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HELP!!! XDArit trashed my Firewire Harddrive...

I just tried to write to Rom using XDArit.exe selected my SanDisk USB drive to write to. I selected the .nb1 to use and made sure that I did not select the .nb0. Clicked Start or OK. And then I noticed my Firewire was being written to, not my SanDisk USB Drive even though it was selected.
My firewire drive had 2 partitions, the FAT32 for the first 2GB and NTFS for the remaining 58GB. All of my information was intact, but my partition table was corrupted and the first 32K of my FAT32. I dont care about my FAT32, but my NTFS is VERY IMPORTANT and I cannot get it back.
HELP!!!!!
Wade

Hi,
Yes, the same thing happened to my system drive using the old version of xdrit.
There is a new version available in the forum.
I hope you had a recent backup?
regards,
Silver

Oh ****...
We're aware some of our existing tools, XDArit being chief among them, are currently in the hands of a way, way, way too large audience. XDArit was written with a controlled geek audience in mind, and was tested on my PC and two or three others before 'release'.
We are working our asses off to correct this situation. Expect a changeover to a whole new set of tools soon. This new set of tools will be much more intuitive, user-friendly and idiot proof: no more people renaming files to something.nb0 and wasting their devices....
Please accept our apologies regarding the harddrive...

Hi Peter Poelman
For me it was not too bad because I had a new backup made just befor I used the tool.
Out of experience I take the "backup" thing serious.
So, apologies accepted.
You guys are doing a lot of excellent stuff here.
regards,
Silver

Yep - me too unfortunately - lost my entire 40GB of files on my Toshiba notebook!!! :evil:
Really wish there had been some further warning (or more thought put into the sw) for non-geek users about the possibility of killing your drives with xdarit!!! And to make matters even worse - my usual backup drive had developed a problem with the firewire interface so I hadn't backed most of the data up (although this is just my own stupid fault).
Moral: Live and learn!!

Whew! That was close. OK I lost my FAT32 which was the 1st 2GB of my drive. But I was able to recover my NTFS using this program:
http://www.acronis.com/products/recoveryexpert/
If I had data on my FAT32 I could have probably kept it, but I didn't. It looks like this program could have found my files and let me save them off, but it wasn't nessesary.
I was a little bummed that I had to buy the program, but I have often needed a program like it before so the price was not all that bad. I spent a lot more time and money just trying to find a utility like this one that I could perform disk edit and recovery.

can u use sd card for program memory?

hi, I'd like to know if you can use the sd card and say partition it so that you can make your xda exec device use the storage on it as programe memory so it speeds the device up. this really is a fab device, but it really lacks the memory capacity that I had on a blue angel.
I have a 1gb sd card and don't mind loosing any storage space to accomplish this. if there isn't a way, can someone try and find a reg tweek for this....
anyway, I leave it with you...
cheers.
joey jojo

I think this is something which should be taken as a clue by developers who make programs such as Memaid, Pocket Mechanic, etc and include this as a a feature. Maybe the concept will be something similar to the Virtual Memory on a regular windows pc.
You are absolutely right, I too really miss the shortage of program memory. I can never open a really complicated web page with lots of images in Netfront before I get the dreadful warning that I have run out of program memory.
I hope some developer picks this up and incorporates this as a feature. I am sure this will increase his sales many many times.
Regards

you can put your internet explorer's cache on the sd-card...
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders\Cache]
change cache from '\windows\profiles\guest\temporari internet files' to '\SD_MMCard' to achieve this...
however you'll notice that it only slows your device incredibly down if your SD-Card is not set up right
see also http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50301

There is just no way a third party program can add this. On the windows mobile team blog, there's a post from a few months back talking about doing virtual mem on the SD card, and basically, it's just not in the OS and won't be until at least WM6, and third-party programs can't do it.

JasperJanssen said:
There is just no way a third party program can add this. On the windows mobile team blog, there's a post from a few months back talking about doing virtual mem on the SD card, and basically, it's just not in the OS and won't be until at least WM6, and third-party programs can't do it.
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Those are very disappointing news...

Speaking of memory management and the OS itself..I really wonder during the development of WM5, did they try to come up with a better OS, or just building up upon WM2003.
Reason why I say this is my Universal crashed yesterday, and a look into the "Memory" panel in the Settings showed the OLD memory management screen along with the sliders and all... :lol:
Looks like the developers got lazy and just placed a panel on top of the old one :lol:

Ehh.. You guys want to be buying new SD cards every third month?
Flash memory like the SD cards have only a limited number of write operations before they fail.
Using them for storage is good, because you don't write to the cards that much.
Using them as memory would totally screw up the card in a rather short time.
And, I think using SD card for program memory would result in a slower application, because of the read/write speed of the SD compared to the RAM..
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3 months is just a figure of speach..
I have no idea of how much time it would take before failure occurs..
It would probably result in slower and slower performance, because some sectors would be worn out faster than others..

What you say about the writes before failure is right, but when you are faced with a £300 PDA that has the same amount of RAM as my little finger, you have to do something.
SD cards are cheap enough these days, and money grows on trees. I'd rather be able to leave programs open and not worry about how much it will slow the machine down to have more that three big apps running than I would be about coughing up for a new SD card every 3 months.
I have seen a 4GB card on Ebay for less than £80, Tescos sell 1GB for £30 these days.
The great thing about Tescos is their guarantee. You buy the card, write it to death, take it back for a full refund, no questions asked.

[Q] Remove WM7 and reinstall Windows 6.5 Tmobile(US)

My friend installed wm7 on my htc hd2. The original wm 6.5 is gone completely, he said. I don't know how to go back to the Tmobile(US) version. I am a beginner at this. PLEASE HELP me step by step. I am desperate!

Alright desperate guy.
Check this link out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976355
Post #3 and #4 should help you out.

This is probably a more simple explanation.
Disconnect phone and memory card.
Press-hold down button, and press the reset button under battery.
Tri-color bootloader screen appears.
Flash your regular Windows Mobile 6/6.1/6.5 ROM either stock/cooked
For the memory card, Windows Phone 7 Series formatted 200mb in FAT, and the rest is put into a RAID with the phone (basically coupling, to make it seem like one...bad explanation, but should suffice).
To get rid of this RAID configuration, you have to format the memory card. The built-in Windows formatter will not do the trick. Download FDisk or a similar program, and fix the memory card to be one partition for the entire thing.
Wallaa! Sweet Windows Mobile is back!
Geez....Windows Mobile Sense is still the best looking Sense UI. What happened to the classiness? *snicker* Android */snicker*

neoslan said:
This is probably a more simple explanation.
Disconnect phone and memory card.
Press-hold down button, and press the reset button under battery.
Tri-color bootloader screen appears.
Flash your regular Windows Mobile 6/6.1/6.5 ROM either stock/cooked
For the memory card, Windows Phone 7 Series formatted 200mb in FAT, and the rest is put into a RAID with the phone (basically coupling, to make it seem like one...bad explanation, but should suffice).
To get rid of this RAID configuration, you have to format the memory card. The built-in Windows formatter will not do the trick. Download FDisk or a similar program, and fix the memory card to be one partition for the entire thing.
Wallaa! Sweet Windows Mobile is back!
Geez....Windows Mobile Sense is still the best looking Sense UI. What happened to the classiness? *snicker* Android */snicker*
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Software RAID 0, basically which extends the phone partition(s) onto the card, as you said. From a data integrity perspective, it's a pointless method of storing data, especially in computers. For the phone, if the card's FS corrupts, you'll probably need to reset the phone back to factory settings. For computers, it's a little more complicated. It involves two or more hard drives, stringing them together to act as one big drive with combined capacity. If one goes bad, you're f*cked and everything is lost because the data is spread across all of them.
Also, to reformat the card correctly, the easiest way is to pop it into a digital camera and do a low-level format, if you have one.

[Q] [QUESTION] SD card and Android

Before I posted this, I did some searches, did some reading, and then hit myself with a big stick repeatedly for you just to get that out of the way!
First, I am old.
Second, I am new to the smart phones.
I have a HTC HD2 from T-Mobile. I was not able to get into the Android Market, and was wondering what I was doing wrong. First thing I read was about a SD card. I looked, and, Nope no SD card. So I will be going to pick one up tomorrow, what size would be best? Then I read about moving the Android file to the SD card. I looked and could not find a Android File. Hmmmmm. If there is a Android File, where would it be?
Here are the stats for my phone, maybe I can't load Android, I don't know.
It has Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional,
the OS Version is 5.2.21913,
Manial version is 2.5.20181424.0
ROM version is 3.14.531.1 WWE
ROM Date is 09/29/2010
Radio Version 2.15.50.14
Protocol version is 15.42.50.11U
I really like the phone, but thought it would be nice to get some nice apps from the android store. Any help, and advice is more than welcome Just don't tell me to sell the HTC and buy a Jitterbug phone!!
Thanks again, Bob

TMO US or EU?

This is the US version my carrier is T-Mobile.

to speak about what a good sd card it would really be useful if we knew how you use your phone. if you store a lot of files/folders/pics/roms etc on your sd card and transfer them often to your computer i would suggest buying a 8gb class 6 or higher but if you dont store a ton of info on your sd card and dont transfer your files over often you could get away with a 4gb class 2-4. you can get them on ebay really cheap, i found a 8gb class 10 for under $15 but if you buy a sd card off ebay make sure you test the card because there are a lot of sellers out there that have a memory hack which will make the sd card say its a 8gb when really its only a 3-4gb. i have not had that problem with any name brand like sandisk, trancend, pny, kingston or samsung.

Thanks for the info.

talking about apps i would start with appmonster..free on the market. it will backup your apks onto your sd card which i find very useful.
1 way i find cool apps is by looking at some of the icon requests. people wouldnt request an icon for something they dont find useful so i think thats a good starting point. another way is by going to the market on your pc, found here. i like it a lot better because i feel you can view it better, quicker plus you can hit the install button and it will install it directly to your phone.
i could give a breif list of some apps i like but what i like and what you like may differ greatly. there are apps that suggest other apps based on what you have installed but right this second i cant remember the name. i will try & find out and edit this post when i do.

AppAware found here
Appsfire found here
Best Apps Market found here
all of these apps will show you some of the best apps found on the market. it can be a bug to sort through some apps that are really a waste of space.

Bob Davis said:
Before I posted this, I did some searches, did some reading, and then hit myself with a big stick repeatedly for you just to get that out of the way!
First, I am old.
Second, I am new to the smart phones.
I have a HTC HD2 from T-Mobile. I was not able to get into the Android Market, and was wondering what I was doing wrong. First thing I read was about a SD card. I looked, and, Nope no SD card. So I will be going to pick one up tomorrow, what size would be best? Then I read about moving the Android file to the SD card. I looked and could not find a Android File. Hmmmmm. If there is a Android File, where would it be?
Here are the stats for my phone, maybe I can't load Android, I don't know.
It has Windows Mobile 6.5 Professional,
the OS Version is 5.2.21913,
Manial version is 2.5.20181424.0
ROM version is 3.14.531.1 WWE
ROM Date is 09/29/2010
Radio Version 2.15.50.14
Protocol version is 15.42.50.11U
I really like the phone, but thought it would be nice to get some nice apps from the android store. Any help, and advice is more than welcome Just don't tell me to sell the HTC and buy a Jitterbug phone!!
Thanks again, Bob
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Hiya Bob,
...a Jitterbug phone, huh? I think you're even older than me. As long as you're not too old to learn a few new tricks then... you shouldn't have any problems. You're going to have to have some patience and take your time if, by your own admission... you're new to smartphones. You have A LOT of reading to do.
If I'm understanding this correctly - You don't have an Android phone yet. You have a stock (as opposed to customized) T-Mobile HD2. It natively runs WM6.5, and ships with an eight or sixteen MB SD card already installed. It's not an Android phone. YOU would have to install the Android OS onto the phone first. No wonder you didn't have access to the Android market. If you're in the USA - your HD2 would have had the Transformers movies, and a number of demo WM apps & games, installed on the SD card. The fact that you don't have an SD card installed doesn't really matter. I would guess you bought yours pre-owned from some idiot who kept the card and didn't provide a copy.
(as an aside), I bought my USA HD2 pre-owned also. The seller (I'm guessing) kept the 16MB card, but at least he provided a 8MB card with all the files copied over. --- You're not missing anything that you can't get back. Much of it 'junk' but the movies are pretty cool.
I see you've already had some reco's on what to buy for an SD. Depending upon your media needs, I'd suggest at least, an 8MB card. I replaced mine with a 16MB class 4 card. It's working well.
Personally... I flashed my own HD2 with one of the custom WM6.5.x ROMs on this site. It's far better than the stock phones ROM. The only thing that can't run is the Blockbuster app (for silly reasons I can't get into here). What I really wanted was to be able to run the Netflix app... and this was accomplished by installing one of the Android SD ROM versions. It took me some time and research to understand just how... but it's all do-able.
I'm assuming you're going to keep your HD2 as a Windows mobile phone (although you don't necessarily have to). You could flash your HD2 with an Android NAND ROM... but that would wipeout Windows Mobile, and I wouldn't suggest that route for you just yet. Installing Android on an SD card isn't difficult... and it works a trick! But you do have some reading to do. Have fun with it. -Rob

Thanks for the reply Rob, Yes, I am new to smart phones, but am open to learning. I got the phone through T-Mobile, it was a refurb unit, and there was no SD card. It did have the Transformer movies on it.
I will be picking up a SD card probably tomorrow, I will be going with a 16MB.
So from what I have understood so far, is that the phone is not a android, and currently runs on a windows platform. So could I install Android on the SD card and keep windows also? What system would be running? I guess there is a lot to learn, but I am recently retired, and have nothing but time. If you have anything you suggest I should read, let me know.
Bob

thats correct, its winmo by default. i would take a look at this post which will explain all you need to know about flashing android to your htc hd2. also you can install RunDroid found here which will allow you to dualboot into either winmo or android from your sd.

Bob Davis said:
Thanks for the reply Rob, Yes, I am new to smart phones, but am open to learning. I got the phone through T-Mobile, it was a refurb unit, and there was no SD card. It did have the Transformer movies on it.
I will be picking up a SD card probably tomorrow, I will be going with a 16MB.
So from what I have understood so far, is that the phone is not a android, and currently runs on a windows platform. So could I install Android on the SD card and keep windows also? What system would be running? I guess there is a lot to learn, but I am recently retired, and have nothing but time. If you have anything you suggest I should read, let me know.
Bob
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(I'm guessing again - and I'm curious), If you see an icon in the Start Menu for Transformers... that's only a link to open the movies... that's not actually the movies themselves... but see for yourself. Click the link. What happens? The movies themselves are 1.3 and 1.4GB (gigabytes) and are stored on the SD card. If you have no SD card from TMOUS, where are the actual movie files? In RAM? In ROM? I don't think so... Let me know.
I'm a long time WM user and I won't yet give up WM6.5. I like it a lot and need it. I still activesync everything with my Outlook desktop, running XP on the PC. I haven't yet migrated to Windows 7 (and don't plan to for a while). WP7 on the handheld doesn't do it for me, but I wanted to try Android.
It IS very different from WM, and I'm still not entirely comfortable with it but I am comfortable with technology and so it's an ongoing somewhat fun learning experience. Android DOES have some strong advantages...
I think (guessing again - but I'm pretty certain) that Android would be at its absolute best running from NAND... but then, goodbye WM. And I'm not willing to completely rely on Android for my needs. Besides, I really do enjoy having my HD2 be a WM phone AND an Android phone, depending upon what I choose to do ATM. So if like me... you're unwilling to completely give up windows mobile, your only choice would be to run it from the SD card. I can only suggest that you start reading the Android subforums; specifically the HD2 Android SD Development forum.
Android would boot via Magldr or via a dual boot program like Exceller (which I use), from inside of windows mobile... you'll have to read-up on these things. Speed isn't a problem. It runs very well & fast. The only downside to SD is that battery life isn't the greatest. But so what? Get yourself one or two spare batteries. The upside is that you have two OS's... you get to have your cake and eat it too (if you know what I mean).
Rob

Thanks for the links, the Dualboot is what I thought might be involved. I will start reading in the morning!

Rob,
When I first got my HD2, I had it for about four months, and started having some issues with it. I had watched the movies on it, but when I sent it back I must have sent the SD card with it. I am new to this remember!! When I try to bring the movie up it says file not found. Surprise, it was on the SD card.
I will keep windows also, and run the Android on the SD card. I don't do a lot of fancy stuff on my HD2, but am still learning.
Bob

also with RunDroid you can keep many different android (sd) roms on your sd card and can choose at random which android you would like to boot. i would check out this link, it will show you all the android roms found here on XDA. i find it a lot more easier to look at instead of trying to go through countless pages and reading about each rom. the link will give you some basic info about each one like if its a sd or nand version, when it was posted/updated, if it has sence or not & some other info that could be useful.

htccraze said:
also with RunDroid you can keep many different android (sd) roms on your sd card and can choose at random which android you would like to boot. i would check out this link, it will show you all the android roms found here on XDA. i find it a lot more easier to look at instead of trying to go through countless pages and reading about each rom. the link will give you some basic info about each one like if its a sd or nand version, when it was posted/updated, if it has sence or not & some other info that could be useful.
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+1 (what I used) Great suggestion!

Thanks, The reading will start today, it may take some time, but I feel I will get there.

...and just a clarification. I'd also used HTC HD2 Android Roms/Builds, as a good place to compare and research different Android offerings. Ultimately, I went with what appeared to be the most widely used SD ROM. I don't know if it's the best one (that's always a personal choice born of trial and experience)... but it seems to work well. Honestly, I'm just getting my feet wet with Android. Not yet up to running multiple OS's on my card... maybe one of these days, so haven't yet tried Rundroid. I have flashed a number of different WM 6.5 roms. For me, WM is easy. I'm finding Android - on the surface, a lot of fun, but under the hood... I'm still somewhat dazed and confused.

All the links and suggestions have been a big help, I am still reading at this point. One other question I have is, when I start to install the Android ROM, if I screw up can I still just do a hard reset to be able to start over? I don't really have anything on the phone other than phone numbers. Basicly I have been using it as a phone, and light internet news browsing.
Thanks!

Bob Davis said:
All the links and suggestions have been a big help, I am still reading at this point. One other question I have is, when I start to install the Android ROM, if I screw up can I still just do a hard reset to be able to start over? I don't really have anything on the phone other than phone numbers. Basically I have been using it as a phone, and light internet news browsing.
Thanks!
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ROM's on the SD card, installation is on the SD card, so don't worry about hard resetting the phone... and even if you had to, it's all pretty easy. No worries. Read-up on dual booting and format the card prior to starting the process.

Thanks Rob, just got back from picking up a SD card, wound up getting a 8MB, no 16's in the store. Do I format the card on the phone or my PC? I assume the phone.

Windows 3.1

I wasn't sure where to put this but oh well, if it shouldn't be here a mod can move it
Anyway I just wanted to say, I managed to install windows 3.1 on my tab through dosbox with the original windows setup files. There isn't much use for it but it works fine and can install old dos games. I am going to try the same process for windows 95, now that would be cool. I read it has been done on android. But will have to see after I extract the win 95 setup files.
Also if anybody asks the question what is the point of doing that?
The answer is because I can and I want to ;-)

Cool. I'd like to see XP installed if at all possible after you attempt 95 (and succeed at it) .

Xp would be impossible really. Not by any meens I am aware of anyway. Pretty sure I can get 95 working. Still trying to find a working win95 image. All the .img files I have tried are missing the boot file. I am about to start looking again Also win 98 may be possible, sombody managed to boot it on another android device (can't remember what it was) but it was so laggy it was un useable but with the tab 10.1's power maybe it could work. Don't know though, it wasn't run through dosbox anyway.

Well done. It would have been slightly more impressive if you managed to install it off original floppies!

beta546 said:
Xp would be impossible really. Not by any meens I am aware of anyway. Pretty sure I can get 95 working. Still trying to find a working win95 image. All the .img files I have tried are missing the boot file. I am about to start looking again Also win 98 may be possible, sombody managed to boot it on another android device (can't remember what it was) but it was so laggy it was un useable but with the tab 10.1's power maybe it could work. Don't know though, it wasn't run through dosbox anyway.
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It was a Samsung Moment, oddly enough, if I remember right.

Not sure. It has been done on nokias n900, psp and ps3. I have managed to get win 95 working on my tab but all from an image and not with dosbox so can't access my own files like I can on win 3.1. I also got windows 3.11 going in dos box wich is a bit better than 3.1 with a few improvements. For 95 I used files for another android phone and it uses libsdl to load the image of 95, but like I say that way I can't access my sd card through 95, but if I get it going in dosbox my sd is mounted as the hdd. I think I can extract the image and add things too it like game files and stuff. If anybody wants to run 3.11 or 95 on there tab I can post links and files but just so you know %95 of it is other people's work, I just got it going on the tab, 3.11 was a bit harder as it wouldnt boot on it's own in dos box so had to merge the 3.11 windows folder with my 3.1 folder and then it worked Installing 3.1 was crazy cos it takes you though the old windows install just like a pc and installs the windows folder on sd then you boot from that in dosbox using the win.com file. Anyway it's just a bit of fun and it's keeping me occupied so if anybody wants to play around I can tell you how. Don't know if I can post windows files here though, anybody know the score on that? I am pretty sure 3.1 and 95 are considderd abandonware as it would be impossible to purchase them from microsoft, I had bough them many years ago so technically I own the license to them so can download them legally

I had Win98 (I think) running on my Nexus One, it's a fun gimick.
Would be better on the GTab.

Yeah 95 and 98 will work fine just dosbox can't mount the sd as a drive when using the boot cmd so nothing can be installed unless I can unpack the .img file and add stuff, still haven't got to my computer yet to try 3.1 is fully functional as it runs inside dos box , the sd is mounted as the file system so you can navigate through windows to install old dos games and 3.1 apps

GalaxyNinja said:
Well done. It would have been slightly more impressive if you managed to install it off original floppies!
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Difficult seeing the lack of a 3.5 floppy drive on the tab!
Anyway the floppies didn't contain windows, just the boot files and drivers to use the cd rom.

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Have a nice day.

BoulderGeek said:
I used to have to install Windows 3.1 and office with a pile of 80 floppy disks.
I think of Win3.1 as only slightly less attractive than those partial birth abortion posters the clinic bombers harass people with. That kruft needs to stay dead and buried.
Kudos for the technical chops, but I want all Windows zombies to die harsh deaths.
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Lol. Nice image. But if you ain't got anything interesting to post then don't bother. So what if 3.1 and 95 are old and crappy. That's not the point. The point is Android lets us do so much stuff and it is always good to find out what our devices can do. *****ing and slagging somthing off is just stupid. The whole idea od these forums is so people can stretch the linits of of there phones and tablets. Yes running 3.1 isn't exactly stretching the 10.1's power but being able to install and run windows on android is pretty crazy. I only started this thread to tell people about it. It was just a little project for me cos wanted to play some of the ganes I did when I was young.
Not interested in starting an argument but nobody wants to see comments like that!

Edited due to an inability to communicate my original intent.
Good for you.

BoulderGeek said:
Edited due to an inability to communicate my original intent.
Good for you.
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No point trying to sound clever after talking about aborted babys like that!

beta546 said:
No point trying to sound clever after talking about aborted babys like that!
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Stfu, troll. You should be aborted. your inability to read disqualifies you.
Eat a bowl of dicks.
Posted from a BAMF 'Bolt running Skyraider Zeus.

Lol
Originally Posted by BoulderGeek
I used to have to install Windows 3.1 and office with a pile of 80 floppy disks.
I think of Win3.1 as only slightly less attractive than those partial birth abortion posters the clinic bombers harass people with. That kruft needs to stay dead and buried.
Kudos for the technical chops, but I want all Windows zombies to die harsh deaths.
Which part of that have I misunderstood?!?!