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HD2 speaker quality

What do you think of the HD2 REAR speaker quality?
Could you state below why you think it is good or bad?
Do you have something to compare it to?
Is it better or worse than a Nokia? (I consider their speakers as rather good)

Not too hard to guess what the 1st person put, is it

Thread already running here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011

Xeon said:
Thread already running here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591011
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That poll is called "Earpiece and voicecall quality". Hang on, you made it - you should know that! lol
This is for the speaker.

johncmolyneux said:
That poll is called "Earpiece and voicecall quality". Hang on, you made it - you should know that! lol
This is for the speaker.
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Hmm.. OP please specify which speaker ie: back speaker just to make things clear.
Well john you got a point

Xeon said:
Hmm.. OP please specify which speaker ie: back speaker just to make things clear.
Well john you got a point
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Yes...
And my poll mainly concerns the REAR speaker.
The front speaker, is IMHO rather good.

Yerry said:
Yes...
And my poll mainly concerns the REAR speaker.
The front speaker, is IMHO rather good.
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Well I hope you've voted accordingly on Xeon's poll then

johncmolyneux said:
Well I hope you've voted accordingly on Xeon's poll then
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Yes I did.
But my rear speaker...
Some ppl here are even saying good or brilliant. I figure HTC is using very cheap components and the spread between those must be huge.
I had luck on mine in terms of the earpiece, but I had no luck on the rear speaker.
It is a shame that a 100 Euro Nokia has a better speaker than my HD 2.
Guess I have to return it :-(

very bad rear speaker or audioprocessing algorithm. rear speaker sounds distorted all the time, no good for a handsfree phonecall or listening music. guess too much volume is pumped to the speaker. not gonna return device anyway. bluetooth headset or headphones.

Coming from iPhone it is very poor for music. Not that the iPhone is high fidelity in any way, but it's much richer. The HD2 speaker is tinny, but it works well for hands free voice, where I thought the iPhone was a bit a sharp and piercing.

Yerry said:
What do you think of the HD2 REAR speaker quality?
Could you state below why you think it is good or bad?
Do you have something to compare it to?
Is it better or worse than a Nokia? (I consider their speakers as rather good)
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I compare it with TP2 and there is no match. The sound from the HD2 is very distorted when the volume put to high. Still the TP2 is the best sound quality from HTC so far.

doraemon said:
I compare it with TP2 and there is no match. The sound from the HD2 is very distorted when the volume put to high. Still the TP2 is the best sound quality from HTC so far.
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The N95 is ridiculously better than ANY HTC device ever made, but that's got nothing to do with this poll, so let's not get into that. Likewise with your TP2 comment. The poll is what you think about the HD2 speaker. It's not asking for comparisons.

ok...given that the rear speaker is tiny , am not expecting much but what i dislike is that the sound is garbled and not clear!
I use the speakerphone a lot for con calls...and compared to my n958gb...the sound is less loud (which is okay) but not clear at all....garbled...where I cannot distinguish properly what is being said

I think my rear speaker is ok, but I do get a lot of distortion at high volume through the 3.5mm out which is annoying.

i find my hd2 speakers to be very well made. not earpiercing at all and sound quality is on par and even better than sony's walkman phones and nokia's express music models

I'm pretty sure that aside from the Touch pro 2 HTC use loudspeaker components meant for musical birthday cards. The sound on the HD2 and all the other HTC devices I've owned (including the G1, Magic and Hero) has been appaling compared to all the non-HTC devices I've owned such as the Nokia 5800, iPhone 3gS, Samsung Galaxy, Omnia 2 and Motorola Dext.
It's such a shame that HTC let themselves down like this with their speaker and camera hardware as the BUILD quality of their devices is as good as it gets in my opinion, I just wish they'd stop using crappy parts.
I'm certain the Desire I have on order will also have a crap loudspeaker too.
Just played the same trailer on the HD2 and iPhone YouTube apps and the difference in sound richness - no matter what volume - is deflating.

The "loud"speaker on the rear of the unit isn't really that loud and becomes very tinny when set to a high volume. Bass is non-existent (not surprisingly).
Works OK for a small conference in quiet surroundings but is not suited for a larger group, noisy surrondings and certainly not music!
This is one of the very few areas where TP2 is miles ahead of it's cooler brother - HD2. The conferencing-ability of the TP2, including the rear speaker, is in my opinion brilliant!

....also I don't mean to be a negative nancy but those who have voted the HD2 rear speaker to be 'brilliant' must either have aural deficiencies, have never heard the speakers on a non HTC device or refuse to accept any negative criticism of their beloved device.
There is no smartphone I have come across in the past 18 months that had worse speakers than a HTC-made handset. Most of my friends have some form of HTC device and without prompting all of them have at some point mentioned the poor speaker quality. HTC's speakers have no dynamics to them, so any talking with background noise turns into an incomprehensible mess. On an iPhone or Nokia XPressMusic I can happily listen to my favourite podcasts and music through the loudspeaker but with an HTC device my timpanic membrane is left shuddering as if I had been trapped in a metal dustbin and struck repeatedly with an iron hammer.
So if I can I use a speaker dock.

crap
This is my third HTC made device - PDA2K, TYTN II and now HD2. I must say i am not an audiophile. TYTN II was not too bad, but HD2 is pretty bad. Bought my wife an iphone 3GS (got it cheap as upgrade on phone plan)
my HD2 is embarrasing as a music player compared to the Iphone.
I have had to buy a set of earphones Stenheiser for it, the included ones were crap too. For a NZ$1000 phone, it's unacceptable.

The rear speaker is OK but distorts at volume.

Ear peice volume old chestnut

I've kinda been lucky to have had 3 x10's through faults, but there's a but.
My background us that am a tv/ vcr engineer, and I've come across "fudges" to mask faults.
So here goes. All 3 x10's have low call volume. All 3 ear pieces vibrate/resonate at max ear volume.
So imagine if the in ear volume is increased further, more vibration/distortion. Hence low volume, lessons the vibration.
My ten penneth.
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yep agreed there
mine does also
any increase is sure to make it worse at max volume, and it bugs the hell out of me 2.

So, now I get it! That's why on the promotional video, the babe was using bluetooth headset all the time, and never been seen using the phone earpiece for calling etc... We should all buy the bluetooth headset then. The only problem is, I cannot find that white bluetooth headset in the market, I've searched everywhere already...

I think cheapest solution is to have ears syringed regular.
Seriously though, it has to be the mounting of the ear piece speaker what's causing the resonance.
I'm 40, and I can hear it, so its clearly a design floor.
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[Q] Questions before buying: Speaker Volume

I bought a Desire HD last month but returned it after a few days because it was just too big to be comfortable for daily use but the biggest reason was the crappy speaker volume. I was constantly missing calls because I couldn't hear the phone ringing when in my pocket.
My question is is how loud is the external speaker on the Desire Z? For quick comparison I find my normal Desire just adequate enough to be heard normally.

Would also be interested in hearing a reply on this... Thinking of going ahead now and getting the DZ, but would like to know what the speaker is like for ringtones/alert tones etc...

I would say in general the speaker volume is not as loud as it could be. It is certainly not as loud as my milestone is. I havent missed any calls yet, but I have it turned up all the way for ringer and notification and wish it could be louder.
Its not a deal breaker for me, but could be for some.

The speaker is moderately loud. The main issue people are having is that the quality of sound out of the speaker itself is rather poor. As someone who almost always has his phone on vibrate and never uses actual music as his ringtone, I haven't noticed it.
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I'd say the ringer is pretty quiet to be honest, personally I'd like to make it louder as I'm sure I'll never hear it in my pocket.
Andre

Not sounding too good then regarding ringing volume?!
Any TP2 users who can say whether this is better/worse/same as the TP2 volume? Do you find that you are missing more calls?
I'm currently using an Orange San Fran phone whilst deciding, and going from the TP2 to the San Fran, I can say that I miss most calls... lol. For example, the phone underneath the settee last week, and I couldn't find it. So, rang it to try and find it. Couldn't even hear the ringing!!! Only noticed it when was about a foot away from it...

My almost 50 year old ears have problems anyway, so I leave my phone in vibrate mode and in my shirt pocket, so I can feel it more than hear it if I'm in a noisy place.
I've also taken to wearing a BT headset, now that I can hear
/current phone is a TYTN II -- should get me Z tomorrow

I think the Z might be a little too heavy for a shirt pocket :-/

Speaker quality

Anyone else notice how the Nexus S speaker sound quality is a bit distorted, sort of like static but not really static? It is not that it isn't loud - it is. Rather, the sounds like the sound is not properly coming from the speaker, like something is blocking part of it.
Is it just me?
(BTW I am talking about the speaker in the back, not the ear piece.)

DarkAgent said:
Anyone else notice how the Nexus S speaker sound quality is a bit distorted, sort of like static but not really static? It is not that it isn't loud - it is. Rather, the sounds like the sound is not properly coming from the speaker, like something is blocking part of it.
Is it just me?
(BTW I am talking about the speaker in the back, not the ear piece.)
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ive yet to really notice ANY issue with my phone yet, the speaker sounds just as good as my N1 did

It must be my speaker, then. It is really bothering me.

DarkAgent said:
It must be my speaker, then. It is really bothering me.
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other people have been reporting it as well, maybe im just lucky, but idk

Mine sounds fine... Maybe take it to a local BBY and compare ringtones on each? Maybe that could help you justify your decision.

Mine sounds fine too, although I'll admit the sound isn't as clear and loud as my Epic was.

zachthemaster said:
Mine sounds fine... Maybe take it to a local BBY and compare ringtones on each? Maybe that could help you justify your decision.
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I just did. Same issue on it. I am going to assume it is the same issue on all Nexus S phones.

I would say that on my NS the loud speaker on the back is quite good with amazing bass for a phone speaker, however the phone ear speaker is tinny sounding and very noisy in calls compared to my N1 because of the lack of the noise canceling 2nd microphone. It is a bit disappointing and is the main reason that I may return the NS and hold on to my N1.

slowz3r said:
ive yet to really notice ANY issue with my phone yet, the speaker sounds just as good as my N1 did
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Mine actually sounds a lot better than my N1 did. A lot louder that's for sure.

mine is loud and crisp.
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People have told me that my phone is picking up tons of ambient noise when I am talking to them and my earpiece volume is pretty low on my end. Only complaint about the phone. Hoping that once the custom roms drop they will have the same volume boost i loved so much on my n1 cyanogen roms.

I first noticed it sounded a bit muffled compared to my Vibrant, which should have a similar if not the same speaker. I think it's just a tweaking of the treble that will fix it though... the Vibrant sounded a bit more tinny so I'm quite sure it can be adjusted with an equalizer to sound similar.
DarkAgent said:
Anyone else notice how the Nexus S speaker sound quality is a bit distorted, sort of like static but not really static? It is not that it isn't loud - it is. Rather, the sounds like the sound is not properly coming from the speaker, like something is blocking part of it.
Is it just me?
(BTW I am talking about the speaker in the back, not the ear piece.)
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my ear piece is distorted if on max

Bottom Firing Speaker

So I was thinking about all these people complaining and whining about the pixel not having a front firing speaker or dual front speakers for stereo and I got to thinking how would that sound while the phone is inside the DayDream VR with the speakers facing your eyes? Perhaps the bottom firing is better after all?
I for one hold, and semi cup the top/bottom while holding the phone horizontally watching video, so the sound reflects back at me anyways. Coming from an LG v10 I am used to this. Compared both phones watching the same music video on youtube at best buy and they were pretty much equal in volume..
What ya think?

Agreed..... You'd have those speakers firing right into your eyes. Google is really pushing Daydream so I'm sure that played a roll.
In all honesty compared to my 6P the only time I miss the stereo speakers is when the phone is in landscape. I much prefer the sound signature of the Pixel in comparison for everything else but don't like the sound coming out of one side in landscape.

It's the best single speaker I've had on a device. Loud and clear sound. With the phone face down in my pocket I can actually hear my notifications because of the speaker placement.

nadiros said:
It's the best single speaker I've had on a device. Loud and clear sound. With the phone face down in my pocket I can actually hear my notifications because of the speaker placement.
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This is true as well. Can't tell you how many important emails I replied to late because in a noisy warehouse environment I did not hear the notification because the speakers were pressed into my leg.

I'm guessing most people will use headphones when using the headset, otherwise you won't be able to get a sense of location from the sound. I doubt VR was part of the decision.

nadiros said:
It's the best single speaker I've had on a device. Loud and clear sound. With the phone face down in my pocket I can actually hear my notifications because of the speaker placement.
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AndrasLOHF said:
This is true as well. Can't tell you how many important emails I replied to late because in a noisy warehouse environment I did not hear the notification because the speakers were pressed into my leg.
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Ditto, I have a really loud DING type notification sound just because of this same reason. When I have the phone out, people freak out literally.. Yelling at me, wtf why don't you change that tone or put it on vibrate.. I'm like it's also set to vibrate, but just like I miss the tones, in a loud environment (outside), while walking I can not really differentiate the vibration on my leg..

The LG G4 has the speaker on the back. Nice looking phone but you can't hear much.