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Ok got the update woohoo! and felt a tiny bit dissapointed that some Nexus issues still haven't been addressed boohoo!
I like the new browser and dialer buttons at the bottom now how do I change that default dialer into the far superior "Dialer one"? Is it possible?
I would like to do the same thing. Hopefully someone can figure out how to do it.
well i am just waiting for launcher pro to get that feature and will replace the default one anyways
Well, that is something I would like to do too...
Yep, weakest stock dialer I have seen in about a decade. Will be installing the first fix that hits.
The default android dialer is an embarrassment, I installed Dailer One and set it as default.
It is free from the market place and has full smartdialer functionality seen on the HTC Dialer. However, by default it doesn't search numbers, only names, so you will need to change a few settings to get everything right.
But once you do, it is perfect.
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The default android dialer is an embarrassment, I installed Dailer One and set it as default.
It is free from the market place and has full smartdialer functionality seen on the HTC Dialer. However, by default it doesn't search numbers, only names, so you will need to change a few settings to get everything right.
But once you do, it is perfect.
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right, thats what we use the problem is linking the phone button on the froyo launcher to open dialer one instead of default google dialer
Yeah, I should have been more specific. The first thing that allows me to replace the stock shortcuts. I use dialer one also, have been since about 15 minutes after I turned the phone on for the first time and figured out I had a better dialer somewhere around 1995 or so. Whoever designed it, had anything to do with approving it all the way to Andy Rubin should be fired. And I mean kicked in the nuts, dragged across the parking lot, thrown in a ditch, and pissed on fired. In order to be an epic failure it would have to get better. Calling it crap would be an insult to turds everywhere.
Wow lot of exaggeration here
The stock dialer is not bad at all, it just doesn't suit your needs
I could go on about how craptacular Dialer One is after trying it, but I realize it just isn't for me, stock works just fine for my needs
What problem linking to the Dialer One app? Just replace the stock dialer link with the Dialer one link on the desktop.
If you use Launcher Pro, it will then ask you what dialer you want to make the default.
My LauncherPro Phone link opens Dialer one just fine on FroYo. No Special tricks involved.
Not exactky wht I meant, what I meant wa, the default icon, left side from apps drawer, when clicked to summon dialer one and not stock dialer, got it?
yea. launcher pro is a lot better than stock launcher anyway.
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What problem linking to the Dialer One app? Just replace the stock dialer link with the Dialer one link on the desktop.
If you use Launcher Pro, it will then ask you what dialer you want to make the default.
My LauncherPro Phone link opens Dialer one just fine on FroYo. No Special tricks involved.
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Launcher Pro is really good, and I used it with 2.1, but I prefer the layout of the Froyo launcher. I would also like to know how the change the phone shortcut to open dialer one instead of the default phone app.
While yes the default phone app does look better than dialer one, it is no where near as functional. Being able to type names to search for them on my phone is important to me because all my HTC phones since the wizard could do this. Long time smartphone uses should be annoyed by this, but if you are new to the game you just haven't experienced it.
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Wow lot of exaggeration here
The stock dialer is not bad at all, it just doesn't suit your needs
I could go on about how craptacular Dialer One is after trying it, but I realize it just isn't for me, stock works just fine for my needs
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If your needs stop at pushing ten numbers and hitting the dial button yes the stock dialer can meet your needs but smartphone users are used to more functionality. A lot more. I wasnt kidding when I said I had better dialers somewhere around the mid nineties. I did. That doesnt take much though when you need only add speed dial to have a more fully featured dialer than the stock android dialer. This is a smart phone, I have the expectation that my dialer will be similar to what has been in smartphones for years. That means, speed dial, t9 search of logs and contacts, intelligent search (brings the most frequently called numbers to the top of the list of numbers meeting the search criteria), and more. Does that sound much like the stock dialer? Are you actually aware of what dialers can do for you or how to use the functionality in dialer one? Because it doesnt sound to me like you understand what you are using or what can be done with those tools.
Get real, you don't have to dial 10 numbers to use the stock dialer. Just use the address book and hit dial. Besides most of my calls are already in my call log so It's super easy. Then of course there is the favorites tab.
I used dialer one and went back to the stock dialer because I like it better. You can't speak for all "smartphone users". You can only speak for yourself.
I cant speak for all smartphone users and should only speak for myself, true that. Lets examine further. Anybody think I'm pals with Jon Rubinstein? Bill Gates? Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo? I wish because I would be living in a big fancy house and drinking champagne on a corporate jet. Nope, just an ordinary joe like everybody else here and I'm fine with that. Now despite lacking my direct influence all these people have seen fit to put far more functionality into their smartphone dialers. Think maybe it was because millions of other peoples wishes shaped smartphones into what they are and what features are standard fare? I mean no one here thinks they did it because I asked right? Features vary among all the outfits but android dialer has NO features. None. Thats a pretty weak resume when compared to what others bring to the party.
Lets look at the specifics. Contacts is much slower than T9 when your contacts run up into the hundreds. Nor is browsing through a very long call log easy or quick without a means to search it and this is best done in the dialer itself because it means less clicks which equals less time to get where you are going. Going to faves is again more clicks than simple speed dial for the most frequently used numbers, I dont use it at all.
I hate to break this to you but getting work done is a core smartphone usage and not because of me, I'm just one guy out in the grind. Millions of other people in total are what got advanced dialer features into smartphones and they got there because they needed them. The stock dialers shortcomings are why there are so many dialers and other enhancements that add speed dial and search on the market. I am aware that smartphones are now going through a fundamental change in user base and they are not just for work anymore. A lof of people are using them and for many different reasons. I dont think my usage is any more imprortant than anyone elses but I dont think it is any way singular either. The stock dialer may work fine for you or anyone that doesnt need more capability but that doesnt mean that it is up to the standard of the segment. Its not. Thats a fact. Get real? lol
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I cant speak for all smartphone users and should only speak for myself, true that. Lets examine further. Anybody think I'm pals with Jon Rubinstein? Bill Gates? Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo? I wish because I would be living in a big fancy house and drinking champagne on a corporate jet. Nope, just an ordinary joe like everybody else here and I'm fine with that. Now despite lacking my direct influence all these people have seen fit to put far more functionality into their smartphone dialers. Think maybe it was because millions of other peoples wishes shaped smartphones into what they are and what features are standard fare? I mean no one here thinks they did it because I asked right? Features vary among all the outfits but android dialer has NO features. None. Thats a pretty weak resume when compared to what others bring to the party.
Lets look at the specifics. Contacts is much slower than T9 when your contacts run up into the hundreds. Nor is browsing through a very long call log easy or quick without a means to search it and this is best done in the dialer itself because it means less clicks which equals less time to get where you are going. Going to faves is again more clicks than simple speed dial for the most frequently used numbers, I dont use it at all.
I hate to break this to you but getting work done is a core smartphone usage and not because of me, I'm just one guy out in the grind. Millions of other people in total are what got advanced dialer features into smartphones and they got there because they needed them. The stock dialers shortcomings are why there are so many dialers and other enhancements that add speed dial and search on the market. I am aware that smartphones are now going through a fundamental change in user base and they are not just for work anymore. A lof of people are using them and for many different reasons. I dont think my usage is any more imprortant than anyone elses but I dont think it is any way singular either. The stock dialer may work fine for you or anyone that doesnt need more capability but that doesnt mean that it is up to the standard of the segment. Its not. Thats a fact. Get real? lol
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I took a look at dialer one, and, while it probably offers good functionality; it's nothing I can't get by having google gesture search & gesture bar installed; Stock dialer's fine for me and I have over 800 contacts. (facebook, twitter, Gtalk, last.fm, phonebook)
Gesture bar's intuitive too; so you can say G for example and if you've used it previously for grandmother, then it'll bring it up with just one. Quite sweet.
Saying that the stock dialer's crap though is kind of over the edge IMO, it's simple, usable, just like most of the default apps. That's why the market exists: for improved functionality. For the general user; stock's fine. For more advanced needs; see the market.
The address book has the drag bar on the right where you can get to anywhere in a second with just a drag of the finger.
So you're saying the stock dialer is fine for you but you dont actually use it except to tap 10 numbers and hit dial right? Not that you could do anything else with it but thats actually kind of funny.
It remains that you compare things with similar things and then make an objective determination about how something stacks up against those comparable items. Thats how I make a call on something. Isn't that kind of how its done? There is no dialer available which does less to my knowledge. Is it unfair to say the least capable tool of its type is crap? I'm honestly asking.
Dialer one itself is not the best dialer I have used. I had a better one over on winmo. The functionality was similar but it was more prettied up and had deeper integration. It is about the best I have tested so far for my usage on android though. I want to make it clear that I am not selling a dialer. My post from the start was that in my opinion that stock dialer is a turd and I want to use that shortcut for something else. Not a dialer one ad. This will be my last word on it since utilizing that shortcut is the real point of this thread. I will gladly respond off-line for those want to verbally *****slap me for being mean to the stock dialer.
Lol I don't even use the dialer application anymore, I just hit the search softkey - and type in in a small amount of the name I need to dial.. I've gotten use to this.
HTC does make their dialer application nicer than the stock Google experience, though.. I can really see why people would want to complain about this. HTC Sense for Android seems to have the implementation you people seem to urge for :/
So after having spent quite a bit of time browsing through all the stock touchwhiz apps, I have to say, for the most part I'm really enjoying TouchWhiz. The launcher can be replaced so even if it REALLY bugged me, it is an easy fix. The apps have really impressed me, though. The social integration is quite extensive.
I've gotta say my one beef with it is that there is really a lack of options I would expect in a non-standard app. If TouchWhiz apps had the extensive options seen in replacement apps like Handcent SMS, ADW.Launcher, I don't think I would have anything to complain about. It would be really nice to be able to disable certain tabs and options..
Anyways, what do you guys think? Do you like it overall or just assume get rid of it all? Which things do you love most about it and which do you hate?
I can honestly say that any custom roms without TouchWhiz will have to have something pretty amazing to draw me away from the stock rooted rom or another TouchWhiz based rom.
I agree completely. I am really enjoying touchwiz, but am missing some of the customization i have come to love with Android.
I am hopefull that future updates will address some of this.
So far I am really impressed with TouchWiz3. The contacts app should be ported over for everyone to use. I have the filters to only include contacts with phone numbers, having the ability to jump to a specific letter in the address book and sliding across a name to make a call.
Wish I could select a default calendar to post to instead of the phones My Calendar. I have to keep selecting my google calendar every time I create an appointment. It's a bit annoying.
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I'm loving TouchWhiz. Being a long time CMmod and ADW launcher user and having tried the old TouchWhiz version w/ the obnoxious sidebar, I was ready for CM6 before even laying my hands on this phone. Now I seriously doubt I'll switch even when CM6 becomes available.
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I have to disagree I'm not happy with TouchWiz and really wish I could get the AOSP contacts and calendar back that's all I really care about...
Calendar most importantly
I really like TouchWiz. I don't like the App Drawer though. I still prefer LauncherPro, so i'll be using that instead.
TouchWiz 3 is particularly ugly. Ugly colors, ugly icons. Just tacky as they come.
I would have returned the phone if it wasn't for LauncherPro.
I miss the flexibility of the vanilla Android 2.1. I've been using CM5 on my G1 prior to buying the Vibrant. Can't wait for CM6 for the Vibrant.
I so so on TW, I'm using LauncherPro at the moment but I wish I could use my samsung widgets
Could've been a 9.5 phone but some small but major annoyances
The touchwiz calendar app is nice, but you are unable to create a new event that defaults to you google calendar...its defaults to the phone's default calendar ("My Calendar"). Also, the default alarm time before an event is set to "none" and can't be changed to the typical 5,10,15..min before event. Why? How can this be useful...The beauty of android is in the cloud. I guess they are trying to appease to folks that don't use google services, but this is a damn Android, so im calling this a dumb and stupid decision. The same logic is somewhat applied when adding a new contact, but a pop up gives you a choice to save to sim, phone or google, so it is definitely better implemented in the add contact option, but I must ask...Who is buying this phone and saving contacts to the sim card? It's a damn Android!
The other issue which I initially didn't use much on my G1 (CM 5.08), but later fell in love with is custom ring tones for a specific caller. The only way to do this with the Samsung Vibrant is to actually save the contact on the phone vs with google. I just don't get this....once again This is an Android phone. Why did they create these additional profiles and not default them to the standard Android behavior. This is why fragmentation of the Android OS can be bad.
These are really my only major gripes after having the phone for less than a week, well besides that annoying shutdown tmobile jingle and the power/unlock button on the side...oh and I wish this phone had hdmi out. The video out is really a neat feature, but its not a good experience using the standard def audio/video out jack.
I know these may seem like minor annoyances, particulalry the calendar and custom ring tone, but getting the basics right is what I think counts the most. Leave well enough alone!
With all that said it is a great phone and once you go superamoled there is no going back.
I forgot to add that I running ADW and there is no way I could run this phone with that awful iphone look alike launcher. I'm also rooted and tethering (wired or wifi) does not seem to work.
I'm hoping Cyanogen works his magic with this device...it will be a beast!
I hate touch wiz and the fact that it looks like an iphone. Don't really like the icons and the accu weather click is hideous. I use beautiful widgets and adw for my launcher. I think adw us the best launcher because of it's ability to customize extensively.
Feeling Vibrant on xda-app
Anyone else having problems with ADW Launcher Notifications bar?
I've got "Hide Status Bar" unchecked and yet it just keeps disappearing, I tried with it checked and got the same result, it'll be there for a while and disappears, even when I pull down the notifications drawer it's still not there just a blank line of wallpaper at the top.
I've actually gone back to the TouchWiz becuase I can't reliably see my batter meter or signal strength.
Anyone get this?
I think a lot of you are missing the fact that the Launcher is not "TouchWiz 3.0". The skin goes much deeper than just the launcher.
Copying contacts to the phone is also very easy. Export them and then Import them. They're on the phone now... not sure if this would work because they're still linked through Google, but they are on the phone now too so you could unlink them from Google.
If you want ugly just look at a stock Android phone. Ugly, tacky.. since when is black and blue tacky? The icon backgrounds in the app menu might not be to everyone's liking but it's still WAY Better than the stock app drawer with it's hideous background and yellow coloring throughout
I agree. I don't mind touchwiz at all. I'd like the option to switch to default Android look though. My main gripe with touchwiz is the calendar and the fact that the applications menu is a cheesy rip of the iPhone menu, come on Samsung. Also, I quite enjoy the AccuWeather clock.
jaxrunner said:
...I know these may seem like minor annoyances, particulalry the calendar and custom ring tone, but getting the basics right is what I think counts the most. Leave well enough alone!
With all that said it is a great phone and once you go superamoled there is no going back...
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I'm totally with you on the touchwiz calendar and contacts apps having some serious issues. Though I really like the color scheme, love the subtle grey in notifications, the black task-bar, and the blue menu headings, it looks clean to me.
Anyway, I have found a temporary solueion for the Calendar, for myself at least. Should work for anyone who's rooted.
Grab the Calendar.apk and CalendarProvider.apk from the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6472313&postcount=674
then use a shell to backup TouchWizCalendar.apk/.odex and TouchWizCalendarProvider.apk/.odex
then remove all 4 files
and install the Calendar.apk and CalendarProvider.apk from the link
and grant permissions to let the new calendar & provider access your data when it asks.
I'm stoked because this brought back the default calendar widget too, which I was seriously missing
Add in the GenieWidget.apk from the nexus one here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600959
And I'm one step closer to having all the default apps and widgets that I like =)
Now if only I can do the same with the Cyanogen Dialer, Alarm and contacts app... not sure I'm feeling that reckless tonight though, lol.
cheers!
I don't like it in general, but a few additions really ought to get disseminated to every ROM.
I'm using ADW launcher.
You can tell TW is glued on top. It doesn't feel integrated. It actually seems to hamper the nice Google integration I've had. It's great that Tmo wants to offer something, but not letting me change my voicemail number manually (but leaving it in there) is forcing it on me. Makes me bristle.
As far as changing ringtones, I haven't gotten that far. Working on rooting and getting my adb going with it (to get the calendar back to vanilla, frankly). I imagine aContacts might solve that. Thanks for pointing it out.
The blues would be fine (although I'm not a fan since it's much like WM 6.0), except they don't match very well. It almost looks like a corporate argument, or a cheap contracted graphic artist, or both, and someone worked on the WinMo 6 team. And much of the blue-tinted gray text fields don't go with the fully gray Android button color. I'm not a fan of trying to do browns & ambers as accent colors, as a slice of the wheel, fine, but I've tried, and it just doesn't work. Maybe it's the shiny black tube. It just looks 2006 to me.
I love the control bar in notifications. I was doing it with BarControl, then BarTender, but it's so, so much nicer now. Add a "Fastbright" or better yet, replace the silent with it, since I can do that with one of the two hardware keys. The "just took off my rose-colored glasses" tint could definitely go.
I do like the phone app. A lot. Especially in-call. It's clean. The BT took too long to connect if it wasn't enabled first, but I can see this being streamlined, which would be slick. The calculator & dialer ain't as pretty, but being old I like the big, no, HUGE numerals. I like the "0" long-press to vibrate (wish it were customizeable).
I love using a gesture to call or sms. The sideways stuff has been wasted "space" so far. I hate the redundancy of using a line that could show a contact and a space in the menu to add a contact. It's also weird not having a way to go from contacts to favorites. I was having trouble on the CM ROMs, so I guess it's just nice that it works without a bug, too.
I guess I like the updates tab in the contacts app, it's a great way to check what's up before making a call, but I've already got my methods, so if I really feel like I need to know, I'll check first. My guess is it won't take off, not like it is, but it got me thinkin' how nice it would be to pull all those social networking sites together and list them under a contact. Total agregation. So I suppose it's a step in the right direction.
I doubt it qualifies as TouchWiz, but I adore the camera app. That action shot mode could prove useful. And the continuous shooting while holding the "button" is excellent. I don't get the "beauty " mode. Didn't help. (Maybe it's only set up for darker skin as an obscure FU to HP.) What I don't love is that it won't post to Picasa or Facebook by default, a few other third party photo hosting places, but not either of the ones I use... since I got on board with Android. Huh. I smell something here.
Music app is nice & simple. I haven't looked, but I'm guessing it's pretty lightweight. It carries my biggest gripes about the interface, tho, the empty space above and below each line mean less data for me to see on each screen, and it's on a big black, ultra-shiny tube.
regarding the OP: you CAN change the volume of the tmo startuip & shutdown jingle by going to settings-->sound&display-->system volume
the one thing i noticed when i pick my own ringtones that are either in the internal sd OR external sd storage, is that if i set them, then mount sd card, then unmount, then my f**king ringtones and notifications all change back to the annoying as F**K default. !! i would LOVE to be able to mount JUST the external sd OR the internal sd ONE AT A TIME OR both IF i wanted to.
but no... someone at samsung or tmobile didnt think of this. too me a lot of the little things we as smartphone users really care about were entirely overshadowed by the concern for aesthetic beauty of touchwiz 3 by samsung. tmobile or someone needs to push and update that will edify the smartphone features as they should be...
Good find
s0niqu3 said:
Anyway, I have found a temporary solueion for the Calendar, for myself at least. Should work for anyone who's rooted.
Grab the Calendar.apk and CalendarProvider.apk from the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6472313&postcount=674
then use a shell to backup TouchWizCalendar.apk/.odex and TouchWizCalendarProvider.apk/.odex
then remove all 4 files
and install the Calendar.apk and CalendarProvider.apk from the link
and grant permissions to let the new calendar & provider access your data when it asks.
I'm stoked because this brought back the default calendar widget too, which I was seriously missing
Add in the GenieWidget.apk from the nexus one here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=600959
And I'm one step closer to having all the default apps and widgets that I like =)
Now if only I can do the same with the Cyanogen Dialer, Alarm and contacts app... not sure I'm feeling that reckless tonight though, lol.
cheers!
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I may just try this...Thanks
Well, even though I actually don't have a problem with WinMo 6.5 outside of a few minor annoyances I've decided to make the switch over to Android...guessing NAND...though, still looking to here about WinMo 7...
I'm just noticing that there is more support and apps being developed for Android and the future of my HD2 suddenly shows more growth...have my fingers crossed waiting for Netflix to resolve the DRM issues they have with Android!
I was always waiting for a solid Android build that actually replaced WinMo (NAND is finally here). During that time I used WinMo and actually liked it. First thing I will miss is the customization. I don't think there's another Mobile OS that beats it in that department...and I REALLY like customizing.
I've been using Android more now and still don't understand how the NAND will work. Have read a lot...as far as installing, that won't be a problem with me. My questions start with customizing. Where will the media folder be? Is there a folder on the SD card that Android associates ring tones with? I make my own ringtones as mp3 files, so i need to know the structure of how Android handles media. WinMo was simple. Also, the Android build I was using did not support USB without major hickups...well...it just didn't work. I'm not going to assume all Android builds are like this, but can I expect Android to be able to link via USB and I can work with it as a storage device and create folders and organize in this manor?
I know you guys work hard and appreciate it, so please do not take this the wrong way. Which Android build is the most stable at this time with all features working? I ask this cuz I notice there tends to be some builds that come along much slower than others and bugs as well as a lack of hardware support can occur. Is there a build that's considered stable and all hardware is supported?
I've basically been trying to make Android provide the same experience as far as apps and ease of use I had with WinMo...I think I'm there.
Does Android have a set structure with Wallpapers...ringtones...documents and such? Example...does each file type have its own folder on the device or storage card in which Android associates the tools which manages them? I always keep my device clean and move all files to the card that don't NEED to be on the device. Is this possible with Android?
Android play well with Microsoft Docs?...Word?
I've always felt that Android ran smoother than WinMo 6.5. I noticed after a while it can get a little sluggish. Is Android like that? I believe Android is Linux base? I'm expecting memory management to better. On PC, I'm use to any Unix based OS to out perform WinAnything with resource management.
I also noticed something strange about some of these apps in the Android market. One, a lot of adds within the apps. Two, a lot of these apps tend to require access of priveledge areas that can be security risks...to make it worse you fine yourself saying why a browser would need access to anything else outside on internet and maybe GPS. Other apps have access to areas that make no sense to me.
Are their security issues with Android...it's market...or apps?
That's all i can think of now. Didn't have a moment to proof read, so please excuse me. Have to take care of a few things. be back shortly.
Thanks.
WOW! What can I say... Ditto. I love WinMo, but I'm fearful that I'm watching it's death rattle. Win Phone 7 seems like a illegitimate infant in a world of fast moving, focused, college freshmen (albeit, not the brightest).
I had a lot of reservations with switching from WM. Mainly related to the phone being able to handle work related stuff. So I too ran WM and android on SD. I must admit though, that after having run android for almost 2 months without loading WM, (I basically pretended I had bought a new phone and forgot all I could do with WM), I had figured out work-arounds and got it running more than sufficiently. The only problem I had was having to back-up the SD in fear of a random reboot corrupting the data.img. Now with NAND, it's no longer a problem. I can honestly say that the switch was easy, and I'm glad I no longer have winmo in my life.
IMO Android is a far superior OS, and I can't sing it's praises enough.
As for all the questions:
Media folder is built like this:
media
->audio
->->alarms
->->notifications
->->ringtones
->->ui
Different folders are available for their obvious uses (i.e. go into ringtone selection, and you don't get the ui folder listed).
USB is more than stable (for me at least), never had a problem since NAND. Having most stuff moved to SDCard the phone hates it when I plug it in as a disk drive, (widgets disappear etc.) but within a minute of unplugging it it's back to normal.
I personally feel the desire build are the best, however as for more stable? I believe we are reaching a plateau where stability is the norm. I have tried nexus builds, and have had no problems with them either, it's just personal taste. The HD builds (Desire HD Base) are a little more 'experimental' but with reading, you'll learn what works on each build, and what doesn't. Figure what's important to you, and check.
The best advice I can give is get hold of SPB Backup (For WM). Do a full backup. Then jump in at android's deep end. (After reading how obviously). If you don't like it, re-flash winmo, redo your backup, and it's like you never left. You won't regret it though.
Man I'd love to dump WM as well, bu I can't bear the thought of all the days going by where I can't be the dude on the bus who reboots into ubuntu to pass the time...sigh.
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The best advice I can give is get hold of SPB Backup (For WM). Do a full backup. Then jump in at android's deep end. (After reading how obviously). If you don't like it, re-flash winmo, redo your backup, and it's like you never left. You won't regret it though.
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Microsoft My Phone actually does fine with all the backup I need.
I'm still wondering about security issues. Example: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-20026804-83.html
Also, hit a bump in the road. It would seem that Android doesn't support the Mugen 2600 Extended battery!
The primary security issue with Android isn't Android or Linux, it's Google. Google's security is very problematical, Gmail has been hacked (as has Gmails security software) by someone.*
*Some think it's the Chinese government, the official Chinese response is, "No, it's just kids" but since all hacked accounts we know about have been dissidents, the government theory looks pretty solid....
The primary issue is NOT Google. It's the user.
If you're loading up banking apps on a device that you could lose, be stolen, or bluetooth hacked, then don't blame anyone but oneself.
I've yet to know anyone who's been phone-hacked if that's any consolation.
As a former hd2/android user Id have to say It makes the entire experience of the phone better.
I think it also depends on what you are use to. as far as customizing I would venture to say that there is just as much customization with winmo as there is android. Though id have to say I found myself looking for skins more often than not cause winmo was so ugly to me.
I enjoy having almost direct access to all my data without it having to look like winphone7.
As far as security I think its always been tighter because most people were on different types of phones. now that we have blackberrys and iphones and android phones I think possible viruses will show.
I believe google has a built in kill switch for rogue apps. Also if you buy apps from the legit market you should have no problem!
Ok two things that I'm trying not to get frustrated about before I put a little research into it...
First, why in the world does Android want to crop every image instead of using the entire image as a wallpaper?
I even have wallpapers that are the exact size of the display and Android still wants to crop a small portion of that image?....help please...
Second, why can't I get a simple widget or window dedicated to favorite contacts, such as sense in WinMo does without having to pay for it?
Android doesn't have a simple tool that allows you to setup a favs like Sense does in WinMo? There's this LaucherPro that wants to charge me to do so?
Thanks
Why does Photoshop Express require access to personal information, phone calls and full internet access?
Devils1stBorn said:
Why does Photoshop Express require access to personal information, phone calls and full internet access?
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checking the install notes It says
the only one that bothers me is the it reads contact info.
the phone state is different than phone info. it basically should shut down when you recieve a phone call. why it needs access to your contacts is why im uninstalling it.
I can also set basic contacts by long pressing a blank spot on the screen and selecting shortcuts>contacts>the actual contact.
wallpaper I believe if you set the picture with the proper resolution it shouldnt crop it
Devils1stBorn said:
Ok two things that I'm trying not to get frustrated about before I put a little research into it...
First, why in the world does Android want to crop every image instead of using the entire image as a wallpaper?
I even have wallpapers that are the exact size of the display and Android still wants to crop a small portion of that image?....help please...
Second, why can't I get a simple widget or window dedicated to favorite contacts, such as sense in WinMo does without having to pay for it?
Android doesn't have a simple tool that allows you to setup a favs like Sense does in WinMo? There's this LaucherPro that wants to charge me to do so?
Thanks
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1. You can just expand the crop window so it encapsulates your entire wallpaper, if it indeed is in perfect size. Keep in mind the crop window is sized for 3 homescreens or 5 or however many you have, so if your perfect size is for just one screen (480x800) you'll have a bit of a problem there.
2. You can just place contacts on the desktop. That's the closest you'll get without paying for this in LauncherPro. While you're at it, even if you don't want to pay - get LauncherPro and replace the default Launcher already. You'll love its speed superiority immediately.
A lot of devs put permissions on to prevent possible problems, also, not sure if it relates to android, but I know some permissions are needed for things that you would not normally relate them to, possibly things like automatically pausing operations when a call comes in etc...
schunniky said:
1. You can just expand the crop window so it encapsulates your entire wallpaper, if it indeed is in perfect size. Keep in mind the crop window is sized for 3 homescreens or 5 or however many you have, so if your perfect size is for just one screen (480x800) you'll have a bit of a problem there.
2. You can just place contacts on the desktop. That's the closest you'll get without paying for this in LauncherPro. While you're at it, even if you don't want to pay - get LauncherPro and replace the default Launcher already. You'll love its speed superiority immediately.
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I figured out the contacts on desktop, thanks though!
As for the wallpapers, I do try to expand the Window and it never completely encapsulates the entire image. I just dont get why Android doesn't allow the Wallpaper to remain static while your homescreens maneuver over it.
Hey.
I'm not used to publish anything here, but i have ordered a SGS 2, and while it is on the way - i'm looking on a great danish site for reviewing mobile phones, as they are reviewing it right now, with a section covering parts of the phone every day. So far, it has been VERY promising - but today, they have found something really annoying on the phone... the SMS- and MMS-software on the phone.
It is (and i just repeat there words) like this...
"The SMS- and MMS-software works, but there really is things that should be made better next time. As this function is one of the basic parts of a phone, it is crucial to make this part really flying, in terms of usability - unfortunately it really doesn't feel like this works in reality on this phone."
"The keyboard is really precise, and is very fast. But for example is smileys inserted as text, and not converted to graphic smileys like on other phones - only first when the message is sent, it is converted, which seems odd. And it is not described anywhere, that the symbol "." calls the available smileys on, and is a very limited collection by the way."
"Another BIG minus is that the symbol "," is gone from the main keyboard, and it seems idiotic to remove one of the most used symbols from the main screen."
"The word dictionary works fine, but has a tendency to make the textbox above jump up and down, which makes you crazy over period of time."
"The mobile also supports delivery reports for the sent text messages, but these works just crazy. The phone shows a "message is sent", but if you want to see if the message is received, you have to choose details of the message. This is just not good enough, as other phones has much better ways to show this." (the SE Arc is mentioned here as a much better way to show this)
"The MMS-part is just catastrophic. When a picture is received, its not possible to zoom the picture, without saving it in gallery first. And is goes completely wrong, when a picture is sent from the phone - it is very violently pixelated at the receiver. Why, when the camera is so good????. We have tested the mobile up against others, and it clearly sends pictures as MMS, in the lowest quality. Most of the other phones is very clearly superior, compared to the SGS 2."
"Verdict!!... clearly not good enough. We recommend getting the application Handcent, which handles SMS'es MUCH better then the original program on the SGS 2. But its just not good enough, that a user has to get thirdpart-programs to get the most out of this phone, which is branded as a high-end phone. It seems like Samsung just has forgotten that this is a basic function of a phone, and it has to work. So this part of the otherwise very good phone only gets 1 out of 6 stars. It still gets a star, as it CAN receive and send SMS text messages, but thats basically it..."
A very harsh verdict from a magazine, which is otherwise very happy about the new SGS 2, and Android-phones in general. As of that, I'm not in any doubt, that they really mean this - they hate this function in the phone. Happily i'm not using this function much, so my order stays where it is - just wanted to show you other this...
If you can read any danish, it is on mobilsiden.dk
I guess they never worked out that you can download new keyboards, and that the awesome swype keyboard comes pre-installed?
To be honest
I am one of those people who don't use SMS/MMS on the newer smartphones as I dont feel the need to as I connect with my friends on facebook or just chat with the google talk or msn messenger in real time.
To me SMS/MMS is a bit outdated with mobile phones pulling your emails and social networking is a breeze
Just a thought
You dont need to read finish. Get chrome to translate for you.
Seems to me that it is more of and issue of software bugs than anything will can easily be fixed. The keyboard issues is irrelevant and there are plently of keyboard replacements on the market that will fix (smart keyboard pro, thumb keyboard, swype). And I never use stock messaging apps either as Go SMS and handcent are vastly superior. The mms bug is a little weird and should be easily fixed with software tweak.
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Ive always used handcent anyway so no worrys
Go SMS Pro is another option, I prefer it to Handcent SMS.
AS usual one magazines review cannot be taken as the de facto standard .
jje
These guys don't have a clue about Android.
Sorry pals but you miss the point here.
I need a unbiased review on the installed software not what I can download or install later.
Please just have a look at sense it's awesome with facebook, keyboard contacts and SMS mms function . So what can do Samsung? Just take care to upgrade the firmware because it's just not acceptable to customize a brand new phone before it can be used properly!
Take care.
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Sorry pals but you miss the point here.
I need a unbiased review on the installed software not what I can download or install later.
Please just have a look at sense it's awesome with facebook, keyboard contacts and SMS mms function . So what can do Samsung? Just take care to upgrade the firmware because it's just not acceptable to customize a brand new phone before it can be used properly!
Take care.
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But would you go and ask for a review on an iPhone, but refuse to listen to anything they said about the app store? One of the key features of Android is that it's open and you get choice...
If you want a different SMS app, go to the market, search for "SMS", and take your pick. You'll probably like one more than what was installed, as that's the wonder of choice... Same for dialer apps.
Android isn't just what you get out the box. Treat it as a canvas, and start making it your own
Heck, I'll be removing touchwiz when mine appears, as I prefer the customisation offered by launcher pro
Just wanted to add that I think their review is just bad:
On a completely stock SGS2, here are the reasons I think the messaging app is pretty good:
1. Swype comes pre-installed, just hold down on the text box, select input method, select swype, and off it goes. So it's not 3rd party software, it comes with the device. As far as keyboards go, the swype keyboard is generally MUCH faster for writing messages to friends than most keyboards could ever hope to be - and the dictionary is top class.
2. When you get an SMS, the nice lockscreen notification and Android top-bar notification systems beat the hell out of the annoying "pop-up, disturb what you're doing" systems in most non-Android phones. As far as other Android phones go, it's much the same.
3. The speed of the device makes jumping into the SMS app and browsing around much nicer than most phones.
4. MMS - do people really use this more than once a month?
This is all just personal opinion - but then, so is the review. Zero facts involved in any of this - I don't see them having completed any sort of study on SMS productivity here...
I do agree that the samsung messaging app is not as good as the stock android one . Now all we need are some talented devs to put out a vanilla android build for this beast.
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Just wanted to add that I think their review is just bad:
On a completely stock SGS2, here are the reasons I think the messaging app is pretty good:
1. Swype comes pre-installed, just hold down on the text box, select input method, select swype, and off it goes. So it's not 3rd party software, it comes with the device. As far as keyboards go, the swype keyboard is generally MUCH faster for writing messages to friends than most keyboards could ever hope to be - and the dictionary is top class.
2. When you get an SMS, the nice lockscreen notification and Android top-bar notification systems beat the hell out of the annoying "pop-up, disturb what you're doing" systems in most non-Android phones. As far as other Android phones go, it's much the same.
3. The speed of the device makes jumping into the SMS app and browsing around much nicer than most phones.
4. MMS - do people really use this more than once a month?
This is all just personal opinion - but then, so is the review. Zero facts involved in any of this - I don't see them having completed any sort of study on SMS productivity here...
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Once a month for MMS? Wow that's often I've only sent 3 MMS messages in a large number of years... (more than I care to recall)
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I do agree that the samsung messaging app is not as good as the stock android one . Now all we need are some talented devs to put out a vanilla android build for this beast.
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Or to get the stock messaging app running as an "installable" app?
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Once a month for MMS? Wow that's often I've only sent 3 MMS messages in a large number of years... (more than I care to recall)
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I was referring to hardcore power users of MMS when I said 1 MMS per month - I've personally only sent 1 MMS ever. I don't even know if my SGS1 can even send an MMS, and I used that phone daily for a year.
I need a unbiased review on the installed software not what I can download or install later.
But i repeat one bad review is not worth a cent three or four yes .,
So what about the other reviews of the phone .
like
Again, we're giving the Samsung Galaxy S2 a big tick for its messaging capabilities – there's a plethora of options here, and it's very easy indeed to stay connected through pretty much any method you can think of.
jje
Not to make this a beat down or anything, but does ANYONE who uses sites like this and own an Android phone remain with manufacturer standard software without any form of customisation?? (unless of course your happy with it!)
i know a couple of girls with Android phones who don't really have a clue about its true potential in this sense, and certainly don't look on forums such as this, and use their phones as they come 'out the box'... but surely any user here could not care less about such a silly issue, as they would understand that all that was needed was a couple of clicks and POW! you've got YOUR phone the way YOU like it...
just sayin', rant over
Dickie
The stock app is pretty good i think. I was an iphone user until u broke my phone and used a cheap wildfire until my contract expired. The stock app on the wildfire was terrible. I switched to go sms and didn't like it either. But as another poster said, the beauty of these phones are their ability to be completely customized. One galaxy s2 issue i have is the keyboard. Swype is ok but i can't.get used.to it.
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I think the stock messaging app is freaking AWESOME. TRY LANDSCAPE MODE
Its like the galaxy tab email app. Loving it. And even thinking of porting it over to the original SGS
Hi guys,
I thought i share my thoughts and experience with people who have not decided which phone to buy. Maybe my input will make the decision easier (or maybe it will confuse you even more hehe).
Also I am hoping people with Android experience maybe can assist me with some of my negative bullets. I'm very new to Android so i apologies for my mistakes in my so called review/comparison.
And lastly i dont want to start any fanboy android vs iOS. This is just my personal view of the two phones/OS'es. Its maybe a bit unfair since i been using iPhone for the last 3 years and Android for only a week but still some of the bullets are independent of that. Any how lets dig into it, First i take the negative side of SGII and next the positive sides.
(maybe my topic is a bit misleading but below some of the items are compared against iPhone but i wont write all the plus/negative for iPhone since the SGII list is already pretty big and i want to focus on SGII which i hope can replace my iPhone)
- When i exit USB mode (where i can access the SD card) i cant find a way to reconnect it without cable unplug->plug. Is there a way i missed?
- Browser doesnt word wrap the text/column so good on table tab. I had a side by side comparison with my iPhone4. On iphone the whole article including images are resized and the text is fully readable. On Galaxy S2 images are not resized and text is readable but just barely. So the whole screen real-state is not fully utilized with the lower resolution and bad browser formatting.I have tested Opera also but the whole word wrapping experience left a very bad taste in my mouth. It was the worst experience ever, the article jump up and down every 5 sec or so, i think the browser got confused for some reason and couldnt decide how to format the page (this was when double tapping).
- Default browser crashes (go to qj.net where i usually visit to read about games).
- Text selection is a pain sometimes. First problem is that in every app it behaves differently. Second problem is that the process to select a text isnt so smooth.
- Confused about task and background proceses that start magically! When using taskmanager i can see mostly 2-3 tasks there and this makes sense. Now using other task killers suddenly they show 10-15 tasks. I understand these are background task but its beyond me why some of them suddenly are there. Like Kies, this should never be started unless i am using Kies. I can see now why my battery goes dows so fast (well compared to iPhone again). Why is there so many tasks started and why cant i control them from vanila Android. This should be a must. I dont want to root my phone to do the basic settings.
- Pretty much all application is downloaded can only be installed on phone memory. Why doesnt Google enforce developers to adapt to new versions of Android is beyond me.
- I havent found a way to backup everything on the phone (including applications and their save data) to my pc/mac. Without this i dont like to experiment rooting and other shizzles.
- Apps are not as smooth and functional on GS2 compared to iPhone4. Ex: Tunein Radio, i cant skip to next song. Ex2: ign app (iphone) allow for daily videos while the Android version is very poorly done and dont have any videos. Feels like Everything works just a little better on iPhone compared to Android phones.This is something most people cant understand if they havent had iPhone for a long time i think.
- Slow battery charging. I usually start charing at around 20% battery left. In one hour GS2 reaches around 40-50% while iPhone goes to 80%
- Headset lacks volume + next/back track when playing music.
- Creating folder through Kies Air not possible. for ex in media make a folder called movies.
- Drag&Drop in Kies air missing.
- When uploading a file through Kies Air there should be a progress bar, now it just looks busy and you dont know if its uploading or it hangs.
Ok now to some good sides on the Galaxy S2:
+ Brilliant screen (even if i think resolution could be better)
+ Flexibility and open market for every sort of application. Much like windows here you can add more functionality and make the phone very personal.
+ Excellent codec support. It plays pretty much everything i through at it. Well done Samsung.
+ Very good camera (even better then iPhone i admit)
+ Very good video recording (also better then iPhone)
+ Very light
+ Feels pretty good in your hand (even though i’m afraid one day the backvocer will break, i had a Nokia N95 and one day the smal plastic edges broke when i was opening the cover. Same thing will happen ti GS2 i’m sure)
+ Expandibale uSD.
+ Very cool fearure called Kies Air where i can access most studd through browser. (this can also be added to minus since it doenst work perfectly everytime i tested but the potential is there)
+ Nice features like pinch effect for desktop + many nice widgets.
+ I think you can make proper call recording on SGII (CallRecorder) but havent confirmed myself yet.
Lastly i like to say SGII is a wonderful phone and i really really want to use it as my primary phone. The one thing i hope Samsung fixes that will make me more loyal to Android is the default browser. The text wrapping must be improved and the browser more stable. I like the smoothness of the default browser and this is the most used part of the phone and so far my iPhone is better but i hope 2.3.4 update maybe can improve this.
Any input, tips, tricks are welcome. I really appreciate your help.
Hopefully this will help you, at least in some areas (i numbered them in the order that you have used):
1) using developer mode at least (i prefer it as its faster and more compatible than samsung's stuff) you can mount/umount at will the card on the pc via the phone without unplugging
2) You may want to try Opera Mobile, it seems to do a very good job at this. I'd like to see this in the stock browser too, but hey, this is Android, you have the choice to change the browser if you like ;-)
3) Well, same thing I guess. 2.3.4 may improve stability but the rest, I don't know, I wouldn't bet on it. I like Firefox quite a bit as well, but text wrapping is odd on it.
4) Android issue =/
5) I wouldn't use any task killer. Check the active apps and uninstall any app that doesn't behave (keep only the ones you REALLY need that still do stuff in the background, like email etc, but not too many). Seems to work a zillion time better for battery life. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a decent way to enforce such a policy.
Regular background tasks are not necessarily ever active. It just means they're frozen in the background and do nothing. As long as they do nothing it's fine, it's just faster to start them again (instant, in fact). The issue is really when they're activating every XX minutes while in the background.
6)Doesn't matter, the recent samsung phones such as the SGS2 have a HUGE internal memory compared to other phones, you'll never have space issues for that imo.
7)Install a kernel with CWM and then, boot in recovery and run a nandroid backup. It will create the backups on your sdcard. Copy them to your PC. Also, copy /efs using tools or manually..
You can restore using a CWM kernel later on and nandroid restore.
You can also use stuff like TitaniumBackup, but it's not nearly as thorough as nandroid backup (which is doing basically disk images, while Titanium and other such apps just copy app/settings)
8)Trollish subject. Some apps are superior on Android, some are superior on iOS. Heh SGS2's browser speed eats my IP4 for breakfast for example. If the same Android app doesnt have the feature of the iOS app, complain to the dev or find another app.
9) it's true it's like that, nothing you can do about it (technically, something could be done but that's probably not wise at all)
10) Use another music player, such as PowerAmp if you like. There's (many, many) other possibilities as well. It also let you boost the volume higher than the stock max volume (although I find stock to be loud enough)
11) Don't use KIES air to do that then ;-)
12) Likewise. There are apps like KIES air, you might want to try them btw. Make a little search, I dont have the name in mind, but they do exist, others will probably point them out
13) I do get a progress bar that moves, maybe a browser issue. Anyway, see point 12)
Cheers for the answers and help. I write the comments inline below.
bilboa1 said:
Hopefully this will help you, at least in some areas (i numbered them in the order that you have used):
1) using developer mode at least (i prefer it as its faster and more compatible than samsung's stuff) you can mount/umount at will the card on the pc via the phone without unplugging
A: i did test this mode but it asked me to unplug the cable also, same thing for MTP. Dont you get that?
2) You may want to try Opera Mobile, it seems to do a very good job at this. I'd like to see this in the stock browser too, but hey, this is Android, you have the choice to change the browser if you like ;-)
A: As mentioned i already tested this. Opera does some things better and some things worse. For instance visiting one of my favorite sites like Engadget.com the whole page jump up and down when i zoom in a little. To be honest the stock + Opera feel very bad compared to iPhones browser. I hope Opera or Samsung improve on this area. This is the most used feature for me.
3) Well, same thing I guess. 2.3.4 may improve stability but the rest, I don't know, I wouldn't bet on it. I like Firefox quite a bit as well, but text wrapping is odd on it.
A: Lets hope so
4) Android issue =/
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5) I wouldn't use any task killer. Check the active apps and uninstall any app that doesn't behave (keep only the ones you REALLY need that still do stuff in the background, like email etc, but not too many). Seems to work a zillion time better for battery life. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a decent way to enforce such a policy.
Regular background tasks are not necessarily ever active. It just means they're frozen in the background and do nothing. As long as they do nothing it's fine, it's just faster to start them again (instant, in fact). The issue is really when they're activating every XX minutes while in the background.
A: Yes true, i think Android just shows to much info for regular user. I have to see past the background tasks perhaps. Also some appz you can not remove like the hubs and such. Sure i can root and hack but i'm not so interested to do so just yet. Maybe when i'm a bit more user and understand Android better
6)Doesn't matter, the recent samsung phones such as the SGS2 have a HUGE internal memory compared to other phones, you'll never have space issues for that imo.
A: Actually i got over 12Gig of Appz on my iPhone so 16Gig (or actually 12Gig which is free) isnt all to much when you have navigator (3,5Gig) and games and blogs and such. But sure its enought for a time to come. The bottom line is Google must be tougher with the market otherwise the fragmentation will just grow.
7)Install a kernel with CWM and then, boot in recovery and run a nandroid backup. It will create the backups on your sdcard. Copy them to your PC. Also, copy /efs using tools or manually..
You can restore using a CWM kernel later on and nandroid restore.
You can also use stuff like TitaniumBackup, but it's not nearly as thorough as nandroid backup (which is doing basically disk images, while Titanium and other such apps just copy app/settings)
A: Thanks for the tips, i will write it down. As said i dont dare yet to mess with hacking but soon i was actually considering using the TitaniumB , hear its easy to use.
8)Trollish subject. Some apps are superior on Android, some are superior on iOS. Heh SGS2's browser speed eats my IP4 for breakfast for example. If the same Android app doesnt have the feature of the iOS app, complain to the dev or find another app.
A: I'm noob on what is there on the market so i'm sure there are many awesome apps on Android but when comparing the same app on Android vs iOS the Android was inferior. That was what i was comparing.
Another thing i dont really experience is the speed. To be honest i dont see such a huge speed difference when using my Wlan at home. But maybe you are right
9) it's true it's like that, nothing you can do about it (technically, something could be done but that's probably not wise at all)
A: I guess your right. On the other hand it could be possible a fw update could adjust some values for the current input, this could be a software limitation also i think. Lets hope
10) Use another music player, such as PowerAmp if you like. There's (many, many) other possibilities as well. It also let you boost the volume higher than the stock max volume (although I find stock to be loud enough)
A:Thanks for the tips will test this. Actually this is same thing as the copy/paste issue. I expect the behaviour to be the same no matter application (coming from iOS) but here it seems its application to application. This offer more freedom to developers for sure but it will also generate crapy software and result in a bad user experience. It would be so much better if there were a set of rules that all developers should follow on certain areas (this one is one such area).
11) Don't use KIES air to do that then ;-)
A: hehe true but this is the official way so i thought it should have been well tested and all
12) Likewise. There are apps like KIES air, you might want to try them btw.
Make a little search, I dont have the name in mind, but they do exist, others will probably point them out
A: Will do.
13) I do get a progress bar that moves, maybe a browser issue. Anyway, see point 12)
A: Strange, have to test again on IE which i hate, i use Firefox only. Also tested Safari on my mac.
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Thanks again for your input mate. Back to play more with my GSII
Applications can also be installed on the external sd card.
Applications and I also believe their user data are backed up on google server. So if you factory reset the phone and sync with google, it will download all previous apps.
About the slow charging - are you on old firmware version or do you charge over USB?
Creating a folder through kies air is not possible, that is correct. To be honest I am happy that there is even an app which allows to copy media etc. over wifi, you know there are phones which don't have that, for example the iPhone.
All apps I am using are working fine. If an app is not stable it's developer's fault, not the phone.
Ios is from 2007.. android 09.. 1-2 years between them. just think how far android have gone the last year.. give it 2 years and then compare it to iphone 4 in it current state.. well yes i know android is older.. but the initial realse was around 08-09 and IOS june - 07.
and yes.. so far iphone fits those who just want it to work better.. that means ppl not that used to computers etc.
and currently i dont own an iphone but i got a first generation ipod touch.. and yes even that stoneage IOS thing does alot of things better then my S2..
bah but this iphone vs android is getting old its a subject that can go on forever and ever..
well ill stick with my laggy android.. well i've been told by my iphony friends that its laggy.. i just dont see it
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Hi guys,
Any input, tips, tricks are welcome. I really appreciate your help.
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Nice overview.
IMO S2 is the best phone on the market now. But due to appl's hype, n matter what hardware specs they release, the iphone will always be superior to ANY phone. They could release an iphone with 1st gen hardware, and it will still make more sales than sgs2.
But, slowly more and more ppl are moving towards androi, and apple are losing sales. they even copied bb and android in ios 5..
Also coming from an iPhone 4 to the GS2 I can safely say that I don't miss the iPhone at all which I thought I would.
Having owned a Nexus S in the past and feeling a bit bewildered as there was a lot of stuff within the OS which felt unpolished and unfinished and now 2.3.3 is like night and day for that and it feels much more like a complete OS to me.
@OP give it time there will be a lot of things you can do with your new phone which would require rooting on your iPhone 4
The world of apps and widgets and customization is at your finger tips so jump right in and enjoy
My phone is running ADW Launcher EX with 90% icon dock size, 5x5 grid for homescreen, transparent drawer and miui weather
The only thing you might miss is the app store and iTunes integration (if you use it), other than that the Galaxy S II has it beaten quite comfortably.
@zxz0O0:
OOH that is cool , i think some option about it but didnt think it was what i thought it was nice to have it confirmed. Then this is pretty much what Apple is adding into iOS now with the cloud thing. Pretty cool Android has it already. By the way why do people use program like TitaniumBackup when there is google sync ? is there any limitation to the cloud backup? will all games data, programs data, settings be backed up or just Android OS stuff?
About FW i use the latest i think KE7 i think its called but i read there is a new one coming out next week so hoping for better battery life.
And your last point is something we can debate about for a long time but my view is that if you dont have strict rules developers do what ever they want and can let their app go without update. On the other hand if Google enforce some guideline like having option to install to SD card developers must go by that or their application is removed from market. In the end users will benefit and the platform will grow. But this is my view alone.
@olyloh6696:
I dont think its just hype really. I mean we are comparing a year old phone to SGII here and they are pretty much head to head in most scenarios i tested. But i see your point and i do agree that Android has a charm about it. I love the moving background, i love the whole flexibility to do what you want with the interface. Specially SGII's support for codecs so i dont have to spend 2 day re-encoding all my movies etc. So there are definatley benefits with Android but iOS has the benefit to be easy and working perfectly with the functions it offers from the get go. I think its a matter of preference and more advanced users will move to Android (a bit like me).
@daleski75:
Yupp i think i just need to play with it more and get used to the eco system
I think i will harass Opera developers to fix the formatting thing on the webpages now
Thanks for your input guys, gonna go out and take a walk now, later.
There are also many other good browsers, xscope, miren and dolphin hd to name a few, they all have their own way to format the page and all are pretty good many have different options too for formatting and text wrapping (I believe the default samsung browser also has some options)
also I believe google sync doesnt save all app data (eg angry birds progress is not saved)
That is correct...Google Sync doesn't backup app data (like your Angry Birds scores). This is where Titanium Backup (commonly abbreviated to as TiBu) comes in. It "sort of" does cloud backup (via Dropbox), but its strength really shows when you start installing/changing/updating custom ROMs. Typically, it's used to backup your apps and their data to a folder on your SD card. I can also do some pretty advanced stuff that you probably wouldn't use much (if at all). In my view, the strength is it's ability to deal with batch jobs. For example, before installing a new ROM, I backup all user installed applications (non-protected ones, anyway) with only a couple clicks. Restoring is just as easy, provided you have the paid version (it allows for hands-off batch restore of your apps). Another cool feature it has is "freezing" apps. Say you root your phone and may want to clean some carrier crapware off of it, but aren't *totally* sure. You can freeze those apps...they stay installed and can be defrosted at any time, but they won't be available for use until you do.
Also, I agree with you that a lot of iOS apps are much better than their Android counterparts. I believe this is the case for one main reason: there are tons of people using Android and tons of people on iPhones...you can essentially count on one hand the number of iOS phones Apple has to support, and they are all sold by Apple. Now, look at the number of Android phones and devices and their individual specifications...that makes developing apps for Android pretty complicated. Devs have to take into account different CPUs, memory limitations, and the biggie--SCREEN DIFFERENCES! However, I like being able to run an app developed for a phone on my Honeycomb tablet. Yeah, it may be ugly (not necessarily), but it almost always works! I have a network tool I use that only shows up on about 1/6th the screen of my tab, but I don't care...it still does the job.
Don't forget another important aspect of the Android vs. Apple thing...Apple has control of their devices and their operating systems, and the cell phone carriers don't have control over when Apple releases an update. On the Android side, you have some manufacturers that are prompt with getting an update ready, and those who abandon their devices after they leave the store shelf. Not only that, but those who do release updates, and most do, have to deal with the likes of AT&T and Verizon and everyone else here in the US. Each company wants a ROM customized only for them, and sometimes the manufacturers actually have to pay the cell companies to push out updates. This is what causes the splintering of Android, but openness is what gives it its strengths.
As a general rule, I find that the more "techy" people like the Android OS, since you can customize it and tweak it like crazy. Those who aren't quite as savvy will probably like iOS more (there's less to screw up and they all look the same). Please don't flame me for saying that...it's just a general observation that has many exceptions.
Well that's my two cents. Maybe it will be helpful in some way? <*schrugs*>
Brad
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There is no practical comparison possible between the mentioned phones.
Appreciate the explanation brad, TB is a nice tool indeed
Just one point, In regard to customization i can pretty do anything also when i jailbreak the iphone which is even simpler then rooting Android and what all techies do anyway with their Android phones
But i agree Android has its charm with the more open eco system.
The 2 area i wish to have before it gets perfect is the browsing and more resolution for the big ass screen (4.3)