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Hey Guys at first sorry for my english i'm not good in it. And I'm a Android newbie I just gained a bit exerience with my Touch Diamond but it's broken now..okay but that's not the probleme....
If got a question:
After about 2 days of searching for an android 2.0 or 2.1 ROM I was a little bit confused of the diffrent news everybody was talking about. I'm root on my Hero. That was the first an last thing I made with my device.
1. Everybody is gonna talk about MoDaCo 3.0 but when I was trying to download his ROM my browser never got a request. Is the site down, where that ROM is hosted ?? Could someone give me a working link with this ROM ??
2. Is there a ROM with Android 2.0 or 2.1 outside or even not ??? And if yes are they working well ???
Would be nice if someone can help me =) thanks a lot.
Please answer soon if you know something about that =)
Greetz BassdoxXx
you can get modaco's roms at his website, www.modaco.com.
in the android development section there are some 2.0/1 roms, none of them works flawless, see for yourself if it fits your needs.
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
BassdoxXx said:
Thanks a lot for your fast answer. =)
The problem that i couldn't open the modaco page was my isp -.- i downloaded it at school
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What? Does ISP's block that site? Lol, would never happened in Norway
there is a few 2.0+ roms out there for the hero.
most seem to be very usable now.
best sense ui would be lox/behnaam community release on 1.6.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1448
there are two aosp roms worth looking at.
lox aosp ( im using that on a daily basis)
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1416
jnwhiteh aosp
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1528
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
sorry for the double posting. I've accidentally posted twice and I am unable to remove the post.
Hope anybody can help me please.
pvdeejay said:
Hello all,
I am having very specific request when it comes to choosing a proper rom for install on to my hero.
I am blind. Stock roms are only running Android 1.5. More robust accessibility features are available starting with Android 1.6 and improving even more with Android 2.0.
So for sure I am forced to upgrade my hand set.
There are various roms, some of their authors have even disable google specific features so I know I can't install such a rom.
All the accessibility efforts are being lead by the google developers.
Most likely these accessibility tools won't be usefull to most of you but please can anyone recommend me a rom where market is working and where the following applications can be installed and used?
- eyesfree suite of applications,
- talkback - the google screen reader for android,
- tts service.
All possible help is already appreciated.
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i am on mcr3.0, i looked in the market, i can find 8 apps for eyesfree, tts is one of these. i didn't try to install one of these, but usually it works. the search for talkback returned nothing.
not that i want to be rude, but wouldn't you be better off with another phone if you are blind? i can not imagine a touchscreen only phone would be suitable for someone who is not able to see... especially because there are great devices out there that have a full qwerty keyboard, and come with android 2.0 out of the box... imho this would be a better solution.
again, the last thing i want to be is rude, but maybe this was your mistake: you posted in the htc hero section of this forum, the hero is a touch screen only device, including a virtual keyboard on the screen. it has only six buttons and a trackball, and two rocker buttons for the volume. just to make clear we are talking about the same device
if you are still up for the hero you could try the 2.1 rom from here: http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=30418&posted=1#post30418
best you try for yourself, it has some drawbacks, but maybe in areas you don't need (afaik syncing with exchange does not work for example, which wouldn't be a problem for me...). otherwise it might be worth to wait another week or two, we all are waiting unpatiently for the official eclair release from htc
keep asking if you need to know more, but maybe open a new thread, since your problems are very specific, and might drown between all the newbies question about "how to root my phone".
Hello,
Thanks for your reply and a great attitude.
Yes it may sound strange I have really got HTC Hero here. I know I'll be having problems with virtual keyboard but also I am afraid accessibility features of Android phones are not really such mastered one can use it daily. For example reading emails and content from the web browser is not yet possible. I just want to try how things work and I would also like to touch the virtual keyboard. If I can memorize computer keyboard and use it daily, typewriter keyboard, nokia mobile phone keyboard, then perhaps I might be able to make some use of this too.
I am sory but here are some more questions:
I haven't yet verified with some sighted friends but... is it possible my hero is running even older version of android like Android 1.5? I've based the assumption that it's most likelly running 1.5 because majority of the devices I was reading on the net are running it.
You've been triyng to locate eyes-free applications on the market but you were unable to find talkback. Are you sure you are running newer version of Android than 1.5?
Talkback is supposed to be installed with Android 1.6 andd 2.0 by default and you should be able to find it in the accessibility menu of your phone. I am not sure how well this applies to the custom roms.
Talkback requires google's accessibility api which is reported to be available on Android 1.6 upwards.
To tell you the full story first I've asked on the eyes-free google group whether some accessibility experts from there can help me but no one knowledgeable enough has replied to my query, so I'm trying my luck here then.
Oh I am really excited since I've got really well formed informative reply.
Thanks again
Edit:
Also, I've seen somewhere in the forums here this leaked HTC rom does not support the market. Has this been rectified already? You know if market does not work then most likelly I won't be able to install these applications I am tallking about.
Also you are mentioning possibility to wait a few weeks until HTC guys role out the official update for Hero. Wouldn't that break chances I will be able to root my device later?
Edit2:
Ooops, I should read better next time. Market works on this rom. The problem is paid apps can't be installed which is hopefully not a big issue for me since most of the accessibility enabled applications are free.
Which of the downloads from Hero 21 do I need?
63.18.55.06JU_6.35.09.26) or No Wipe Download. I will need a wipe I am sure but since this link says nowipe I am ehmmm. confused.
pvdeejay,
Unfortunately there is not an 'official' update for Android 1.6, 2.0 or 2.1 as of yet. There are rumours of one coming out soon, but nothing cast-iron yet.
You are correct in that the Hero runs 1.5. It does say it under Settings | About Phone (bottom item on list)| Firmware Version (bottom on list again), although without a working screen reader, there is probably little use in knowing how to find that.
If you did want to upgrade, I'm sure plenty of people could help find a ROM that would suit. The only issue with that is that you would need a rooted phone with a custom recovery image installed. Unfortunately, a lot of the procedures would not be easy for you, as the software that you might need to use to go through the procedure is probably not designed that well for accessibility tools. I don't know what kind of software you are using, but some of the instructions for making goldcards are quite complex, and involve editing some numbers in a 'table' which could be quite difficult for you, I would imagine.
I'm sure a friend would be able to help you out with making a goldcard/rooting if you did want to install a custom ROM (you'll probably be waiting a while otherwise ). They could even root their phone while doing yours (just share the goldcard between the devices).
Nonetheless, there is probably a ROM out there with little removed from it. I'll have a look just now, but you would need to have your phone rooted to do anything just now.
When it comes to rooting and installing custom recovery image. Do you thing the following instructions might work for me?
These instructions don't require a gold card:
- How to Root HTC Hero and Install Amon Ra Recovery Image
- How to install a custom rom on a HTC Hero
Hello,
Here are some numbers I've asked my friend to read from system -> about screen. The phone interface is in czech so I am unable to get some names translated to english, but I believe some of the geeks will understand these identifiers and might be able to help me what is best:
Code:
firmware: 1,5
63.118.55.O6U|6.35.04.25
2.6.27-a5504199
Build number: 1.76.405.6 146733 CL# 47214 release-keys
Software version: 1.0.0.A6288
pvdeejay,
to sum it up:
the hero definitly runs on android 1.5. there are no roms for older android versions, and a few homebrewn for newer versions, as we said already.
i searched for talkbalk on my 1.5 rom, so it is obvious that i couldn't find it...
about rooting of newer roms: it is just a matter of time, sooner or later there will be always methods of rooting a rom. what i meant by waiting is: wait until the official update is out, then wait a few more hours until the first rooted and customized rom is out
@pvdeejay,
I would have to agree with kendong2 that waiting for the official ROM is probably the best idea for you at the moment. There are no guarantees that an unofficial ROM would help, and it would be another user interface to try and learn.
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
Sorry guys originally I believed I am slowly getting into the matter and am begining to understand how flashing / rooting / upgrading home brew firmwares works on these phones.
After these 2 posts I feel like a total noob again.
Now again some very concrete questions:
What about these 2 guides I've posted links to?
Can I somehow got [Recovery] [13-Dec-2009] RA-hero-v1.5.2 installed so I will be able to do nandroid backup and then possibly flash some new roms?
Can I really brick my phone by trying to install amon ra?
Originally I thought the process works as follows:
1) get the custom recovery image installed (that's the amon ra in this case),
2) do a nandroid backup which will dump everything usefull on to the memory card,
3) backup and reformat the card,
4) download a rom, rename it to update.zip, put it onto the root folder of the cart, reboot the hero in recovery mode, do the wipe of the data partition, and run update,
5) reboot again and believe it's good.
Also some very significant bit is the thing you are all calling the radio. I am afraid I've not identified this bit thus it's missing in this summary.
Which files will I need to download if I decide to try Android 2.1 community edition 1.8? Are these files I've copied links to a few posts earlier both needed?
Can you please check this list, identify the things I am missing, and make suggestions and corrections why this may not work on my device based off of those number I tried to put down here?
Even if I won't be able to do this right now I'd be happy to get corrections as I can learn something new.
Of course I won't be doing all this on my own. I will ask my bro to read all the stuff to me and we'll do it according to your advices.
To give some bits about me and my computer skills, I believe I am a Windows power user, Basically I do also understand unix, I know what's bash how the files are arranged in a file system, can use command-line tools, telnet, ssh. I am working as a network administrator here so some background is there really.
Hi pvdeejay,
Answers to your questions here.
You can actually use fastboot to 'temporarily' load up the AmonRA recovery image into memory and run it from there. I do that on my phone, for the simple reason that I can't be bothered ) ) to flash the recovery. Once you get AmonRA running, the first thing you should do is make a Nandroid backup. It will be saved to your SD card, so then get the nandroid directory of your card and save it to your PC (just in case!)
So, here's how you'd go about this.
(Make sure you have the android sdk installed, and that adb and fastboot commands are working). USB cable should be plugged in throughout.
Before you begin, put the ROM you want (ie. Android 2.1 community edition 1.8) into the root of the microSD card (a .zip file).
Code:
adb devices
Should list your phone's serial number
Now turn off the phone, and turn it on with the back key held down (the one at the very bottom right of the device).
You should enter fastboot mode. Now type
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fastboot devices
and you should see the serial number again.
Now type
Code:
fastboot boot AmonRA.img
where AmonRA.img is a file in your present working directory that is the filename of the latest custom recovery image. This does NOT flash your phone, it merely runs the image (pretty much as close as you get to risk free, other than sitting there with a tinfoil hat on )
See screenshot of the recovery image here:
http://www.sizzledcore.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/RA-hero-recovery-image-500x375.jpg
Make the Nandroid backup by choosing 'Nandroid Vx.x Backup' and waiting a while.
If your ROM needs a wipe first (most new ones do), select Wipe data/factory reset. You will lose all your user data on the device (but you've got a nandroid backup just in case)
You're now good to go. So choose "Apply sdcard:choose zip"
Now select the custom ROM zip file you downloaded. It doesn't even need to be called update.zip! Choose it from the list and push trackball.
Wait for the update.zip to go in. Do NOT turn off the device or pull the battery. First boot can take a very long time (upto 30 minutes). Just keep it plugged in via USB and wait...
As for radios, see http://android.modaco.com/content/h...-24-11-hero-roms-radios-in-update-zip-format/ and look at the section titled radios. The latest one is in bold. It is a .zip file as well, that you use these exact same instructions for to install (don't do the wipe or anything like that. Just install the .zip file)
anon2122 said:
@kendon,
I noticed he has the original, easily rooted version of the hero. IIRC, that is what I had on my G2 (and had the security unlocked bootloader out the box). If that's the case, would pvdeejay be able to 'fastboot boot' a full system img file for the purposes of testing it out to see if it meets the requirements.
The reason I ask is that I've only ever fastbooted my AmonRA recovery (I didn't flash it, because I never felt any need to). I'm guessing you could fastboot a full img, but I'm not sure about the practical issues of where it would be stored in memory...
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this is correct so far, i did the same, except i installed the recovery. i play a lot with my phone, the installed recovery image with the nandroid backup is the best i have ever seen for a phone...
@pvdeejay
you always write so much...
i try to answer everything:
the two guides you posted are good for your situation. i never tried flashrec, but from what i read it is safe to use. i installed my recovery image through fastboot, the guide is here: http://android.modaco.com/content/h...ng-the-patched-recovery-image-on-your-device/
i have no idea how this works out for you, but my honest suggestion would be that you have someone seeing assisting you, you CAN brick your phone, though it is not likely if you follow the instructions precisely. the process is not very time consuming at all, so you don't need to bother anyone for days of their time.
edit: and now i read your post to the end and saw that your brother will be helping you, so you are on the right track
once you have the recovery installed you can make nandroid backups, and i would suggest that you do this first thing after installing the recovery, better make a backup too much than one too less...
the 5 steps you described are correct, except there is no need to rename the zipfile anymore, you can select any .zip from your sdcard.
the radio part is the number that begins with 63.18.55.06, then comes two letters and then more numbers. as by now the version can be identified by the letters, with JU being the up-to-date one. in general you can say the newer the better, but you have to try for yourself. start with the newest one, if you have problems go back.
thanks this seems to be pretty doable plus I will easily be able to restore the current data backed using nandroid backup.
Which android SDK do I need the latest one?
The commands I need to type are supposed to be typed on the PC or on the phone? I assume on the PC but I just would like to ensure.
Hero21 1.8 community edition has a recommended radio listed in the first post. Is it necessary to install that one as well? What should I install first the actual rom or the radio? Do I need installing radio at all? Should i do the same with radio i.e. renaming it to update.zip and using amonra to install it?
Also will I be able to use this method even if I install another rom (running amonra without actually flashing it)?
Edit:
sorry guys did not realize renaming to update.zip is no longer needed.
Edit2:
is there an easy way on how to access sd card from windows? I can't just remove the card from phone and insert it into my laptop because I don't have the proper adapter. Previously my boss was using the hero and perhaps it would be nice to backup the sd card first.
Edit3:
uhmmm, installing android sdk is perhaps not as simple as it sounds.
I have just seen this article.
I am on a limited gprs internet connection, can you please suggest sdk features I won't need to save some download bandwith?
- you need only the adb binary (thats adb.exe for windows) from the sdk, the rest is not needed for this.
- install the radio from the 2.1community-rom-thread, it is the newest. install the radio first. DO NOT PULL THE BATTERY until the phone has rebooted completely. if you pull the battery during radio upgrade your phone will be dead. it takes a few minutes, do not panic!
- you can copy the contents of the sdcard via the usb-cable, plug it into your pc and pull down the notification bar...
Do I need to run SDK Setup.exe when I have downloaded android sdk for windows?
Or can I simply run that binary from the command-line without the installation?
Do I need any USB drivers so my phone can be recognized?
I currently have a Hero on stock Orange UK rom.
is it possible/worth it to flash it over to the HTC stock so that i get the over the air update when it is out?
Gamma Ray said:
I currently have a Hero on stock Orange UK rom.
is it possible/worth it to flash it over to the HTC stock so that i get the over the air update when it is out?
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I dont think this is possible or will damage your phone if you try.. the only way to get 2.1 on your orange phone early is to get root access and flash a custom rom..
Dont quote me on that.. but it could be a very bad idea to try it.
Cheers, but can anyone shed a little more light?
I flashed my Hero with the stock Orange ROM over to the 2.73.405.5 WWE release without issue using a Gold Card, as soon as I installed it I had the notification for Part 1 of the 2.1 update and that installed without issue.
I'm actually having significant signal improvements since I changed over to the ROM.
alexmunroe said:
I flashed my Hero with the stock Orange ROM over to the 2.73.405.5 WWE release without issue using a Gold Card, as soon as I installed it I had the notification for Part 1 of the 2.1 update and that installed without issue.
I'm actually having significant signal improvements since I changed over to the ROM.
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Would you mind to post here how you did it...
I'm having to post this as a quote since I can't post outside links yet.
Make sure you have an SD Adapter to put your MicroSD in so you can plug it into a computer and access it.
I. Download and Install the Android SDK and USB drivers (If you already have this done, skip this section).
1. Follow our video procedure on HOW TO SETUP ADB/USB DRIVERS.
II. Create a “GoldCard” from a MicroSD Card
1. Put the memory card you want to use for the GoldCard into your phone.
2. With the memory card in your phone, click on Settings, SD and Phone storage, then click Unmount SD card. Once it unmounts, click Format SD card. (Please keep in mind that some memory cards don’t work, and this will erase all data on your SD Card so back all the data up first to your computer)
3. On the Phone, goto Settings, Applications, Development and then make sure USB Debugging is checked.
4. *Make sure you have installed the SDK and Fastboot correctly from Section I!!!
Plug the phone into the computer and then open the Command Prompt (goto the start menu and type in cmd in the search box). Then type the following with hitting enter at the end of each line.
cd\
cd\AndroidSDK\tools\
adb devices
(wait for the it to show a serial number underneath, if it doesn’t then reinstall the drivers from section I). Then type:
adb shell
cat /sys/class/mmc_host/mmc1/mmc1:*/cid
5. A code will display, write the code down (MAKE SURE TO WRITE IT DOWN EXACTLY!)
6. Goto this site, hexrev.soaa.me/, then put in your code you just wrote down into the text box and click submit. It will generate the code reversed and replace the first two digits with zeros automatically. Write that down and continue to step 9.
7. Now, on your computer, goto revskills.de/pages/goldcard.html and enter your email in the appropriate field and for CID enter the reversed CID you just got from hexrev.soaa.me/
8. Click continue and then you will receive your goldcard.img via email. Once it arrives save it to your computer.
9. Now, goto download.cnet.com/HxD-Hex-Editor/3000-2352-10891068.html?part=dl-HxDHexEdi&subj=uo&tag=button to download the HxD Hex Editor. Save it and install it to your computer.
10. Take your SD card out of your phone and put it into the SD adapter it came with. Then put that into your computer so it shows up on your computer as Removable Disk.
11. Open the Hex Editor (Run as Administrator if one Vista or Windows 7) and click on the Extra tab, then click on Open Disk. Under Physical Disk select Removable Disk (your SD card you just put into the computer). Make sure to UNcheck “Open as ReadOnly”. Click OK.
12. Goto the Extra tab again and click Open Disk Image. Open up the goldcard.img that you saved from your email. You should now have two tabs, one is the SD card (Removable Disk) and the other is the goldcard.img
Press OK when prompted for Sector Size 512 (Hard Disks/Floppy Disks).
13. Click on the Goldcard.img tab and click on the Edit tab and click Select All. Then click on the Edit tab again and click Copy.
14. Click on the Removable Disk tab (Your SD Card) and select offset 00000000 to 00000170 then click on the Edit tab and click Paste Write.
15. Click on File then click Save.
16. Close the Hex Editor.
17. Test what we’ve done:
Take out the memory card from the computer, then put it back in.
Try to open the memory card on the computer (Removable Disk), if it lets you, you are all set. If it asks/tells you to reformat the card, then try steps 13 – 19 again. If it gives you the same error again, then try a different memory card (Erlern said it didn’t work for him until he finally went and bought a Kingston 2GB card, then it worked on that card only).
18. Put the GoldCard into your phone and reboot the phone with the GoldCard inside.
This was taken directly from theunlockr.com/2009/10/18/how-to-downgrade-your-htc-hero-so-it-can-be-rooted/ and as such I take no responsibility for any issues that arise as a result of using it.
I then flashed the official HTC WWE 2.73.405.5 release from here forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622 . It took me a few goes to get it to initialise but once that was done I had the unbranded release ready for upgrading.
Once that was installed I set-up the phone again, set the date forward by a year and was then prompted to install the 1st part of the update.
i dont want to move to the orange rom, i want to move to the stock HTC hero rom.
Currently i am on UK Orange build: 2.73.61.5 146733 CL#61267 release-keys
ive seen the root in one click thing, could i do that and install the stock?
can someone provide a lamens terms guide and a link to the stock htc rom for the UK? i would be really grateful!
OK.
Just follow the goldcard guide at http://www.villainrom.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=375#p4956
When you reach the step "2. Loading the Custom ROM", then you don't need to continue. That will have you on a stock HTC ROM.
As for what you do after that, it's up to you. You can take updates using your goldcard if it's an RUU, or take OTAs.
Personally, I would root and go the custom ROM route, but if it isn't for you, then that's how to do it ^^^^^
Gamma Ray said:
i dont want to move to the orange rom, i want to move to the stock HTC hero rom.
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To what end? You won't get much benefit from having a stock ROM over the Orange one tbh, aside from being able to remove those pesky Orange bookmarks and boot screen.
If you want a 1.5 ROM, I'd highly recommend Kimera 1.8. It's bloody fast. Look for the newbie guide to rooting your phone, it's in the dev section, as well as Kimera.
TBH though, if I were rooting from Orange stock ROM, I'd probably go with a 2.1 ROM such as Cronos Droid or VillainROM. They work fine, are fast and have all the goodies from 2.1 and a few from 2.2.
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OK.
Just follow the goldcard guide at (REMOVED LINK SO I COULD POST)
When you reach the step "2. Loading the Custom ROM", then you don't need to continue. That will have you on a stock HTC ROM.
As for what you do after that, it's up to you. You can take updates using your goldcard if it's an RUU, or take OTAs.
Personally, I would root and go the custom ROM route, but if it isn't for you, then that's how to do it ^^^^^
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What does RUU mean? Im looking to move off the Orange ROM to the stock HTC rom so i can receive OTA updates. will doing what you say and following that guide up to step 2 will it leave me with the latest version of the stock ROM an able to do this?
Do i also need to use the goldcard? i had a quick look at that site and i have the version of the ORANGE UK ROM (2.73.61.5) that i could do the recovery image section with?
mikeyd85 said:
To what end? You won't get much benefit from having a stock ROM over the Orange one tbh, aside from being able to remove those pesky Orange bookmarks and boot screen.
If you want a 1.5 ROM, I'd highly recommend Kimera 1.8. It's bloody fast. Look for the newbie guide to rooting your phone, it's in the dev section, as well as Kimera.
TBH though, if I were rooting from Orange stock ROM, I'd probably go with a 2.1 ROM such as Cronos Droid or VillainROM. They work fine, are fast and have all the goodies from 2.1 and a few from 2.2.
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I want to receive OTA updates and ive heard reports of better signal (i live in a very poor signal area), ive also heard the orange update wont be coming or wont be coming for a while.
Im not really wanting to go down the custom ROM route for stability purposes, I had cyanogen on my G1 and it was less stable than stock and had so much clutter i didn't want.
RUU is official update file HTC give you on their site.
Fair enough if you go down stock route, but custom ROMs have come a long way since then. You could always try something like villainrom and see how it goes, as it is based on the gsm update for 2.1
If you install the htc 2.1, then you will be stuck on it forever, as it wont be rootable.
I understand there's a tips and tricks thread that explains things in more detail but how does somebody go from just getting the phone to installing, or even understanding, things like obsidian, onyx, morphing and learning what the basic functions of such programs are.
The question I currently have is concerning flashing custom roms. In the tips & tricks thread, it talks of froyo builds (ex: bionix & frankin-twiz). What is it exactly? From what I understand, it sounds like a mini os that you install onto your device which helps in applying different functions to it, which makes custom roms possible.
I'm currently trying to get http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530 to work on my vibrant. Can anybody help a newbie out?
VibrantUser1 said:
I understand there's a tips and tricks thread that explains things in more detail but how does somebody go from just getting the phone to installing, or even understanding, things like obsidian, onyx, morphing and learning what the basic functions of such programs are.
The question I currently have is concerning flashing custom roms. In the tips & tricks thread, it talks of froyo builds (ex: bionix & frankin-twiz). What is it exactly? From what I understand, it sounds like a mini os that you install onto your device which helps in applying different functions to it, which makes custom roms possible.
I'm currently trying to get http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530 to work on my vibrant. Can anybody help a newbie out?
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the link you posted is just to a theme.
to get the theme to work you'll need to be running obsidian first.
so lets see, the easiest way to explain the different versions 2.2, 2.1 1.6, 1.5 and so forth is this...
its pretty much like going from windows 95 to 98 to 2000 to xp to vista and so forth.
our vibrants come with android 2.1, 2.2 is the next version of the os to come out (basicaly like moving from vista to windows 7)
the different roms like obsidian and Macnut and such are just names that the developers gave their roms.
what happens is a developer starts out with a version of android (in the case of Macnut and Obsidian this is 2.2)
and then they add their own modified tweaks and such to it.
and so in the end they get Obsidian which is a modified 2.2
or Macnut which is also a modified 2.2
they differ a bit though as Obsidian is based almost totaly on a leaked version of 2.2 for the US vibrant, where Macnut is based alot on the 19000 version of 2.2 for the european phones.
so when choosing a rom just choose the base you want first: 2.1 or 2.2
then look through the tweaks on a few roms and read some of the thread for that rom untill you get a feel for what makes it unique
you can also just experiment by flashing a rom for a day or so and then switching to a new one untill you find one you like.
Morphing is a way to apply a theme to a rom, this does not generaly change functionality at all, it only changes apearance.
alot of themes are either morphs (you install them using metamorph, which is an app from the market)
or they also come in zip format (which are installed by flashing from recovery)
for the theme you posted you will need to flash obsidian, and then flash the zip for the theme afterwards.
have you rooted your device yet?
thats the place to start, if you need help just pm me or repost here and I'll do what I can.
also, there is a "newbie's guide":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
nearblack said:
also, there is a "newbie's guide":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
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lol true true
Before you even want to start with anything, you have to learn what 'rooting' your phone means.
Without root, you won't be able to do any of the above. You might be able to download the programs necessary, but you won't be able to use them.
For ex. Titanium Backup, ROM Manager, etc.
We use ROM Manager to install different ROMs on our phones.
Much to read, my young grasshopper.
OP, I made the Tips/Tricks sticky... would you PM be exactly what you think it lacks? I want to make sure it is applicable to everyone... I thought it was straight-forward, perhaps not.
my phone is rooted. So how do I go about flashing obsidian?
I thought roms were the same as themes? What's the difference?
And just to clarify I understand the tips and tricks thread is sort of the newbies guide but even then theres a lot of terminology that a new user wouldn't understand. I just wanted some basic information that would allow me to transition into the tips and tricks thread more easily.
I appreciate the responses so far
Have you download Rom Manager from the Market? If not, do so.
Then follow the instructions (in the sticky) to flash the recovery (it's the top of the list when you open Rom Manager).
Assuming you did that, you can reboot into recovery, make a backup of your system.. something you can always come back to (a timestamp of your system at that moment).
Download the ROM you want, put it on your internal memory (sdcard/....) NOT in a folder.
Go to Clockwork recovery, choose to insall a zip from sd card... select the name of the ROM and then click Yes to install it.
It will run it's course, then you can just reboot when done.
The first bootup will take a long time (10 minutes probably)... let it boot.... leave your phone alone for like 10 or so minutes after bootup (suggested by Team Whiskey, I never really do this).
It's that easy.
Think of a ROM as an OS... the developers take Froyo (2.2) or Eclair (2.1) and make a lot of tweaks, remove things, add things... basically anything to enhance the user experience.
THEMES are something you flash over a custom ROM... it can change the icons, graphics, notification bar, etc... they are cosmetic. You see in my signature I have Axura 2.0.3 (amazing rom and there is a newer version out) and then I have BlackFroyo (which is the theme) on top of the ROM to change the look of things. Axura has a steel looking notification bar, I much prefer black (hence the theme I chose).
The ONE thing that can be confusing... if you make a backup right now (you have stock eclair), if you flash a froyo rom... you would need to flash either the stock eclair kernel (the download link is also in the sticky) to restore your nandoid backup.... OR, you could just flash another ROM that has a kernel (most do) and you would be good to go too.
And addition to this is to make sure your phone is NOT hardware locked.
To test it:
1) Take out battery from the phone and put it back in again
2) The USB cable plugged into the computer (not in the phone yet)
3) Push and hold down both of the Volume buttons at the same time
4) Plug in USB cable and it should take you into the Download mode.
If it does you are good to go. Just read some about Odin and Stock Android
If it isn't you need to make sure to flash JI6 to your phone (also Stock) onto your phone using Stock Manager. That should fix your hardware locked. Go over the above steps to make sure that is the case.
At this point, I have rooted my device and downloaded rom manager.I believe I have backed up everything after following the directions and I do have the blackfroyo.zip on my sd card and for some reason it won't "go" (although I'm sure there's a step I am missing here, something with obsidian) so that wasn't much of a surprise.
Edit: I noticed I tried to use a theme on there and not the obsidian "OS" (idiot) when I tried the backup thing with rom manager. Where can I download the most recent version of obsidian and/or is axura an acceptable alternative?
VibrantUser1 said:
Edit: I noticed I tried to use a theme on there and not the obsidian "OS" (idiot) when I tried the backup thing with rom manager. Where can I download the most recent version of obsidian and/or is axura an acceptable alternative?
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Been working on updating the wiki. Please check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S_SGH-T959#ROMs for the different ROMs currently available.
^^ both are solid. I prefer Auxura *no touchwiz*.... download it from the development section. Place in on the internal (sdcard/ ) and flash it, reboot... I would let the phone chill for awhile then reboot again.... THEN if you want, start messing with the theme. You can see from my signature you and I are similar.
to the OP, I started a noob friendly guide in the Q&A section. Please let me know exactly what you want in there.
Here is a video guide, its kinda old but the principles are the same.
http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/02/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-samsung-captivate-vibrant/
I have been browsing around and reading on XDA since I got my G1 on release day. I have since upgraded to the MYT3G and now to the Vibrant. I have always used XDA as a source of information for rooting, etc. I don't post very often, but, I would like to throw props out to all the individuals in the thread, this is one of the few threads I have read on XDA that no one got flamed for being a "noob" and asking basic info, the information given was clear, accurate and very helpful. No one pointed to using the search function, everyone just gave good answers. AWESOME
I hope to see more threads like this in the future. Bravo and well done to all.
So I tried installing obsidian 5 and this is what happened. I first put the zip file on my sd card, I did all the necessary prerequisites (I think) using rom manager, flash recovery > vibrant yada yada yada and then pressed install rom from sd card and chose the obsidian zip file. Then the phone starts backing itself up and it finally reaches a point where it says (E: Can't open/sdcard/sd/obsidian_v5_beta.zip (no such file or directory) Installation aborted.
I then try to navigate to the file from the menu but whenever I click the sd file, it just exits, I think it says that no zip file is found or something but when I boot it up normally afterwards, the file is still there.
But the file is within the sd file . . . what am I doing wrong? I tried to fix permissions thinking it was that but no luck.
You probably need to move to the rom to the internal sd card. I thought you're able to add it to the external with the recent update but perhaps not
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
bellrb19 said:
You probably need to move to the rom to the internal sd card. I thought you're able to add it to the external with the recent update but perhaps not
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
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the rom IS on the sd card, unless you mean the memory on the actual phone itself
ROMs go on the root of the internal memory (no folder)... drop it in sdcard/
Also, this was mentioned in Post 8, and in team whiskeys install guide. Please pay attention to details.
oh okay, this whole time I've been thinkin the sd card folder was the root folder. Well I have finally put obsidian with success and now I'm having a difficult time implementing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530. I have downloaded the zip file but I don't understand what "flash it through clockwork recovery" means. It kinda sounds like I should use something in rom manager but I'm not sure, I have tried to reboot into recovery through rom manager with no luck.
I've also tried using metamorph but when i choose the blackfroyo.zip file, it says that the file is invalid and that the theme control file could be missing. Am I doing something wrong here as well?
Thanks for all your help so far, I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy life to help an individual with (what may be to you) simple problems
VibrantUser1 said:
oh okay, this whole time I've been thinkin the sd card folder was the root folder. Well I have finally put obsidian with success and now I'm having a difficult time implementing http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=845530. I have downloaded the zip file but I don't understand what "flash it through clockwork recovery" means. It kinda sounds like I should use something in rom manager but I'm not sure, I have tried to reboot into recovery through rom manager with no luck.
I've also tried using metamorph but when i choose the blackfroyo.zip file, it says that the file is invalid and that the theme control file could be missing. Am I doing something wrong here as well?
Thanks for all your help so far, I really appreciate you taking time out of your busy life to help an individual with (what may be to you) simple problems
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From where you are now. Make sure the zip file is in the internal sd card, Open rom manager go to install rom from sd card then choose the that file then click ok and CW will do its thing. Also this is only for Obsidian v4.2 and Auxura 2.05. Good luck! Also you should make a nandroid back up first just in case.
THIS IS A THREAD FROM A NOOB FOR NOOBS!(I'm soooo sorry!)
I know I will be hated for asking this and reading all the threads, it appears most people here are light years ahead of me.
Anyway, I have been watching this site eagerly for Android for my HD2 over the last 6 months and it appears to me that this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795914
appears to be by far the best option available right now.
So I have downloaded :
data512.7z
data.7z
MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.1_MDJ_S7.3HD.7z
I believe this has to go onto my SD Card, but everyones talk is too fast for me (I'm so sorry!)
Do I need to change anything else before I do this?
For example, is the ROM required to be changed, if so, how?
If not, do I just create a file callled "Android" on the root of my SD card and extract all the files from the three downloaded files into this "Android" folder?
I'm really sorry, Winmo6.5 is destroying me and my patience for an Android HD2 is far richer than my wallet, your help is appreciated a million times over.
hey ill help u if u need it. i kno how u feel to be lost in this jungle. i bought the hd2 in the beginning thinkin it was android, so when i found the forum for android port and was excited. tell me what u need
mods please move this thread to the general section!
step 1: read this: link
step 2: download and run this first . its called HSPL3.
step 3: second download and run Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14 from here
step 4: download and run this. its call VBNROM. it will replace your winmo rom.
step 5: download and run 7zip from here
step 6: extract MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.1_MDJ_S7.3HD.7z and data.7z to your desktop
step 7: move the data.img file from the data folder to the android folder in the MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.1_MDJ_S7.3HD folder.
step 8: press the start key on your phone and press wm5storage, then activate.
step 9: copy the android folder to your sdcard. it will take a looooong time.
step 10: press deactivate.
step 11: press the start button on your phone. then press EBL 2.0.
step 12: on the right side under the android logo, press autoboot and press the word \android
step 13: donate to m-deejay
step 14: donate to - Cotulla and the gang. someone please add their links, i can not find them.
the only reason i replied to this thread, it being a question that has been asked way to many times, was to shoot these guys some hard earned cash. be respectful.
also i recommend downloading the 1gd data for faster boot
first, a really big thank you!
(and I think there may be others that thank you for this "idiots guide")
Am I right in saying that the FROYO build 4.1 that I am attempting to go forward with is the most complete so far?
(I've been at work and will have to try this in the morning!)
What is the "1gb data for faster boot"?
I have downloaded :
data512.7z
data.7z
I guess I use one or the other (is that right?)
Is there another?
My HD2 has 512MB flash size!
Again, thank you for your help.
**edit**
does replacing my Winmo ROM render Winmo useless?
hkcharlie said:
(and I think there may be others that thank you for this "idiots guide")
Am I right in saying that the FROYO build 4.1 that I am attempting to go forward with is the most complete so far?
(I've been at work and will have to try this in the morning!)
What is the "1gb data for faster boot"?
I have downloaded :
data512.7z
data.7z
I guess I use one or the other (is that right?)
Is there another?
My HD2 has 512MB flash size!
Again, thank you for your help.
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You can use either, the data512.7z will give you 512MB of ROM in which programs and system stuff are placed, the other will give you 1GB of data space.
You can choose either, regardless of which HD2 you have.
I would say don't bother with the data.zip files, I always let android creat it's own one. It takes more time but (it is my opinion) I think it is safer.
Also, on exceller, select autoboot on 3 seconds.
I am running the build you want and it is really good.
Oh yeah, to be on the safe side, format your sd card and don't worry, firt boot can take 15 minutes
I thought this would be helpful, but really it's overkill and as a result, again confusing.
SORRY
Your step 1 says to "read this" which is whole bunch of other steps. Do you want me to do those steps or read those steps? Which are also confusing.
like
Your step 2 says:: download and run this first . its called HSPL3.
and links to a page where someone is talking complete tech talk and doesn't tell me how to run it.
Unzip it ? Put it in another folder? What?
drag and drop from your pc to your device?
run it?
Same with all the ROMS and Android builds, nothing is clear.
Run this, install that.
Sure, HOW!
I unzip some of this stuff to put into a folder and there are duplicate files in them, so they are impossible to COMPLETELY unzip.
I'm sorry, I've been looking forward to these few hours I have in my day to do this and now I'm here, I'm still none them wiser.
GUTTED !
hkcharlie said:
I thought this would be helpful, but really it's overkill and as a result, again confusing.
SORRY
Your step 1 says to "read this" which is whole bunch of other steps. Do you want me to do those steps or read those steps? Which are also confusing.
like
Your step 2 says:: download and run this first . its called HSPL3.
and links to a page where someone is talking complete tech talk and doesn't tell me how to run it.
Unzip it ? Put it in another folder? What?
drag and drop from your pc to your device?
run it?
Same with all the ROMS and Android builds, nothing is clear.
Run this, install that.
Sure, HOW!
I unzip some of this stuff to put into a folder and there are duplicate files in them, so they are impossible to COMPLETELY unzip.
I'm sorry, I've been looking forward to these few hours I have in my day to do this and now I'm here, I'm still none them wiser.
GUTTED !
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tell ya what just go to youtube and search for installing android on hd2
should cut the confusion out
good luck
hkcharlie said:
I thought this would be helpful, but really it's overkill and as a result, again confusing.
SORRY
Your step 1 says to "read this" which is whole bunch of other steps. Do you want me to do those steps or read those steps? Which are also confusing.
like
Your step 2 says:: download and run this first . its called HSPL3.
and links to a page where someone is talking complete tech talk and doesn't tell me how to run it.
Unzip it ? Put it in another folder? What?
drag and drop from your pc to your device?
run it?
Same with all the ROMS and Android builds, nothing is clear.
Run this, install that.
Sure, HOW!
I unzip some of this stuff to put into a folder and there are duplicate files in them, so they are impossible to COMPLETELY unzip.
I'm sorry, I've been looking forward to these few hours I have in my day to do this and now I'm here, I'm still none them wiser.
GUTTED !
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Or you can do what I did in the start:
1. Copy everything from SD card to a safe location on your computer
2. format SD-card
3. Unzip you Android choise on your computer.
4. Move/copy the Android folder to your SD-Card
5. Find your file-explorer on your HD2 and start the files that are mentioned on the site (CLRCAD and HARET)
6. now it should boot up.
7. (maybe needed) I found that when i was using a old Original ROM-update for my HD2 none of the Android builds would start up.
If this is you... check HTC.com for the newest ROM-update and update your phone. think the ROM version should be 3.14 or something.
8. And If you love Android as the rest of us... you can install the auto-loader as mentioned earlier.
I think I'm just between you and the other guys. so I hope this is helpful.
Oh, btw. that build you have downloaded is good. I have not yet had this good luck with the same build just 4.4 version. Waiting for a new release.
Best Regards
When you finally get it figured out you are going to be kicking yourself when you realize how easy it is to put android on your hd2 please post something saying WOW this is as easy as putting a new song or picture on my phone lol good luck I am confident you will have it down patt and be trying every build in the near future
Hi all,
i've just done all these steps and it was pretty easy and understandable
i think i will post a clearer guild for you guys
step 1: read this: link ( don't read this cause it just cause confusion)
step 2: download and run this first . its called HSPL3. ( connect your device with the computer, select auto sync on the device, run HSPL3_PKG, select 2.08 hSLR, cause 2.08.0000 doesnt work for me T.T)
step 3: second download and run Leo_RADIO_2.15.50.14 from here ( after restarting your device, unplug and re plug the usb cable, select autosync on your phone. hit CustomRUU in the radio leo folder. wait a moment and it should do the job)
step 4: download and run this. its call VBNROM. it will replace your winmo rom. ( do the same thing like step 3, but with CustomRUU in VBNROM folder)
step 5: download and run 7zip from here
step 6: extract MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.1_MDJ_S7.3HD.7z and data.7z to your desktop
step 7: move the data.img file from the data folder to the android folder in the MDJ_FroYo_HD_v._4.1_MDJ_S7.3HD folder.
step 8: press the start key on your phone and press wm5storage, then activate.( this step is on your phone, hit the start/ wm5storge, look at the bottom left corner you will see Activate button)
step 9: copy the android folder to your sdcard. it will take a looooong time.( open my computer, you should see your sdcard there, i would format it, and then copy the android folder to the sdcard)
step 10: press deactivate.
step 11: press the start button on your phone. then press EBL 2.0.
step 12: on the right side under the android logo, press autoboot and press the word \android
step 13: donate to m-deejay
step 14: donate to - Cotulla and the gang. someone please add their links, i can not find them.
Hope this will help
TekniskM said:
Oh, btw. that build you have downloaded is good. I have not yet had this good luck with the same build just 4.4 version. Waiting for a new release.
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Agreed. v4.4 seems to have worse battery drain than v4.3.
I tried v4.4 with MDJ 8.0 kernel, battery life is better but LED doesn't work
singcheng said:
Agreed. v4.4 seems to have worse battery drain than v4.3.
I tried v4.4 with MDJ 8.0 kernel, battery life is better but LED doesn't work
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use this file
just copy to your android folder in the sd card and reboot
Hi, i have been looking through some of the rooting, flash threads on here and there is a bit too much information,lol.
Can anyone detail the basic steps, software required to roll my X10 back to the 1.6 OS?
I am still having connectivity issues when trying to use the handset in the car.
The vehicle manufactures website shows that the Xperia X10i is compatible with their factory fitted handsfree systems, but only on OS 1.6.
1. Download this and extract in any folder of your computer:megaupload.com/?d=HCWX4KO3 (The credits of this goes for its creators)
2. Open the folder that its named 1_firmware and in the fileDeviceID.txt copy yours, save and close. (This is the same as the one used on the flashtools of Bin4ry)
This is how you can get your DeviceID on Windows: (Again thanks tojimbo77)
2.1: Connect your phone to the computer on the USB port you are going to use to flash it.
2.2: Press start (or windows icon) and in the run box type regedit
2.3: Click edit>find, and type in Vid_0fce&Pid_adde. You should find "DeviceInstance". If that fails, make sure Match whole stringis un-ticked, and click find next or press f3, if that fails, tryUSB\VID_0FCE&PID_ADDE. Copy the last section of that, it should look something like "5&2888d0ff&0&1".
Note: It changes with every diffrent USB port you use....3. Download your Firmware, extract it and copy all the files on it to the 1_firmware folder. You don't have to erase anything from this folder, unless you got the message to replace a file.
4. Now run the RootX10a_v2.cmd and select step 1 and follow the instructions. If done correctly you will see a window that starts to write and write and write a lot of things. This process will take around 5 minutes, so be patient. (It is like if you were flashing your phone)
5. Turn your phone on and wait until you get the configuration screen.
6. Now connect the phone to the PC and run PC Companion or SEUS. If it shows that there is a new software for your phone, follow the instructions and update if you want.
7. Enjoy your phone on Android OS 1.6 or 2.1 with your operator
Thank you on anticipation to any help offered.
I have had a look here, but am not 100% if this is all that i need to do?
Sorry, not able to post the link, being a new user.
The one part that is not clear to me is where they say, "Open the folder that its named 1_firmware and in the fileDeviceID.txt copy yours, save and close"
What is it that im supposed to copy?
No.. no...
You need the flashtool and the 1.6 files..
I cant seem to find the 1.6 files...
Why do you need 1.6?
SE seem to have done something with the update 2.1 where the phones Bluetooth will connect to my vehicle, but only for about 40 seconds, then removes its self and then re attaches, then removes its self again and this goes on for the duration the handset is in the car with me.
The handset i have just now was a replacement for my original and came with the 2.1 OS already updated.
The original 1.6 OS that was on the phone connected to my vehicle and gave me phonebook access.
I have neither now hence why i wish to roll back to the software that is compatible with my vehicles system. 1.6 buildR1FA016 Kernel 2.6
Get your phone rooted, load Xrecovery.
and flash Wolfbreaks CM rom.
And watch the magic.
OmegaRED^ said:
Get your phone rooted, load Xrecovery.
and flash Wolfbreaks CM rom.
And watch the magic.
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Thanks for the above, but can you break this into more simple instructions, links etc as this is way above me. I'm not totally useless, but i have never done anything like this, so it is all double dutch to me at this point in time,lol.
Download the flashtool from androxyde's thread then follow the instructions to flash the latest FW, then reboot your phone plug it in and press root on the flashtool and then reboot and install XRecovery and use it to install a custom ROM by following the directions in a ROM thread.
Just start by reading the Flashtool thread.
Sent From My *Super Fly X10*
If I (or anyone for that matter!) help you, dont be afraid to press THANKS!
CMoney87 said:
Download the flashtool from androxyde's thread then follow the instructions to flash the latest FW, then reboot your phone plug it in and press root on the flashtool and then reboot and install XRecovery and use it to install a custom ROM by following the directions in a ROM thread.
Just start by reading the Flashtool thread.
Sent From My *Super Fly X10*
If I (or anyone for that matter!) help you, dont be afraid to press THANKS!
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Had a read at the flash tool thread and even more confused now, too much information and no understanding of what it all means.
I am looking for someone who can supply links to what i actually need to roll the phone back.
What software do i require.
Do i have to root the phone and if so, how do you do this?
I did say in the thread title an "Idiots Guide". Simple and straightforward instructions that a first timer can comprehend, similar to the text in my first post, bullet points?
Thanks.
Bonzo67 said:
I am looking for someone who can supply links to what i actually need to roll the phone back.
What software do i require.
Do i have to root the phone and if so, how do you do this?
I did say in the thread title an "Idiots Guide". Simple and straightforward instructions that a first timer can comprehend, similar to the text in my first post, bullet points?
Thanks.
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Dude.. all the threads have the answers.
Read abit it won't kill you.
OmegaRED^ said:
Dude.. all the threads have the answers.
Read abit it won't kill you.
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I did and it's version this and version that. So which version is it that i actually need without screwing up my phone?
Suppose i'm more looking for something along the lines of what you would get if you downloaded a torrent file, where everything is in the one folder, inc the instructions.
Anyway, hopefully problem is sorted, as i am ditching SE after 10 years of using their handsets and going to Samsung which is compatible with my vehicles factory fitted system.
Bonzo67 said:
I did and it's version this and version that. So which version is it that i actually need without screwing up my phone?
Suppose i'm more looking for something along the lines of what you would get if you downloaded a torrent file, where everything is in the one folder, inc the instructions.
Anyway, hopefully problem is sorted, as i am ditching SE after 10 years of using their handsets and going to Samsung which is compatible with my vehicles factory fitted system.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060703