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Immersed in Information (and drowning!)

Hello All,
First off, I want to thank everyone whos cooked and added information on these forums.
Also I want to state beforehand that for the past 3 days I have gone through countless pages of threads to try and learn as much as I can on ROMs & the such.... its a lot of info! Thats not so much the problem, as I have a pretty good idea now on how to do it (though haven't decided on a custom ROM yet), but the problem is some of it so scattered you can easily have 20 tabs open and either get confused or something.
I have been unable to find (and if there is forgive me for not searching well enough), a thread, topic, or FAQ which would state where you can get programs (ie. Windows Live/Messenger, Internet Sharing, etc) that some ROMs remove. Thats really what has held me back so far from flashing a new ROM, as I really like some of these, but they might be missing certain things I would need (like messenger, or even maybe 5 fav?) but I can't find exact information on all of this.
Edit: I understand if I want to find a program I can just Google it. But what if I don't know theres this awesome program I have never tried or heard before? Can't google a program I don't know! That's why I ask if there is a thread, site that would list them all, or a good amount. I know there couple threads here and there that display default HTC ones, and maybe some odd others.
If anyone can please help me out, or direct me where I can find more info on this I would be really grateful! I might have future questions from then on but i'll definitely be searching to keep the asking to a minimum.
One other question I do have right now is the Radio version. I know theres a thread on a current version, but I see some ppl already have a version higher than that.. is there a place where you can find the current version always, and also, when u flash ROM, does that update your Radio too.. or is it seperate?
Thank you in advance all who help!
I really do hope to be part of this community.

Well I took the dive (woot!) and HARDSPL my phone succesfully. Just finished flashing the default OEM rom and upgrading to the newest radio as well without any problems thanks to all the info you guys provided.
I can't wait to get home (where I have really bad reception) and see if this truely helped me. Im in the mood now to play with all your ROMs as well (I feel like a kid at christmas).
Update: Flashed Open 7.7 and loving it. just need to get used to this brave new world..
Status:
Play and get used to this!
My only concern, and one i cannot find so far is.. at the moment i have no MyFav program.. if i call my currents fav i had will T-Mobile still know, or do i have to have the myfav program installed on my phone so i don't get my minutes charged for calling them?
New concern is i keep getting a text from "4670" saying WCI 1.1 111 every so often, is that normal when you get this program?
Another question: When I install programs, must they always be installed ON the Device, or can I install them on the Storage Card? If i do will they work fine? (or some u can, some u can't.. and some examples)?
Sorry for all the questions!

I install all my programs to storage card. haven't had any problems there. I deleted myfavs because t-mobile stores your favs on their system, so when you call a fav their system should recognize the number. the myfavs program uses memory is why I deleted it.
the text you are getting I don't know what to tell you on that.
sounds like you have the rest down pretty good

????
How did you delete the my fav program? any assistance would be helpful

So many questions

Im sorry but this may be a long post and I dont even know if it goes here..
I had a wing about 1 year ago and i sold it because i had no idea that this web site even here and i had no idea how to use it. I mainly got rid of it because it was really slow and the touch screen you had to use that stylus. Now that I found this website I want to get the wing again. I have been reading and reading for like the past week and i read the guides and for some reason I still dont understand how to flash new roms and everything. so im wondering if someone would be willing to help me step by step over aim or something when i get my wing sometime with in the next week.
also i see a lot of people are having problems with the wing with applications not working and sms and mms and all other things not working and all that.. is that something that happens when you flash a new rom or what is the cause?
also is there a facebook or myspace application i can put on my wing? i am addicted to facebook and myspace..
also if a new rom is flashed would i still be able to download applications from other websites like handago and they will still work with the rom?
I think thats all the questions that i have.. if i have more i will post something else. Thanks in advance for the responses that i may get! everything is appreciated.

abenaa said:
Im sorry but this may be a long post and I dont even know if it goes here..
I had a wing about 1 year ago and i sold it because i had no idea that this web site even here and i had no idea how to use it. I mainly got rid of it because it was really slow and the touch screen you had to use that stylus. Now that I found this website I want to get the wing again. I have been reading and reading for like the past week and i read the guides and for some reason I still dont understand how to flash new roms and everything. so im wondering if someone would be willing to help me step by step over aim or something when i get my wing sometime with in the next week.
also i see a lot of people are having problems with the wing with applications not working and sms and mms and all other things not working and all that.. is that something that happens when you flash a new rom or what is the cause?
also is there a facebook or myspace application i can put on my wing? i am addicted to facebook and myspace..
also if a new rom is flashed would i still be able to download applications from other websites like handago and they will still work with the rom?
I think thats all the questions that i have.. if i have more i will post something else. Thanks in advance for the responses that i may get! everything is appreciated.
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1 app
havent run into an app that is solely for for those but i use opera mini its free and works wonderful for other web pages as well
2 install
yep the chef who cooks the roms here do not lock installations on aps

so any rom that i put on there i can put any applications on there that i want also?
also for the touch roms does it make it easier to use your finger? i remember when i had the wing before i always had to use the stylus.. anyone out there willing to help me when i get my wing to flash the roms..
I wish that there were more pictures on here of the roms so i will know what i am flashing.

that is a question of the interface usually u will still have to use the stylus but some of the roms UI are finger friendly
for question 1 yes
for question 2 im available to help usually anytime around 9pm est (thats when i get home from work lol) im pretty sure that there is ppl out the who is willing to help as well

thanks.. what is the best way to get ahold of you?? i will def. be needing someones help

i will setup yahoo in a little bit that should be the best way to reach me

ok that would be great

i got a Question um with cooked rom for the tmobile wing have a working myfave bc i flashed the manilla rom and i cant get myface tab to work

if i remember manilla will not work with the fav 5 today icon since it doesnt support them

New to everything regarding PDA and XDA (looking for noob friends ;) )

Hi all,
Yeeeah, so the Leo was finally announced at the major/best 3G network in Denmark, the worldwide operator "3". And thats awesome, so of course I hit my wallet and cashed out and got the phone yesterday. Brilliant.
Got the phone in my hand, my god, its beautiful and all, its my first PDA phone so I'm very noobish and overwhelmed by everything, but I'm lovin' it so far! Okay, well I started looking around on the big www and came across this fantastic site and now I'm thinking, I wanna get involved with this shizzle and start cooking - or at least start looking at the menu!!
But I realize that I don't know anything about how to do all this, so started looking around in the Leo Wiki, Tips and Tricks sticky and so on but I feel that its all very comprehensive and I simply don't know where to start, and I don't think the (otherwise awesome) guides are as extensive as could, at least not for my understanding. I haven't come across a newb forum/thread where all the very, very basics are introduced/discussed, so I'm thinking: any noobs out there? or post-noobs? who wanna share some of their mighty wisdom and experience with me? (yeah, I want some Leo-friends)
Okay, so I found a few things I wanna try:
From Leo hints and tricks sticky:
7. Get the old Task Manager Back
To be able to really close programs using the X instead of just 'minimizing' the program and leaving it in memory,
install Duttys HTC Task Manager (attached below), restart and the X is back. Also in Settings you can configure its function.
8. Add Task Manager to Home Screen Quick Links
Copy the hidden TaskMgr.exe file from your Windows folder to your Start Menu/Programs folder. Now it's possible to place a shortcut on your Manila today and you can open/close running programs with ease.
So how do I install this dutty cab? I mean I downloaded it, but where do I unpack it, and how do I run it on my phone?
Okay, next thing:
The location on "my today" is wrong, I saw in the tips and tricks that a lot of users had issues with this, but how can that be? There isn't any way to fix it, cause mine is showing that i'm about 15 clicks away from where I really am, but the navigator works fine? :S
3rd thing:
My network only provided me with a 2gb sdhc card, so if I want to tuck in a 16gb baby how will it work because the OS is stored on the sdhc card, or is it only in the ROM?
Another thing, I see the ROM upgrade from the danish HTC website is newer than the one installed on my phone, but do you think that I should upgrade to the 1.6 which is leaked here, or should I start with the HTC official rom from the website?
WARNING: some danish might appear when clicking here (this is the danish HTC ROM link, look at bottom of page)
I have about a zillion other questions, but my mind is empty right now. I really hope that I'm not out of line when posting this topic, and I hope to hear from some friendly HTC lovers Please let me know if this topic is not appropriate and I'll edit/delete it. (yes I did read the RULES)
Kind Regards

Welcome and Hello
I`ll take 5 minutes to write a reply seeing as no one else can be bothered.....
Welcome to the forum, you`ll find all you need here, My advise would be to READ READ READ , and if you have any questions SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH, you`ll get flamed if you post something thats been posted before, even though if you do post, it moves from the first 2 pages so fast hence no answers......
16gb sd card will work fine,
Read carefully the goldcard method for updating ROMS and only if you feel confident enough would i recomend it...I`ve flashed 1.61 no issues....
Richie

same as i am......i am currently waiting for my beast and been reading and reading and reading this forum all this while........but the problem is.....i am a really3 noobie person on IT....some topic that were discuss here i can understand but some of have no idea at alll...hehehheh hopefully can get some knowledge from u guys.......[please forgive my english...heheheh]

Hi WildL,
I understand the noob feelings. Although this site has a wealth of information, it's not the noob friendliest place.
.cab files are like .exe files for your pc. You don't unpack it anywhere, simply copy/download to your device and run (click on it through file manager) it from where ever you saved it. It will unpack itself and install. Your only option generally is to install directly onto your device or onto your SD card.
Not sure on the location thing as I haven't experienced it.
For your SD card, there is nothing on there you have to worry about. The ROM is stored on the device and the card is simply additional storage. Feel free to shove a new one in there.
As for changing ROMs. As a noob, stick to stock updates for now. You're on the newest device with all the newest features so custom roms won't offer much except little tweaks (but the phone is fast enough already) and additional apps you can just install yourself. Some MAY be more stable but current it's not worth the risk of bricking your device. Read read read and when you feel comfortable and think your ready, then start looking into cooked roms.
Good luck!

WildL said:
7. Get the old Task Manager Back
To be able to really close programs using the X instead of just 'minimizing' the program and leaving it in memory,
install Duttys HTC Task Manager (attached below), restart and the X is back. Also in Settings you can configure its function.
8. Add Task Manager to Home Screen Quick Links
Copy the hidden TaskMgr.exe file from your Windows folder to your Start Menu/Programs folder. Now it's possible to place a shortcut on your Manila today and you can open/close running programs with ease.[/I]
So how do I install this dutty cab? I mean I downloaded it, but where do I unpack it, and how do I run it on my phone?
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I'd recommend you use this instead...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584415
It means you have the X which you can configure to close apps or minimize them (you can open settings for it by tapping it on the sense ui and going to the wrench). You can also list open apps from the sense ui by clicking it and simply switch to or close anything in the list. Have a play - it's the best all-round solution.
WildL said:
Okay, next thing:
The location on "my today" is wrong, I saw in the tips and tricks that a lot of users had issues with this, but how can that be? There isn't any way to fix it, cause mine is showing that i'm about 15 clicks away from where I really am, but the navigator works fine? :S
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At least your location works! lol
It uses your provider's network to get your location - not GPS. It's always going to be within a mile or 2. Since it's only meant for general info, it doesn't really matter much. I doubt the weather 2 miles down the road is much different than it is where you are
WildL said:
3rd thing:
My network only provided me with a 2gb sdhc card, so if I want to tuck in a 16gb baby how will it work because the OS is stored on the sdhc card, or is it only in the ROM?
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The SD card is purely for storage. You can take it out and the phone will still function properly. This obviously changes if you install software on the card. Unfortunately, the HD2 has a pitiful amount of internal storage memory, so I'd actually recommend using the card to install stuff on. With this in mind, I got myself a 16GB SD card and use that, treating it as if I'll never remove it. I'd obviously recommend this, cos it's what I do
WildL said:
Another thing, I see the ROM upgrade from the danish HTC website is newer than the one installed on my phone, but do you think that I should upgrade to the 1.6 which is leaked here, or should I start with the HTC official rom from the website?
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If your phone is pretty new and you've not done much setting up, it's probably the best time to make sure you've got the most up-to-date ROM. If you got the phone from a provider then you can officially only upgrade using ROMs that they supply. If you got it completely SIM free, then you can use the HTC ones that are out there. The current new one (1.61) is actually an official HTC one, so it will be as risk free as flashing a ROM can ever be. It's just not officially released yet. (I believe HTC "leak" their ROMs so that this community can beta test for them, before they release to the general public, but that's just my belief )
Since the phone is still so new though, I don't really think that it makes much difference. The ROM upgrades seem to be doing so little at the minute that you may well not notice any benefits.
Either way, if it's official, you've at least got some comeback if it bricks your new phone!
Basically, this is just a preference. Do what you think feels right. Just bear in mind that a ROM flash means a hard reset, which means setting EVERYTHING up again, from scratch.
WildL said:
I have about a zillion other questions, but my mind is empty right now. I really hope that I'm not out of line when posting this topic, and I hope to hear from some friendly HTC lovers Please let me know if this topic is not appropriate and I'll edit/delete it. (yes I did read the RULES)
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Well you're in the best place to ask your zillion other questions. This is the right place to ask this kind of question, and I'm sure that there'll be plenty of people to follow me in welcoming you here. I've been a member of this community for just over 18 months now, and it's been great. There's a lot of good people on here who are more than happy to show off their knowledge er... I mean be helpful! lol
Have fun with your new toy

No newbieguide, "how to`" from the scratch?

I simply don't know how to install programs on my HD2. I don't know where to install them either. I installed a newer rom version a month ago or so, but I just put it in a random place on my phone. I would really appreciate some help, because I am NOT satisfied with my HD2 atm. Sucks to write messages on it, it sucks to go through my contacts, because suddenly it lags and calls a person while I'm scrolling.
Guides like this doesn't help me AT ALL.
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
I mean, I have never had a wm-phone before. I'm used to ipa's and apps/hacks on Ipod Touch. That's it.

scarn said:
I simply don't know how to install programs on my HD2. I don't know where to install them either. I installed a newer rom version a month ago or so, but I just put it in a random place on my phone.
Guides like this doesn't help me AT ALL.
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
I mean, I have never had a wm-phone before. I'm used to ipa's and apps/hacks on Ipod Touch. That's it.
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You download .cab files, then place them anywhere on your phone and then run them from there, it will ask you if you would like to install to memory card or phone memory.
Simple, dont go complaining about other peoples thread, that one isnt even supposed to guide you through installing programs.

I wasn't complaining, I just said that I don't know what the purpose is, and that there are no ohter newbie guides to people like me. I was just saying that you didn't have to link me to those guides, because I don't understand them. But thanks, I didn't know that it doesn't matter where I put the files.

scarn said:
I wasn't complaining, I just said that I don't know what the purpose is, and that there are no ohter newbie guides to people like me. But you little sentence helped me actually.
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This is a complaint....
scarn said:
Guides like this doesn't help me AT ALL...
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You should have started out with a better first post mate. Rather then come on here moaning about stuff, tell us what your problems are and we'll usually try and help. Okay?

scarn said:
I simply don't know how to install programs on my HD2. I don't know where to install them either. I installed a newer rom version a month ago or so, but I just put it in a random place on my phone. I would really appreciate some help, because I am NOT satisfied with my HD2 atm. Sucks to write messages on it, it sucks to go through my contacts, because suddenly it lags and calls a person while I'm scrolling.
Guides like this doesn't help me AT ALL.
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583638
I mean, I have never had a wm-phone before. I'm used to ipa's and apps/hacks on Ipod Touch. That's it.
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Just do plenty of reading, that's how most of us learn.

A Nokia 2110 is better.
No worries about installation.
Phone works perfect.
No touchscreen, no mistyping.
Nothing to learn about.
Could fit your needs.
Or an iPhone... similar functions...
If not, try and read trough this forum.
A journey always starts with the first step.

[Q] Anyone in Pittsburgh, PA?

I am a newbie to this forum. I have had my HD2 for a year. I'm on my third phone and I hate Tmobile. However, since I can't do anything about changing my phone for awhile, I decided to actually try to learn about it.
1. I'm illiterate to software, hardware, etc.
2. It seems like you need to be an engineer to understand all this stuff
3. I'm trying, writing notes, looking up definitions, etc.
4. I'm struggling
Anyways I was wondering if any of you people were in my area of Pittsburgh? I would love to meet up and discuss phone stuff and improve my literacy and ability. I'm slowly getting better, but alas, I'm still an idiot....
Thank You Friends

man....i wish i was in PA.....

vtownlove said:
I am a newbie to this forum. I have had my HD2 for a year. I'm on my third phone and I hate Tmobile. However, since I can't do anything about changing my phone for awhile, I decided to actually try to learn about it.
1. I'm illiterate to software, hardware, etc.
2. It seems like you need to be an engineer to understand all this stuff
3. I'm trying, writing notes, looking up definitions, etc.
4. I'm struggling
Anyways I was wondering if any of you people were in my area of Pittsburgh? I would love to meet up and discuss phone stuff and improve my literacy and ability. I'm slowly getting better, but alas, I'm still an idiot....
Thank You Friends
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Best advice I can give you is just keep reading.....
Even if you dont understand what your reading, read it anyway....*
Things will start to come together sooner or later. Sure it all seems confusing at first but trust me, it does all start to make sense.
Try reading the stickie threads first, the wikis contain good info too.
If theres something in particular your having trouble with then dont be afraid to ask over in the Q&A section...... try searching first though
Theres usually somebody around who'll be able to help.
Remember to try and include as much information as possible in your question though, helps to provide a more clear and concise answer.
Oh yeah..... welcome to XDA
*I stole that advice from samsamuel... (credit where credits due)

Thank you I will try to look first, but sometimes I don't even know what the heck I'm looking for!
Point in case: I can't figure out how to tether my phone with my computer?
Downloaded and have app working
Computer doesn't recognize it
No idea how to work around this
Just an example...if i can't do this I can't imagining partitioning an SD card to run android and windows 6.5....

Hmm the tethering is not an area Im too sure about, from what I've heard, a lot of the American networks require you to pay to be able to use tethering. Its available by default on my phone so I've never had to worry about it.
I would imagine that flashing a custom ROM would allow you to tether just by connecting to your computer.
As for android, if you want to run WM and Android from your SD card then theres no need to partition the card.
You just download the ROM you want.
It will be in a .zip file when you open that theres a folder called "Android".
You place that on your SD card.
Click one of the files inside. (clrcad.exe)
Then click another (haret.exe) and your off........
All the SD card android builds contained instructions in the thread how to get it running.
Like I said before, It may all seem very confusing at first but as long as you read up on what you want to do first, you'll be fine.
One thing I think is important to mention though, as your bound to have the US version of the HD2 (green and red call and hangup buttons).....
NEVER NEVER NEVER flash a radio with .51. in the name of it......
Even if you dont know what that means right now. Keep it in mind. Its the most common cause of people "bricking" their phones. 99% of problems can be fixed so dont worry but that will kill your phone instantly.
If you get to the point where you need to flash a radio, remember to check if its a good one.
Happy reading