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Completely f'd phone, how can I completely reformat and start over

I started today trying to format my 2.1 rooted over to 2.2 and at some point in time have just trashed my phone. Then completely wiped/factory reset my phone. So I am sitting here and every 5 minutes or so the phone will just pop up the HTC quietly brilliant screen and it is insanely slow and barely loads anything. What can I do to just start over fresh?
It also tells me I have no service and I cant make a call to any # at all or even attempt to. So something is obviously up with the radio.

so you are rooted, right? You can get into recovery? Did you make a nandroid?

qmartman711 said:
so you are rooted, right? You can get into recovery? Did you make a nandroid?
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My guess the answer would be "no."
Download one of the stable ROMs...Virtuous or Skyraider will work...reboot into recovery...wipe and reset everything, including the Dalvik cache and battery stats, then load the ROM.
When you get that ROM set up the way you like, boot into recovery and DO A FRIGGIN' NANDROID BACKUP.
The next time you want to **** with your phone, REBOOT INTO RECOVERY AND DO A FRIGGIN' NANDROID BACKUP FIRST!
So long as you can reboot into recovery, a Nandroid backup will take your phone back to the state it was when you did that backup.

Haha, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt
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He has a thread in the QA section which I told him to run the 2.2 ruu. He then did ran into this issue and I've asked him a few questions which he has yet to answer ...
I have a feeling when he was rooted on 2.1 he made some changes to the phone that a simple RUU would not fix as I bet it expected everything else to be normal.

Why are my Clockworkmod backups unusable?

So, I just rooted my Mytouch 4G a few days ago using the 'Ultimate' guide on this forum. I had root access and I disabled and deleted some stock apps from my phone. I was using LauncherPro instead of the HTC Sense launcher. I made a backup in Clockworkmod recovery immediately after installing Clockworkmod, before I'd made any major changes.
So, I spent the past few days removing and tweaking things. I had my phone working extremely well. But then I realized that I actually wanted an .apk file (the stock visual voicemail app) that I'd already deleted from the phone. It should be in my original backup file, right? So I figured that I'd make a new backup, restore my old backup containing the .apk file, copy the .apk file off of the phone, then restore my recent backup. Well...this didn't work.
When I restored either the original backup or the more recent backup, the phone would boot up and I'd get a message that the System UIDs are inconsistent. The phone would let me make phone calls, but 95% of my apps were missing from the loader. Most of the icons on my home screens were grayed out and would tell me the applications were missing when I tried to click on them.
I tried Fix Permissions in Clockworkmod recovery, but it didn't help. My Android Market app and all of my file manager apps didn't work, so I couldn't reinstall any apps. When I'd wipe all the data on my phone, but only restore the System backup, the Android Market would work and the phone basically returns to stock. But as soon as I restore my Data backup, everything breaks.
At this point, I've already wiped the phone and started over from scratch, but I'm afraid to rely on Clockworkmod/Rom Manager for backups again. Any ideas what went wrong?

did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.

this happens when your backups/card gets corrupted... it could of been a number of things... changing the name of something to how much you scan the card... hard to say exactly what caused it... If your really worried about it I would suggest making a backup of your backup on your computer just to be safe...

Hmm. Mine does.
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did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.

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did you flash a different kernel? this may be the issue, as I know that for other devices CWM does not restore the kernel.
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This is for phones that dont support Nand like the vibrant. HTC phones is a full backup including kernel.

sundayhustler said:
I did make a backup of my backup, but it's not like these backups sat on the memory card for months before they got used. I ran the restore within minutes of when I made the last backup. Besides, aren't the backups hashed with md5 and then retested before restoring? So, if the files did get corrupted, I would think Clockworkmod would have notified me, no?
I just wish that after making a backup, there was some way to test it out without taking the chance of trashing my phone.
Regarding using a different kernel, I did not. I did not flash any experimental/downloaded images, these were simple backups and restores of my existing phone data.
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Your right, CWM does do a md5 check when restoring. I'm sorry, I don't know what could be wrong. I currently have like 5 backups of 4 ROMS and have to restored to just to play around. Did you do apps2sd? This can cause major issues when switching ROM's.

I am also having a problem restoring to my stock rom. how big does my backup file have to be?

I have had this problem before. I think in my case my issue was caused by and incompatible version of CWM. I found that to be safe, I usually make two back ups, one with recovery in 2.5.12 and one with 3.0.0.6.

It was the file. It was only 60mb, apparently I ran out of memory thanks though my other backups work fine and I found the stock rom on a thread.
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oh haha i was about to post.

[Q] One Click vs Unlocked Bootloader

Simple question, one i didn't find a quick simple answer too.
I know the main differences between one-click root and unlocking the bootloader, and the biggest for me was the warranty. I used one-click root so just in case, I could revert back. Now my warranty is just about up, and I figure why not? My biggest question is, will it provide any benefits?
For some reason I have never been able to install themes (either update.zip files or through metamorph), I just go into an infinite boot loop. I was hoping this was the only issue. But I don't know enough to know the answer

Benefits are safer radio flashing, and if you ever **** the phone up so bad you can't boot into anything other than the bootloader, you can fastboot flash everything required to get going again.

Rusty! said:
Benefits are safer radio flashing, and if you ever **** the phone up so bad you can't boot into anything other than the bootloader, you can fastboot flash everything required to get going again.
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One more little question; Should i reflash CM7 (im running the nightlies currently) when its done? I read that it will wipe all data (already got everything backed up ready to go) but I was just wondering if I would need to reflash anything right now, like CM7 or the recovery?

Take NANDroid, unlock, restore NANDroid, continue as if nothing happened.

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Take NANDroid, unlock, restore NANDroid, continue as if nothing happened.
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Tons of awesomesauce I guess thats what I will go ahead and do! Thank you so very much for the quick help!
EDIT: Done, restoring the NANDroid backup now I hesitated a little bit when hitting that button though, a year of me holding back doing it because of the warranty was still making my trigger finger nervous
... And back in my rom, everything normal once again And again thanks for the quick help.

Well not so normal; I have lost my setup accounts, and everytime I try restoring a NANDroid the accounts are still gone, and there isn't an option to add in a google account and none of the google apps work. No force closes just closes the second you try to open it.
I have tried reflashing both the rom and gapps, still no good.
Am i going to need to wipe?

Certainly shouldn't do, I unlocked my bootloader in the same way and everything continued as normal.
Bit odd that you can't add your account back though, the option should be there under accounts & sync.
It sounds like what happens when you try and use CM without adding GApps

That's what I thought too. So I tried flashing gapps, nothing.
Went ahead and did a full wipe. Quite amazed so far what all android is restoring for me. Nearly all back
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[Q] Not able to restore new backups?

Hey guys so I have a weird problem.
I can't restore my new backups.
That means all backups I did 2 weeks ago are restorable but now, when I do a backup of my current cyanogenmod rom and try to restore it, I get stuck at the HTC boot screen.
I heard it's because I used rom manager and sometimes rom manager destroys the PC10IMG, is that true??

Same thing happened to me. I had to do everything all over again. It will be nice if there is some more information about the problem. Thank you.

whitis said:
Hey guys so I have a weird problem.
I can't restore my new backups.
That means all backups I did 2 weeks ago are restorable but now, when I do a backup of my current cyanogenmod rom and try to restore it, I get stuck at the HTC boot screen.
I heard it's because I used rom manager and sometimes rom manager destroys the PC10IMG, is that true??
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don't trust rom manager to perform recovery operations through its gui with any consistency.
if you're going to perform a recovery operation, just do it through CWM and save the hassle.

Well I did it all /backups & recovery/ through CWM and just hang on the welcome screen. Not that it was important because I only wanted to back up something I forgot after intending of installing a new rom, but still the question remains and it will be helpful for future time

I've found that Nandroid backups are unreliable if I'm at all low on free space on the SD Card. Even if there are no errors during the backup. I make sure I've got at least room for two whole backups now. Seems to solve the problem.

Corrupt Nandroid Backup

I ran a custom ROM today (10-13-2011) and wasn't completely satisfied, so I tried to flash back to my last working nandroid backup that I had created earlier this morning. Unfortunately, it got stuck while loading one particular file. After several battery pulls and several attempts at installation I ended up flashing a nandroid I had created 4 days ago (10-08-2011). This flash was successful which indicates to me that clockworkmod rom manager must have created a corrupt nandroid when I made one this morning. This is a bit disturbing to me bc I have OCD and now I'll be wondering if the nandroid backups I make from here on out are jacked up. Do you guys know why this may have happened? Or do you know a way to tell whether or not a nandroid is corrupt (before trying to flash it)? Should I be concerned with any of this at all?
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Don't know why this happens, but it has happened a few times to me
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It doesn't happen to you every time does it?

How long was it stick on a certain file? Mine sometimes seems to get hung up, but will continue after a minute or two...

It was hung up on that one file for like 5-10 minutes. When I flashed the older backup I didn't have that issue though.
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Update: About a week ago I had this same issue again. I made another nandroid backup, tried to flash it, and discovered it was corrupted and had to (yet again) flash back to that backup I made on 10-08-2011. Today (10-31-2011) I tried to make a backup and it actually successfully flashed after install. I was happy to see that happen....however I'm still disturbed by the inconsistancy I'm now experiencing with Clockwork Mod ROM Manager. Do you guys have any explaination for why I may be having these inconsistent issues?
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I'm just like you with the OCD about this...but I've luckily never had it happen to me.
I'm probably wrong on this, but it seems to me that these issues mostly started sprouting up on the 5.0.2.0(that's right, isn't it?) build.
What I've always done since hearing about this the first time is create a backup...and then restore the backup without even leaving cwm.
That way if MD5's don't match...(hopefully just that) I know it right away.
And if it fails on a single file...I can hope that it isn't a crucial file and my phone will still boot.
It gives me a little blanket of trust in my nandroid, at least.

I too must report many recent problems with nandroid backups (using CWM 5.0.2).
I take a full backup every week or so, as well as before doing something like changing a ROM. A couple of the backups are stored on my SD card, but the rest I push up to my NAS via FTP (to keep a longer history).
Yesterday I went to go back to a point in time only to find out that the backup didn't work (failed MD5 checksum). I managed to get a recent backup restored, but it had something broken in it, so I opted for a fully working backup. I ended up going through ALL of the nandroid backups that I've taken since getting my phone, and none of them work anymore!!! (even the broken one that did manage to restore once yesterday).
This is super weird, as I know that some of these backups were good as I have already restored them successfully!
I can't help but wonder if my file transfer method is playing a role here. First I was using FTP over WiFi, but then I switched to USB cable to PC as Flash drive -> NAS via wired Ethernet.
Whatever is going on here... it is really a serious problem. If you can't count on a full system backup like this, then there is really no point to it.
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