooting my phone have no idea what im doing and would like the benifits of rooting
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Please use search function.
Benefits of rooting comes at the price of no safety net. If you state "I have no idea what am I doing" I am not sure if it is safe for you to get rid of that net - you might brick your device either by trying to root or later by deleting some stuff you shouldn't have deleted ...
What i ment by having no clue is loke i dont know how to root i wont delete anything important im familiar with some kinds of software . Ive researched what rooting can do and. I like the benifits loke using different configurations and stuff but its the brick thing that im not liking if i brick it is there a chance that it won't work at all
WARCHILDXD said:
What i ment by having no clue is loke i dont know how to root i wont delete anything important im familiar with some kinds of software . Ive researched what rooting can do and. I like the benifits loke using different configurations and stuff but its the brick thing that im not liking if i brick it is there a chance that it won't work at all
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Folow this guide to root.
Bricking the device means that the software did not install correctly and there is nothing to boot. Pretty much like you don't have any OS on your phone.
I've bricked my old phone once and fixed it. It's nothing serious as long as you read carefully.
But is there a chance that it cant be fixed at all or is it repairable every time
There is always a chance that the device will end up bricked so badly that nothing will fix it. But that is the risk you take when attempting to gain root access to the system. So if you're not willing to take the risk, don't root.
So if i research the hell out of rooting find all the proper methods will it be as less likely to brick as someone who knows very little or is it just a gamble every time cause i dont like leaving things to chance especially will 300 odd pound
Research is something that people coming to this site should be doing anyway. You will be far less likely to brick than someone who plunges in without doing research, and doing research is a very sensible thing to do on an expensive smartphone.
I have modified......
1xGalaxy W
1xGalaxy Ace
2xGalaxy S2
1xGalaxy S4
1xGalaxy S5
1xGalaxy Tab 2.7
All but one of those devices was modified without issue using research and resources taken from THIS SITE. The device that I had problems with was one of the S2s.....The only reason I had problems with it was because of a faulty USB socket (which I wasn't aware of at the time). Modifying any device will ALWAYS carry an element of risk, but as the previous poster said, doing research FIRST will help to minimise the risk. None of the Devs here will intentionally create harmful software....The devs and this site itself are too highly respected within this community to put up with that kind of BS.
If you *do* have an issue, it's (probably) more likely to be hardware related than software related.
So, as others have said........
RESEARCH, READ, LEARN and UNDERSTAND......before actually DOING.....
Oh,and don't rely too heavily on 'other' websites as they all probably either directly or indirectly got their information from XDA (I should know......A couple of guides I wrote and posted exclusively on XDA have appeared word for word on other sites).......
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