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Nexus One resolution? Can it be increased now with 2.2?

http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2.html
I probably have no idea what I'm talking about/old news, but...
I notice toward the bottom of the screen under "Emulation skins" that it supports up to 854x480 resolution. I assume that is for Motorola Droid development.
My question is - Can these "skins" be applied to permanently change the N1 resolution (800x480) to the slightly higher res of the droid? I believe the physical sizes of the screen are the same. Are screens inherently at their max resolution and you can't exceed that under any circumstances?
Probably a dumb question but thanks anyway.

tomedic said:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2.html
I probably have no idea what I'm talking about/old news, but...
I notice toward the bottom of the screen under "Emulation skins" that it supports up to 854x480 resolution. I assume that is for Motorola Droid development.
My question is - Can these "skins" be applied to permanently change the N1 resolution (800x480) to the slightly higher res of the droid? I believe the physical sizes of the screen are the same. Are screens inherently at their max resolution and you can't exceed that under any circumstances?
Probably a dumb question but thanks anyway.
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Resolution is not a function of screen size but of pixels per inch supported by the device hardware. No software will make an N1 display better resolution than it was designed to physically.

Not to be mean, but you're right, it is a dumb question.
The resolution of the physical screen cannot be changed. Look at the screen under a magnifying glass. Each individual pixel there is a physical object.
"Emulation skins" might be referring to the SDK emulator so you can test your applications on your development computer. You can test that higher res then without even owning a Droid.

can we swap retina display in there

I'm going to go against what everyone else said so far and tell you ... PROBABLY. But not how you are thinking.
I say probably as in using a lower setting. But that wouldn't make much sense and would probably only ever be used for troubleshooting and testing, so essentially no... but you probably really can... but wouldn't want to.
Like others have said, it's a hardware limitation and the software is going to use the highest res the hardware can support, right out of the box.

e4604 said:
can we swap retina display in there
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you don't want the retina display, especially when its being reported as highly defective in the iphone 4s that have been arriving lately... color spots everywhere.. check engadget

supernine said:
you don't want the retina display, especially when its being reported as highly defective in the iphone 4s that have been arriving lately... color spots everywhere.
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Yep, sour apple's blew it again and has it's hands full

galaxys said:
Yep, sour apple's blew it again and has it's hands full
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LOL, remember the slight 3G drop on SOME Nexus Ones when you gripped the phone in an unnatural way? Remember how iPhanboys were hooting hollering and laughing their asses off at us...talk about poetically justified ironic hilarity.
Have you seen the videos of the iPhone 4 3G loss?
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band

Slightly unrelated question. I read that the Droid's display has 16 million colours and the EVO can only display 65k colours. Does that mean the Nexus One can only do 65k colours as well?

AbsoluteDesignz said:
LOL, remember the slight 3G drop on SOME Nexus Ones when you gripped the phone in an unnatural way? Remember how iPhanboys were hooting hollering and laughing their asses off at us...talk about poetically justified ironic hilarity.
Have you seen the videos of the iPhone 4 3G loss?
http://gizmodo.com/5571171/iphone-4-loses-reception-when-you-hold-it-by-the-antenna-band
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Oh god this makes me laugh. So many people swear that sinner don't lose signal when covering the antenna with your hand, and bashed the nexus for its bottom antenna. Now look at the new iPhone it has the same issue

To be fair - and much as I dislike Apple - for ME (on T-Mobile UK) the Nexus has the worst signal strength and ability to maintain a solid data connection of all my recent devices (3Gs/Hero/Desire/HD2): I get frequent data connection drops, failed SMS sends multiple times a day and I regularly have to go in and out of aircraft mode to get my data working properly again or to enable me to send a text that keeps failing. This is my second device. Overall I still love the look and feel of it over iPhone (3Gs at least).
As for resolution...Nexus has fewer pixels than Droid therefore cannot have the same resolution via any hack.

This is really the screen that has everyone so impressed?

I’m not trying to upset anyone here but I have to be honest about my first thoughts on the Galaxy screen. Tonight I stopped by a T-Mobile store and with my iPhone 4G and HTC Evo, I tried out the T-Mobile Vibrant. I had all 3 phones on, side by side and I really was not too impressed with the SGS screen due mostly to that awful screen door matrix.
When I held the SGS about 6 inches away from my eyes, I could clearly see the pixel grid (or whatever it’s called) and was just put off by it. I can honestly say that I feel the best looking screen is the iPhone’s without a doubt and the Evo comes in 2nd. The iPhone’s small screen is a pretty big problem for me but now I’m just not sure which device to stick with.
Am I really the only one who can see the matrix and is bothered by this??? I really wanted to just fall hard for this phone on first contact and I could have. It just drives me crazy that all 3 phones have really nice features and I’d gladly pay double if not triple to have the best of all 3 devices in one device………

You're right, the pixels do annoy me a little, only coz I'm a perfectionist...
The colours are beautiful though; and in normal use I never notice the pixels...

ZacJ said:
You're right, the pixels do annoy me a little, only coz I'm a perfectionist...
The colours are beautiful though; and in normal use I never notice the pixels...
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So I'm assuming you just got used to after a while? I was looking at the notification bar and the battery and other icons seemed to look kind of low res to me. I guess this is what people are talking about when they say it has larger pixels.

AshMa said:
Am I really the only one who can see the matrix and is bothered by this???
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Not trying to be annoying, but you only see the pixels, because steve told you so.
I saw the pixels too, because steve told me to look at them, would have never looked if iphone 4's dpi wasn't so hyped.
I think the screen is very much amazing with full brightness, hope you checked that the one in the store was set to 100% brightness too and not just focus on the pixels.
Next time try to do something real with the phone, like watch youtube HD and then do the comparison to iPhone and you will be all happy again.
Good luck

buddy01 said:
Not trying to be annoying, but you only see the pixels, because steve told you so.
I saw the pixels too, because steve told me to look at them, would have never looked if iphone 4's dpi wasn't so hyped.
I think the screen is very much amazing with full brightness, hope you checked that the one in the store was set to 100% brightness too and not just focus on the pixels.
Next time try to do something real with the phone, like watch youtube HD and then do the comparison to iPhone and you will be all happy again.
Good luck
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I see what you're saying but I guess I'm not really talking about the pixels but rather the type of screen used that gives that screen door look. Remember, I stated that I still have no issues with the Evo screen which I think looks much better in person than it does in photos online compared to the SGS screen.

On the other hand, if you habitually hold your phone at 6" from your face, you should probably consult an optometrist
In practice, the pixels are indistinguishable from those of the EVO, or of the iPhone 3Gs. But, the overall experience is noticeably richer with the Super AMOLED, IMO.
The screen is the biggest thing this phone has going for it, and why I've decided to stick with it.

I don't think you were seeing the sub pixel's pentile pattern. Sub pixels on any device are way too small to see; a camera macro is needed to see them, and you need to press your lense against the screen itself.

The thing is, it had the same leaf and water live wallpaper that my Evo has and yet I could see that grid on it and not the Evo. 6 inches btw' was just to get closer because I thought I started to notice something.

I own the SGS and ive used a Iphone4 a few times, even though the res did look a little sharper, side by side you would have to be really picky to care, the colour of the SGS is much more noticable than the slight res difference.
The iphone4 just looked bland to me.
I have a iphone 3g for work as well, not as fast as the 3gs, but after owning the SGS for nearly 2 weeks i hate having to use the iphone.

I'm used to the pentile matrix since it was also on my Nexus One.
It definitely can give a rough looking edge on some elements but not enough to make me consider ditching the phone even for a moment.
I certainly cannot see the pentile matrix in photos and videos nor in games.
If pentile goes with denser pixels (say 1280x720) I don't think you'd notice it at all on a 4" screen, but it brings the benefits of increased battery life (though this may be marginal?)
Anyway, it can be seen but it really doesn't bother me personally.

miker71 said:
I'm used to the pentile matrix since it was also on my Nexus One.
It definitely can give a rough looking edge on some elements but not enough to make me consider ditching the phone even for a moment.
I certainly cannot see the pentile matrix in photos and videos nor in games.
If pentile goes with denser pixels (say 1280x720) I don't think you'd notice it at all on a 4" screen, but it brings the benefits of increased battery life (though this may be marginal?)
Anyway, it can be seen but it really doesn't bother me personally.
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So you're saying that after sometime, one could get used to the screen and no longer notice the matrix? Unless of course Morpheus comes knocking to wake us up.

Now everyone see the pixel.. because Steve said to watch it!

The screen is probably a net downside to the phone for me - high contrast ratio is great, but I'd sooner give that up than compromise on true resolution and sharpness from the PenTile matrix. It seems I'm in a minority with that opinion!
Unfortunately there's no real choice unless I want to start compromising on the rest of the hardware instead. The iPhone does send to set trends, for better or worse, and I do hope the iPhone 4 starts one for higher DPI phones. Going from QVGA to VGA was immediately a massive improvement.

A little real life perspective here would be nice. 4" screen with 480x800 pixel resolution is one of the highest out there already.

I tend to use my phone from about 18" away, so I care what the screen looks like, not the individual pixels. Plus my Sammy can update those pixels 3x faster than the Evo.

TravUK said:
I tend to use my phone from about 18" away, so I care what the screen looks like, not the individual pixels. Plus my Sammy can update those pixels 3x faster than the Evo.
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Exactly. The monstrous hardware behind the SGS is the real deal here. Even if this "pixelated screen" is a big deal for some people (definitely not my case...), the fluidity, contrast ratio, brightness and colors make more then up for it.

Six inches from your face??! Dude i cant even focus that close. The screen is awesome end of discussion.
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When putting it very close to my face, yes, i can see the PenTile matrix.
But that's complete nonsense- it's visible only if you search for it and the screen is more than sharp enough for reading even small sized text in the browser.
On the other hand, i enjoy the true blacks and amazing colors the screen gives.
The iPhone 4 just can't compare, and while watching videos/playing games/taking or viewing pictures etc. that is a much more important factor.
I won't ever give away better color for some more PPI.

I really like hi-res panels (so much that I bought in 2003 a dell laptop with a 15.4 1920x1200 screen!), but I can assure you that the i9000 res will not be a problem. Of course I would have loved a higher RES - (and 2ghz and and and) but I think that the res is fine for reasonable distance viewing.
I think the real benefit of the screen are the colors, the contrast and the size. After some point the resolution is already good enough that you start focusing on other parameters as well.

dakine said:
Six inches from your face??! Dude i cant even focus that close. The screen is awesome end of discussion.
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this. and the far superior cpu/gpu/contrast/color power
go get steve out of your head

Screen size?

Hi.
I just want to know how people feel about screen size.
I know that they say ''the bigger the better'' but hey, we are still talking about a phone here.
So i say that the 4 inch X10 display is great and i think is the maximum i would like on my phone.
I was reading the other thread about the X10 and the Streak and saw this review with a video of the Streak (http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/06/dell-streak-review/ )
At the end of the video they show us how it fits your pants and how you look when talking on the phone.
I personaly think it is a bit odd.
So i would like to see how everybody feels about the screen size, aspect ratio and if you would like to see bigger displays on a phone.

I think 3.7 to 4.0" is ideal, any smaller, and my fingers can't press the right buttons lol.

To me the aspect ratio is more important, the 4" 16:9 display on the X10 is optimal imo.

4" 16:9 screen and some added borders by the phone itself is the limit for a phone in my opinion. Anything bigger I would see as a tablet computer.
Some say the X10 are too big. I'd say those saying that, are the small people with cute little hands.
I'm a rather big dude myself and I find the X10 fit perfectly into my hand and I can operate the phone onehanded, but I prefer one hand holding, the other pointing.

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4" 16:9 screen and some added borders by the phone itself is the limit for a phone in my opinion. Anything bigger I would see as a tablet computer.
Some say the X10 are too big. I'd say those saying that, are the small people with cute little hands.
I'm a rather big dude myself and I find the X10 fit perfectly into my hand and I can operate the phone onehanded, but I prefer one hand holding, the other pointing.
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I'm rather average guy, so average that they could probably use my hands to design stuff for "average-sized hands" and I find the the X10 to be perfect. No one I've encountered has any problems using the phone, except maybe dad but he's an old car mechanic and couldn't use a touchscreen if his life depended on it.

It's just right for me, using my Garmin Nuvi with a 5" screen for comparison, 4" is perfect. Phones are supposed to be "mobile" these days, anything bigger would be borderline pocket PC and just too much bulk in the pocket to be called a mobile.

for me it can be bigger a bit
4.5' should be the best for me
most important is the resolution need increase
previously there's a thread talking about resolution is good enough
but it's obviously losing when i compare to my x1

gaolinde said:
for me it can be bigger a bit
4.5' should be the best for me
most important is the resolution need increase
previously there's a thread talking about resolution is good enough
but it's obviously losing when i compare to my x1
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The X10 has a higher resolution than the X1 and has even slightly higher than most other phones.

ddewbofh said:
The X10 has a higher resolution than the X1 and has even slightly higher than most other phones.
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yes but as the screen on the x1 is so much smaller (3in), the pixel size is also reduced and as such it looks sharper. so if you cut off an inch of the x10s display, the x1 would have a higher res.
i.e. hd films on the x1 looked amazing. just small
same difference between a 1920x1080 17" laptop screen and 1920x1200 24" desktop screen. the 24" is higher res, but the laptop will look sharper.

james_2k said:
yes but as the screen on the x1 is so much smaller (3in), the pixel size is also reduced and as such it looks sharper. so if you cut off an inch of the x10s display, the x1 would have a higher res.
i.e. hd films on the x1 looked amazing. just small
same difference between a 1920x1080 17" laptop screen and 1920x1200 24" desktop screen. the 24" is higher res, but the laptop will look sharper.
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So what you really meant was that the X1 has a higher DPI. Yeah, that is a good point, but on the other hand the X10 display does more colours and the added size helps when reading text because you don't have to zoom in as much as with a smaller display to see it clearly. So there are good points and bad points to each, I prefer a bigger screen but YMMV.

ddewbofh said:
So what you really meant was that the X1 has a higher DPI. Yeah, that is a good point, but on the other hand the X10 display does more colours and the added size helps when reading text because you don't have to zoom in as much as with a smaller display to see it clearly. So there are good points and bad points to each, I prefer a bigger screen but YMMV.
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no i didnt mean dpi as it wasnt me who said the x1 had higher res in the first place (that was gaolinde), i just jumped in
but i also agree, i much prefer the x10s screen

james_2k said:
no i didnt mean dpi as it wasnt me who said the x1 had higher res in the first place (that was gaolinde), i just jumped in
but i also agree, i much prefer the x10s screen
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Heh, must've misread somewhere along the cross-fire. I'm blaming the 40C heat here.

haha ok it was me who said resolution.
anyway my point is in the "previous post" i mentioned many guys said very firmly that the DPI of X10 is good enough, any higher DPI won't make it different, and in the same thread people point out than x1 got the same DPI as iphone4.
but the fact is when you comparing it side by side you'll spot the different even your eye is 30cm away from the device.

gaolinde said:
haha ok it was me who said resolution.
anyway my point is in the "previous post" i mentioned many guys said very firmly that the DPI of X10 is good enough, any higher DPI won't make it different, and in the same thread people point out than x1 got the same DPI as iphone4.
but the fact is when you comparing it side by side you'll spot the different even your eye is 30cm away from the device.
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I'd say that's a valid point, "good enough" is just that. It's a phone ffs, it's not like you're spend spend hours staring at the screen or reading any longer books on it anyway. I have to look at the screen from about two or centimeters away to see any individual pixels or even notice any pixeling for that matter. For it's purpose it's more than good enough.
If I want to watch movies comfortably the screen has to be much, much bigger anyway and if you want to read a lot then you should get an e-ink display. For casual webbrowsing, making calls and listening to music this display is just fine.

yap it's good enough but can be better.
though it's not gonna happen in x10 hopefully for next SE flagship.
i am a SE fanboy with high expectations
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4" is ok.
4.3" or 4.5" would be better.
Bigger, no way.

All things considered I think 4 is great. 4.3 or 4.5 would be nicer but higher battery drain.
I guess a 4.5 AMOLED would still be better on the battery than a 4.0 LCD.

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I think the crispness of the text is because of the slcd . I had a galaxy s before I bought my nexus s .. The first difference i noticed was indeed the crispness of the text, on s amoled the text always looked a bit fuzzy even with sharpnes fixes... I do think the colorurs on the s amoled screen were "richer" than on the slcd screen.

If there's anything that bothers me about my i9020, it's that I can barely read the fuzzy, vague text on the screen. I can BARELY make it out half the time.
Very jealous of you guys.
EDIT: Im quite surprised no-one realised I was joking. I think my phone's screen looks amazing.

I don't know guys. I can read all the text on my i9020 just fine. I read all my kindle books on the smallest text settings and have no issues. This apps text looks great and so is web browsing.
This phone never had the yellow washed out color that alot of people complained about either.
The few times I've seen the two phones side by side the slcd screen looked terribly washed out compared to the super amoled.
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I have no problem reading the smallest of text on my SAMOLED Nexus S either and the pentile layout has never bothered me. In fact, side by side with a SLCD Nexus S the only way I can tell one from the other is by the black levels.
They are both very good displays.
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tatwamasi said:
If there's anything that bothers me about my i9020, it's that I can barely read the fuzzy, vague text on the screen. I can BARELY make it out half the time.
Very jealous of you guys.
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Either your phone needs to be repaired or you may need to get your eyes checked.
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Same here. I don't notice any fuzzy texts on the Nexus S or even the Vibrant when I had it (people were saying the same thing for the Vibrant too). Kind of curious what the fuzzy texts looks like. Any possible screenshots?

princeasi said:
Either your phone needs to be repaired or you may need to get your eyes checked.
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this.
because its not that bad to the point its unreadable.

what some of you call "fuzzy" is the pentile pixel layout of the screen... (half the blue and red pixels compared to a conventional lcd screen)
see here: ars article
I personally think it's crap and can see it very clearly, it's about the only thing I don't like about my nexus one.

isn't there also a battery life issue??
i have a i9023 and my boss has a i9020, and my phone last much longer!

To be fair, certain fonts rendered in a smaller size dont look so great on SAMOLED pentile matrix screen. Like the font that comes with the matted blues theme.

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Maybe it depends on what people like. Colours on the SAMOLED do look a bit oversaturated and that pleases most people. The black is definitely deeper as well.
However, I maintain that the SLCD is a lot easier on the eyes if you do a lot of reading.
I've taken a few photos of the two phones. Both in 100% brightness. There are some weird colour artefacts which I haven't edited out. The SAMOLED seems to get a green streak whereas SLCD gets a bit of magenta. In actual usage of course, they both look white (with the SLCD being a little bit on the blue side)
BTW, the pictures where taken at exactly the same magnification. Only very minor adjustments were made to bring the phones into focus due to the difference in thickness (yes, half a millimetre does make a difference in macro photography!!).
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man thats too close. is that how you read a text ? lol god help you " kidding "
i do see your point. and yes the Super amoled screen is not as clear in text as LCD. this was known for while. the advantage of the SA is deeper colors while better text reading and sharpness on SLCD.
i think they both look great. just matters of what you like most.

eiabea said:
isn't there also a battery life issue??
i have a i9023 and my boss has a i9020, and my phone last much longer!
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If i am not mistaken, engadget had a review regarding the battery life between the amoled desire vs slcd desire. amoled version lasted like 30-45 mins longer playing same video in loop.

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I didn't know it was the i9023 and just by looking at it they're almost identical, however, the i9023 is a bit thicker and 10 grams heavier.
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When you say a bit thicker... Is there any official specs about I9023? Cause I have been searching by Google about that thickness (already before I saw this thread), but I have found nothing. I am getting my I9023 this week and have been just wondering, cause it has "just" lcd screen, it must be a little thicker...

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Thanks, that cleared. Sure looks a bit more "masculine", than I9020. Will see, when I get it to my hands...

no offense guys, the SCLCD of i9023 is so amazing. I did not realize the big difference until going out to direct sunlight.
Compare to my previous HTC desire HD which is totally hopeless under direct sunlight this is so much better, viewing angles is also a plus point for this. About the SAMOLED, I tried couple times on my friend's galaxy S, still prefer my current SCLCD

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Maybe it depends on what people like. Colours on the SAMOLED do look a bit oversaturated and that pleases most people. The black is definitely deeper as well.
However, I maintain that the SLCD is a lot easier on the eyes if you do a lot of reading.
I've taken a few photos of the two phones. Both in 100% brightness. There are some weird colour artefacts which I haven't edited out. The SAMOLED seems to get a green streak whereas SLCD gets a bit of magenta. In actual usage of course, they both look white (with the SLCD being a little bit on the blue side)
BTW, the pictures where taken at exactly the same magnification. Only very minor adjustments were made to bring the phones into focus due to the difference in thickness (yes, half a millimetre does make a difference in macro photography!!).
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Those pictures are so much alike besides the color is kinda silly. The pixels look exactly the same.
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Opinion about SAMOLED+ from people that hate Pentile

I'd like to get opinions about the SAMOLED+ screen on the Samsung Galaxy S2 from people that hate Pentile screens (like me ).
Do you think SGS2 is a lot sharper than SAMOLED Pentile screens? Does the text looks as good as in a regular LCD or SLCD screens?
It's important that the opinion comes from people that really dislike or hate pentile screens because it seems that not everybody notice the effect caused by these.

Well, thats one to get a hundred percent viewpoint.
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stoney73 said:
Well, thats one to get a hundred percent viewpoint.
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I don't get you.
The thing is that SGS2 doesn't have pentile but given that is the same resolution on a bigger screen and I'm not even sure if the pixel matrix is identical to a LCD I think that maybe is not that better at the end?
I'm just trying to decide if I buy the phone or if I'm better keeping a Nexus S (with a pentile display I don't really like...) until Samsung deliver the higher resolution SAMOLED+

Enjoy...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/19/galaxy-s-ii-and-galaxy-s-screens-compared-at-the-subpixel-level/

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Enjoy...
engadget.com/2011/05/19/galaxy-s-ii-and-galaxy-s-screens-compared-at-the-subpixel-level/
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Thanks for the link! But I already know the technical differences...
I'm looking opinion from people that disliked the Galaxy S and Nexus S pentile screen specifically (or even Atrix screen for what it's worth)

Alien987 said:
Thanks for the link! But I already know the technical differences...
I'm looking opinion from people that disliked the Galaxy S and Nexus S pentile screen specifically (or even Atrix screen for what it's worth)
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Let's reverse the question. Does anybody like the Pentile display? From everything I've read its really just a cost saver for the manufacturer. So I'm guessing the answer would be no. At least not given any another option.

The screen looks exactly as LCD ..

After going from a Pentile display to a SLCD (N1 to DHD), I was shocked at how a screen with the same effective resolution (WVGA) could look so much sharper even after the size being increased by 0.6 inches. I began to understand why Pentile was getting so much bad press in tech circles and reviews. At the time I associated Pentile with AMOLED, as the only AMOLED based phones (N1, Desire, SGS) used a Pentile matrix and due to this my opinion on AMOLED was that despite the brilliant contrast, it was inferior to LCD.
It's safe to say that the SAMOLED+ reversed my previous opinion by ridding itself of the Pentile matrix. It's almost as if it is an entirely new screen tech. There's not much else to say other than once you see it, you will struggle to believe you could ever go back to a LCD/IPS or plain old AMOLED. The clarity and colour produced by this screen is second to none, regardless of PPI.
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I voted yes!
I liked the Screen very much.. but my eyes hurt after a while reading.
Think mostly because of the ghosting / washed effect from scrolling text.

i use a phone with pentile right now. i played with the samsung Infuse which has no more pentile, but is 4.5 inch. and honestly the increased pixels are wlecomed, but the larger size kinda eliminated the advantage over pentile. it just didnt look as good as i thought it would be. but it still looked ok of course, just not as sharp as i had hoped. definitely not as sharp as the atric or iphone 4. but the color contrast makes up for it a bit.

Comparing the SII and S is like night and day. Whenever I go back to use my S I can't believe how bad it is. You won't be disappointed with the SII trust me.

RogerPodacter said:
i use a phone with pentile right now. i played with the samsung Infuse which has no more pentile, but is 4.5 inch. and honestly the increased pixels are wlecomed, but the larger size kinda eliminated the advantage over pentile. it just didnt look as good as i thought it would be. but it still looked ok of course, just not as sharp as i had hoped. definitely not as sharp as the atric or iphone 4. but the color contrast makes up for it a bit.
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I agree, I was glad when I got my desire it turned out to be a slcd one because the ones I had seen in the shop (as well as the sgs1) were all amoleds and I wasn't to impressed with them, the fonts looked very ugly and jagged, a lot worse compared to my old lg arena; For my the DPI should have been a lot higher for better fonts but they are okay. I had to try a lot of browser though before I found which renders small text the best (xscope) so you can make a bit of use of the large screen

Thanks everybody for your input!
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i use a phone with pentile right now. i played with the samsung Infuse which has no more pentile, but is 4.5 inch. and honestly the increased pixels are wlecomed, but the larger size kinda eliminated the advantage over pentile. it just didnt look as good as i thought it would be. but it still looked ok of course, just not as sharp as i had hoped. definitely not as sharp as the atric or iphone 4. but the color contrast makes up for it a bit.
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This is what I fear I love iPhone 4 display text crispness, I didn't like Atrix that much because everything looked like it had a weird texture.
godutch said:
I agree, I was glad when I got my desire it turned out to be a slcd one because the ones I had seen in the shop (as well as the sgs1) were all amoleds and I wasn't to impressed with them, the fonts looked very ugly and jagged, a lot worse compared to my old lg arena; For my the DPI should have been a lot higher for better fonts but they are okay. I had to try a lot of browser though before I found which renders small text the best (xscope) so you can make a bit of use of the large screen
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Nice tip about the browser!

I had the Atrix and half the reason I sold it is because I couldn't stand the terrible screen. I dont even notice the loss of pixels with the S2 because things seem so much more crisp, like the edges on icons and a lot of other things.

lynxboy said:
After going from a Pentile display to a SLCD (N1 to DHD), I was shocked at how a screen with the same effective resolution (WVGA) could look so much sharper even after the size being increased by 0.6 inches. I began to understand why Pentile was getting so much bad press in tech circles and reviews. At the time I associated Pentile with AMOLED, as the only AMOLED based phones (N1, Desire, SGS) used a Pentile matrix and due to this my opinion on AMOLED was that despite the brilliant contrast, it was inferior to LCD.
It's safe to say that the SAMOLED+ reversed my previous opinion by ridding itself of the Pentile matrix. It's almost as if it is an entirely new screen tech. There's not much else to say other than once you see it, you will struggle to believe you could ever go back to a LCD/IPS or plain old AMOLED. The clarity and colour produced by this screen is second to none, regardless of PPI.
Regards.
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QFT. I also felt the text crispness of the S was quite lacking as against SLCD/LCD. But the SAMOLED+ of the S2 is really super. I cannot see any issues with text sharpness down to even small almost unreadable levels. I was sceptical about the 480x800 vs qhd of the sensation, and that too for a larger scree size, but was very happy when I switched on the phone for the first time. Text is pin sharp, colours absolutely brilliant. Cannot go back to SLCD.
In fact as another poster stated, sometimes the very high contrast is a slight pain actually. I wish there was a way to turn down the brightness even more for indoors / night use.

sandeep10 said:
In fact as another poster stated, sometimes the very high contrast is a slight pain actually. I wish there was a way to turn down the brightness even more for indoors / night use.
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You can go to the market and download an app called "screen filter" by haxor to lower brightness during indoor and night use. Give it a try and enjoy
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sieudaochich said:
You can go to the market and download an app called "screen filter" by haxor to lower brightness during indoor and night use. Give it a try and enjoy
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Thanks. Just what I was looking for. Will make my e-reading at night hugely easier.

sieudaochich said:
You can go to the market and download an app called "screen filter" by haxor to lower brightness during indoor and night use. Give it a try and enjoy
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Cannot thank posts on Tapatalk yet so just want to say major thanks for bringing this app to my attention! As Sandeep says, for those of us who read Ebooks at night this is a life (eye) saver! No more nagging from the missus regarding my screen glare.
Back on topic, I've compared the screens of the Sensation and SGS2 first hand and in normal usage the increased resolution of the Sensation doesn't offer a discernible increase in sharpness over the SGS2. Those with eagle eyes will no doubt contest this, but in truth the overall clarity of the SGS2 panel is IMHO superior to that of the Sensation. That said, if a qHD AMOLED phone was released, I'd be all over it!
Regards.

Just been comparing my friends HTC Desire (pentile amoled) with my SGS2 side by side and my Samsung is noticeably more sharper even though my screen is bigger. Desire has fuzzy text and colours aren't as good.
I hate pentile displays. I had the original SGS1 and returned it within a week because of the screen, but didn't know about pentile displays back then.

I didn't really mind it on my SGS but once I got my Atrix I hated the screen, I don't care for high res as I can barely read as is, but the SGS II screen is amazing compared to the original SGS.