Ok well I went thru many testing options when it came to the sound quality out of the touch hd compared to other devices.
1- to test the sound quality I used the following players
a- core player 1.3
b- pocket music 5.1
c- touch flo player that came with the htc
d- pocket player
and all sucked big time, when I connected the device to a sony adapter cassette in the car. The sound is really awful comapred to all the devices I own like the iphone, or ipaq. WHAT THE HELL IS THE PROBLEM. I tried to use the equalizers in all the palyers, aslo the audio booster but the sound sucks. I tried to use also an adapter that has 3 rings on it to connect to the htc hd.
Please am I missing something here???
hykhleif said:
Ok well I went thru many testing options when it came to the sound quality out of the touch hd compared to other devices.
1- to test the sound quality I used the following players
a- core player 1.3
b- pocket music 5.1
c- touch flo player that came with the htc
d- pocket player
and all sucked big time, when I connected the device to a sony adapter cassette in the car. The sound is really awful comapred to all the devices I own like the iphone, or ipaq. WHAT THE HELL IS THE PROBLEM. I tried to use the equalizers in all the palyers, aslo the audio booster but the sound sucks. I tried to use also an adapter that has 3 rings on it to connect to the htc hd.
Please am I missing something here???
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It all comes down to how you have your HD setup. First, check the app called "Audio Booster", it comes out of the box configured to sound like ****, turn it off. Get the HD Tweak app and disable the 100db sound cut barrier and use the graphics equalizer that is in your chosen player. I use Mortplayer and now I can say that the playback with my Sony in ear headphones is really good.
HD Tweak has a setting that should reduce the ring delay.
me I also agree that audio booster sucks, when switched off sound gets much better
Also, a cassette adaptor is likely to limit the quality you can achieve. Better to compare through a decent set of headphones.
Seriously man, putting that line in your topic title is misleading.
I've tested Touch HD's sound on high quality headphones (Ultimate ears Super.fi 5XB) and the sound is great even on stock settings. In fact, my iPod is getting a lot less playtime since I bought THD.
Did you notice any hiss in qiet moments or on gaps between tracks? For me that is exactly the same as it was on Kaiser
Yes I noticed a hiss and a small gap in a song, i even installed the hd tweak, and sd tune up. But still the problem remains.
I am not talking about using it with headphone, I am talking about using it on my car stereo, thru a sony cassette adapter. Aren't we all in need for a great sound in the car, and why all the other devices sound great on my car stereo except the hd
I only have Shure E2C for "in move" devices, but I remember them sound much better than with Touch HD
hykhleif said:
Yes I noticed a hiss and a small gap in a song, i even installed the hd tweak, and sd tune up. But still the problem remains.
I am not talking about using it with headphone, I am talking about using it on my car stereo, thru a sony cassette adapter. Aren't we all in need for a great sound in the car, and why all the other devices sound great on my car stereo except the hd
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I'm having similar troubles here! Turning down the volume to about 30% on phone and using car stereo volume helps a bit. Also try different players and get rid of the car charger! It truly sucks as my other ppcs & mp3 players do not need tweaking AT ALL! They all play & charge at the same time.
hykhleif said:
I am not talking about using it with headphone, I am talking about using it on my car stereo, thru a sony cassette adapter. Aren't we all in need for a great sound in the car, and why all the other devices sound great on my car stereo except the hd
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Is this a joke? Sorry I am confused. You are talking about the needed GREAT SOUND an than you are talking about some funny CASSETTE ADAPTER?
Conclusion: If you want great sound in your car, you should not spend all your money for a phone - How about new car stereo - some of these funny new toys supporting funny things like LINE IN or USB-MP3 or Bluetooth A2DP / AVRCP (handsfree profile). I had a really hard time to remember how a cassette looks like.
The next one blames HTC becauese the HD doesn´t sound good when connected to the phono-in of his late ´80s stereo.
From my point of view, the HD serves a better quality as most of my "old" mp3 Players, better than my iPod but not as good as my MP3 from Philips. Even so, yes i´ve noticed these short lagggggs in playback. I wouldn´t have noticed them if someone here hadn´t mentioned them.... so thank you
What´s next? 8-track tape adapter doesnt work right on your high end car stereo?
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Did you notice any hiss in qiet moments or on gaps between tracks? For me that is exactly the same as it was on Kaiser
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My Kaiser didn't had any... But in the HD I notice it happens once in awhile using bluetooth phones. But in general i got tell the SOUND ROCKS.... (after you used HDtweak to disable the 100dB limit!)
The title is really misleading for a new costumer, it's not true that the sound output sucks in my tests it resulted better than my old n95 8gb and an ipod touch.
For the average costumer the sound output on headphones is good.
hykhleif said:
I am not talking about using it with headphone, I am talking about using it on my car stereo, thru a sony cassette adapter. Aren't we all in need for a great sound in the car, and why all the other devices sound great on my car stereo except the hd
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If you are noticing differences between devices when using the tape adaptor in the car but not when using headphones, there has to be something different in the setup. (Or you're using apple-grade headphones )
The tape adaptor is designed to mimic the response of headphones, so that the player doesn't see a difference. I second the suggestions of turning off the audio booster and 100 dB cutoff, as these can and often will interfere with the signal.
Once you've turned off the equalisers, try setting the volume on the player to about 50 - 70% and then adjust the car stereo to your required volume. There may be a mismatch when the HD amp is either running at really low or high outputs, causing distortion.
It would also be helpful if you could characterise the type of problem you're having: Hiss, low level overall distortion, distortion mainly on peaks, poor frequency response, etc. Different effects will typically have different sources.
NB: don't rubbish the tape adaptor! It serves its automotive function for me as well, although I'll take my Grados and Westones when the wife isn't in the car
Edit: Just did a quick comparison with my iPod Nano and there is very little between them on good headphones.
I can't confirm that at all, using Koss Porta Pro headphones and Coreplayer for playback (audio booster off, 100 db limit disabled, equalizer enabled) I get fantastic sound for a portable device, something's wrong with your setup.
Just connected my HD to my Z-5500 500W sound system using the analogue connections. It sounds perfectly fine to me, as good as anything else analogue i have connected.
I'm using my Touch HD with a pair of Sennheiser HD550 and some BOSE Quietcomfort 2 headphones. By no means super high-end, but good enough that I can say that the sound on my Touch HD is very good. No hiss at all, good clarity and overall good sound.
I have installed hd tweak and I tested the sound with Coreplayer and the inbuilt one in TouchFlo.
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I can't confirm that at all, using Koss Porta Pro headphones and Coreplayer for playback (audio booster off, 100 db limit disabled, equalizer enabled) I get fantastic sound for a portable device, something's wrong with your setup.
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Well Shure E2C are isolating earphones you put into ear channel. They are very sensitive, you hear everything louder than on any other type od headphones especially noises. And there is hiss/noise trust me. I also have headband Sennheiser HD580 & PX100 they are ok with HD. The trouble is that there is no hiss/noise at all if I plug shure's into my computer (SB X-Fi Extreme Music) and quality is also bit better.
I also have isolating earbud type headphones and the HD sounds no worse than any other Mp3 player ive used, including an iPhone or N95 8GB. Its not a high end audio device, comparing it to a 24bit reasonably high end PC sound card is not fair.
OK pass, I'm an audio-freak type. Maybe I just expect to much from HD
using UE triple.fi 10 vi's and the sound from my MP3's on the HD is very good... i have no complaints.
I hooked up the earphone out jack to my aux input on my car today. The sound was awful. I had to turn up the radio volume quite a lot to get the same level of sound as my Rhapsody Ibiza player. The sound was no where near as good as my normal player and was focused mostly in the tweeters in the front of the car.
Has anyone experienced something similar. I was using the Rhapsody client for Android as the player. It seems to sound fine through the OEM-supplied headphones otherwise.
You have to push the headphone in harder. I'm pretty sure its not all the way in . That's what happened to me . Or change your AUX cable.
I recently got me a "Miccus BluBridge BBMR-02" bluetooth receiver to listen to music in the car. I noticed that music sounds a bit distorted. Kinda like if you use AUX input and make it too loud. If I lower the volume it doesn't help.
Now my friend with his iphone 4 connected to the same bluetooth adapter and his music is crystal-clear
I've tried few different roms (CM, stock, Redemption, etc) but they all have this issue. Is it a known issue or it's just my phone?
so your saying you need compression? Have you tried a rom that has DSPManager installed. That app does amazing things.
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I recently got me a "Miccus BluBridge BBMR-02" bluetooth receiver to listen to music in the car. I noticed that music sounds a bit distorted. Kinda like if you use AUX input and make it too loud. If I lower the volume it doesn't help.
Now my friend with his iphone 4 connected to the same bluetooth adapter and his music is crystal-clear
I've tried few different roms (CM, stock, Redemption, etc) but they all have this issue. Is it a known issue or it's just my phone?
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I've noticed on all of the ROMs that I've installed...with the exception of the Desire HD port...that if I launch whatever music app I'm going to use before the bluetooth headset is paired, I get a choppy audio.
Also, on many of the ROMs out there...there's an audio problem that has been described as "devil's voice." It has to do with how audio is processed in Froyo versus how it was done in the past..."stagefright" I think it's called. Most ROM chefs have a fix for it.
How the does bluetooth sound for you guys? Mine seems to be worse after the B29 update (not for certain that's when it degraded). I have a decent car stereo setup, but bluetooth distorts and crackles in the mids and highs. It's not unlistenable, but I thought my stereo was on the fritz until I used my 3.5mm input from the headphone jack, which sounds just fine. It can't be that the DAC is that much better, as my other phones sounds fine and this used to.
Do you have any thoughts or experience with something besides a small bluetooth speaker?
And I have tried playing with the Dolby settings. They make no difference with the distortion.
After some perfunctory tests I have noted that Bluetooth audio seems to introduce a significant amount of extra noise at high volumes. Aside from the additional background noise I have not noticed distortions with Bluetooth yet. I have only checked this on B29.
PiArc said:
After some perfunctory tests I have noted that Bluetooth audio seems to introduce a significant amount of extra noise at high volumes. Aside from the additional background noise I have not noticed distortions with Bluetooth yet. I have only checked this on B29.
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Just something to try...I have a BT device hooked to my AVR, and when I stream through that, if I have the volume on my phone up it sounds horrible. If I stream through it with the volume up just 1 click of the volume button, it sounds good. I increase volume at the AVR instead of the phone.
Through Bluetooth hands free working flawlessly to my.(A2017G version)
I'm having 2 LG 1100/2 Sony SBH 80 and 2 SBH 20.
Haven't try it with external speakers(since I don't own any kind) and on my car I'm using the handsfree and not connected to the car audio system.
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I have a A2017G on B05 and a somewhat cheap aukey BT headset: it seems to sound fine for me, no crackling or hissing. Have you tried it on different devices to compare?
A2017U on B29, using Jaybirds Bluebuds X, the sound its great, no distortion or cracking.
I use the Bluetooth on my car stereo too and the sound is excellent. No dolby, but the equalizer works fine.
Did you verify that all your bluetooth devices supports aptx? if not then you will lose sound quality :S
idk, i dont like bluetooth audio streaming... even with aptx. Its not bad but if you want to steam flac music it will still limit the quality. Somehow if i stream the music via bluetooths aptx it sound flat not dynmic and
voluminous.
I haven't tried it with the volume just below full. I'll give it a shot in the morning on my commute.
Other devices (S5 and 6P) sound just fine when paired to my headed unit, so it's likely something with my Axon 7.
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Quick test with the volume just under full seemed better. I'll know more after a drive tomorrow. Thanks everyone.
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A2017U on B29, using Jaybirds Bluebuds X, the sound its great, no distortion or cracking.
I use the Bluetooth on my car stereo too and the sound is excellent. No dolby, but the equalizer works fine.
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EQ on on your car stereo or phone? I don't know of an EQ on the phone (maybe I've overlooked something).
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EQ on on your car stereo or phone? I don't know of an EQ on the phone (maybe I've overlooked something).
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On the phone. I meant to say that it's not using the HiFi audio, but the Dolby eq it's fine on Bluetooth. Sorry for the confusion.
I think it sounds about 95% better just one click below full volume. I never would have thought that digital Bluetooth volume would have been the problem, having always set it to 100% with every other device. Thankfully, Tasker makes for a quick fix.
Thanks for the tips and feedback, everyone.
Just wondering if anyone else has this problem. My g6 connects to my car everytime but the volume is much lower than when I have the radio on sirrius or even fm stations. The bluetooth volume on the phone is all the way maxed and I can actually max the radio volume without it being that loud. When on FM radio, I won't get even close to maxing the volume before it's too loud. Is there an equalizer or some audio setting for output? BTW, it's actually the same when I plug the headphone jack into the car with a 3.5mm cable. Thanks for any ideas and advice.
Nobody else has noticed? Could it just be my car's Bluetooth?
I use mine on my car daily with no issue.
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Just wondering if anyone else has this problem. My g6 connects to my car everytime but the volume is much lower than when I have the radio on sirrius or even fm stations. The bluetooth volume on the phone is all the way maxed and I can actually max the radio volume without it being that loud. When on FM radio, I won't get even close to maxing the volume before it's too loud. Is there an equalizer or some audio setting for output? BTW, it's actually the same when I plug the headphone jack into the car with a 3.5mm cable. Thanks for any ideas and advice.
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I use an app called RE EQ from that play store. It works with music player and pandora, Use the slider on the left to bump up the output. It is a great sounding EQ!