I was wondering if anyone knew of a way of sharing the GPS device in my Dinc, so I can use it on mapping programs on my laptop, so I would need to register as a external comm device I think...
I'e heard people can do it with the camera, so I was wondering if its at all possible to do it with the GPS...
Maybe you know it can be done, with an app or setting, or maybe someone knows of an app that can do just this, please feel free to add your thoughts
MOD please move to where you feel its good, I couldn't figure where to post it
Thanks all
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There is no interface to use the GPS with external devices.
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There is no interface to use the GPS with external devices.
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But couldn't one be developed?
I have been wondering this since I had my first gps enabled smartphone. Every now and then I would search for this exact question. If apps on the phone can use gps why couldn't a laptop see it?
Sorry if this is a dumb question.
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so you guys want an app to send gps signal to a laptop?
This is based on opinion but i don't believe the gps chip on the phone can broadcast via usb or blue tooth due to hardware limitations. on the other hand if there was a program that could display the phones screen then i guess thats about as close as your gonna get.
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so you guys want an app to send gps signal to a laptop?
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Basically yes, So I can use it with my Chart Plotter programs, and location service programs.
I once had a USB Bluetooth dongle, and it registered as a Comm device over bluetooth, I was just wondering if thats at all possible to do using the Dinc, as android is very open, might be a way.
Thanks if anyone actually looks into this, willing to donate if anyone gets this working
I know this isn't what you asked, but... USB GPS dongles are pretty cheap on ebay and other places, I've used them before and they work well. Just a thought.
This may not be exactly what you want but it the closest thing I can think of. http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.gpstether
Im not sure if there is a client for windows, but it will work with gpsd on MAC/Linux.
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This may not be exactly what you want but it the closest thing I can think of. http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.gpstether
Im not sure if there is a client for windows, but it will work with gpsd on MAC/Linux.
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Hmm interesting, so if this works with Linux/mac , maybe something can be developed for Windows, and that is similar or something, i'll keep my eye out I guess, if anyone knows anything, please post
junjlo said:
This is based on opinion but i don't believe the gps chip on the phone can broadcast via usb or blue tooth due to hardware limitations. on the other hand if there was a program that could display the phones screen then i guess thats about as close as your gonna get.
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Its not the GPS chip that has to broadcast. It theoretically works like this:
The GPS gets your location and the all data it was meant to collect. It returns that data to your phone. There would be an app on your phone that collects and aggregates this data and sends it over Bluetooth or USB. Then a program on the client computer would be like a driver. It would make the client think your phone is a gps receiver and collect the data your phone is sending over. Then, any program that uses the gps functionality will recognize your phone as a GPS device.
I only know how it works, but I am not good enough to actually develop it.
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Its not the GPS chip that has to broadcast. It theoretically works like this:
The GPS gets your location and the all data it was meant to collect. It returns that data to your phone. There would be an app on your phone that collects and aggregates this data and sends it over Bluetooth or USB. Then a program on the client computer would be like a driver. It would make the client think your phone is a gps receiver and collect the data your phone is sending over. Then, any program that uses the gps functionality will recognize your phone as a GPS device.
I only know how it works, but I am not good enough to actually develop it.
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Well thats a start, do any Developers know anything about this?
BlueNMEA
At least one dev has this working with WinMo and there are a few reviewers who have gotten it to work with a laptop... Google "BlueNMEA"...
Cheers!
Thanks for the info, i took a look at it, but doesn't seem to be working perfectly yet, we'll have to see what happens in the future,
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I was pondering if it would be possible to turn the Wizard into a GPS tracking device. Im not sure if someone has already created a program for this but it seems like it would be pretty simple. Basically just have the device send GPS coordinates via data connection to a host pc and have them translated to a map. I might be missing something though. I dont have a gps receiver yet to try it out, but I would like to know if anyone has done it before or if its possible.
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I was pondering if it would be possible to turn the Wizard into a GPS tracking device. Im not sure if someone has already created a program for this but it seems like it would be pretty simple. Basically just have the device send GPS coordinates via data connection to a host pc and have them translated to a map. I might be missing something though. I dont have a gps receiver yet to try it out, but I would like to know if anyone has done it before or if its possible.
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Hi there, I have done this with a little piece of software from here.
www.3dtracking.net
When I first heard about them, the service was free. They now charge for most services but the free system is still there.
When you get to that page, look under "About 3dtracking" and the free bit is listed at the bottom.
All you have to do is create an account, which is simple and then download the software.
For anyone else reading this, they do software for the S60 series phones too. I had it running in my Nokia 7610 (Before the wizard of course).
The 7610 software is buggy but the PDA version seems to work excellently.
Hope that answers your question.
GPS tracking...
Yes, there are a number of programs available to do that.
Try mine:-
http://www.grillo.biz/position/software.asp
or
http://www.whereismygps.net/
Charlie Grillo
Is anybody using the GPS control panel without problems? Or had them resolved somehow?
The GPS Intermediate Driver is a new feature in Windows Mobile 5 that is supposed to allow multiple applications to use the GPS device (its serial port, to be correct).
Usually, the GPS control panel needs to be enabled by setting the Hide value in [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings] to 0. (In addition, it has been suggested to remove it altogether, and to add a DWORD value "Group" = 2.)
With the GPS control panel, the GPS Intermediate Driver can be enabled and public and private COM ports can be configured.
All these settings end up under [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver].
One reboot or soft-reset later, and this is supposed to work like a charm. (http://blogs.conchango.com/kenibarwick/archive/2006/03/19/3119.aspx).
Except that, with my TyTN and a Xaiox Super III Instant Fix, it doesn't.
The GPS works fine directly with the Nemerix test app or GPS Tuner, but using the Intermediate Driver, the Bluetooth connection is never initiated and no data is received.
No error message, whatsoever. Just silence.
Now I would like to know if anybody else had this issue and if and how they were able to resolve it.
The PocketPC SDK documentation lists registry values to configure GPSID logging (CurrentLogFile and OldLogFile), but to no avail. The files are not being written, which is not a surprise because the Bluetooth connection is never brought up.
The Xaiox InstantFix is a small cheap Bluetooth GPS mouse that has quite a remarkable sensitivity. It really does work indoors, (not in the basement though) and city/forest areas are not a problem at all.
My TyTN is fresh from repair and I hadn't need a reset in a week if it wasn't for this problem (and my frustration-compensating playing around with Wisbar Advance and the Vista theme, but that's another story).
Hi HB_TyTN,
I have the same problem. Using an HTC Universal, ROM 1.90.96 and Radio version 1.130.00.
wait, i thought the vario II doesnt' even have GPS on it?
chamelion said:
wait, i thought the vario II doesnt' even have GPS on it?
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Check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1028940&mode=linear&highlight=chip+sets#post1028940
and this continuation of same thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279151&page=5&highlight=chip+sets
Mike
hmm ok... so its a controversial topic. seems nobody has actually made use of the GPS funcionality, it just seems that there may be something in there that allows for GPS?
chamelion said:
hmm ok... so its a controversial topic. seems nobody has actually made use of the GPS funcionality, it just seems that there may be something in there that allows for GPS?
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You mean you didn't know about the MI5 FBI plot to track Hermes owners being as they're obviously radical with phones of mass destruction? Conspiarcy theory, tosh, that's just a seeded idea to convince us they don't know we spend 24hrs a day abusing our TyTns in the garden shed, developing a today screen plug in called Global Thermo Nuclear War Beta!
Mike
mikechannon said:
You mean you didn't know about the MI5 FBI plot to track Hermes owners being as they're obviously radical with phones of mass destruction? Conspiarcy theory, tosh, that's just a seeded idea to convince us they don't know we spend 24hrs a day abusing our TyTns in the garden shed, developing a today screen plug in called Global Thermo Nuclear War Beta!
Mike
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dude, when did the beta come out??
<scrambles into the garden shed to install the beta>
chamelion said:
dude, when did the beta come out??
<scrambles into the garden shed to install the beta>
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Watch out for mushroom cloud can cause minor irritation!
Mike
Bit of a noob question here, but is there a way to use SAP to utilise my cellphone's SIM contacts and network so that when I'm indoors I can text and call on the AMEO and then disconnect when I'm out and about. Currently I have to SIM swap as I don't like making calls on the Ameo in public.
Basically I want my Ameo to act a bit like a RSAP car kit....utilizing my phone's SIM list and transmitter when needed. This would not only be very convenient but would I think make the Ameo's battery last a hell of a lot longer as in my experience GSM/3G drains a lot more power than BT.
could the Ameo do this?
Or is it possible to develop a programme to do this?
I trust that someone out there knows.....
(Both handsets support SAP)
is that a no then?! Surprised noone else has thought of this considering the size of the ameo. Does anyone even know if it's possible to 'trick' the ameo's bluetooth stack into thinking it can act as a handsfree car kit? Or would this fall down to the capabilities of microsoft's stack? Come on people.
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is that a no then?! Surprised noone else has thought of this considering the size of the ameo. Does anyone even know if it's possible to 'trick' the ameo's bluetooth stack into thinking it can act as a handsfree car kit? Or would this fall down to the capabilities of microsoft's stack? Come on people.
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I seem to remember this has been asked before about 3 or 4 months ago and not reply was received then, either (sorry!)
apd said:
I seem to remember this has been asked before about 3 or 4 months ago and not reply was received then, either (sorry!)
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That's a real shame.
Would be nice to develop a little app to allow this, after all it's manipulability and flexibility like this which has allowed the bluetooth protocol to develop the way it has.
Surely someone out there knows whether it is AT LEAST possible. This sort of development would perhaps also form the possibility of using the HTC shift for voice calls if a similar SAP mod can be developed - as this is the only feature the device lacks!
Come on - I'm gagging for someone who knows about this to give an answer.
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That's a real shame.
Would be nice to develop a little app to allow this, after all it's manipulability and flexibility like this which has allowed the bluetooth protocol to develop the way it has.
Surely someone out there knows whether it is AT LEAST possible. This sort of development would perhaps also form the possibility of using the HTC shift for voice calls if a similar SAP mod can be developed - as this is the only feature the device lacks!
Come on - I'm gagging for someone who knows about this to give an answer.
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SAP? You mean the software SAP? I use it with remote desktop. I dont think the software is meant for windows mobile. Also I message my clients using Outlook so there is no real problem. I can be logged into SAP as Admin 24/7 via HSDPA or GPRS.
it was i who created that post about using a SAP profile as a remote phone...
and not a single person chimed in then...
i have done soem extensive research on this subject...
i have found that you need teh development kit for a sim access server (as our phone already has a license)
basicly if someone has a nice car (dump the os) =p
but if we dont have as im access server its not possible...
if someone can get their hands on a sim access server this could very well be a possibility
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SAP? You mean the software SAP? T0I use it with remote desktop. I dont think the software is meant for windows mobile. Also I message my clients using Outlook so there is no real problem. I can be logged into SAP as Admin 24/7 via HSDPA or GPRS.
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No sap in this case means sim access profile. It is the same protocol used by bluetooth car kits which basically allows you to remotely view your contacts and call them or text them remotely. Such a utility would i think be brilliant with the ameo as one could connect to, say a nokia n95 and use its transmitter and phonebook whilst at work or static to make and receive calls and browse the internet, then disconnect when out and about. This would be worlds apart from using a bluetooth headset i think.
Please spare me, the search function just... sucks.
But i really would love to know if theres an application that allows the transfer of GPS data from our built-in GPS phones to our PC's. Either through Bluetooth, USB, or Wifi. Thanks in advance.
I found something interesting, this may be what im looking for. This may help others who are also interested.
If you know of anything better. Please let me know.
http://franson.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3973
It looks like you found GPSGate. Another, free option is GPS2Blue. Lots of good info in Talynone's GPS thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363431
I can't post this in development because I an still a nobody ...
Would it be possible to add in rfcomm for Bluetooth SPP serial port? The Nook would make a great tablet for telescope mount control over BT. You can't do it with the iPad due to the security around the BT stacks. It would also allow NEMA GPS modules to be read for different applications.
I'm running CM7 7.0.2 and this isn't yet available.
Just a dream?
Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but you can send the GPS data to the Nook form a GPS device like a Cell phone or GPS receiver. I use a stand alone GPS receiver and sometimes my Droid cell phone to send my location to the Nook to use CoPilot and Google Maps on the Nook. That's at least half of what you're talking about right?
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Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but you can send the GPS data to the Nook form a GPS device like a Cell phone or GPS receiver. I use a stand alone GPS receiver and sometimes my Droid cell phone to send my location to the Nook to use CoPilot and Google Maps on the Nook. That's at least half of what you're talking about right?
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Hmm, you got me pondering...
I got out my trusty Garmin GPS 10 and I can pair but it's not connected. That could be for a couple of reasons (the Nook only connects on demand maybe.) But if what you are saying is correct, maybe it does support SPP since it uses a comm port for the GPS.
But, when I connected from my notebook and checked the services, SPP wasn't one of them (just OPEX and AD2P.) I will keep playing but I half expect that part of the SPP stack requirements are missing.
On the plus side, if the GPS will work too, that is a second plus since it's nice to be able to ask the GPS for the specific time and location during the telescope setup (it matters.)
I'll look for an app in the Market that might read an external GPS devices and show the location. I notice most apps are for reading the phone GPS (which we don't have.)
Thanks!
Android does not support SPP, but there are multiple apps in the market which do, Bluetooth GPS Provider is the one which I prefer as it works very well and just works no matter what.
Thanks folks,
I fired up the Garmin GPS 10 and it works using Bluetooth GPS. That means an application can add in the SPP. That is perfect and gives us hope!
I really appreciate the responses!
Awats said:
Thanks folks,
I fired up the Garmin GPS 10 and it works using Bluetooth GPS. That means an application can add in the SPP. That is perfect and gives us hope!
I really appreciate the responses!
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Yes, apps can directly talk with a Blutooth GPS. There are a handful which do this, or again, Bluetooth GPS Provider will provide the BT GPS to every app that asks for GPS.
This isn't only about GPS. GPS is just one aspect. I want to communicate with any serial device over BT. My understanding from reading it that rfcomm and the applications can supply that function.
What I did notice last night is that even without an application that supplies rfcomm, the Nook would still discover the devices unlike the iPad. I could pair to pretty much anything I wanted but it wouldn't connect. That's normal from my perspective.
At least I know it can be made to work.
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Android does not support SPP...
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Well, the XOOM does at least. Not sure whether it was Motorola's or Google's doing though. I use a Bluetooth to Serial adapter from Roving Networks quite successfully with it. I'm unaware of any other devices that do it.
I agree that native Android doesn't support SPP but the rfcomm library does and if it's linked into the application, SPP works.
Now if I can only find a way to use VNC to control my PPC from the Nook without going through a remote server (maybe via adhoc or BT ...)
Any device at API level 5 (2.0) or above may support BluetoothSocket, RFCOMM and therefore SPP unless the OEM did something to screw it up.