I have started a dialog with Rogers whereby I am asking nicely for them to honor the licenses which are listed in:
[Home]->[Menu]->[Settings]->[About phone]->[Legal information]->[Open source licenses]
The first source code I have requested is for the file /kernel listed in the above mentioned [Open source licenses].
An email sent nearly 24 hours ago has not been acknowledged by Rogers, despite the fact that their Contact Us email portal indicated that I would receive an acknowledgement within 24 hours.
Consequently, I called Rogers and managed to get a Rogers representative to email me back indicating that next business day (Monday) s/he would try to point me to the right person within Rogers.
Let's see if we can change what shows up when you search "Open Source" on the Rogers web site:
http://www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=search&Ntt=Open+Source
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I have started a dialog with Rogers whereby I am asking nicely for them to honor the licenses which are listed in:
[Home]->[Menu]->[Settings]->[About phone]->[Legal information]->[Open source licenses]
The first source code I have requested is for the file /kernel listed in the above mentioned [Open source licenses].
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The actual kernel is written by HTC, but good idea, ask Rogers to point us in the right direction because we haven't gotten anywhere asking HTC directly.
Here's an update for you. I've been contacting HTC customer service for a month now, and I've had my issue escalated to a VP at HTC America. I relayed to him all the hassle I've been put through for something they're legally responsible to provide, and the story I heard is as such:
HTC was asked by Rogers to make some last minute changes, but they didn't specify what. They were also asked to withhold source code for reasons that HTC wouldn't comment on. Basically, the representative confirmed that Rogers specifically asked HTC to do this. So I had the issue escalated to a VP at HTC America. After a month of hassle, and the final escalation earlier this week, here is the email response I got back today from the VP today.
David,
Thank you very much for your note and more importantly, thank you for your business and loyalty to HTC products. We owe all of our success to you and customers like you. I also want to thank you for taking the time to write me personally and communicating specific areas where we can improve in our customer service. I will investigate the issue and get back to you by Tuesday, 7/28 at the latest. Additionally, I will have our Head of Customer Service drive our Call Centers to do a better job of communicating, particularly on this issue. My apologies for the time you've had to invest in this to date.
All the best,
Jason
Jason B. Mackenzie
Vice President, North America Region
E-Mail: (Removed, but not hard to find)
So while it isn't "source code in my hand", it's at least *something*. I'll provide more info as it becomes available to me for sure.
Wow, bullet dodging everywhere. I talked to some folks from Google and they don't have the code we are looking for, that's for certain. HTC blames Google, Google blames HTC, HTC blames Rogers. How complex is this problem really? It's probably 5 lines of code that they changed. We need to get past their buffer-wall of customer support and talk to someone in engineering.
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HTC was asked by Rogers to ... withhold source code ...confirmed that Rogers specifically asked HTC to do this.
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So Rogers asked HTC to break the law and they complied?
Can we get this confirmed in writing? An email (with headers) from an official at HTC stating that such a request was made regarding kernel source would help. If we do that, we would have the silver bullet we need to go after robbers AND htc in civil court -- think class action, and we should get some major kernel contributors and open source advocates on board-- I'm sure that LOTS of people would LOVE to take up this cause.
My prediction: if there was a class action civil case organized naming rogers and htc as defendants, htc will fold and hand out the source, probably quickly. Rogers... maybe not because they're bastards.
I'm pretty sure they are having some meetings about that internally at HTC right now because I inquired about the source from HTC 3 days ago and they still haven't replied to me, not even a canned response. I'm pretty sure they are investigating right now how they can give us source while not giving away whatever they are trying to hide.
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So Rogers asked HTC to break the law and they complied?
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No, I don't believe this is a violation of the GPL, and some quick googling tells me that the FSF agrees (see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowNDA)
Even though Rogers would be in violation for distributing a modified kernel without source, HTC would not be.
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No, I don't believe this is a violation of the GPL, and some quick googling tells me that the FSF agrees (see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowNDA)
Even though Rogers would be in violation for distributing a modified kernel without source, HTC would not be.
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You're correct, and unless somebody who has code in the linux kernel they're shipping wants to file suit, we can't go after them legally as we aren't representative of somebody being damaged by their copyright infringement, despite that it hurts us. Stupid copyright law, even under the GPL, requires an author of the material to go after the company.
HTC designed the phone, and customized it for Rogers. I'm not honestly sure who bears the legal responsibility of releasing the source code for the GPL'd components, either Rogers or HTC, but one of them does and HTC is seemingly claiming responsibility for it.
Since you want email headers, here they are. Yes, I have blocked out email addresses (ONLY), as I don't need any more levels of spam nor does Mr. Mackenzie, I'm sure. I will post the full headers, unedited, in a .txt file somewhere if requested and link to it, I'm not trying to hide anything, I'm just not comfortable posting some things on public forums. I also did not disclose to Mr. Mackenzie that I'd be cross-posting his email reply anywhere, so the least I can do out of respect is not publicly post his email unless it's warranted.
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Something tells me that the software they are referring to is NOT the kernel and is most likely the custom apps and other software on the device. Your VP probably has no idea at all what a kernel is, especially if he wants to refer you to customer support. This should have been sent straight to their engineering staff. If you can get them to clarify this, maybe we should send the story to some huge site that loves this kind of stuff like Slashdot. Get the community nice and outraged
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Something tells me that the software they are referring to is NOT the kernel and is most likely the custom apps and other software on the device. Your VP probably has no idea at all what a kernel is, especially if he wants to refer you to customer support. This should have been sent straight to their engineering staff. If you can get them to clarify this, maybe we should send the story to some huge site that loves this kind of stuff like Slashdot. Get the community nice and outraged
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Oh, I totally agree, and I sent a similar email to the VP of Engineering as well, but have not gotten a reply. In my email, I explained what a kernel was, and that the open source license in the Legal section of the device specifically covered /kernel which was all I wanted the source to. I'm not holding my breath I'll get something on the 28th besides a "we're still working on it" but at least it's something, and ultimately, I hope it does lead to the source we need. This is an excerpt of what I wrote to him, so I'm hoping that even if he doesn't understand it, it's enough for him to get over to the staff who does. I assumed that since it hasn't been released yet, it is likely NOT an Engineering decision, but being held up in Legal somewhere, which is why I went this route as well.
The code I'm asking for is specifically covered under the GNU GPL Open Source license agreement (there's an entry for /kernel specifically in the Legal section of my phone) that states all source code used to generate that file MUST be provided upon request (Section 3). All I am asking for is the kernel source code, nothing more, nothing less. I do fully understand that HTC has a lot of Android modifications that are not open source, or publicly available, but the /kernel file is explicitly required to have source code available as by the terms of the GNU GPL.
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At least as a VP, he's in a position to comment and help if he so chooses. We'll see where it goes, all I can do...
I'm sure the FSF wouldn't mind knowing what's going on. ESR loves a good shuffle and the FSF COULD get a core member of the dev team or maybe a contributor or even Linus etc to bring it to the attention of Rogers and HTC that there is grounds to pursue further action of they remain non compliant.
I'm just saying there might be other avenues once we've seen how this one plays out. I'd hate to kick a wasp nest if there are valid and honest attempts to rectify the situation calmly. It could very well be just a case of honest ignorance that needs to be schooled back to a level of understanding
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I'm sure the FSF wouldn't mind knowing what's going on. ESR loves a good shuffle and the FSF COULD get a core member of the dev team or maybe a contributor or even Linus etc to bring it to the attention of Rogers and HTC that there is grounds to pursue further action of they remain non compliant.
I'm just saying there might be other avenues once we've seen how this one plays out. I'd hate to kick a wasp nest if there are valid and honest attempts to rectify the situation calmly. It could very well be just a case of honest ignorance that needs to be schooled back to a level of understanding
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That's exactly why I haven't contacted them yet, and nobody (that I know of) is considering a lawsuit. I'm certainly not. If my attempts to get through to this VP fail, I have a few other contacts I can put pressure on to get HTC to provide it. Turning it over to the FSF and communities like Slashdot are an option I have considered, and may do at some point if HTC stops acting in good faith, but for now I believe they're either acting in good faith at the higher levels (the email reply from the VP confirms this IMO) or, really good at blowing smoke up my ass. Either way, I'll tolerate for now and have faith.
We totally have to consider that big companies like HTC need some time to turn around so let's all wait patiently for that 28th date and see what comes out of it. Then we can decide where to take this further, thanks alot PhaseBurn, maybe something will come out of this
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We totally have to consider that big companies like HTC need some time to turn around so let's all wait patiently for that 28th date and see what comes out of it. Then we can decide where to take this further, thanks alot PhaseBurn, maybe something will come out of this
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No problem. Technical support is officially a dead end for this route, too. I just got a voicemail back from HTC's advanced support department saying "Technical Support does not have any way to distribute that [the Roger's kernel source] at the moment, so we've asked for our headquarters to weigh in and see what their official response is." They went on to say I've been put on a tracking list for when they do have their answer from headquarters, and when they have a response from HQ, they'll contact me when they have the official answer. So at least we know bugging tech support about it won't get us anywhere, but it will continue to draw attention to the issue at least... And yes, I have the VM saved as a .wav file just in case it's needed...
HQ would be China (Or Taiwan?) and I'm pretty sure they are the one with the goods so this is good enough news.
HQ is either Houstin, Texas, where HTC America is located, or, Taiwan, where HTC's world wide HQ is...
The HTC Dream platform was designed by HTC Taiwan, and released to HTC America and HTC Europe for sales and support, so I'm not sure if it'd be HTC America or HTC Worldwide that has the code for the Rogers version of the device - there are subtle hardware differences between that device, and the other HTC Dreams released world-wide. I don't know to what extent HTC America and HTC Europe have engineering departments of their own, for instance. If I had to guess, I'd say it'd be HTC Taiwan that has the code we're in need of, and is the group that engineered the Rogers Dream/Magic platforms specifically. Of course that's just speculation on my part. I'm sure you all can speculate as well as I can, I've posted pretty much all I have, and right now, I'm just waiting until the 28th for a reply. I'll post what I get when I get it...
So I got my reply from Jason at HTC just a few minutes ago.
The news is good - very good, but will require some patience...
David,
Thanks for your patience. As a follow-up to our last exchange I have done some research and found the following. As you noted, the Linux kernel in the Rogers version of the HTC Dream and Magic is slightly modified from the standard Android kernel - and we fully understand that granting access to this source code is important to you AND the developer community. Our team is currently putting the proper systems in place on our website to ensure that we have a robust, reliable platform for sharing specific Linux kernels. We expect that this will be in place by the first week of August on the htc..com website. I have asked Hsiao-wen Lin (who heads up my Product Management team) to personally e-mail you the link as soon as it's available). Additionally, from your email, we realize that our customer support team was not completely up to speed on this issue, and we are relaying the necessary information so that they can provide a more informed response to other inquiries like yours. We strive to deliver best-in-class service to all of our stakeholders, so we thank you for bringing this to our attention.
Thanks again for your business!
Jason
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So another 2 weeks. I'll post the link as soon as I get it, but at least we have our answer. They will be releasing it.
... did everyone else smile significantly when they read this? I love it when people and companies just 'get it', even if not every link in the chain is up to date. Great news and a serious dept of gratitude for doing the leg work PB!!
Wow, so basically they just didn't think about it and/or waited for someone to ask for it before setting up something on the website. HTC is playing it very safe and I can't blame them.
That is fantastic news, first week of August happens to be next week so it's not that bad of a wait, especially if they intend to implement some sort of source control system on their website.
Hopefully the sources will be integrated in the main Android Kernel assuming they were actually useful and not only meant to block us.
Wow, that's great. Good job and thanks.
This was posted recently in a norwegian financial paper. It is Norwegian.. dont worry, translation by Google..
If someone bother to find other sources.. post it.
http://www.dagensit.no/article1929919.ece
THIS PHONE WAS REALLY JUST A FEINT"
"Okay, it worked. Congratulations - we stop. " Google chief reveals the real purpose of Google phone.
Google CEO Eric Schmidt surprised when the company a year and a half ago, said it would create a mobile phone with Google's own operating system. Now he says that it was with the Nexus One, and it was a success so it will be with this phone only.
Several mobile operators announced that they would sell it, but ldidn't. But the sales figure for the actual phone was not the point.
It was made to speed up the mobile manufacturers so that they will make phones that could use multiple operating systems.
- And it did. It was a success, so we do not need to create another. We will look at it as positive, but people criticized us heavily for it. I called the board and said 'ok, it worked. Congratulations - we stop, "says Schmidt of the British newspaper the Daily Telegraph.
Eric Schmidt
Same with Chrome
The newspaper says Schmidt, Google is considering creating its own small, portable computers to speed the spread of the online operating system's, Chrome OS. Well checking if others succeed first.
- We have talked about it. We have a reference for specifications of Chrome's OS and hardware partners, we have in place. It is on schedule and will take place later this year. But we'll see how the partners do it first. I'm guessing that we do not have to do it. Computer software industry is different from the mobile industry. PC industry is accustomed to working with Microsoft, while the mobile industry was not accustomed to jobbbe with software.
The customer decides
Schmidt also respond to criticism about privacy. Google collects unimaginable amount of data around the world, and has also been criticized for gathering personal data from open wireless networks as they have traveled around the streets to take photos to map their services.
- I think criticism is fine. I think the criticism informs us, it makes us better. It bothers me not at all.
Schmidt says he understands the concern for privacy, because so many people are so much online and leave information at all times. Google uses this to direct ads to web surf visitor places and preferences, and ads is the Google main income source.
But Schmidt said the public will tell if they do not like it.
- All our surveys show that most are satisfied with our policy.
And the message is the message no one wants to hear: the reality is that we make decisions based on what the average user to tell us, and we notice us. And why you should trust us that if we break that trust, people will immediately make use of other services, "said Schmidt, and believes the public is not very loyal when they do not like something.
- So we are very keen to continue to have confidence in users, "he said
Ahh.. allready posted..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715623
Close this..
if this were a real printed publication i wouldn't pick up dog crap with it.
i struggle to understand why you are taking this danish news source so literally.
google has a real road map for chromium and android. why would they pump and dump two major long-term initiatives that have been and will be wildly successful and above all financially rewarding?
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if this were a real printed publication i wouldn't pick up dog crap with it.
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Is anyone else watching the web 2.0 summit ? gingerbread is being discussed!
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Just tuned in. Link if anyone else is interested:
http://www.web2summit.com/web2010
Thanks paul
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OMG Gingerbread next few weeks.
Chrome os next few months... gingie next few weeks!
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Liveblog in case anyone missed it:
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Live Blogging Google CEO Eric Schmidt At Web 2.0 Summit
http://searchengineland.com/live-blogging-google-ceo-eric-schmidt-at-web-2-0-summit-56025
Nov 15, 2010 at 5:31pm ET by Danny Sullivan
Google CEO Eric Schmidt will be speaking today at the Web 2.0 Summit in San Francisco. I’m here and will be live blogging his remarks, when the session begins.
Schmidt is set to speak at 2:35pm Pacific, and he’ll be interviewed on stage by John Battelle and Tim O’Reilly. Live blogging to start shortly. There’s also a live stream here.
John asks about news from a new device from Google…
Eric: we don’t make devices
John: A new device powered by software.
Eric: I have an unannounced device here. Showing an Android phone, looks like the Nexus 2 / Nexus S that’s been rumored. Showing how you tap the phone on a Google Place icon, a picture of one in real life, one that has I guess MSE? encoding, and he taps and it finds where he’s out.
This will be in the new Gingerbread operating system that will come out in the next few weeks. Secure element in it.
John: you could do payment?
Eric: Yes, industry term is tap-and-pay.
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Idea you could take these into stores and replace credit cards.
John: There are tons and tons of credit card numbers, say Amazon has, does this change the game.
Eric: we see ourselves as a technology provider, not trying to compete with those others.
Tim: But still if you’re doing payment, someone’s doing the processing. You expect to partner in that.
Eric: Yes.
Tim: But you have Google Checkout
Eric: That’s a piece of this. Might be an NFE chip, by the way, he mentioned it again. Oh, and all your hot Android phones out there now won’t likely have this chip already so….
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Tim asks about search, Eric says “forget search” then jokes in the new regime you have to label jokes — IE he’s joking about forgetting search but goes on to say this is beyond search in that if you’re walking down down the street, offers and other info can just be presented to you without having to search.
John: What are you dissatisfied about with Android?
Eric: Like to have more emphasis on application side, but it’s tough, because you have to get volume of handsets and the platform first, then the apps follow.
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Tim: how about search as a competitive advantage in trying to find apps.
Eric: We don’t think of it that way. People are obsessed on the competitive landscape rather than the focus on the market overall.
John: What about the divorce from the carriers, something he feels Jobs did right with iPhone, I don’t want your stuff on our phone.
Eric: Agrees with some. Talks there are open and closed system. We’re willing to let vendors do things, we think that’s the right model. So he kind of dodges it.
John: When you closed the store, you said there would never be a new model.
Eric: I said Nexus 2 (IE, if a Nexus S comes out, don’t say he said it wouldn’t).
John: What about environment now with talent, the pay raises given out recently.
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Eric: The origins of the raise were in the spring. Still coming off the recession, made some core investments, looking at acquisitions, then looking also at sharing of success with others in the company.
Found there are people at Google even if well paid still struggling with sky-high property prices, so this is component about that. But more than that, “we just thought it was good for the whole company.”
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John: What about trying to maintain the start-up culture.
Eric: we hire a couple hundred of people a week. reports Google is losing talent is “poor writing” by journalists, in his opinion. Oh, and he wasn’t joking when he said that.
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John: Google’s been in hot water with some agencies around the world, in some responses to then, you said it’s our job to push up to the “creepy” line.
Eric: again, this is an example of quotes being taken … i wish I could push everything up to YouTube so people can see it. The point I was saying is that there is clearly a line that we should not cross it.
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We’ve gotten onto the auto-driving cars that Google has. Sorry, had to copy stuff over and swear didn’t miss that much. Anyway, Eric says that they think driving cars in this way are legal by various reads.
John’s getting back to the line, leading Eric to say the main issue is that society is going to have to confront all types of uncomfortable questions about privacy, need for policing and all types of issues because so much is coming online or being monitored, such as street camera (run by the government) in Britain.
John: But you have to (Google) make some decisions about products yourself, as with Street View
Eric: We learned that you can’t just rush a product out. The engineers’ political views, for example, might not match government views. Started with face blurring and license blurring (actually, I didn’t think that was part of the initial launch). Most countries was OK. But some wanted houses deleted, and that was added. Still in Germany, not enough, a permanent opt-out of your house. It was a reasonable accomodation to the local sensitivities. People there now love Street View. Things this is how things will go forward.
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John: are you planning a set of products around social that may be seen as competitive to Facebook.
Eric: because of this obsession with competition, everything we do seems competitive. I’d rather answer the question by saying we agree that social information is important, in particular the name value graphs. That link structure has great value. The classic example is in search, where with your permission, if information you provide is being used. And by the way, that’s a deal Facebook and Microsoft announced.
Tim: Didn’t Mark say they didn’t use you because they saw you as competitive in your space.
Eric: I can’t speak for Mark.
John: Why not use Facebook Connect. There are clearly business reason you aren’t doing that. You don’t want to strengthen Facebook.
Eric: That’s not literally how we think. One of the fundamental principles on the internet is that this kind of information is open. So I worry, as a general response, not just about Facebook, that things are developing to keep too much information private.
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John: Can you take a minute to educate on how came to joint statement with Verizon on net neutrality and different views on wired and wireless web.
Eric: Which is not what we said. Let’s define the terms. Net neutrality has meant if you have one video type like video, vendors won’t discriminate one video provider over others. But it has always allowed data in general to be discriminated against.
So the problem with the telcos is that they don’t want to be regulated. they say they’re OK with this, but they don’t want the govt writing regulations when they’ve just left being regulated.
So our response was lets look at wired, where you often have less choice if only one choice, so less competitive. We did that to encourage more conversation in the industry.
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Tim: Location is a key part of mobile. You recently moved Marissa Mayer to a new position….
Eric: She was promoted…
Tim: We see more and more focus there?
Eric: Absolutely. Google Maps is phenomenal. It’s changed his own view of the world.
Tim: No question, just walking with Google Maps on the phone, you’re never lost.
John: Google TV just recently in market, how’s it going, what’s the beef with the networks hating on it?
Eric: Finally at a point where you can have computer-powered TVs that work, with browser, etc. As I understand the industry’s concerned, do you realize you taking a dumb TV and making it smart, one said. Yes, and the idea is that the TV will be harmed by all this access too to internet content. I disagree. I think people will watch more TV.
Tim: But they’ll also watch through other venues, like Netflix.
Eric: But Netflix pays a pretty penny for that content to the owners. But what do you think will fundamentally happen with TV, they’ll go to the web and watch stolen content or go to watch more TV. I think more TV. Stresses also that the TV now becomes a major new platform.
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Q&A: What’s the next billion dollar rev opp for Google?
Eric: The next large one is clearly in the display business.
Question: You probably talked with networks before you launched Google TV and they were on-board [actually, they weren't].
Eric: Says reading more drama than there is. A whole bunch of people are happy. There are some concerned, and you’d expect that. But, “we want to make the revenue larger” for everyone and is “quite confident” that “we’ll get through this one.”
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Does anyone have a video of the interview? The blog post seems mixed opinion with quotes.
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Does anyone have a video of the interview? The blog post seems mixed opinion with quotes.
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The full 45 minute interview is now on YouTube:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/16/nexus-s-teaser-by-eric-schmidt-now-available-on-video/
Sony Chief Executive Kazuo Hirai has confirmed recent reports that the company will be targeting flagship smartphones over entry-level models. Speaking to Bloomberg, he said that “we basically are out of the feature-phone business and in the Android-based smartphone business. We are more in toward the high end of the market as opposed to trying to get into the commoditized portion.”
“We need to have products that wow people, move people emotionally,” Hirai said. He went on to say that this focus on high-end models could help to turn the mobile business into a profit driver for the company. “That’s why we are in this business, and that’s why we invested heavily in the business. I believe we still have a lot of room to grow,” Hirai said.
Sony Mobile is currently forecasting to sell 34 million units in the year ending 31 March and sold 8.8 million handsets in the three months to September 2012. Hirai has increased research & development for smartphones, which should deliver higher margins going forward if executed successfully.
However, analyst views remain mixed on Sony’s chances of catching up. “Hirai’s plan to move the unit into profits seems to be a pipe-dream. Competition in high-end smartphones is only going to get tougher,” said Amir Anvarzadeh from BGC Partners. Another analyst, Hideki Yasuda, from Ace Securities said “it’s going to be hard for Sony to catch up. Still, the market is expected to continue growing, and that will probably enable Sony to boost sales.”
This is definitely not device related. Please use the general forums for posting unrelated information. Also please don't post up every news article you read as it's just cluttering a forum people use for useful information.
Thanks
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（中央社記者劉建邦台北市18日電）35歲許姓男子在知名論壇張貼未上市hTC手機保護貼紙包裝和圖片，警方今天說，接獲宏達電提告，前往逮人，訊後送辦。
刑事局表示，2月間接獲宏達電提告，有民眾在Mobile01網站張貼未上市產品hTC One M8手機保護貼紙包裝及M8手機的圖片外觀，供網友瀏覽和散佈，因侵害公司商業權益，報警處理。
刑事局說，因hTC One M8手機正式發表期間為3月25日，且各手機大廠對新型手機產品競爭激烈，新型手機型式、功能，還未公開發表前，均保密到家。
警方表示，宏達電對未上市hTC One M8手機外型圖檔遭民眾在網路公開散佈、流傳格外重視，才向網友提告，追查不法散佈人士。
刑事局多月偵查後，掌握許男犯案具體事證，4月15日持新北地院核發搜索票前往許嫌位在新北市板橋區住所搜索。
警方當場查扣犯案電腦主機、含侵權圖檔的手機等證據，訊後把許男移送新北地檢署偵辦。
刑事局呼籲民眾應尊重智慧財產權，切勿在網路論壇中公佈未公開訊息以免觸法
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( Central News Agency reporters Liu Jian Bang Taipei 18 (Xinhua) ) 35 -year-old man surnamed Xu at the well-known forum posting unlisted hTC phone protection sticker packaging and pictures, police said today received HTC sue , to arrest people, hearing evacuation do .
CIB said indirectly for February sue by HTC , there are people in Mobile01 website posted unlisted phone protection products hTC One M8,M8 phone sticker packaging and appearance of images for users to browse and spread against the company due to commercial interests , alarm processing .
CIB said that during the phone because hTC One M8 was officially released on March 25 , and each of the new mobile phone handset manufacturers product competition, new mobile phone type, function , has not been published before , are confidential home.
Police said on HTC phones unlisted hTC One M8 public appearance was at drawing public distribution network , spread extra attention before they sue to users , who traced the illegal spread .
After months of investigation CIB , master Xu male offenders solid evidence , held April 15 in North District Court issued a new search warrant to promise too is located in New Taipei Itabashi home search .
Police seized the spot mainframe computer crimes , including mobile phones and other evidence of infringement drawing , after hearing the men transferred to the new North promised Prosecutors Office for investigation.
CIB urged the public to respect the intellectual property rights , do not publish the message in order to avoid conflict with the law are not public forums in the Internet
... what?
Can someone who can read the actual chinese please provide a summary? lol
It sounds like HTC filed suit against a guy for leaking the HTC One M8 prior to the official introduction.
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Leaking things that could help with s-off????