I have read MANY threads, hunderds of pages.. I have rooted my phone... (the hard way, Thanks Toast) and I still really dont "GET IT.."
I would love a white board on the components of the whole process.. including titanium backup..
Meaning a writeup, showing each part of the system, and a paragraph on what it does..
Us Droidnoobs would really like to understand how this works from a high level... (or maybe I just belong on a short yellow bus...lol)
I just dont get what is required for each part, and what it affects..
NandUnlock: What does this do for us?
Engineering SPL: What is this?
Clockwork: ( i loved the movie.. but don't get how it pertains to the phone)
But seriously.. I dont know what is is, so how can I pick from the 2 avaiable?
Recovery: What parts of things dose this include? What is its function?
Nandroid back up: Do i need this and Titanium BK? Which will do what?
I want to figout how to back up my EVO and install new roms, and then re populate all my settings and data.. i use exchange, so i don't care about emails and contacts, but i have other email (pop) accts, that i want the accounts and preferences retained..
I have to root my bosses phone later today, and was wondering if i can do it with out it being activated? I was gonna get it rooted, and then activate it on Monday when I see him..
I'm by far not the most knowledgeable person but I can answer some of your questions... Anyone that knows better please correct me and let me know.
NandUnlock: What does this do for us?
This is required to install custom ROMs. Without it, you could install signed ROMs from Sprint (ie: Engineering ROM or Stock ROM) but not custom ROMs (like Fresh, DC, Cyanogen...).
Engineering SPL: What is this?
The way I understand it's a ROM version before the Stock ROM that Sprint/HTC probably used to test the phone before release. We use it because it is special in that it allows us to unlock the NAND part (Sprint stock ROM does not allow this).
Clockwork: ( i loved the movie.. but don't get how it pertains to the phone)
But seriously.. I dont know what is is, so how can I pick from the 2 avaiable?
Err... Not sure picking what...? But Clockwork is a great recovery app that makes it easy to drop files on the phone even if it wont boot or install custom ROMs/updates whether they are signed or not. It also makes backing up your phone (everything including the ROM, AFAIK, I use it and very happy with it) a snap. It reboots your phone to do this.
Recovery: What parts of things dose this include? What is its function?
Recovery is a special part of your phone that is away from the operating system. The OS can't install on top of itself, so you need separate code to do it. It's also a tool for when the OS is broken/not functioning and doing diagnostics.
Nandroid back up: Do i need this and Titanium BK? Which will do what?
I should know more about nandroid... but don't really. I think it backs up the recovery part/hboot? Errr... someone help me on this one.
Titanium backup makes it easy to backup your paid apps and even stock/OEM apps that came from the mfr or carrier. It has other backup functions, too.
I want to figout how to back up my EVO and install new roms, and then re populate all my settings and data.. i use exchange, so i don't care about emails and contacts, but i have other email (pop) accts, that i want the accounts and preferences retained..
Can't think of how to do this off the top of my head. Does it store on SD card? I can't be sure. I think there's an option to store this information on the SD card, so that should work AFAIK.
I have to root my bosses phone later today, and was wondering if i can do it with out it being activated? I was gonna get it rooted, and then activate it on Monday when I see him..
I'm pretty sure you can I don't see any reason why not but I've never encountered that situation before...
Hope this is helpful.
Thanks..
anyone else have their views on my questions? or differences fro the above?
thanks in advance..
I need more info on the Nandroid back up please..
Clockwork and ArmonRA both provide the capability to BACKUP your ROM, referred to as Nandroid. I know there are some plus and - to each. You should get in the habbit of ALWAYS taking a nandroid backup before you try a new rom. Give yourself something to fall back on.
TB lets you backup applications and OS settings and restore them. It will relink your apps to the market, which other apps will not do.
You must be very careful restoring OS settings, as each rom is built differently. Setting in DC will not work in Fresh for instance. So you can use TB to restore all your apps quickly, but you should still do the configuration manually.
You can root a non activated phone, but I think the activation process can cause you problems. I would wait until it is activated.
Clockwork: ( i loved the movie.. but don't get how it pertains to the phone) But seriously.. I dont know what is is, so how can I pick from the 2 avaiable?
i use AmonRA. why? because it seems that the general rule of thumb is that clockwork is easier for us noobs, but if anyone has issues they are told to use RA. so, i just use RA. i used clockwork for a bit but have i switched to RA; it's really not much different interface. the only thing i wish RA would do would be to allow me to 'browse for the zip to be flashed'. (oh yeah in RA...press both up/down at the same time to go back a level)
i believe you can use clockwork and simply 'flashover to RA' as needed from within the running OS. it can flash RA or Clkwrk or old version. i had something happen last month and wasn't sure what i did...once i got RA working, i said screw it and stayed with it. Clockwork does have a nice interface designed to make it easier to test out new ROMs...RA does not have this. is it needed? not really.
Nandroid back up: Do i need this and Titanium BK? Which will do what?
i use both. when i'm doing a buch of tweaks or testing a ROM, i make sure to make a nandroid backup (think Norton Ghost for phones). i also use titanium, mainly for when i install a new ROM. it allows me to restore just the apps and their settings onto the new ROM. its not perfect but does get most things. you'll need to setup things like email, facebook, twitter, meebo logins, etc.
so, although i often take a nandroid and titanium backup at abotu the same time, they are used to restore slightly differently. nandriod is my 'oh crap, this is bad i want to get off this ride' and titanium is my 'sweet, now how do i get my apps back in place without manually installing and config'ing each and every one'
(make sure to read about 'user apps' vs 'system data' w/ titanium).
I want to figout how to back up my EVO and install new roms, and then re populate all my settings and data.. i use exchange, so i don't care about emails and contacts, but i have other email (pop) accts, that i want the accounts and preferences retained..
titanium will get most of this. but i always seem to have to some tweaking cause some app has been installed or whatnot since my last backup. oh...and the titanium paid version will install all apps w/o manual intervention.
enjoy.
Clockwork: ( i loved the movie.. but don't get how it pertains to the phone)
Use either Clockwork or Amon RA, will not make a difference. Clockwork is used in ROM Manager as default.
Recovery: What parts of things dose this include? What is its function?
Recovery (volume down + power) allows you to flash zip files (rom, radio, apps, whatever), do manual nandroid backup, wipe your device, etc. Clockwork and Amon RA are both recoveries that do essentially the same thing.
Nandroid back up: Do i need this and Titanium BK? Which will do what?
Nandroid backups EVERYTHING on your phone, all apps, data, including rom, radio and kernel. It can be accessed via recovery or via an app called ROM manager.
Titanium Backup allows you to backup all your apps and data. You may ask why would you want to use Titanium Backup if Nandroid backs up everything? When you flash a new rom, you can use Titanium Backup to restore all your apps. (Otherwise restoring via Nandroid will restore your old rom over your newly flashed one)
I want to figout how to back up my EVO and install new roms, and then re populate all my settings and data.. i use exchange, so i don't care about emails and contacts, but i have other email (pop) accts, that i want the accounts and preferences retained..
Search the Market for email backup. Your google account restores all your contacts anyways.
Quick addition for your pop3 accounts. You can actually use GMail to push all your pop accounts. this will retain all the settings for those accounts if you reflash a new rom. There is a tutorial on here somewhere on how to do that. The GMAil push lets you set up labels and seperate email folders for your different pop3's also, you can add labels through the web interface and they will show up on your phone automatically, providing of course you have them set up to sync.
Another quick comment on Nandroid, this is a carbon image of your phne basically, so if you flash a new rom and then do a nandroid it will restore your phone to exactly how it was when you did the backup. So it wont work as an app backup, because if you flash a new rom and use nandroid you will be completed reverted to the rom you were on when you backed up. Make sense? Use titanium or there is even a backup called "mybackup" in the market which works also, I personally use titanium but my backup is a one click everything backup. Although it does not restore your market links, which allow you to get update notifications for your market apps.
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Think this may be my first post...thanks to all the devs out there for making things happen! Consider myself an above average user, though I don't really have the knowledge to code a ROM (though I'm sure I could tackle it if I put my mind to it). I just very good at following instructions and can reasonably trouble shoot if things go wrong.
Tried doing a search for this & came up a little blank...could have been I didn't know exactly what to search for. In any case, my question is about nandroid backups. Currently on a CDMA Hero "with Google" rooted & running RegawMOD v2.0.1...PRI 1.70_003...PRL 60663...RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery. My wife's phone (for all intents & purposes) is exactly the same, however, I'm the technical one here and have spent a lot of time tweaking my phone. Once I get my phone exactly how I want it, could I flash my nandroid to her Hero to save time in tweaking hers? Or is the nandroid backup tied to one unique piece of hardware/phone #/google log-in?
Im pretty sure that's how droid users share roms, via nandroid.
u can do it, i have done it...a while back the first week i had my hero i bricked it, but i had a nandroid backup. After i got a new phone i rooted it and restored with a nandroid backup worked perfect.
Thanks...and just one more question. I was actually doing a Google search on this one & couldn't find one concrete, concise, answer. In the recovery image, I have 3 different backup choices (Nand, Nand+ext, BART). It's my understanding that Nandroid vs. BART is essentially 2 different ways of doing the same thing...with the ext portion being useful if you are using a2sd (which I'm not using yet). The first choice of Nand backup should make a snapshot of my entire system (ROM, apps, settings, etc...everything on the phone itself, not installed to SD), right?
Ultimately, what I'm trying to accomplish is making a snapshot of my entire phone, mirroring it onto my wife's and then doing some minor tweaks to make it her's (i.e. change the google log-in to her's).
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n/m, found it in the root cheatsheet. Nand = onboard system, Nand+ext = onboard system + a2sd.
Still not exactly sure what the benefit of BART is, though.
yeah your correct, bart is just a alternative....personally i always use nandroid. Just use nandroid, make a nandroid backup then mount your sd to your computer. Open the nandroid folder, then you will see something like HT.... folder open it. Then you will see all your different nandroids, copy the one of your choice to your desktop. Mount your wife's go to the same place paste the folder there. Boot into recovery home+power nandroid restore tada you done go in change the settings you need to (gmail account)
Does nandroid backup also restore the PRI and PRL or does it leave that untouched?
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Does nandroid backup also restore the PRI and PRL or does it leave that untouched?
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It should leave it untouched. Though it has a chance to change your pri. I dont know much about it. As long as you flash the most current roms we have know, it will leave it untouched.
Hi!
I was a winmo user (samsung omnia) and I flashed the damn thing regularly, I mean like every week. So I had to reinstall everything from scratch. I don't want to be caught in that loop again, so I am asking you if it is possible to backup all my programs, data and settings and then just apply them after the flash.
Thank you very much, proud Legend user!
Backup contacts : hmm, you don't really have to do this, if you save your contacts on Google account, everytime you login to Google account on your phone, Contact list will be auto appear in People, even avatar pictures.
Apps : Use Astro File Manager to backup all apps in your phone, then flash another ROM, go to market to install Astro again, then backup apps from SD card.
Settings : hmm, I'm not sure you should do this, because everyrom is different, restore settings on this ROM to another ROM may damage your android. But you can always try Titanium Backup on Market.
Thanks! I am still wondering if I should flash because froyo is knocking on our doors.
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Thanks! I am still wondering if I should flash because froyo is knocking on our doors.
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Yeah froyo is really close, right after the desire the EVO 4G got its OTA.
So I'm expecting the update within 14days I would say a week but that might be to optimistic.
source: http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/02/evo-4g-starts-getting-android-2-2-update-over-the-air/
You can def.ly try Titanium Backup to get all your Apps + data backed up. You can also try My back up pro to back up your SMS and MMS along with your call log, Alarm and other application. With my back up pro you can back up to the SD card or online....
Titanium Backup requires root. You can also use MyBackup pro. You can use been root (with more features) or not been root (only backups apps, but not settings, what is not so good)
You can also use ROM Manager (free in the Market) to backup you full ROM and configuration: it will backup everything on SD Card (except your SD card and you can quickly recover old ROMs with full confuration and apps.
So le me get this straight, with rom manager I will be able to back up the entire Rom... cause if something goes wrong and can not update a newer rom, I can always go and choose my previous rom for the recovery screen....
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So le me get this straight, with rom manager I will be able to back up the entire Rom... cause if something goes wrong and can not update a newer rom, I can always go and choose my previous rom for the recovery screen....
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Yes, and everything will be exactly as in the moment you did de ROM backup. It is like a full hard disk image in a PC.
But, consider this:
With ROM Manager, you can have as many backups as you want and you can recover any one of them. BUT, you need to be able to boot your Legend to be able to launch ROM Manager (because ROM Manager is an application)
So, if you meet problems starting up a new ROM, you will need to load any rooted working ROM to be able to start up and launch ROM Manager (need to be rooted to be able to run ROM Manager).
As far as I know, if you use a ROM with A2SD feature, apps will be stored in the EXT3 partition of the SD card, and those apps WILL NOT BE INCLUDED IN BACKUP. So, if apps stored in the EXT3 partition changed, you will need to recover those apps with Titatium Backup.
There is another way to do a full backup called NANDROID, but I do not like it so much:
power off Legend, push "Back" bottom and Power On, select BOOTLOADER, select RECOVERY, connect USB cable to your PC, run "recovery-windows.bat" from your PC (from the same directory you used to root your Legend) and you will be able to select NANDROID BACKUP.
With NADONDROID BACKUP you can do also a full ROM backup, but you can store and recover only ONE backup/last backup. In addition, you need a PC to be able to run it. So, that is not very nice.
ok i see... thanks for the info....
I have not changed ROMs before. IMHO the procedure is simple enough. I am not worried about that step at all. The question is, What am I left with afterward.
What data, apps, etc. do I loose? Do I need to recover them from a back up? If so, what parts do I need to recover?
Also, from what I have read, if the ROMs are closely related, all the data and apps are preserved.
Can some one explain/comment on this?
I know this is a very nubbie question. I'm trying to minimize time consuming mistakes.
U should always wipe data with changing roms or u might end up with lots of fcs. While all the roms are similar and contain the same basic apps, some roms are gonna have different and new apps than others. I recomend backing up the apps that u have on ur current rom with TB and once u install a different rom, all u have to do is download TB from the market and install the apps u once backed up
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So all the apps I downloaded from market will then need to be reinstalled.
Do I loose the phone logs, all texts, contacts (but linked to gmail)?
I am unclear what "data" is stored where. What counts are "data" in the backups. Is application data backed up with "data", or included w/ the "apps" backup?
I am backed up with TB. (both data and apps).
I have also backed w/ CWM.
I assume/hope my identity (phone#, etc.) is tied to something like a MAC address that will not be wiped.
your identity is not wiped, are you using a sprint phone?
You should backup 2 ways at least, a nandroid with CWM and maybe Titanium Backup. Then follow the instructions of the ROM you are installing. Most no longer require wipes. After you flash the ROM if something did not restore properly just shut down, boot into CWM. Go to backup and restore, go to advanced restore data from your last backup. All should be restored.
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I am on Sprint.
I am a bit confused on the CWM recovery, never having actually used it to restore anything. When i go to the restore utility in CWM, I see each of the backups listed. Not sure if I get the option of what to restore.
I may or may not want to restore the old ROM depending on the outcome of the new ROM flash.
But since u gonna issues TB all u have to do is jst download it from the market and the reinstall the apps u want back. U see, instead of searching for them on the market, u can jst install them from TB. And u won't losse contacts or emails if u sync them with gmail
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So all the apps I downloaded from market will then need to be reinstalled.
Do I loose the phone logs, all texts, contacts (but linked to gmail)?
I am unclear what "data" is stored where. What counts are "data" in the backups. Is application data backed up with "data", or included w/ the "apps" backup?
I am backed up with TB. (both data and apps).
I have also backed w/ CWM.
I assume/hope my identity (phone#, etc.) is tied to something like a MAC address that will not be wiped.
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My phone is Captivating, Fascinating, Epic and also LEGENDARY!!
If you are changing ROMs on the same version of firmware, like Gingerbread to Gingerbread, you can backup right before flashing (and you should), then when you flash the new ROM it may or may not preserve your data which is apps, contacts, call logs...IF it fails to restore properly you can do a factory data reset in CWM which will clean any bad restore, then do an ADVANCED RESTORE DATA and pick the newest one. They are date coded. It will ask you to confirm before doing it. This will only restore 3rd party apps and data like call logs, wifi links, email accounts and stuff like that.
The deed is done. The SMS messages do not restore. I tried to pick and choose apps to restore. Then restored all data.
The phone is functional, however. That was my main concern.
Thanks to all who read and responded.
now CleanGB 18
Duh.
Needed to reboot for all restored settings to appear.
To refresh, from what version did you move into? WHat do you have now?
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Duh.
Needed to reboot for all restored settings to appear.
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Ha, was just about to tell you that. Glad you are up and running.
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I am a tiny bit concerned that I have just restored a bunch of un-needed crap onto my phone, from the TB backup.
Anyone know what the colors and icons of the files in TB signify?
I was looking for help in the tiki, but I don't see a concise explanation.
http://matrixrewriter.com/wiki/tiki-index.php
I presume I would not accidently reinstall carrier IQ and other un-fixes unintentionally with TB by restoring apps and data.
Applications backup but not cache or data?
System backups?
Sms and call logs?
And system backups?
Are those all to do? If i backup those, when i restore, will i be able to have my desktop widgets, desktop icons sorted correctly ?
I think the best answer is "it depends on what you want to restore to".
When I change roms, I make a full backup using CWM, that way, no matter what the new rom breaks, I can go back to exactly where I was before.
But if you really want the new rom and think the problem is in one app or setting, you can backup only the apps .apk, the apps data and the rom settings, then you can restore everything individually and see where the problem is.
This all assuming you are not changing major android versions (like from froyo to gingerbread) or not changing roms "types" (like from stock to CM or to miui). If you are, then the partial backup is not recommended since it may not work.
In this last case, your best hope is to backup the apps .apk and store all other data somewhere where you can import to android (like storing the contacts in google account), since you shouldn't really restore anything else.
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I think the best answer is "it depends on what you want to restore to".
When I change roms, I make a full backup using CWM, that way, no matter what the new rom breaks, I can go back to exactly where I was before.
But if you really want the new rom and think the problem is in one app or setting, you can backup only the apps .apk, the apps data and the rom settings, then you can restore everything individually and see where the problem is.
This all assuming you are not changing major android versions (like from froyo to gingerbread) or not changing roms "types" (like from stock to CM or to miui). If you are, then the partial backup is not recommended since it may not work.
In this last case, your best hope is to backup the apps .apk and store all other data somewhere where you can import to android (like storing the contacts in google account), since you shouldn't really restore anything else.
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I want a full back up; calendars sms call logs applications data system data etc. For sms i use go-sms backup, i hope it will restore without any problem. When i backup with cwm and restore, will my settings (system( be protected as before?
With CWM if you restore you will get all data, including Rom, Kernel, sms, calls, etc All you data that is in internal memory. Don't worry. If you restore it, you will get the phone like it was when you made the backup.
Titanium capabilities
I was wondering if it is possible to backup app (with their data), sms and contacts....all in one go using Titanium (non-pro version) (I think we call it batch backup)? I am totally new to the ROOTING and CUSTOM ROM worlds and I am literally freaking out with all the huge info on this topic on the internet. I am using a CM10 on I9000. Please help!
Yes i wonder too.
Boot in recovery
select backup to ext sd
run...
you have back up everythin like ghost in pc....
( so you can try another rom and if you dont like it restore your back up and you have you old rom
working with all data app contacts etc )
you must youse the same cwm version for restore with the one that you use for backup
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Applications backup but not cache or data?
System backups?
Sms and call logs?
And system backups?
Are those all to do? If i backup those, when i restore, will i be able to have my desktop widgets, desktop icons sorted correctly ?
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Are you attempting to backup so that you can move the apps/sms/settings to the new ROM or backing up in case you want to restore? Titanium backup is probably the thing you want in the former case and either with cwm backup or with linux dd backup in the latter. Personally I had problem moving system settings between roms, but apps should work just fine.
hello everybody!!
can someone actually explain to me what is nandroid backup??and how it really works??what is the different with other backup on the market such as titanium backup??
thnxs for your time~
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Nandroid is a backup option that completely backs up your system nand (internal memory), including the ROM, apps, etc. You can restore a nandroid backup and have everything working in case you flash a bad kernel, ROM, or something like that. It is fundamentally different from an app like titanium backup because it is an image of the entire system, not just individual apps and their data.
If you want to make a nandroid backup, flash a CWM recovery image, then when you boot into recovery, there is a "backup and restore" menu option. Backup to create one, restore will restore the entire state of your device from when you made the backup.
Nandroid backup will backup your partition with this output
1.Boot.img-your kernel
2.Recovery.img-your default recovery
3.system.ext4.tar-all ROM file system
4.data.ext4.tar-all data likes apps, your progress
5.cache.ext2.tar- your cache..
So if you use nandroid, is there no need for titanium backup?
What is the sequence of steps if I want to preserve my Google Play downloaded apps and its associated data, but I still want to wipe everything and install a brand new ROM such as CM9?
Would it be:
--make a nandroid backup
--completely nuke everything except the SD card?
--install the new CM9 rom
--restore from nandroid?
Where does titanium backup fit into this scenario?
Thanks
Nandroid backs up your entire rom, apps and their current configuration as is. Titanium Backup is used to backup individual apps.
If you are flashing a rom, always do a Nandroid first; it is your way to get back to your last working system and configuration if flashing messes something up. Think of Nandroid, as being mandatory.
Some then use Titanium Backup to backup an individual app, such as your Email client; then you don't have to reconfigure your Email client with a new rom. I find it to be almost as fast, just to reconfigure individual apps after a wipe and new rom flash. So think of Titanium Backup, as optional.
ok.. great answers.. now the queston becomes..
how to do a nandroid back up? .
is there a special app needed?
thanks....
jimmbomb said:
ok.. great answers.. now the queston becomes..
how to do a nandroid back up? .
is there a special app needed?
thanks....
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Reading totally helps here as this is written just a few posts above.
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If you want to make a nandroid backup, flash a CWM recovery image, then when you boot into recovery, there is a "backup and restore" menu option. Backup to create one, restore will restore the entire state of your device from when you made the backup.
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Reading totally helps here as this is written just a few posts above.
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thanks for the reminder to re-read the thread once again..
And thanks again for the quote as well....
I will quote this part here..
"If you want to make a nandroid backup, flash a CWM recovery image, then when you boot "
Now my next question is please elaborate on a "CWM recovery image"
Please forgive me for not knowing.. as the OP posted his lack of knowledge as well..
Please DO admonish me as well for asking in HIS thread on what a CWM recovery image is.. and or where to get one and how apply and use it..
I think this is a good thread for those who do not understand as the OP started..
His questions were answered...
So is it safe to move backwards for those who would like to know more about this procedure.
Thanks to all who reply.
All replies are welcomed and encouraged..
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ok.. great answers.. now the queston becomes..
how to do a nandroid back up? .
is there a special app needed?
thanks....
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I can tell you from my experience this (I'm still quite new to Android myself):
Nandroid (a funky concatenation of NAND and ANDROID) means a full IMAGE of your current system. It is like a partition image on Windows, like Acronis TrueImage or Norton Ghost... It backs up everything, your OS, all apps, data, settings etc. BUT you can only restore it as a whole (generally speaking) which means you get back to THIS setup. You can NOT install a new ROM and then restore only the apps!
That's why the best way to do it is to do BOTH! You make a nandroid in case you screw up and "brick" your device during flash, so you can always GO BACK to where you were BEFORE you tried flashing anything and then re-try.
You use Titanium Backup to just back up your APPS and their DATA as well as some important system settings like SMS history, Wifi AP list etc. THAT stuff is "transferable" into a new ROM. Consider that like you are burning CDs with your music and movies etc and then you install a fresh Windows. You have a NEW OS but you get your old DATA back. In this case it includes APPS and their respective data, e.g. game progress, saved documents, settings etc. for every app.
Oh and in order to make that nandroid backup, you need to search for and install "CWM" Clockworkmod Recovery. Now THAT is like a built in recovery partition on Dell or Apple laptops! It is a way to boot into an emergency system by holding down a couple of keys (volume up and power) if your main ROM becomes unbootable! There are lots of threads on here about CWM, where to get it and how to install it. Just DO NOT install the current CWM on a Verizon (SCH-i815) Galaxy Tab 7.7 just yet. We just found a couple of bugs that can prevent you from getting updates. If you have the "international" Tab (P6800 or 6810), you should be good.
Hope this helps bring a little light in the dark. Welcome to Android !!
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thanks for the reminder to re-read the thread once again..
And thanks again for the quote as well....
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Didn't want to offend you, you just asked an answered question.
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Now my next question is please elaborate on a "CWM recovery image"
Please forgive me for not knowing.. as the OP posted his lack of knowledge as well..
Please DO admonish me as well for asking in HIS thread on what a CWM recovery image is.. and or where to get one and how apply and use it..
I think this is a good thread for those who do not understand as the OP started..
His questions were answered...
So is it safe to move backwards for those who would like to know more about this procedure.
Thanks to all who reply.
All replies are welcomed and encouraged..
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CWM recovery means "clock work mod recovery" it is a custom recovery system. You can imagine a recovery system as something like BIOS for pc's. (not true but easier to understand) You can get there by holding volume up button while turning your device on.
So why do you need a custom recovery?
When you get a new android device it has stock recovery system installed which has very limited functionality. If you want to install custom ROMs from your SD card you need to install cwm recovery first. Also you will get ability to do nandroid backup and restore the same. Nandroid backup will copy an exact image of your current system. ROM, apps, configs and so on. You should ALWAYS do a nandroid backup before trying out new ROMs so you can easily switch back if something goes wrong.
Hope I could clear things out for you.
PS: sorry for bad english, it's not my native language
thank you electron..
I DO have the international 6800 that I got from negri..
I routinely swap my ATT sim between this on weekends and my GNote GN7000 during the week,
Using them both on ATT and working great..
Just that I have never flashed anything before on either device..
But I read quite a bit..
I still HAVE NOT got ICS yet on my Note either... Just too scared to pull the trigger..
I must be one of those who need hand-holding walk thru... but I wont ask for that.. not here anyways
repercussions will come down like hell fire..! hahahah
Backup with nandroid equals the image obtained with Norton Ghost / Acronis True Image
Good afternoon,
I've been reading this and other topics on nandroid and I think this is the solution I seek. A friend asked me for help with a project that will donate some tablets (lower-cost devices, probably models the brand GT S 7205 Genesis) for a school of education. He asked my help in order to create a drive "master" which will be configured with a user account that will serve Gmail for sending educational material and a second e-mail account (Hotmail) which students should visit regularly using the default browser to receive Android news and correspond with students from another school that participates in the project.
Since it is not appropriate to provide for children the usernames and passwords of emails, we then create this unity "master" and replicate their content in other units.
My question is whether this backed up with nandroid will copy the user account settings Gmail also logs sessions started with the browser (after all we know that after accessing a site using the standard Android browser, no need to re-enter login / password, unless you log out or erase).
Thanks a lot if I can clarify this question.
mtcdesc-android said:
Good afternoon,
I've been reading this and other topics on nandroid and I think this is the solution I seek. A friend asked me for help with a project that will donate some tablets (lower-cost devices, probably models the brand GT S 7205 Genesis) for a school of education. He asked my help in order to create a drive "master" which will be configured with a user account that will serve Gmail for sending educational material and a second e-mail account (Hotmail) which students should visit regularly using the default browser to receive Android news and correspond with students from another school that participates in the project.
Since it is not appropriate to provide for children the usernames and passwords of emails, we then create this unity "master" and replicate their content in other units.
My question is whether this backed up with nandroid will copy the user account settings Gmail also logs sessions started with the browser (after all we know that after accessing a site using the standard Android browser, no need to re-enter login / password, unless you log out or erase).
Thanks a lot if I can clarify this question.
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Nandroid makes an image of your existing system. Everything will be the same as when you made the backup, inkluding gmail accounts, passwords etc.
I think you can use that method the way you mentioned.
Thanks
boelze, thank you for assisting me to clarify this question.