Database Users

[Q] Ambient light sensor and backlight

According to the Leo/Linux status wiki (http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Status) the Ambient Light Sensor is still not working properly.
That would explain why auto backlight adjustment does not work.
However, when in the phone screen the light sensor seems to work in that the screen goes dark when I cover the light sensor, as expected.
So I am curious as to the status of this regarding auto backlight specifically, does anyone have any more concrete info?
Perhaps there are separate light sensors? Or perhaps the light sensor only works in a limited fashion for the time being?
Just curious, not complaining
(P.S. the free "Battery Level" widget from the Market has worked well for me in the absence of auto backlight adjustment, in case others find it useful)

well there's a proximity sensor on the phone that comes into play while you are in an active call. it disables the back as you put the phone to your ear. you were simply simulating that action by covering the sensor with your hand.

Ah ok! Thats what the proximity sensor is. That is indeed marked as working on the status wiki, so that makes sense.
Thanks!

What is second LED for in wildfire?

On front side, wildfire has two LEDs, on either side of phone speaker, on is for msg/call/charging and many, what is second for?
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Hi,
On the Front one Led is the msg/call/charging etc, and the other is a sensor.
While calling someone,if you put the phone to your ear,it will go black as if it is switched on however if you pull it away from your ear it will wake up again. i think it prevents and keys being Unnecessary being touched / pressed..
but i`m not 100% sure
Hope that helps.

True, also light sensor is for automatic brightness.

no, on right of phone speaker there is one sensor as well as LED.
sensor is for all what you guys said, don't know what's second LED for.

I hope you're not talking about the camera flash..

On the left side of the speaker is green/red notification/charge LED. Two holes on the right side of the speaker are NOT LEDs, theese are sensors. The one closer to speaker is proximity sensor (locks the screen and turns it of during a call if it is close to your head) and the second one is light sensor (for automatic brightness) Install sensor list from market to test this

Thanks mate
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

[Q] Anyone able to locate just where the light sensor is?

This may be a total noob question, but I was just curious to know the exact location of the light sensor because I cant seem to figure out where it is located.

EricSS619 said:
This may be a total noob question, but I was just curious to know the exact location of the light sensor because I cant seem to figure out where it is located.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That dot that looks like a front facing camera (FFC) - that is your sensor there that controls screen on/off on calls and the auto brightness.

riggsandroid said:
That dot that looks like a front facing camera (FFC) - that is your sensor there that controls screen on/off on calls and the auto brightness.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you sure, because when I ran sensor test that dot did change the proximity sensor values, but the light values wouldnt change even if I covered it completely.
The only way I was able to change the light value was to move the whole phone into a darker or brighter location, but not by finding a pinpoint sensor on the phone.

Edit 2: When I cover the proximity sensor dot (the obvious one) with my finger and shine a light at the phone, nothing happens, and when I remove my finger from the dot and shine a light right on it, the screen gets brighter. I suspect both sensors are in the same spot (the plastic dot you see probably transmits ambient light to the light sensor as well as housing the proximity sensor, in the way many computers use a little clear/frosted plastic piece to indicate the status of an LED that is buried in the chassis.
Try it with a flashlight and see if you get different results.

If you are interested in disabling the light sensor go into settings and manually set your brightness.
I have to say the proximity sensor works much better than on my Hero.
Sent from my HTC Evo Shift 4G

i noticed the proximity sensor responds much faster than the one on my Evo

The light sensor is just to the right of the proximity sensor under the speaker grill. Turn on auto-brightness and test it with your finger.
Sent from my PG06100

BrandoKC said:
If you are interested in disabling the light sensor go into settings and manually set your brightness.
I have to say the proximity sensor works much better than on my Hero.
Sent from my HTC Evo Shift 4G
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thats because i dont believe there is a proximity sensor on the hero.

karnoff said:
thats because i dont believe there is a proximity sensor on the hero.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess that's why it would be working better!

proximity sensor red light

hello
my sgs2 have a problem he brings a light by my camera the proximity sensor.
and he brings red light what is this is this a wetness warning or what?
my olde sgs2 hes in the water falls. and i have a new sgs2. only he gives to red light in the sensor and he was wet.
is that the problem or what?

Ehh.. What?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium App

My sensor gives red light the proximity sensor. Sorry for my english. Id this normal?
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

He is saying his proximity sensor is red. Mine is red too. I think its normal. I can only see it when its dark though
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

Yep, very weak red light is normal. That's because it rather bright near infrared light.

Okay i can see i call and sometime when my phone is in standby have anyone this problem?
And when i test the sensor with AndroSensor than can i see rhe redlight. Some people says on a forum that the sensor cans see of the phone wet is with water...
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App

rvosde1993 said:
hello
my sgs2 have a problem he brings a light by my camera the proximity sensor.
and he brings red light what is this is this a wetness warning or what?
my olde sgs2 hes in the water falls. and i have a new sgs2. only he gives to red light in the sensor and he was wet.
is that the problem or what?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
when you are making call or sensor is activated somehow it' became red.
thats normal. dont panic.

It has nothing to do with water.

Okay. I will thank our now i can good sleep have a nice night or day!
Sent from my GT-I9100 with (Litening Rom 5.0) using XDA App

My proximity sensor will lit up the red light whenever I open up TalkBox app, I don't understand why as that app doesn't even use proximity sensor, maybe a bug or coding error in the program.

xsaintzx said:
My proximity sensor will lit up the red light whenever I open up TalkBox app, I don't understand why as that app doesn't even use proximity sensor, maybe a bug or coding error in the program.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most probably .. contact the maker ..

rvosde1993 said:
hello
my sgs2 have a problem he brings a light by my camera the proximity sensor.
and he brings red light what is this is this a wetness warning or what?
my olde sgs2 hes in the water falls. and i have a new sgs2. only he gives to red light in the sensor and he was wet.
is that the problem or what?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i guess its a wetness sensor.. as i just experienced this issue some time back...
i had just taken a bath n my cell starting ringing, i went ahead n received the call without drying myself. As soon as i ended the call my screen went off, there was this red light coming out of one of the sensors, and the phone wasn't even switching on. I had to remove the batteries and place them back after which it started like normal.

xsaintzx said:
My proximity sensor will lit up the red light whenever I open up TalkBox app, I don't understand why as that app doesn't even use proximity sensor, maybe a bug or coding error in the program.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Talkbox uses the proximity sensor to determine how you are listening to your messages. If you hold the phone up to your ear then it will play the message through the earpiece. If you hold it away from your face then it will use the speaker.

karakemal said:
when you are making call or sensor is activated somehow it' became red.
thats normal. dont panic.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thx bro. i almost freaked out wen it happened again. and then i noticed that it only turns red wen m making a call ^_^

I have a problem with my proximity sensor too...
whenever im playing games/smsing/browsing with the phone...pretty much anything...
the red light is up...the only time its off is when lock...i used lcd test...it works fine(except ppl's proximity is 'null'...mine was '0')...anyone had this type of problem?
thx...=)

xWishx said:
I have a problem with my proximity sensor too...
whenever im playing games/smsing/browsing with the phone...pretty much anything...
the red light is up...the only time its off is when lock...i used lcd test...it works fine(except ppl's proximity is 'null'...mine was '0')...anyone had this type of problem?
thx...=)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
null = 0 -.-

then any idea why is my proximity sensor light always on?i don think its normal...=)

xWishx said:
then any idea why is my proximity sensor light always on?i don think its normal...=)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It may be a bug or something... Did you try updating your phone, or flashing a new stock/custom ROM to see if the problem remains ?

Proximity sensor which is located beside the front facing camera will always be activated whenever you're in a call. It's slightly red in colour, and more noticable in a dark room. To see the proximity sensor in action you can go to the phone dialer and key in *#0*# and it will bring up the LCD test. Select sensor and you can see the red light of the proximity sensor being lit up. Hover your finger or an object over the proximity sensor (need not to be covering the sensor) and the phone will vibrate and so will the background change to green.

SGS-II said:
Proximity sensor which is located beside the front facing camera will always be activated whenever you're in a call. It's slightly red in colour, and more noticable in a dark room. To see the proximity sensor in action you can go to the phone dialer and key in *#0*# and it will bring up the LCD test. Select sensor and you can see the red light of the proximity sensor being lit up. Hover your finger or an object over the proximity sensor (need not to be covering the sensor) and the phone will vibrate and so will the background change to green.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol at you... Did you even bother reading the first page of the thread ? Guess not, since you're just repeating what we already told the guy

[Q] Ambient light sensor not present?

Just as the title says-
I am not able to locate the light ambient sensor on my A500 tab- My previous A500 got replaced by acer because the speakers were defective in some way-
I have read that the light sensor is located below the volume rocker and rotation switch on the black glass and can be seen under bright light- i tried every way to find it no success.
I tried "proximityscreenoff" and "sensorlist" from the market. Both of the freewares listed an ambient light sensor on my device as -"Lite-on al3000a Ambient Light sensor"-
BOTH THE APPS COULD NOT GET ANY DATA FROM THE SENSORS :O-
DO we even have a sensor? or is it just me without it?
Can someone please use the apps and tell me if any data is being collected from the sensors?
Highly appreciated- thanks you

I tried with Sensor List and it does indeed show up the sensor, but doesn't seem to be getting any data from it. So it's not just your tablet.

Same thing with "AndroSensor", it shows it but no data change in it either. Hopefully we can figure out what the issues is? Are both of you using the factory install rom? Or a rooted one with a tweaked kernel?

sda.171 said:
Just as the title says-
I am not able to locate the light ambient sensor on my A500 tab- My previous A500 got replaced by acer because the speakers were defective in some way-
I have read that the light sensor is located below the volume rocker and rotation switch on the black glass and can be seen under bright light- i tried every way to find it no success.
I tried "proximityscreenoff" and "sensorlist" from the market. Both of the freewares listed an ambient light sensor on my device as -"Lite-on al3000a Ambient Light sensor"-
BOTH THE APPS COULD NOT GET ANY DATA FROM THE SENSORS :O-
DO we even have a sensor? or is it just me without it?
Can someone please use the apps and tell me if any data is being collected from the sensors?
Highly appreciated- thanks you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got Sensorlist and tried it and I do get data from it.
xhz/xxxx or xxxxxms and a red line. The upper limit is 227 and lower limit is -227 and the red checked number changes. It's nowhere as quickscrolling as the other sensors but I get a jagged red line moving across.

okay guyz i think i figured this whole thing out most probably-
I just came back from this electronic store, i closely examined the iconia on display- a500 - noticed the black glass under the volume rocker and rotation lock and THE LIGHT SENSOR WAS THERE! :O - looking like just any ordinary light sensor-
This made me come up to the following conclusions- since i have had another iconia before i returned it for warranty- i was able to identify the following differences-
1st variant-model
Light sensor present
Mic volume low
Volume locker button hard to push
Power button sorta pushed inside
2nd variant model -( the one i currently have)
Light sensor absent? Or hidden under black glass? (Manufacturing defect?)
Loose rotation lock (hardware) toggle
Mic volume high (as in proper)
-(i faced these additional problems)-> glass over the camera came off and the glossy label on the side slipped out.
So if u have the first variant, the one i previously had and the one i examined in the shop today- that should give u data from the light sensor, and the 2nd variant with hidden/absent light sensor won`t.
These are my findings. Feel free to point out and discuss-
What should we do? I m considering a second replacement now -_____-

With AndroSensor app open, try to put some direct light above the sensor and see if it shows some readings. I noticed that the sensor is in a sort of sleep status until it sees some light; after then it kinda wakes up and works properly.

I appear to have what you call the second variant model. I just checked with Androsensor, and the light sensor does appear to be present beneath the black glass, just under the volume up rocker. I agree it does appear to sleep until it senses a light source.

cm0901 said:
With AndroSensor app open, try to put some direct light above the sensor and see if it shows some readings. I noticed that the sensor is in a sort of sleep status until it sees some light; after then it kinda wakes up and works properly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just downloaded andro sensor-
Under light sensor it sed-waiting for event-
I took my hd2, turned on the flash! Pointed it right above the sensor and no response, it just kept saying waiting for event- so does this mean i have a defective sensor?
Can this be a kernel/rom related issue?
Pls someone try this and let us all noe.
Thanks

It's a long shot but you might attempt flipping the check mark a few times under the brightness setting and "auto adjust" as that probably toggles the sensor as well, though these apps are supposed to do it. Or close and start the app a few times and then check the sensor. I don't know what activates it but I can confirm that it has some kind of threshold where it sleeps or isn't active and another where it is, so you might want to try various things to, as others have mentioned, wake it up.
Are you using any ROMS by any chance or are you on stock? Have you done any sort of modification of the system - rooted and removed things or replaced kernels, etc?
If you are on a ROM or have done any modifications, you may want to try going back to full stock 3.2 or 3.1 and seeing if that helps before you decide it's actually defective.

Just double checked mine running a 3.2 rooted with thor's kernel. The sensor is working fine. But i did have to uncheck the box for the auto screen brightness to wake it up. Then i used a led maglight on the senor.
Readings from Androsensor:
Light (0.5mA)
55.0 lux
With the maglight cut on it.
65790.0 lux.
Please note with the maglight cut on you can see the light sensor hole then.

KILLER_K said:
Just double checked mine running a 3.2 rooted with thor's kernel. The sensor is working fine. But i did have to uncheck the box for the auto screen brightness to wake it up. Then i used a led maglight on the senor.
Readings from Androsensor:
Light (0.5mA)
55.0 lux
With the maglight cut on it.
65790.0 lux.
Please note with the maglight cut on you can see the light sensor hole then.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same as Killer, seems to be working, rooted 3.2, couldnt see until bright light on it.
Anyone have any idea where the mic(s) are, not really important just wanna know which end to scream into when doing voice search

Mic is located directly in the top center of the front face, in the space between the glass and the bezel. You should be able to see it with just a small amount of light shining on it.

FINALLY!
after various non stop auto brightness toggle on and offs - waiting for event went and 1 lux came xD - i shone light the reading increased - and stopped working agen :|
I dunnu maybe the apps are not fully compatible.
I can say it is working because i changed my brightness to full manually and then turned auto on and the brightness level set itself automatically.
So will we have to wake up the sensor from a state of sleep all the time or is it just for the apps xP - last confusion.
Thanks every1 for ur responses, the mystery is finally coming to an end xD!