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Noob question

I'm new to this whole WM stuff. I'm getting my first WM phone tomorrow (Verizon XV6800). I've been looking over a lot of posts about themes and ROM and about everything i guess. The question I have is, before installing themes, should I flash the phone? And what does that involve? I see that there are different ROM's out there. Are there any i should stay away from and will one affect certain themes? And I've read something about Radio and Kitchen. Not sure what those are about either.
I guess I need to know what the first thing I need to do to my phone before I start "playing" with it?
Thanks for helping a NOOB!

keep reading and searching keep an eye on dcd's roms they are the best

Scrawnyb has a nice guide for VZW users that walk you through the flash process step by step... recommended - quite painless if followed closely...
http://ppc.stoleyour.net/xv6800/

infernoman said:
I'm new to this whole WM stuff. I'm getting my first WM phone tomorrow (Verizon XV6800). I've been looking over a lot of posts about themes and ROM and about everything i guess. The question I have is, before installing themes, should I flash the phone? And what does that involve? I see that there are different ROM's out there. Are there any i should stay away from and will one affect certain themes? And I've read something about Radio and Kitchen. Not sure what those are about either.
I guess I need to know what the first thing I need to do to my phone before I start "playing" with it?
Thanks for helping a NOOB!
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If you want to use the GPS for other apps like TomTom, Google Maps, Live Search then flash DCD roms with the 3.42.XX Radio roms. I use .50 as I don't really see a big difference between them. If you don't use the GPS or would be happy with paying Verizon to use VZNavigator then use the MR1 stock rom update. I personally like to customize my ROM with other OEMs so the application is apart of the ROM. I also like to use my GPS for all the apps above and also GeoScout, a geocaching GPS application. I also hear that DCD's ROM are the most stable and clean for maximum memory free and performance. Keep doing your homework on how/what to flash. It is pretty easy but follow the instructions carefully.

Thanks all of you for your advise. I just got my phone and getting ready to play with it. When I flash it, does it get flashed to the phone itself or the memory card?

infernoman said:
Thanks all of you for your advise. I just got my phone and getting ready to play with it. When I flash it, does it get flashed to the phone itself or the memory card?
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It will flash to the internal ROM, so once it is flashed it stays static all changes or new software would be in RAM or SD Card.

Thanks all for your help. I got everything up and running. Got some themes on there that i was playing with until i got an HTC Home theme that locked everything up. Ended up havin gto do a hard reset. The way to learn i guess. Looks like for now, i'm sticking with windows. some good things out there, but ALL seem to have bugs.

Will someon help me?

I am looking for someone that has experience in themes and something to apply them with. I am using cht 1.8 and I am also using stock tmo us rom and radio.
I tried out hdwalls and it didn't work out too well.

I've seen issues reported when the music is just copied over to the storage card. One of the files causes the music player to take ages to load.
The common solution is to use WM player to sync the music i think...
Sorry responded to wrong post!! my bad..

you must be mis-understanding me. I am not talking about anything close to music. i'm talking about applying wallpapers and themes like hdwalls does. I hae tried the gtx theme but it doesn't work on my phone it distorts everything and shows no today screen cuz it all gets covered by the distortion.
I wanna make some really nice today screens but have observed you need some programs to do it with.

Not sure but gonna guess it is because you have a "Stock" rom ..
Most of these packages require a lot of "fixes" that stock roms do not have ...
one of the big things is installing unsigned apps , stock roms, don't let you do that ..

but i'm very cautious about flashing my rom. I am not sure that I am fully ready to flash a custom rom. I have chosen nrgz energy rom with gtx theme but I dont' feel I have been given the whole complete set of directions

sherlockpwnz said:
but i'm very cautious about flashing my rom. I am not sure that I am fully ready to flash a custom rom. I have chosen nrgz energy rom with gtx theme but I dont' feel I have been given the whole complete set of directions
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Well there are plenty of threads here on this forum about flashing, HSPL is important first ....
Flashing a custom rom is a lot easier than trying to customize a stock rom with the hundreds of fixes that is required to make it "LOOK" like a custom rom.
remember the main rules of flashing a ROM
1.)Search
2.)Read
3.)Read Again
4.)Read it Again
5.)Rinse and Repeat

trust me I've been reading for weeks and weeks and weeks. before I even made my username I sat around and read up to like 30 pages back on each section of the htc leo hd2. I know that first back to 2.10 rom so I can get 2.08 spl then get hspl then flash the rom. but yuo know being the first time doing it I'm kinda worried that I might do something and I haven't really found a walkthrough on each detailed step on nhow to flash a tmo us 1024 leo cuz I keep finding smaller and smaller details as I keep reading. not that you guys aren't a legitimate source I just feel I might be missing something.
1. backdate to 2.10 rom
2. get hspl for 1024
3. flash rom.
Missing anything?

sherlockpwnz said:
trust me I've been reading for weeks and weeks and weeks. before I even made my username I sat around and read up to like 30 pages back on each section of the htc leo hd2. I know that first back to 2.10 rom so I can get 2.08 spl then get hspl then flash the rom. but yuo know being the first time doing it I'm kinda worried that I might do something and I haven't really found a walkthrough on each detailed step on nhow to flash a tmo us 1024 leo cuz I keep finding smaller and smaller details as I keep reading. not that you guys aren't a legitimate source I just feel I might be missing something.
1. backdate to 2.10 rom
2. get hspl for 1024
3. flash rom.
Missing anything?
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Might want to backup your contacts and things, and maybe even your sdcard ...
I used Microsoft My Phone to save my contacts , sms and such to the cloud while I flashed ...
Also you may want to search for Task29 this is a way to make sure your phone is nice and clean to accept the new ROM, task 29 is the last thing you do before flashing the ROM ..
The first 2 months I had my HD2 I think I flashed it about 9 times before I settled on the Energy Rom ...

sherlockpwnz said:
but i'm very cautious about flashing my rom. I am not sure that I am fully ready to flash a custom rom. I have chosen nrgz energy rom with gtx theme but I dont' feel I have been given the whole complete set of directions
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This is the thread you want to read. It's very simple to do.
In short, download and install HSPL connect your phone, make sure you have 50% battery or more, you don't need to update your radio for it to be compatable with Energy ROMs as you are already using a TMobile USA device, download the GTX Energy ROM. Extract the two files 'LEOIMG.nbh' & 'LeoCustomRUU' file to a folder on your desktop, double click the 'LeoCustomRUU' which looks like your HD2, and follow the on screen intructions. Give it 2 mins and the phone will restart and voila you have a new OS on your phone.

How is your experience so far with energy compared to others?

sherlockpwnz said:
How is your experience so far with energy compared to others?
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Read my sig. I love NRG and I love the Energy ROMs, some will say you aren't going to get the best battery life from them, but to be honest I haven't really noticed any difference. They are super fast, and look gorgeous.
*Edit*Oh and NRG updates almost weekly so he really does an absolute plethora of updates on the smallest things, so I would say they are without a doubt the most refined ROMs avaliable.

sherlockpwnz said:
How is your experience so far with energy compared to others?
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To be honest I thought I was NOT gonna like it, but after using it , it seems to be very stable.
I have flashed it twice to my TMOHD2 and both times, had to do a battery pull after the first full boot ... BUT after that it has seem to run perfect ..
I flashed it twice just to see if the battery pull trick worked the second time, not that it failed to flash or anything like that ....
But I would read the features list of several ROMS before deciding , also you will find that ROM flashing can be addictive, once you start it is like you have to have your NEXT FIX .... /me shudders ...

well since you've flashed 9 different ones I think I have gathered from what you said. What does energy have that other roms don't besides stability and performance.

sherlockpwnz said:
well since you've flashed 9 different ones I think I have gathered from what you said. What does energy have that other roms don't besides stability and performance.
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Kalavere said:
*Edit*Oh and NRG updates almost weekly so he really does an absolute plethora of updates on the smallest things, so I would say they are without a doubt the most refined ROMs avaliable.
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Refinement!

sherlockpwnz said:
well since you've flashed 9 different ones I think I have gathered from what you said. What does energy have that other roms don't besides stability and performance.
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Stability and Performance ... Is the best thing to look for, the rest of the stuff is eyecandy ... and with the custom ROMS you don't have many issues making it behave the way you want it to ....
Just check out the Energy ROMS thread and look at the apps that come installed, it is a personal choice ...

Kalavere said:
Refinement!
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+1
Ditto .....

well I have the night off so I just might do it tonight. Though I haven't looked into task 29. is there anything I should know about task 29?

Click my sig and check post #4, you won't find any other chef that tweaks as much and as often as that!

sherlockpwnz said:
well I have the night off so I just might do it tonight. Though I haven't looked into task 29. is there anything I should know about task 29?
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I don't use it, so I know nothing about it.

sherlockpwnz said:
well I have the night off so I just might do it tonight. Though I haven't looked into task 29. is there anything I should know about task 29?
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I would not worry too much about doing a task29 since you are going from stock ...
I use it when going from custom rom to custom rom, to make sure "Everything" is clean ...
Good Luck!!!

Perfect WM and Android Combination. NO ECHO OR SOD! Updated: 8/7/10

First i want to say thanks to all the developers that got involved to make this possible. Their hard work and sleepless nights are greatly appreciated.
I tried so many combinations of ROM's and Radio's that i gave up and nearly lost hope until a friend of mine at work found the perfect combination of Windows Mobile and Android to load on the US Tmobile HD2. Maybe i should buy him lunch tomorrow .
I think many are experiencing the issues i had, soooo.... I wanted to share this information and show you all little lost sheep out there how to get to the light at the end of the tunnel.
If you want to start from scratch, meaning from the factory ROM on the phone, then do what i did and follow the instructions below in the same order i performed them. If you are savvy enough to follow along without starting from a stock ROM, then more power to you. These steps are for the dummies like me who are out there and cant follow instructions.
Again this is for the US-TMobile HD2's. I dont know that this will work for the EU HD2's. Try at your own risk.
Step 1
Install the TMO Stock ROM. Click Here
Step 2
Root your TMO Stock ROM by installing 2.08.HardSPL. Click Here
Step 3
Install Energy's "Stardard-Energy" ROM located on the US TMO forum but for your convenience.... Click Here
Step 4
Install Radio version 2.12.50.02.2. Click Here
Step 5
Copy shubCRAFT's "Android" folder to the root of your SD Card. Click Here
- (I edited the startup file to prevent the "cant access tty; job control turned off " error message, therefore this install should be plug and play.
- When the copy is complete, place the SD CARD back in your phone if not already, and run clrcad & haret from the Storage card.
- You can also use the auto boot loader .cab file on your WM rom to autoload Android. Click Here
Updated: 8/7/10
For those of you who are having issues and don't know how to modify the startup.txt file. Here is a copy of the startup.txt file without the "loop_partition=mmcblk0" command line. Click Here
Just copy the file to the Android folder and overwrite the existing one and you should be all set.
Step 6
Here is a new 1GB userdata.img download link. Click Here
The old one was giving issues with texting. If you guys want a bigger userdata file let me know. This will also fix any download issues from the Market and prevent low disk space errors when attempting to install an application from the SD card.
Update: 8/7/10
Here is a 4GB userdata.img for the ones that wanted a bigger file. Click Here

I'll have to try this. Keep having the static/echo problem no matter what radio I use. Currently I'm running ChuckyROMS and dan1j3l's Froyo build. Got one more radio to try and if that doesn't work, oh well, I'll try this combo.

As far as I remember I am using ChuckyDroid and Radio 12_50.2 and matt latest version and no echo/sod since yesterday and got about 20 hours out of battery life. Must mention I use the phone "alot" so my battery drains accordingly

sudeep62589 said:
As far as I remember I am using ChuckyDroid and Radio 12_50.2 and matt latest version and no echo/sod since yesterday and got about 20 hours out of battery life. Must mention I use the phone "alot" so my battery drains accordingly
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Wow are you serious 20 hours ????

I'm using:
LEO_Cloudy_1.6 and Radio 2.12.50.02_2
mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense RC1.4
together with Cloudy AndroidLoader too
Working perfectly, no robotic voice

the new zimage is what kills the echo, nothing magical about it.

Frustrating!
Even with the new zimage, clean SD, I still get robo-voice. I refuse to clean out my stock TMOUS ROM / radio though...there has to be a fix that doesn't require me to do HSPL....(i own a mac...is there an easy way to do HSPL on a mac?)

hobonic said:
Even with the new zimage, clean SD, I still get robo-voice. I refuse to clean out my stock TMOUS ROM / radio though...there has to be a fix that doesn't require me to do HSPL....(i own a mac...is there an easy way to do HSPL on a mac?)
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U don'nt have to HSPL again to install the Radio, and neither will u lose any data, so just go ahead if an new radio will help resolving the robo-voise

Does flashing the stock tmo rom first really make a difference? I've flashed like crazy to get the best combo but haven't had the stock rom since I first flashed.
No matter what I do I'm still getting massive background noise (mic gain?) downloading energy + shubcraft now, let's see if this does it!

I can't say its perfect... it seems clear... just very low volume.. I do love how well this is all coming along!! what 2 weeks and it almost totally usable ?!?!
us tmo hd2
Radio version 2.12.50.02.2
Energy's "Stardard-Energy" ROM
shubCRAFT's Android build

Cobra2 said:
U don'nt have to HSPL again to install the Radio, and neither will u lose any data, so just go ahead if an new radio will help resolving the robo-voise
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the robot will keep talkin to u until u dont chage ur tomous HD2 Stock (****) ROM ... just kiddin man .. the robocop depends upon ROM only not radio... before i also tried different radios with STOCK tmobile rom but robotic voice came with all.. but NOW changing to miri later to chuky both rom shown np problem at all except for echo which is not a problem to me as it a problem of the opposite site and somtimes i use the stock headset which get the echo out also... by da way android got far greater audio quality when playin music dont know why... but during calls vice versa

nawcho said:
the new zimage is what kills the echo, nothing magical about it.
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The man speaks the truth. Try 3rd August version guys.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App.

tgtoys said:
Does flashing the stock tmo rom first really make a difference? I've flashed like crazy to get the best combo but haven't had the stock rom since I first flashed.
No matter what I do I'm still getting massive background noise (mic gain?) downloading energy + shubcraft now, let's see if this does it!
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Its not the rom but the audio driver that the rom uses. Look for robotic sound problem thread in this section for the files.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App.

You know guys, I really gotta say this. I think its really mestup that when you try to download the "Standard-Energy Rom" they give you the option to either pay them for a fast download or suffer through their agravating super slow download that they intentionally made that way for who ever doesnt wanna pay up.
I noticed the "Affiliate Program" they have which for those of you who dont know, it just means that every time someone goes and pays for the "super fast download", there is someone behind the scene getting paid for making you pay. That someone is usually the one who provides the link to that website.
Why am I exposing this? because who ever is doing this should at least have the curtesy to let us know it is NOT free to download and HE will make money when you choose to pay, not just thinking he's fooling people to a comission- which he is.
The last time I tried downloading for free, it took 2 1/2 hours and at the end I got a little "Error" message saying there was a problem downloading and the download could not be completed. - .. as expected for not paying up right?
How do I know this, because I AM an "Affiliate Marketer". I know how this stuff works, but I dont work this way.

has anyone realized this is a emulator .....lmao

JesHD2 said:
You know guys, I really gotta say this. I think its really mestup that when you try to download the "Standard-Energy Rom" they give you the option to either pay them for a fast download or suffer through their agravating super slow download that they intentionally made that way for who ever doesnt wanna pay up.
I noticed the "Affiliate Program" they have which for those of you who dont know, it just means that every time someone goes and pays for the "super fast download", there is someone behind the scene getting paid for making you pay. That someone is usually the one who provides the link to that website.
Why am I exposing this? because who ever is doing this should at least have the curtesy to let us know it is NOT free to download and HE will make money when you choose to pay, not just thinking he's fooling people to a comission- which he is.
The last time I tried downloading for free, it took 2 1/2 hours and at the end I got a little "Error" message saying there was a problem downloading and the download could not be completed. - .. as expected for not paying up right?
How do I know this, because I AM an "Affiliate Marketer". I know how this stuff works, but I dont work this way.
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so who is going to pay for the hosting that has nothing to do with the developer its the hosting site ur getting there work for free start download and go get some coffee your first post could of been more useful

Jackuuuuu said:
The man speaks the truth. Try 3rd August version guys.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App.
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Yeah you got it, thats the only "magical" thing. With the last Radio all Echos are gone and the Bad Backround noises too.
No one must try diff ROM and Radios anymore.
I use the Original 1.66 Stock ROM and Darkstones Desire v5 (my absolute favorit) and with the latest zimage the last Soundproblems are solved.
I only wait for GPS works in the v5, coz than it is the perfect build.

Thank you for this post! Very helpful

hobonic said:
Even with the new zimage, clean SD, I still get robo-voice. I refuse to clean out my stock TMOUS ROM / radio though...there has to be a fix that doesn't require me to do HSPL....(i own a mac...is there an easy way to do HSPL on a mac?)
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did u check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=737936
applies to stock roms also, flash a 2.10 rom

ROMeOS has been updated to v4.17 expressly for Android Compatibility

Best Sense?

Hi,
I'm looking for best sense for g1. My requirements are backlight, android 2.1+, good battery life, fast, stable. Which rom had what I won't? Does maybe better on 1.5 android? I'm waiting for a reply

I second this, I would like Sense too, anyone?
Sent from my Xoom

Youleck said:
Hi,
I'm looking for best sense for g1. My requirements are backlight, android 2.1+, good battery life, fast, stable. Which rom had what I won't? Does maybe better on 1.5 android? I'm waiting for a reply
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[just a thought]
may be consider buying a new phone
[/just a thought]

not sure how far along you are with your G1.. i assume its rooted haha but the best sense rom i've used to date would have to be zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HERO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670414
but with this rom you need to have the latest radio and hboot: 2.22.28.25, 1.33.0013d. this rom has most of the latest features and all those sense widgets we all love so much. If anyone knows of a better rom i would love to try it but as of now thats the best i know of. also if you need help flashing it DO ask questions before trying something you are unsure of.. because there's always that possibility of bricking your beloved G1. and we dont want that now do we..? haha feel free to ask me anything you need..

ldrifta said:
not sure how far along you are with your G1.. i assume its rooted haha but the best sense rom i've used to date would have to be zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HERO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670414
but with this rom you need to have the latest radio and hboot: 2.22.28.25, 1.33.0013d. this rom has most of the latest features and all those sense widgets we all love so much. If anyone knows of a better rom i would love to try it but as of now thats the best i know of. also if you need help flashing it DO ask questions before trying something you are unsure of.. because there's always that possibility of bricking your beloved G1. and we dont want that now do we..? haha feel free to ask me anything you need..
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Now I have froyobylaszlo with radio 2.22.27.08 and hboot 1.33.0013d. I changed ROMs many times on my G1 and I know what I must do.
So. zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HER? But with android 1.5 ar 2.1 ?

ldrifta said:
not sure how far along you are with your G1.. i assume its rooted haha but the best sense rom i've used to date would have to be zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HERO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670414
but with this rom you need to have the latest radio and hboot: 2.22.28.25, 1.33.0013d. this rom has most of the latest features and all those sense widgets we all love so much. If anyone knows of a better rom i would love to try it but as of now thats the best i know of. also if you need help flashing it DO ask questions before trying something you are unsure of.. because there's always that possibility of bricking your beloved G1. and we dont want that now do we..? haha feel free to ask me anything you need..
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any ideas about google services in zx 2.1 hero?
i had flashed this rom and i found that i cannot sync with google

andychan27 said:
any ideas about google services in zx 2.1 hero?
i had flashed this rom and i found that i cannot sync with google
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uhhhmmm im not sure why that would be but i did notice some of the roms dont come with gmail on it so you may have to download the actual gmail app... if not than try reflashing.. because i didnt have that issue.. not sure if it is a huge difference but i also had the 28.25 radio not the 27.08.. also i know it sounds dumb but you actually do have to wait like 10 minutes after the service provider pops up when you first flash.. i recomend following the steps on the rom link exact!! but i know my google services worked when i had it so maybe jus try a reflash if its still not working... sorry for your trouble.. im gonna re flash the rom now so i can see if i find anything...

Youleck said:
Now I have froyobylaszlo with radio 2.22.27.08 and hboot 1.33.0013d. I changed ROMs many times on my G1 and I know what I must do.
So. zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HER? But with android 1.5 ar 2.1 ?
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it should be 2.1 if im not mistaken... my friend just got the 4g evo and this rom can almost do everything that phone does... almost.. lol it's just the G1 is older and slower so you must be careful on how many widgets you use and jus keep an eye out for your basic memory drains.. i reccomend apps2sd

here's a link to another pretty cool sense rom http://www.youtube.com/user/ANDROIDZ13 this kid makes roms on his spare time and there not too bad looking.. not sure if they are OFFICIAL yet but i give him props for doing what he does.. only thing is not sure what radio and hboot are required for his roms... im trying to get a hold of em to find out, once i do ill spread the details with the rest of you, but for now take a look at his latest sense rom and some of his previous work and dont be shy to give thanks.. (the download links are in the descriptions of the videos's, click the more info button..)

ldrifta said:
here's a link to another pretty cool sense rom http://www.youtube.com/user/ANDROIDZ13 this kid makes roms on his spare time and there not too bad looking.. not sure if they are OFFICIAL yet but i give him props for doing what he does.. only thing is not sure what radio and hboot are required for his roms... im trying to get a hold of em to find out, once i do ill spread the details with the rest of you, but for now take a look at his latest sense rom and some of his previous work and dont be shy to give thanks.. (the download links are in the descriptions of the videos's, click the more info button..)
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I saw this ROM, but it's on 1.5 Android. I found this on 2.1 android : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pY234Q_KQ , but with out backlights (

Youleck said:
I saw this ROM, but it's on 1.5 Android. I found this on 2.1 android : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pY234Q_KQ , but with out backlights (
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haha yeah i tried that one too and the animations for the clock widget are messed up lol in all honesty the G1 is gonna run hard with all the goodies your looking for so you might have to give up some of those features for it to run smooth... other than that i would use the zx2.1 possibly the best i used so far that has all the eye candy... but i recomend the one i posted earlier bcuz it will run a lil smoother without all the newer stuff like market and photo apk. jus my opinion..

ldrifta said:
uhhhmmm im not sure why that would be but i did notice some of the roms dont come with gmail on it so you may have to download the actual gmail app... if not than try reflashing.. because i didnt have that issue.. not sure if it is a huge difference but i also had the 28.25 radio not the 27.08.. also i know it sounds dumb but you actually do have to wait like 10 minutes after the service provider pops up when you first flash.. i recomend following the steps on the rom link exact!! but i know my google services worked when i had it so maybe jus try a reflash if its still not working... sorry for your trouble.. im gonna re flash the rom now so i can see if i find anything...
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Never mind and thank you for your suggestions.. sync of contact might be not a big issue for daily use as i saved my contact in SIM card already.
Maybe i will flash it again in this weekend...=]
P.S. sry for my poor english

andychan27 said:
Never mind and thank you for your suggestions.. sync of contact might be not a big issue for daily use as i saved my contact in SIM card already.
Maybe i will flash it again in this weekend...=]
P.S. sry for my poor english
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haha no problem.. my only question tho is if you have the actual gmail app? you might have to get the normal gapps in the market like maps and gmail.. i dont remember if there's a gapps pack with the rom but thats wat it sounds like to me.. anyway your welcome and happy flashing!!

Hello, sorry to everyone that has been reading this and followed my previous link. the best hero sense rom out there for the G1 at this time is here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183 if you MUST have Sense...
Note: you must be on latest radio, & hboot 2.22.28.07/25.28-1.33.0013d
the instructions may seem intimidating but i will leave links for every item you need here.. than just follow the instuctions exactly as follows..
1. enter recovery and wipe cache,data,system
2. Flash FR_Recovery_v1.5.6
3. Wipe cache,data,system
4. reboot but back into recovery
5. Flash Rom
6. Flash FR_BOOT
7. Reboot phone and enjoy ^
MTDpartmap- http://www.4shared.com/document/PG3DNFeX/mtdpartmap.html
Hero4.5fixed- http://www.4shared.com/file/IpGMuPwm/herov45_fixed.html
FR-Recovery- http://www.4shared.com/file/oqhzftJO/FR-recovery-v156-CustomMTD_S.html
FR-Boot- http://www.4shared.com/file/Ys5_L_SW/FR-boot-v157-CustomMTD_S.html

Updates!!??
hey xillius has been updating that hero rom if anyone's interested.. check up on his page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183 he's doing some great work to this rom don't forget to thank him..

need help
hi , im a newbie with all the sense roms Ive only flashed sense roms without the mtds because, the whole setup seemed hard and i couldn't figure it out could some one make a video or something id appreciate it. i would like to install the sense ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183
got an error followed steps on top but didn't work didnt know what to do with the mtd text help

jumpman707 said:
hi , im a newbie with all the sense roms Ive only flashed sense roms without the mtds because, the whole setup seemed hard and i couldn't figure it out could some one make a video or something id appreciate it. i would like to install the sense ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183
got an error followed steps on top but didn't work didnt know what to do with the mtd text help
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I think this rom didnt require MTD at all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574526
That's a 1.5(cupcake) rom not froyo,eclair,ginger,etc. But it's one of the best for the ol G1

jumpman707 said:
hi , im a newbie with all the sense roms Ive only flashed sense roms without the mtds because, the whole setup seemed hard and i couldn't figure it out could some one make a video or something id appreciate it. i would like to install the sense ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183
got an error followed steps on top but didn't work didnt know what to do with the mtd text help
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you already have 2.22.28.25 and 1.33.0013d? than its very simple ...
download these files
fr boot http://www.4shared.com/file/Ys5_L_SW/FR-boot-v157-CustomMTD_S.html
fr recovery http://www.4shared.com/file/oqhzftJO/FR-recovery-v156-CustomMTD_S.html
mtdtxt http://www.4shared.com/document/PG3DNFeX/mtdpartmap.html
superwipe http://www.4shared.com/file/svHOekxy/Ohsaka-SuperWipe_v2.html
put all these files on root of your sd card including the rom .zip file and follow the steps provided on the post
1. enter recovery and wipe cache,data,system
2. Flash FR_Recovery_v1.5.6
3. Wipe cache,data,system
4. reboot but back into recovery
5. Flash Rom
6. Flash FR_BOOT
17. Reboot phone and enjoy ^^
done
hope this helps

[Q] All NAND users need these answers

hi guys,
i have flashed only 30+ roms untill today but i still don't really know some answers? if somebody smarter than me can answer my questions below i will really appreciate. I tried to find the exact answers searching the forums but i was confused.
1. is it important which wm6.5 rom we had lastly flashed before we flash a nand rom?
2. is the radio important? (i read that radio 2.12... is better for battery life)
3. is "creating an ext4 partition with mini partition tool wizard" better than "partitioning sd card in rocovery menu during installation" ?
4. if i don't use a2sd or someting like that and only use my internel memory for apps, will my rom run faster and have better battery life?
5. the roms we install includes a kernel right? so should we install some other kernels for better performance, battery life etc..? what is the difference between the kernels ?
6. if i don't care how beautiful or good looking my rom interface is, which type of roms (sense, miui..) is better for battery life and performance.

kadirbeyaz said:
hi guys,
1. is it important which wm6.5 rom we had lastly flashed before we flash a nand rom?
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not at all
2. is the radio important? (i read that radio 2.12... is better for battery life)
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it must be a tmous radio = meaning it must support the 576mb hack on regular hd2, = meaning a radio that has 50 as teh third set of digits
2.15.50, , 2.12.50, 2.10.50 will work, 2.12.51 wont.
3. is "creating an ext4 partition with mini partition tool wizard" better than "partitioning sd card in rocovery menu during installation" ?
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no reason why it should be better. personal preference.
4. if i don't use a2sd or someting like that and only use my internel memory for apps, will my rom run faster and have better battery life?
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unlikely. certainly not anything noticeable.
6. if i don't care how beautiful or good looking my rom interface is, which type of roms (sense, miui..) is better for battery life and performance.
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cm7 > miui > sense or maybe miui > cm7 > sense, , , ,probably.

Just saying, your title is wrong. Most NAND users don't need these answers as they already know these answers by reading
Oh and for 5 (seeing as samsamuel either forgot or didn't know) you can install other kernels depending on the type of ROM you're on, but often it isn't really necessary. For example, on Typhoon CM7 I tried Dorimanx's kernel and really didn't notice any difference from the stock Tytung R14. I haven't tried many other kernels, and some will obviously have advantages over others, so I guess the only way to find out which is the best for your usage is by flashing all of the compatible ones you can find and using your phone as normal with those kernels for a day or so, and just figure out which is best through how fast they feel and using CurrentWidget to measure battery drain.

Nigeldg said:
(seeing as samsamuel either forgot or didn't know)
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hehe, , 100% didnt know, never changed a kernel, , iom still feeling my way slowly with android.

Thanks
Thanks for the answers.
i have one more question. i don't want to bother you, if you just have free time to answer.
i replaced the trobuchet launcher apk file with nova launcher.apk getting into the zip file/system/app folder and installed the rom. it worked well. so i wonder if i can change the phone.apk or others as the way i like . i will try anyway.

kadirbeyaz said:
Thanks for the answers.
i have one more question. i don't want to bother you, if you just have free time to answer.
i replaced the trobuchet launcher apk file with nova launcher.apk getting into the zip file/system/app folder and installed the rom. it worked well. so i wonder if i can change the phone.apk or others as the way i like . i will try anyway.
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I'm not certain but I think not. I use the app 'exDialer' and when you go to edit contacts or when you're in the in-call screen it uses the stock phone app, so if you remove the stock phone app I would think you wouldn't be able to use the phone/edit contacts. This is on CM7 btw, so I don't know about CM9 or AOKP.

Nigeldg said:
I'm not certain but I think not. I use the app 'exDialer' and when you go to edit contacts or when you're in the in-call screen it uses the stock phone app, so if you remove the stock phone app I would think you wouldn't be able to use the phone/edit contacts. This is on CM7 btw, so I don't know about CM9 or AOKP.
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you are right about ex dialer or similar dialer apps. they only change the interface and the phone.apk works at background for dialing someone, comunicating with the network operator and that kind of technical stuff. But if i try miui roms phone.apk or sense phone.apk instead, it may work fine. i just don't know if there is some other things to change in zip file which is about phone.apk

kadirbeyaz said:
you are right about ex dialer or similar dialer apps. they only change the interface and the phone.apk works at background for dialing someone, comunicating with the network operator and that kind of technical stuff. But if i try miui roms phone.apk or sense phone.apk instead, it may work fine. i just don't know if there is some other things to change in zip file which is about phone.apk
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I highly doubt either Sense or MIUI's dialers would work on any ROM other than a Sense or MIUI ROM. If that were the case, don't you think everyone would be replacing system apps with whichever app from whichever Android version/manufacturer skin they wanted? If I were you, I wouldn't even bother trying it out. All you'll end up having to do is reflash the ROM which would basically just be effort.