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Hi guys, got my xda exec and been looking on this board for any improvements i can make to it. Done a hard reset a couple of times and not really noticed a big difference between Basic and Corporate installs.
One of my questions is around the movies though, download some movies off the net as normal xvid movies. Play them on my pda and they do jerk quite a bit, has anyone played around and found a max bit rate etc that videos play really well at? Also, when i'm using tcpmp player is it true VGA or just upscaled to VGA?
Another question, i installed OzVGA with the vga packs on here and the effect in IE is amazing, I'll keep it just for that but my personal opinon is that the text is just TOO small for the today screen. One problem i got though is that my delete key on the keyboard stopped working. Anyone else experiance this?
Also one final thing, going to be using this as my work phone (obviously) any REALLY usefull additional software i could get. I am aware that i want to keep things at a minimum, will be driving for about an hour each morning and night for work so plenty of time doing nothing in the car (well paying attention to the road i guess!!)
Look forward to your responses.
Ian Hardy
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Also one final thing, going to be using this as my work phone (obviously) any REALLY usefull additional software i could get. I am aware that i want to keep things at a minimum, will be driving for about an hour each morning and night for work so plenty of time doing nothing in the car (well paying attention to the road i guess!!)
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Thought about OZVGA, but holding off for now, although I'd love smaller text on my start menu, and smaller soft buttons at the bottom - already installed thinner scrollbars, which works well.
I'm on BASIC mode, because I'm a happy O2 customer, and didn't relish setting up MMS, GPRS etc on it... O2 Active is well uninstalled - who needs a useless interface on top of the good one we got already?
Using TCPMP for movies, getting them smooth. They all look well too. No more re-encoding necessary.
Had to play with settings to stop them pausing and loading every 15 seconds, but works well now - only streaming them over wifi makes them a little jerky, but not so much that it would annoy you - streaming al my music and movies from my PC downstairs at night is wonderful.
In terms of additional software, the Resco Media Suite is magnificent, all of it, Pocket Music is lovely, MS Voice Command will be fantastic when it's fully compatible, the VGA version of Ozi Explorer works a treat, Arvale II is good, Bejewelled is addictive, Egress is a great RSS Reader, GSPocketMagic is a must, Links plays well, Memmaid is well useful, MySportTraining is wonderfully motivating, Pocket Informant is still too slow, SCUMM brings the years back, SpriteBackup is now working, and Tennis Addict is as good as ever.
Also bought a GPS program, most expensive PDA product I've ever had, Prymenav Navigator it's called (used it on the JAM, not yet on the Exec), but it just doesn't play that well - horrible interface, not user friendly, some essential features missing. Works though. But sorry I bought it. No more penny pinching in future!
thanks for replying so quickly, can you give me some info on what settings you changed to make the movies run so smoothly as i'm forever getting that 15 sec pause thing. Can be quite frustrating when i'm in the middle of a good film.
Thanks again.
Ian
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thanks for replying so quickly, can you give me some info on what settings you changed to make the movies run so smoothly as i'm forever getting that 15 sec pause thing. Can be quite frustrating when i'm in the middle of a good film.
Thanks again.
Ian
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Video/Smooth Zoom (only 50%)
Video/No dither
Video/Video Driver/DirectDraw
No Equalizer
(Hey - TCPMP is reporting my speed as a 104Mhz PXA27x?)
Auto prerotate
NO Microdrive mode
Normal Buffer size 2400KB, Preload at underrun 70%
Don't tick the following:
"no wireless MMX usage"
"Slow video memeory"
"Less rotation tearing"
"Prefer less bufering..."
"Override AVI frame.."
soft-drop tolerance is 55msec
hard is 700ms
tick "use blitting" and use device stret6cing"
untick "use hardware vertical zooming"
tick "use buffer flipping" and "allocate buffers"
Haven't a clue which of those is the golden settingmaking it all work, but those work for me!
I was just playing around with the transition effects in Ultimate Launcher, and I was thinking how cool it would be to have an ebook reader that was finger friendly (slide to turn page) and used the same transitions for page turns. I imagine you could just slide your finger across the screen and the page would curl and turn, or fade, or whatever effect you choose. I have no programming skills at all, and maybe I'm the only one who'd be interested in this, but it sure seemed like a cool idea.
I like the sound of that!!
There are all too few really good e-book apps out there. I would love something that would in corporate this. Why stop at turning the page? Why not use the gestures from HTC Album. For example to turn the page slide left or right, to change between landscape and portrait reading use the rotate gesture from HTC Album, maybe even zoom in and out using HTC Albums zoom in out gesture.
Good idea, wish I had the skill to get the ball rolling???!!!
diigibio
Also sounds like a good idea to me. Right now I used Microsoft reader but it's far from the best solution.
Picsel Proview
today i use picsel Proview.. to see documents (and .pdf)
it uses zoom capabilities... but there´s no such thingie like transition effects. AND its a memory hog.
it would be nice if A_C come with this.. using the S2* API.
omg.. this make sloth happy!
=P~
For ebooks, i use mostly Mobipocket reader - desktop version can import from a few popular formats (pdf, html, txt. Rtf and doc need MS office to be installed :/ )and create ebooks in its own format, which then can be sent to your phone/pda. It supports turning the page forward/back by touching the right/left edge of the screen, so you can read without using stylus or dpad. However if you want to open another book, you'll probably still need to use the stylus, or at least a fingernail
But something with more finger-friendly interface (especially for opening files) like S2V, iContact of pocketCM would be nice. And of course some cool transition effects wouldn't hurt too
Maybe we should ask A_C to create another good program from "Slide2" Series
and call it Slide2Read S2R ...!!!!
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Maybe we should ask A_C to create another good program from "Slide2" Series
and call it Slide2Read S2R ...!!!!
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A_C read this.. please
I really wish I had any skill at coding and could do this myself. I think it would be a cool program. There probably just isn't enough demand to make it worth anybody's time. It was a nice idea though...
has someone here gotten the Microsoft Reader to work on WM6 ?
I have a few ebooks here that i'd like to read...
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has someone here gotten the Microsoft Reader to work on WM6 ?
I have a few ebooks here that i'd like to read...
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YEP, it works fine
Is there a version or mod of Microsoft Reader that works with 6.5.3? One that is finger-friendly.
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Is there a version or mod of Microsoft Reader that works with 6.5.3? One that is finger-friendly.
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not tht i could find one. i hunted lots
but then u can get it to wrk...its a pain to press the buttons at the bottom (showing page nos.) but once u get a hang of things, it aint tht bad. Currently reading PERFUME: STORY OF A MURDERER.....but then i wish the reader behaved better
u can also get this DVOLPAD (some name like tht) to read. It turns the volume keys into page up page down buttons....helps with MS Reader
Many many moons ago I initiated a thread telling all of the impending sale of my Ameo, and my reasons for doing so. Since then I have owned umpteen handsets including a Toshiba Portege G900, Nokia E90, Tytn ii, HTC Touch Diamond and finally (to my own surprise) an Iphone 3G.
I recall an overbearing distaste for the Iphone and its supposed lack of a software scene, however it seems that times have changed: the iPhone, for all its flaws now has a huge modding scene and an almost limitless array of applications to cover all of Apple's oversights. For what it's worth the iPhone is the most enjoyable handset I have ever used.
Now here's the thing.
I've been offered a very good price for my Iphone and have recently acquired an INCREDIBLY cheap HTC ADVANTAGE. From the quick look at these forums I've had there seem to have been some great developments and I WANT to fall back in love with the Advantage (though I accept that the device is in itself a completely different handset!)
I suppose on a deeper level I want to know if windows mobile can offer me the solutions that I have on my Iphone and enjoy every day. Obviously each device has HARDWARE differences that can never be changed - the Advantage will never have multitouch just as the iPhone will never have a VGA display; but considering the HUGE software library Windows Mobile supposedly offers can it provide solutions to the following tasks....
Google Contacts OTA sync - with Gsync I can synchronize my contacts every day and ensure I never lose a number. This also updates my contact photos stored on Google's servers. I don't use Outlook, never have never will and want a simple over the air solution.
Podcasts. With Mobilecast on the iPhone I can search for an download podcasts which download in the background and update as and when new shows arrive. It supports both video and audio podcasts.
YouTube downloader - allows the download of high quality YouTube videos to keep and supports multiple simultaneous downloads.
Email with properly formatted HTML support. I recall the Windows Mobile html email client displaying weirdly formatted and ugly messages, shifted to one side/ I will happily pay for a replacement email client if it is as beautiful and useable as the Iphone's.
Browser - the iPhone's browser is far from perfect, but I'm able to happily type out a new thread on Safari right now. I recall many problems with the Touch Diamond's Opera browser - most irritatingly the cursor moving back in the paragraph you're typing for no reason. Have most of the flaws with Opera Mobile been resolved? Is it now better than the iphone's Safari browser?
That's pretty much my list. They might seem pretty banal but they make me enjoy my iPhone, and if I can get the Advantage to do all those things then I'll probably sell up. I'm not worried about the size of the Advantage.
Hi Leoni,
Good to hear from you again after such a long period of absence.
I still give the same advice: define your requirements first, and be comprehensive in doing so.
- Do you need navigation software? If yes, iPhone is out, Athena is in.
- Do you want hugh screen and not mind the size? If yes, Athena has a tick.
- Do you do word, excel, and power point, or at least often receive attachment of such and want to read them on the device? If yes, iPhone is out, Athena is in.
- Could you tolerate weak signal strength? If no, iPhone is out.
- Do you have the habit of using handwriting recognition, or write Chinese/Japanese/Korean characters? If yes, iPhone is out.
- Do you want to use the GPS for traking, or prolonged use without access to power source? If yes, iPhone is out, as you can't swap in spare battery.
- Do you a extremely fussy person in wanting really really smooth video playback? If yes, consider iPhone. However, if you'r willing to wait, Coreplayer is going to address this issue very very shortly and poor video playout is likely to be history.
- Do you placed lots of value in internet browsing wihtout having to zoom in and out? If yes, nothing beats Athena. But Opera Mobile would never be as smooth as Safari. As to your questions on typing using Opera, it depends on which version you use. You need to try out all of them to see the difference.
- Are you a fashion conscious person who want to be "cool". If so, iPhone is a cool looking phone, but so is HTC Touch HD (Which I have just bought).
- Do you do presentation as required by your work? If yes, HTC Touch HD is out, and Athena is in, because HD does not have TV-out. Although iPhone has TV out, it does not have presentation software, so iPhone is also out.
- Do you want FM radio? If so, consider Touch HD.
- Do you want good camera (say 10MP camera) and video recording? If so, consider Samsung SBH B600.
You get the idea... You need to know what your requirements are, then gather information to see if your target phones meet your need.
Yes, a lot has changed for the better in Athena since you last left it, but there are still many areas which are unchanged. You could post all your specific question after you've considered your requirements, and we'll be very happy to answer your questions. You have already posted some of those question, but it's a good idea to think more comprehensively to make sure you cover all aspects of your needs.
I may not be able to answer some of the questions as your needs are different from mine, but I'm sure others would respond to your questions.
Cheers.
Hi Eaglesteve - I had a feeling you'd be in here - good to hear from you.
My circumstances are that I already have an iPhone and have an Advantage coming in the post today. I'm not after turning the Advantage into an iPhone, simply wondering if there are one or two bits of software which would sell the idea of keeping the Advantage to me.
I'm surprised you'd go for the Touch HD Eaglesteve as its screen is quite a bit smaller than that of the Advantage. The device does interest me, although its price is more than the combined costs of my iPhone and Advantage! I wonder if I'd just be better off keeping two devices once again. What are your feelings on the HD versus the Advantage? How does the overall responsiveness and also audio and video performance compare with the Advantage?
Regards
Check this out: http://www.goosync.com/
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Check this out: http://www.goosync.com/
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Hi thanks for that. Unfortunately you have to pay, and 20 quid seems a rip-off considering I'd only be syncing my contacts. The solution I have for Iphone cost me £1 or something like that.
I'm seriously thinking of just throwing my Advantage straight onto Ebay. Windows Mobile doesn't seem to have the scope of free software it once had. I don't think the idea of free (or very cheap) Google contacts sync software is that ridiculous an idea - certainly it's enough of an issue for more than one iPhone developer to come up with free or cheap solutions. I bought the Advantage because it was cheap and i thought it would be something fun to play around with but I seem to have made a poor decision.
If every little solution costs me £20 then I'm going to be severely out of pocket by the end of the week!
It don't sync with google but....
Sync = www.dashwire.com is the best over the air sync up I've used. Photos, videos, contacts, photocontacts, emails and txt for free! Also snap2face (free) facebook app can sync up with your facebook contacts images too.
Rss video and audio = Beyondpod 3.0 (free) brilliant software. Use this in conjunction with Mort's Player and the Mypod skin (free). You won't look back with a 16GB SDMicro (w/adapter) in your advantage.
Browser = Netfront or even better Skyfire if you can get it. Netfront has so many different configs that you should be happy with one or two.
Email = I get by with outlook as any major media mails I get tend to need my home pc!
I don't download youtube vids but do use vTap as the wikipedia side of it is cool.
I tried to replace my Athena with an iphone and failed by a long way. I'll be using this Ameo for a couple of years I think. (Unless the 4g HTC Max kicks ass)
The one thing I would recommend is putting MichyPrima's 5.1 rom it as it is so damn rock solid and just works so good. All the sensors work with the new 'G' software knocking about and I have only hard reset once to clear out a couple of programs.
Long live the X7500. Best comms device I have owned, by a mile.
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Hi Eaglesteve - I had a feeling you'd be in here - good to hear from you.
My circumstances are that I already have an iPhone and have an Advantage coming in the post today. I'm not after turning the Advantage into an iPhone, simply wondering if there are one or two bits of software which would sell the idea of keeping the Advantage to me.
I'm surprised you'd go for the Touch HD Eaglesteve as its screen is quite a bit smaller than that of the Advantage. The device does interest me, although its price is more than the combined costs of my iPhone and Advantage! I wonder if I'd just be better off keeping two devices once again. What are your feelings on the HD versus the Advantage? How does the overall responsiveness and also audio and video performance compare with the Advantage?
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As for software for Athena, you should always have FtouchSL, Wktask and the like. But I'd strongly recommend SPB Mobile Shell as one of the most transforming software IMO. Not only it is finger friendly, it will also enhance the camera function, puts all the Opera mobile history and favoutries on the launch menu, but also give you lots of useful tools. Don't forget the latest Resco File Explorer and Registry editor. Of course Opera Mobile is a must, but you need to experiement with the various version to find out which is suits you. I find surfing with Opera mobile on Athena to be way way better than using Safari on iPhone, primarily due to the large screen and not having to zoom in and out. Try out FL3 and directly play youtube using Opera 9.5, something which was impossible the last time you had your Athena. When using Opera Mobile, go to the configuration to make minimum overview zoom 85 percent to allow you ability to activate links in zoom out mode if you so wish.
Don't forget youtubeplayer 1.0.0.10 which allows you to either play directly or download youtube videos.
I can't remember if I had already posted this info in my previous entry, so please excuse me if there's any duplication.
Regarding my using the Touch HD, it's the closest replacement available in the market today. I'm not sure if I could get used to the near 4 inch (3.8 precisely) screen or not, but would give it a try. I think 4.5 inch would be real nice, but let's see..
It has many things that I thought an Athena replacement should have: smoother rounder form factor, embedded ear piece, more dated 7.2mb/s download speed, FM radio, better camera (hopefully), and no keybaord (always much prefer without hardware keyboard).
I'm still waiting for my unit to arrive when I make this post. It is too soon for me to comment on performance, etc. I'd want to make sure that if I make a review it is going to be honest, truthful, and helpful.
I never let cost to influence my decision too much. I just want to the best available, if you know what I mean. Actually while considering HD, Mackaby influenced me to give iPhone a serious consideration, which I did. iPhone would have cost me nothing with a plan, but as you already know, it was a frustration and disappointment for me, so I chosed the HD, which cost me AUD1225, which is much cheaper than my Athena, that cost me about AUD1600.
I'd still keep my Athena, in case I could'nt get use to the small size in HD. Won't know until I try it. Unfortunately nobody in Sydney is selling HD, so the only way to try is to buy.
Enough rumbling. Will let you get back to your Athena. Welcome back, my friend.
Lioni,
Forgot to mention podcast. I've never used this myself, but there should be two ways of doing this in winmo devices. You could do it in Opera mobile
In the address bar, enter the URL address of the web page that contains the RTSP link to the desired *.3gp, *.mp4, or *.sdp file, then click on the RTSP links.
Another way is to to use the Streamin Media program. The media is sent in a continuous stream to winmo devices and is played as it arrives, along with the audio. You could play 3GP, MPEG-4, and SDP files. To use this program, go to start/program and start the streaming media program (I think most of MiChy's ROM has it, if I'm not mistaken), then click connect. On the next screen, enter the URL for the website, then tap connect. You can play/pause, rewind, fast forward, etc.
Hope this helps and hope it satisfies your need.
Cheers.
Regarding Opera mobile versus Safari, my opinion is that Safari is still better in terms of being fluid and smooth. Opera tends to be jerky and unsteady in comparision. However, speedwise, there is probably no difference. Safari tends to require some waiting for the blurred webpage to turn clear before you could take control of it (during this time, it is temporarily frozen). Opera also has this pause. I would rate Safari the better browser overall. However, Opera on Athena clearly triumph over Safari on iPhone in my honest opinion, because of the big screen.
I'm currently using my athena again, as my x1 developed a serious flaw yesterday. It jumped under the wheels of a lorry!
Awaiting replacement device from Vodafone as their insurance department is a bad joke.
Anyway, I'd got used to the comparitively tiny screen of the X1, but having gone back to the athena there's a couple of observations.
Both Screens are fantastic, the X1 is noticeably sharper (small screen hires), but using the athena again I can't see how I can cope with the X1 when I eventually get the replacement. It's like using realvga on a screen half the size of the athena, yet I have been coping with it, it's amazing how much you adapt really quickly.
There's a massive speed difference, the x1 does things nearly instantly, all that memory does it I suppose, it's like running an XP machine on 256mb then sticking 1gb of memory inside instead.
Gps is near instantaneous, screen rendering is the same,opening applications don't bring up the spinning wheel of doom, the athena crawls along in comparison yet it didn't feel that slow when I was using it before. It's all relative I suppose (it's not really that slow, maybe 1/4 of a second or so).
But having said that I love the athena, I mentioned before that I don't find it too big to use as a phone, and the screen is amazing. It's a pity we can't squeeze a newer motherboard in there ;-)
When I get my replacement X1 through I'm not certain what to do, I'm very tempted to sell it and get a touch HD, the form factor certainly works better. But then I could keep using it and have the Athena as a wifi tablet for websurfing.
As for browsing speed (noticeably this forum), I find Netfront on simple browsing to be the fastest there is especially across gprs, not very pretty but who cares about the backgrounds when the info is so important!
to throw a spanner in the works, I had a decent play with the blackberry storm while waiting for Vf customer service and their insurance & repairs dept to sort out my x1. The hardware is the best I've seen, not sure how long the funky screen would last, but the form factor is great and build quality looks good, but the OS doesn't look amazing, and I'm not sure how much you can get access to change stuff, plus there's no wifi !
how stupid is that?
Sorry to hear about your SEXXI mishap.
Are you using MiChy's ROM? His ROM should be noticeably faster.
The screen size is the thing that I would miss most about Athena. No doubt about that. A larger screen with the same resolution would off course appear to be less sharp. I hope just like you I could adapt to the tiny 3.8 inch screen in HD.
You should be able to get almost instant GPS signal with Athena. There is a thread that I started on this on how to get that result.
Talking about speed, Asus has just released a 800 mhz winmo phone. This is the fastest on a winmo phone. But sadly it has only 2.8 inch VGA screen, which I would never be able to live with.
yep im running michys latest, and with gps ive never been able to get less than a 35second fix, usually its much more like 5 mins, despite all the tweaks
Beyondpod 3 looks to be EXACTLY what I'm looking for - well done Arctic Matt!
Now here's a stupid question....
I've relied on my iPhone and 'sync in a blink' (a Google OTA contacts sync application) to back up my phone contacts. Now I know that I can back up all my contacts to my Windows Address Book with Itunes, but does anyone know how to put my contacts from my Windows Address Book OR my online Google Contacts onto my Athena (just as a one-off)? I feel stupid even asking this but in the past I've always relied on having my contacts on the SIM card but a few weeks ago I got a new sim and threw the old one away. I don't use Outlook or anything like that, wondered if perhaps I could just do it with Activesync.
Thanks in advance.
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does anyone know how to put my contacts from my Windows Address Book OR my online Google Contacts onto my Athena (just as a one-off)?
Thanks in advance.
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I have an account in Live.com, when I setup Windows Live in my X7510, there is an option to use another email account. I am not sure though if it can use Google (GMail), but to make the story short, upon setup, it will ask you if you want to syncronize your email and contacts to your device.
If Windows Live won't work with GMail, how about creating an account in Live.com. They might have an option to copy your contacts from GMail to Live.com then use Windows Live from your device to syncronize.
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yep im running michys latest, and with gps ive never been able to get less than a 35second fix, usually its much more like 5 mins, despite all the tweaks
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Which GPS Navigation do you use???
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Which GPS Navigation do you use???
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eaglesteve said:
- Do you a extremely fussy person in wanting really really smooth video playback? If yes, consider iPhone. However, if you'r willing to wait, Coreplayer is going to address this issue very very shortly and poor video playout is likely to be history.
Cheers.
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leoni1980 said:
Beyondpod 3 looks to be EXACTLY what I'm looking for - well done Arctic Matt!
Now here's a stupid question....
I've relied on my iPhone and 'sync in a blink' (a Google OTA contacts sync application) to back up my phone contacts. Now I know that I can back up all my contacts to my Windows Address Book with Itunes, but does anyone know how to put my contacts from my Windows Address Book OR my online Google Contacts onto my Athena (just as a one-off)? I feel stupid even asking this but in the past I've always relied on having my contacts on the SIM card but a few weeks ago I got a new sim and threw the old one away. I don't use Outlook or anything like that, wondered if perhaps I could just do it with Activesync.
Thanks in advance.
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Go into the advanced settings of Beyondpod 3 and access Beyond Scheduler! You can automate so much stuff on your Athena without having to program in Mort Script. Via this software my x7500 goes into flight mode at 11pm, wakes up at 6am, connects to my home wifi, downloads all my podcasts, downloads all my emails, syncs with dashwire, switches on realplayer and wakes me up to live BBC radio (I live in Norway - NRK would send me back to sleep.).
Oh and
Once you have all you contacts on your phone I really think you should give Dashwire a go. It is rather spiffing.
I have Microsoft Reader on my new Tilt II and would love to be able to swipe pages instead of using the stylist. Any ideas? I tried setting it up using advance configuration.
I am using ENRG Rom
Thanks in adavance if anyone can help...
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I think you're out of luck unless Microsoft updates this program. It's pretty primitive and hasn't had a facelift for five years. Besides, I think the .lit format is pretty much dead. Mobipocket is a much better e-book reader, and you can turn pages by tapping (tap the right side of the page to advance, the left side to go back a page).
I prefer repligo or foxit for any document reading. LIT is really no more a thing to go for. Wish you luck.
Solution found. You can use VolDPad to utilize the volume buttons to turn pages forward and backward.Works great.
It can be found here: http://beemer.sesma.eu/en/voldpad.htm
Thanks !!
Hi all,
I am on a quest(s) to find the best pdf reader, best PowerPoint presenter etc. I teach at a university and use powerpoint for lectures. I also give ppt lectures to professional groups, other universities, etc. What I am looking for is the best ppt presentation software and the ability to do the presentation remotely. I also do (with my win 7 lenovo tablet) portrait presentations, in which I have configured the table to simulate an overhead system where I can write on in "edit the ppt view" while the systems projects this to the class. So this is the back ground. I see great potential for the Note in many ways, but right now I am disappointed. What I hoping is that I can learn from you about this goal. Below I compare software that I have. I also compare with the Note hooked directly to the projector (hdmi or hdmi-vga) and with the allshare cast dongle. (*hdmi means hdmi or hdmi to vga, both direct to tv or projector). This results were a surprise and part of my current disappointment,
1. Touchshow
Needs a converter to change ppt into form the program can use
Fairly good for fonts, maintains proper style for text (e.g., maintains column width)
Picture effects like reflection works
Animation works
3d shapes work
Fonts generally ok
Good color import text and shapes
Annotation works
Terrible green background used to fill in rest of screen
Bad display resolution.
Does not works similarly with both direct hdmi* to tv/projector and the allshare cast dongle
Does not hide bottom tool bar (the one with the return, time, etc.) when using the allshare, but does in the direct mode
Loads relatively quickly
Does not work in profile
2. Office suite pro
Fairly good for fonts, does not maintain proper style for text (e.g., maintains column width) can edit
Picture effects like reflection does not work
Animation works
No 3d shapes do not work
Fonts generally ok
Color off for text and shapes
Does not import lines and arrow correctly
Annotation works
Black background used to fill in rest of screen
Good display resolution.
Does not hide bottom tool bar (the one with the return, time, etc.)
Works similarly with both direct hdmi* to tv/projector and the allshare cast dongle
It can have a problem when you start a presentation and then swipe to a previous slide or do an annotation: the slides become “warped”. If you restart it will work.
Long time to load big files.
Works for profile presentations but not best aspect ratio maintained
3. Polaris
Fairly good for fonts, does not maintain proper style for text (e.g., maintains column width) can edit
Picture effects like reflection does not work
Animation works
No 3d shapes do not work
Fonts generally ok
Color off for text and shapes, but better than office suite pro.
Does not import lines and arrow correctly
Annotation works
Black background used to fill in rest of screen
Good display resolution.
Short time to load big files.
Does not work similarly with both direct hdmi* to tv/projector and the allshare cast dongle.
There are three display choices, primary monitor, duel monitor, controller and note. The first two work the same, bottom bar not hidden. The controller and not setting hides the bottom bar and gives the biggest projected picture (seems to be the biggest and best of all the I have tried). Works great with direct. With the allshare dongle, the first slide is fine. When the second slide comes up, the first slide does not disappear and for the second slide it only show in about ¾ of the screen in the upper left so you do not see the full slide. The rest of the screen is the first slide. This stays the same for the rest of the slides.
Does not work in profile
4. Quick office pro HD
Fairly good for fonts, does maintain proper style for text (e.g., maintains column width) can edit
Picture effects like reflection work
Animation works
No 3d shapes do not work
Some font import problems
Best color text and shapes.
Does not import lines and arrow correctly
No annotation
Black background used to fill in rest of screen
Lower display resolution.
Long tome to load big files.
Hides the bottom bar but then puts in a controller for slide advance at the bottom which is displayed on the screen.
Work similarly with both direct hdmi* to tv/projector and the allshare cast dongle.
Does not work for profile presentations
Works for profile presentations but not best aspect ratio maintained
My summary. There is no one best software. Resolution and annotation issues remove Touchshow and Quickoffice pro even though they have some strong points. The bottom bar issue, the warped slides, slow to load, not 3d shapes lowers Office suite pro, Polaris has some potential. No 3d in slides and they need editing in Polaris to fix font/column issues. What is disappointing is the behavior of the allshare cast with polaris. It that worked (at least for the landscape slides) I could deal with some of the short comings of the software itself. Am I missing some setting for allshare? What else is weird is that the Polaris software in PlayStore is not compatible with our Note 10.1. Very confusing. I have an email into Polaris on this.
So I look to hear what you all use.
dave
dtl said:
So I look to hear what you all use.
dave
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Hi Dave,
I do support for Quickoffice, but it seems like some of your needs/preferences make Quickoffice not the best mobile ppt for you. I recently found Softmaker's suite when looking for something for a customer who needed to work with ODF files.
They have a trial version available, so it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot and see if it meets your needs
-Keri
Office 2012: Presentations
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tYWtlci5hcHBsaWNhdGlvbnMucHJlc2VudGF0aW9ucyJd
Touchshow Powerpoint Player
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS53aHl0b3VjaC53dHBsYXllciJd
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Hi Dave,
I do support for Quickoffice, but it seems like some of your needs/preferences make Quickoffice not the best mobile ppt for you. I recently found Softmaker's suite when looking for something for a customer who needed to work with ODF files.
They have a trial version available, so it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot and see if it meets your needs
-Keri
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Hi,
Thank you for your reply. Cool, maybe you can do some more support for Quickoffice as with the problems I have seen, this would not be the best mobile app for anyone wanting to make PowerPoint presentations. It has potential, though. What do you think?
I did try softmaker and it was not so good so I did not report on it.
dave
qocarekeri said:
Hi Dave,
I do support for Quickoffice, but it seems like some of your needs/preferences make Quickoffice not the best mobile ppt for you. I recently found Softmaker's suite when looking for something for a customer who needed to work with ODF files.
They have a trial version available, so it wouldn't hurt to give it a shot and see if it meets your needs
-Keri
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txtmikhail said:
Office 2012: Presentations
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tYWtlci5hcHBsaWNhdGlvbnMucHJlc2VudGF0aW9ucyJd
Touchshow Powerpoint Player
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS53aHl0b3VjaC53dHBsYXllciJd
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Thanks I do have the Presentation mobile, but I did not report. No annotation, bottom bar not hidden. has problems with fonts, importing graphics, and lines/arrows. resolution good, keeps animations. Colors slightly off. things like figure reflections work. No 3d shapes.
TouchShow is the first one I reported on, but thanks for your reply and thoughts.
dave
allshare
dtl said:
Thanks I do have the Presentation mobile, but I did not report. No annotation, bottom bar not hidden. has problems with fonts, importing graphics, and lines/arrows. resolution good, keeps animations. Colors slightly off. things like figure reflections work. No 3d shapes.
TouchShow is the first one I reported on, but thanks for your reply and thoughts.
dave
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Well I just talked with Samsung support and they said that Polaris is not compatable with the dongle. Not really clear why. I have an email into Polaris aboutthis, but they have not responded to my first email yet so who knows.
dave
dtl said:
Hi,
Thank you for your reply. Cool, maybe you can do some more support for Quickoffice as with the problems I have seen, this would not be the best mobile app for anyone wanting to make PowerPoint presentations. It has potential, though. What do you think?
I did try softmaker and it was not so good so I did not report on it.
dave
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We're always adding new features to our suite, so it will continue to improve, but I'm not able to comment on any future developments at this time
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Well I just talked with Samsung support and they said that Polaris is not compatable with the dongle. Not really clear why. I have an email into Polaris aboutthis, but they have not responded to my first email yet so who knows.
dave
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I asked Polaris about the 10.1 and the Dongle and they told me they had fixed it on the latest version of the software but what we have on the 10.1 isn't it..
Message below.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your inquiry.
The issue, you reported was fixed
Fixed version would be released on “4.0.5002.30”.
Your version is 4.0.5002.42-FJ03, so it should be fixed and work that feature properly.
One thing we concerned is below part.
For tablet, there's no integration Polaris Office version to support Jelly Bean & ICS for now.
if your Polaris Office full version name ends Odd number like 4.0.5xxx.x3, it's for ICS version and ends Even number like 4.0.5xxx.x2, it's for Jelly Bean version.
Your Polaris Office version is 4.0.5002.42-FJ03, for ICS, please downgrade your OS to ICS and upgrade next when Jelly Bean supports our Polaris Office properly. Or please ask Samsung customer service center whether they have integration Polaris Office version or not.
After downgrade your OS to ICS and there’s same issue, please contact us again.
We will try hard to repay you for all your kindness.
Thanks for your interest.
Polaris Office CS Team
So they're essentially saying Polaris doesn't support Android 4.1+, but does support 4.0 - ? (sorry, but that's hard for me to read there)
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So they're essentially saying Polaris doesn't support Android 4.1+, but does support 4.0 - ? (sorry, but that's hard for me to read there)
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Hard for me to read too..
Yes, that seems to be what they are saying.
Reading it again it appears we do have the latest version but it is just not compatible.
qocarekeri said:
We're always adding new features to our suite, so it will continue to improve, but I'm not able to comment on any future developments at this time
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So if you want the ultimate beta test look to me.
Dave
jeremyr62 said:
I asked Polaris about the 10.1 and the Dongle and they told me they had fixed it on the latest version of the software but what we have on the 10.1 isn't it..
Message below.
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your inquiry.
The issue, you reported was fixed
Fixed version would be released on “4.0.5002.30”.
Your version is 4.0.5002.42-FJ03, so it should be fixed and work that feature properly.
One thing we concerned is below part.
For tablet, there's no integration Polaris Office version to support Jelly Bean & ICS for now.
if your Polaris Office full version name ends Odd number like 4.0.5xxx.x3, it's for ICS version and ends Even number like 4.0.5xxx.x2, it's for Jelly Bean version.
Your Polaris Office version is 4.0.5002.42-FJ03, for ICS, please downgrade your OS to ICS and upgrade next when Jelly Bean supports our Polaris Office properly. Or please ask Samsung customer service center whether they have integration Polaris Office version or not.
After downgrade your OS to ICS and there’s same issue, please contact us again.
We will try hard to repay you for all your kindness.
Thanks for your interest.
Polaris Office CS Team
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Well I have still not heard back. I sent them the review I did and comments about Polaris. Did you send to support. As for the message from them it is as some point out hard to know exactly what we should do. I already got the answer from Samsung as I pointed out. I still do not know why the version on Play Store in not compatible with any of my devices: Note 10.1 with JB; HP touchpad with ICS (retired); HTC HD2 with JB. Weird.
dave
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So if you want the ultimate beta test look to me.
Dave
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Most of our testing is done internally with Google employees, but we're always looking for enthusiastic customers to work with us and be active in our forums - send me a pm with your email so that I can follow up with you if you're interested in participating.
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dave
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Great summary - my exact experience over the past few months of doing presentations with my Note 10.1 When Polaris actually worked (I have the screen refresh issue now, but didn't on ICS) that worked great with the Dongle and being able to markup my slides. Of course then the controller + notes option didn't work. For me any software that could at least do a simple slide, allow for markups and have controller + notes would be sufficient. Sadly there isn't even anything that can do that.
So what I use - Sadly I find myself using SplashTop Whiteboard to remote control a PC which at least gives working display and markup abilities. Depressing because I don't need AllShare Cast, or my Note 10.1 for that... could still use my Transformer TF101 for that. Otherwise I just pick one of those same software programs you mentioned based on whatever one's shortcomings has the least impact for any given presentation.
I've tried SoftMaker - don't have a detailed review but don't like the interface and know it doesn't do controller + notes view.
jeggen said:
Great summary - my exact experience over the past few months of doing presentations with my Note 10.1 When Polaris actually worked (I have the screen refresh issue now, but didn't on ICS) that worked great with the Dongle and being able to markup my slides. Of course then the controller + notes option didn't work. For me any software that could at least do a simple slide, allow for markups and have controller + notes would be sufficient. Sadly there isn't even anything that can do that.
So what I use - Sadly I find myself using SplashTop Whiteboard to remote control a PC which at least gives working display and markup abilities. Depressing because I don't need AllShare Cast, or my Note 10.1 for that... could still use my Transformer TF101 for that. Otherwise I just pick one of those same software programs you mentioned based on whatever one's shortcomings has the least impact for any given presentation.
I've tried SoftMaker - don't have a detailed review but don't like the interface and know it doesn't do controller + notes view.
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At a workshop now and would have been great to have the minimum of what said. The potential for this is huge.
polaris
dtl said:
At a workshop now and would have been great to have the minimum of what said. The potential for this is huge.
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Polaris updated on note update. Lets check it out.
Dave
dtl said:
Polaris updated on note update. Lets check it out.
Dave
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Also noticed an update in the Samsung app store. Have a custom ROM so am curious if this is the same version that was pushed out on the updated firmware.
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jeggen said:
Also noticed an update in the Samsung app store. Have a custom ROM so am curious if this is the same version that was pushed out on the updated firmware.
Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk HD
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Just looked. In the app store, not the same firmware number and might be older.
jeggen said:
Also noticed an update in the Samsung app store. Have a custom ROM so am curious if this is the same version that was pushed out on the updated firmware.
Sent from my GT-N8013 using Tapatalk HD
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Dave,
Ah.... Now I understand what exactly you're trying to achieve vis-a-vis PowerPoint.
djasli said:
Dave,
Ah.... Now I understand what exactly you're trying to achieve vis-a-vis PowerPoint.
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thanks,
I do not have much hope at this. I just received an email from Polaris wanting me to restate the problem. I did and also sent them an image of what I mean as well as a short ppt for them to test.
I think that android ppt programs should concentrate on being a fantastic projection device and not worry a lot about in depth editing. The editing can be done via PC. The android software just needs to accurately impart the ppt and project it well. However, the various makers of the software need to hustle as the new Windows based tablets with the same form factor come out, I suspect the serious ppt users will go to this win platform. That is why I think presentation with inking is the key for Android PPT software.
dave