Why is it that Tmobile HD2 phones can use the 10 dollar internet in both winmo (custom rom) and android but us mytouch 3g users cannot even with a custom android rom? They were both branded by Tmobile and they know both of there imei numbers so why cant we use the 10 dollar interent after we flash a custom rom? They are also both HTC phones aswell. I have tried just about everything short of changing my imei and i know that every time you try and use cell data it sends your imei and stuff to make sure that you have the correct plan. So why is that an HD2 can use the 10 dollar internet but we cant?
I am also curious about this.
the simple answer is, because no one cares about WinMo phones.
look at their market now in the US.
tmo could care less really. EVEN ON ATT, all the smartphones with winmo can use their cheaper $15 data unlimited.
oh and for the record the ONLY TMOBILE BRANDED ANDROID phone that works with web2go and/or cheaper data plans from tmobile is the SAMSUNG BEHOLD 2.
no other will work, and you cant consider the nexus one a branded tmo pone.
and yes the imei is why they block it no matter if you flash the rom.
Shhh. dont tell anyone but you can isuse web2go if you know what you are doing... same way all us old dash users used the 5.99 tzones as SP data
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The Dash? My poor baby.
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I've searched everywhere for information but the web is full of outdated information or speculations, I just want to know if there are any android phones that will work with T-Mobile's Web2Go/T-Zones, like a non t-mobile android phone, has anyone tried this?
I don't mind modifying my phone if that can work I have a G1, if any1 knows how to get it to work on a G1 PM me please.
nope. I tried with both mytouch 3G and Nexus One (which tmobile does not officially carry)
They can tell you have an android Operating system regardless of the phone. Faking useragent didnt work. To get Tmobile data for android phones you need the android data plan. if you get it online its 30$, but if you call Tmoible and ask them they will give you it for 25$
guy above is very wrong.
I've been using a Nexus One with my 2.99 tzones for a while now.
I think the key is not buying a phone within the tmobile IMEI range. Since the N1 was sold directly by google and could work for both ATT and Tmo, it was outside of the range.
Maybe someone can confirm my reasoning but the Nexus One works great on tzones. I get 3g speeds easy
I use a T-Mobile prepaid SIM with an unlocked Samsung Captivate and it works just fine, although on EDGE not 3G. I get the T-Zones website where I can manage my account. T-Mobile has also recently added a option for 24-hour data at $1.49 and that works as well.
Best Android phone that works on tzones is a WM phone. HD2. Flash android on it and you've got a stable android phone rooted and unlocked that works on tzones. Been using it for about 2 months now and it is AWESOME. Great thing is, the HD2 is cheap on craigslist.
Tzones uses what ? Edge or 3g.
Wife has an hd2 I flashed a nand rom on it. Id like to know if for sure can switch out over to tzones and still get great speeds
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I've had the 5.99 t-mobile for years.. been through all my Moto and HTC phones starting with the first smartphone good ole MPX200 "when data was free!" not many phones at the time could even use web! 3G works great on my Nandroid HD2 currently.
N1 works on tzone. and yes, best phone that works best on tzone with 3g is the hd2 on android.
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Hi all
I Installed Android in my HTC HD2 and Its almost perfect but the only problem is it have to mobile data signal I tried every this with no result any one can help please ?
Sabobo0 said:
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I Installed Android in my HTC HD2 and Its almost perfect but the only problem is it have to mobile data signal I tried every this with no result any one can help please ?
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didya try changing your APNs?
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile_APNs
I have a rooted G1 with the latest CM rom.
I search and found a lot of old thread about using the $10 wireless plan for the G1. However I know it has been patched by T-Mobile.
My question is how can I get my G1 to work with the current T-Mobile $10 wireless plan (I believe 2G only)?
Thanks
The $10 is for Phone First devices only. It has nothing to do with limiting the handset to 2G services only as Tmobile offers many 3G handsets that can take advantage of that package.
Does anyone have an answer to this?
I have tmobile with the 9.99 plan and it works perfectly (on edge) with my jailbroken iphone.
I just switched to the g1 and it have been rooted and a custom hero rom is installed but I cannot get my internet to work. I have tried wap.voicestream.com, internet2.voicestream.com and internet3.voicestream.com with no luck. Is there any way around this?
not gonna work on any android phone
J.a.M said:
not gonna work on any android phone
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Thanks for the answer
Looks like I have to go back to my iphone.
Do you know if the data would work on AT&T or how about the prepaid Tmo plan?
I think ATT recently started ID'ing smartphones by the IMEI # and limiting them to data only plans. The orifices (http://tinyurl.com/33pnjj8) have there subsidy marketing model under attack and had to find a new scam.
Hello all, It sure nice to meet people in a new section of xda. My last phones have been a HTC tilt, HTC fuze, HTC pure.
I want to get this unlocked. The questions are, can I get a cheap unlimited menianet plan for a dumb phone and use it on this phone, butt will att know auto switch my pda plan if I am using a non att branded smartphone.
If I can't do that can I simple just remove data plan from the phone on att. I know att forces you to have a pda plan but since this will be a non att branded phone???
I was looking at the HTC aries butt got turned off when I heard att blocked none supported apps, so does this one block them as well?
Thanks.
doubt it. they only have rules on phones they're contracted to sell like iphones. i'm on att without a data plan. the att website doesn't even know i have a mytouch. they still think i have my old phone that i got from att.
wouldnt you be unable to get 3g if you use this phone?
if it's a t-mobile mytouch, then 3g will not work. a rogers mytouch from canada will get 3g on att, though.
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wouldnt you be unable to get 3g if you use this phone?
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My bad, I ment use the edge internet with the cheap o medianet unlimited plan.
Hey I'm gonna buy a tmobile HD2 from a friend of mine and I want to know if it can be use with AT&T.
Also do I haave to get a data plan with this phone?
Yes it can be used with AT&T but you will not get 3G speeds due to the specific bands the phone has.
I have an international HD2 and am using it on AT&T without data plan because AT&T does not have the IMEI for my phone in their database and thus cannot automatically add the smartphone plan. I'm not sure if they have the T-Mobile HD2 IMEIs.
I too have an international HD2 and am runing it on AT&T. You can't use the T-Mobile US one - the bandwidth doesn't work on AT&T only an international version will work.
I was going to say the same thing they said
You can use an Australian HD2 with AT&T and get 3G speeds. Mine works just fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633404
I am running an unlocked TmoUSA HD2 on AT&T and it works just fine. Other than the fact that I have no 3G with this on the AT&T network. I am very happy with the performance since I live in an area with no 3G coverage at all. I have to drive 15 miles to get into 3G coverage area.
Yeah Baaaby AT&T .... not!!
When in the hell is AT&T going to take expanding their 3G coverage areas seriously? I wonder what it feels like to be the AOL of the cellular world, all those customers and so little speed. This really sucks bigtime!
HTR
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Yes it can be used with AT&T but you will not get 3G speeds due to the specific bands the phone has.
I have an international HD2 and am using it on AT&T without data plan because AT&T does not have the IMEI for my phone in their database and thus cannot automatically add the smartphone plan. I'm not sure if they have the T-Mobile HD2 IMEIs.
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Do not put your AT&T sim card into a T-Mobile HD2. They will automatically "upgrade" your account to $30/month blackberry data. I had a $10/month unlimited that disappeared and I can't get it back now.
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Do not put your AT&T sim card into a T-Mobile HD2. They will automatically "upgrade" your account to $30/month blackberry data. I had a $10/month unlimited that disappeared and I can't get it back now.
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That is not true.
I've been using my HD2 on ATT for 2 months now and my plan has not changed at all.
sorry I didnt explain well. Im gonna buy an HD2 tmobile phone which is lock to only tmobile I think is there a way I can unlock it to use with ATT I dont wanna have a data plan I dont wanna have internet.
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sorry I didnt explain well. Im gonna buy an HD2 tmobile phone which is lock to only tmobile I think is there a way I can unlock it to use with ATT I dont wanna have a data plan I dont wanna have internet.
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Yes there is a way to unlock it.
eddym123 said:
sorry I didnt explain well. Im gonna buy an HD2 tmobile phone which is lock to only tmobile I think is there a way I can unlock it to use with ATT I dont wanna have a data plan I dont wanna have internet.
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I used a T-Mobile HD2 for 5 months on AT&T without any problems except for no 3G. I used the $10mo data plan and still am. I now use a Telstra HD2 and enjoy full 3G coverage on AT&T. Both HD2's are unlocked and yes, the AT&T sim works fine. Just don't walk in to their store and expect them not to hammer you with the $30 data plan.
There's a real nice fellow from Australia that sold me my 2 HD2's. Very honest and reasonable. If you want his eBay ID, anyone can PM me and I will forward it. Beware of other internet store sellers! Some are selling the same phones for $100+ more and some people have been either screwed out of their money or have gotten refurb/used phones. Honesty is in short supply these days so be careful.
I unlock it... Just call T-mobile and ask for the pin that was yesterday and today got it by email.
Now the phone is for my girlfriend and I she doesn't have any data plan and she doesn't want any....Can this be done? have the phone without any data plan on AT&T?
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I unlock it... Just call T-mobile and ask for the pin that was yesterday and today got it by email.
Now the phone is for my girlfriend and I she doesn't have any data plan and she doesn't want any....Can this be done? have the phone without any data plan on AT&T?
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if they happen to add it on there (by doing a maintenance sweep daily), give them a call and demand that they put DATA OPT-OUT on that line.
Thanks ill call before putting the don card in....I thought that it was mandatory with the phone.
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Thanks ill call before putting the don card in....I thought that it was mandatory with the phone.
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It IS mandatory, that applies to ANY smartphone. Whatever you do, DO NOT tell them you are using any smartphones. iPhones are all in their database since they were the exclusive dealers for them so it's impossible (as far as I know) to use an iPhone on AT&T without them nailing you for a $30 data plan since all the IMEI's are pre-loaded in AT&T's system. At least with the HD2's and other non-AT&T branded smartphones, they don't have the IMEI's and can't just hit you with the data plan.
It's in their contract, any smartphone use requires a data plan. Of course, they also hit you for a tethering fee as well for the privilege of using tethering (computer to smartphone connection) even though there's nothing special about it nor does it use the data service any differently. Just another way for AT&T to stick it to the consumer.
I was wondering if i can use unlocked tmobile htc hd2 with the $10 data plan (unlimited) that is available for non smartphones. Will tmobile realize that i am using htc hd2 and upgrade it to smartphone data plan? i am gonna make a contract with a non smartphone and add that 10 dollar data plan to use it on my htc hd2 Do you have to have an Unlocked htc hd2 (not tmobile branded) to do that? is it even possible either way?
Yes it is possible to do such a thing, but for how long is currently unknown. T-Mobile has recently started denying people using the non-smartphone internet with smartphones internet access as it is a violation of the TOS...so good luck!
So i can do it with the tmobile branded unlocked htc hd2? but dont they know that i i am using htc hd2 if i use the 10$ data plan and automatically upgrade it?
Yes they will know you are using an HD2, and yes, it is possible that they will upgrade it automatically. My advice; just opt for the 20USD unlimited smartphone data from the start...you won't have to setup the proxy or live in fear that your plan will be upgraded.
Isnt it 30 USD? if it was 20 then i can probably get the data plan but i am pretty sure the data plan is $30. Wait so if you dont get the $10 data plan on the tmobile branded unlocked htc hd2, will they know its a hd2?
There's no way to get around it. They will know what phone you're using. I do not know if they will make a change to your plan without confirming with you.
I don't know how you will actually enable the $10 plan in the first place though.
Thats a good point aswell. You have to have a device that supports the 10USD plan to even add it to your plan, so you may not be able to anyways. And the full internet is either 20 or 30 depending on your contract arrangement.
I recently got my phone and it's working for me. I get HSDPA speed with the $10 internet.
Yeah it should work.... just so you know you are defrauding the T-Mobile network. There's still a lot folks out there that are apparently still on the T-Zone plan as well....
Actually if you know or are familiar with those Asian run phone shops and ask nicely you don't even need a dumb phone to setup the $10 plan, the reps that work there will just call T-mobile and defraud the whole system for you.....
Yeah... that's just jolly.
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Yeah it should work.... just so you know you are defrauding the T-Mobile network. There's still a lot folks out there that are apparently still on the T-Zone plan as well....
Actually if you know or are familiar with those Asian run phone shops and ask nicely you don't even need a dumb phone to setup the $10 plan, the reps that work there will just call T-mobile and defraud the whole system for you.....
Yeah... that's just jolly.
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Does it really bother you that somebody else has a good deal going with t-zones on the HD2? If it makes you feel better, T-Mobile will probably be forcing users to upgrade their plans starting this Wednesday.
Yeah to me it kinda does, because they know they are screwing the system but continue to do it. Anyways I formally ask that this NOT turn into another debate about the morallity of people using the 10USD plan versus the correct one. Thanks.
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Does it really bother you that somebody else has a good deal going with t-zones on the HD2? If it makes you feel better, T-Mobile will probably be forcing users to upgrade their plans starting this Wednesday.
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Bother me, nope.? I don't even have data plan... i refuse to pay for it when i can get free wifi @ my home/campus/work....
The OP asked a question and i voiced his options, all of them.... whether he chooses to to take the dark route or not is his business. In addition i don't see how you can justify calling T-Zones as "has a good deal going" when you are in fact defrauding the network, which i have clearly pointed out in my previous response. My advice is pretty much borderline crack pot shady... but it's been discussed about here numerous times and t-mobile has done nothing to fix his loophole.... yet...
Just to add about the $20 internet plan. I have it for my HD2 (part of family plan), the rep added it when we were renewing the contract and ordering the phones (my sister got the 3G slide which came with the $25 plan). So if you want it, try calling them and talking to a rep, they should be able to add it for you (YMMV).
T-mobile can block you at any time since they do have a database of their own IMEIs and they know what device is accessing their network by it's IEMI that is transmitted every time the phone accesses the network.
It would be a very simple task for T-mobile to block the non supported devices for that data plan
Well here is what happend when I upgraded one of my lines. I just upgraded to an HD2, a couple days later theytossed on a 104 web plan. Which is fine cuz I want to use the web anyways. when I first was using my HD2 it said that it needed a subcription to access the web, blah blah. So, i changed the wap settings to internet2.voicestream.com and it works great. 3g speeds and everything.
Why did you change to the slower proxy?
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Why did you change to the slower proxy?
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The stock epc.tmo doesnt work when you have the 104 (non smart phone plan). The speeds are the same with the internet2 settings. unless you know of a different one that works a well. It works just fine.
I had a phone recently, Nokia 5530, and had the 10 dollar internet plan and I noticed depending where I was in the country I sometimes would get full internet access and other times I would get off the standard tzone areas and it would show subscription upgrade required message.
I think it might depend on where you live for this to work. Perhaps the WAP settings might also work.
There is a way to get the $10 t-zone plan on your HD2
Here is a simple way to get the t-zone on your HD2..
1) Login to your t-mobile account via the web.. register first if you haven't do so.
2) when you login, T-mobile might choose your phone (maybe HD2 already selected).. at this moment, change your phone to any non-smartphone.. like samsung T509 or any non-smartphone as your default phone.
3) go to change service and add the $10 t-zone internet to your plan
4) set your HD2 with the right APN setting you're OK.
5) For me, if you're using internet2.voicestream.com in Winmo works OK and in Android works OK.
This is a cheated way or gray area... Either way T-mobile make extra $$$ from you. I think T-mobile knows this loop hole, but they keep it open because they don't want to upset us cheapie????
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did they get rid of this? I do not see the option anymore.