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I have a Wing that I flashed to the Open Touch 6.0 ROM. Battery Status installed. Overclocked to 260. When I first flasshed to this ROM, the device memory was 13-14mb. Now, Battery Status is now reporting 7.9mb free. It goes down alittle bitt each time I use it to get online, and after using Google Maps. I use the T-Mobile proxy hack thing with the $5.99 T-zones plan. Where is all the memory going? I haven't installed anything at all since the flash. There are no cookies, internet files or cache folders with anything significant in them. Help!
Take a look at what's running in the background. Use a program like Memaid or SKTools to free up space. Stop things you don't want running in the background and that should free loads of memory.
Well, can't I look at those things using the task manager? I'm pretty religious about keeping programs from running in the background. Or is what your talking about something similar to using the System Configuration utility on a pc to close running programs?
Exactly, check what's in the windows>startup folder and see what automatically starts up and delete anything you don't want to startup. I don't really rely much on the Pocket PC task manager because it doesn't show much. On the other hand, Pocket Controller Enterprise shows every single running task (whether it's big or small).
Ok, so I just figured it out. Duh. I stll have a hard time remembering that I can troubleshoot things on this phone just like on a computer. Open up IE>Tools>Options>Memory= clear files and cookies. Now I'm back to 12mb.
I showed my wife this post and told her the problem, first thing she says is, did ya clear the cookies?
Lol, good catch. I just usually just put all that stuff on my storage card.
Ok, so I just figured it out. Duh. I stll have a hard time remembering that I can troubleshoot things on this phone just like on a computer. Open up IE>Tools>Options>Memory= clear files and cookies. Now I'm back to 12mb.
I showed my wife this post and told her the problem, first thing she says is, did ya clear the cookies?
My phones lately been acting funny
programs have been fore closing and its been laggy and idk why i did put any new apps..
dont know what iv did different i never did anything i have dxtop but it never did anything before
my phones moded and rooted and all the other stuff JF released
If you have a lot of apps or if you're running low on internal phone memory, it would cause your phone to lag. There is also a couple more reasons, I just can't think of em at the moment. =/
You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.
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You ned task manager. Look which programs you've got running, may be you don't need some of them. I know for sure that "phonebook" app and "mybackup" app are some serious memory hogs, my phone was acting all goofy, uninstalled those two-problems are gone and forgotten.
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And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card
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And i happen to have both of them..........well how do I check my internal memory..I have dxtop memory widget and always says around 24 to 26 mb free of memory..so u think i should remove those 2 apps? i mean my back up i can always reinstall but i have that nadroid backup thing when i got my phone rooted to do a full system backup to my sd card
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Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.
Oh yeah, Imeem will run in the background indefenately as well.
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Don't quote me on that but....
24-26 mb of memory is probably available for app installs (that would be system/data/data part of your phone). Running programs occupying different part of the memory, think of it as a RAM memory on the computer. Android has it's own program to decide which processes will run in the background and which wont but it's too immature at the moment. It'll get better with time.
With that said, phonebook, mybackup and in your case dxtop are all running constantly on your phone along with gmail, myfaves (whether you like it or not), maps, messaging, and bunches of others. Something is coded in them to prevent android to shut them down. Lock 2.0 is another one that runs in the backround all the time but it's not that memory hungry and doing just fine by itself.
The best way to check what's running is to download "Task Manager for root users" from the market (it's free). It will show which programs are running at the time. Click on any program and it will show the option to shut that program down. but if you shut down phonebook and hit refresh you'll see that it will restart itsef.
I suggest that you get rid of the phonebook, it looks very very nice but can't make it default so what's the point? Backup is waste of space too, you can back up all the info other ways so again, what's the point?
Good luck, I'm sure you can figure it out and reclaim the speed that G1 is capable of. Sorry for taking so long to get to the point.
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Well got rid of phone book and my backup since i can always back up my full system
and I already have advance task manager and i can close all the applicatiosn running but not proccess or services with that said I always have close everything app and run that once in a while
I noticed that with dxtop(trial) that every time I went to the home screen, either by hitting home button or backing out of an app, there was a lot of lag. And this is before the little countdown timer the trial has in it.
Uninstalled and am in the process of trying out the other two home replacement apps. Dont have that problem with them. If you are still having issues might try unistalling dxtop.
I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?
how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.
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I probably shouldn't even ask because it was covered many times but.... do you have your caches on sd and if not do you clear them often?
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I have not heard this..where and how?
kay11224 said:
how do i close programs running in the background. i know i have to hold home, but wat do i do to close them.
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Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes
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I have not heard this..where and how?
Same here I can close applications in backgrounmd but not services or processes
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1) Anyone?
2) would anyone happen to know which home alternative uses more memory?
dxTop
http://dxtop.wikidot.com/
or
Open Home Lite
http://betterandroid.wordpress.com/
(scroll down to second post)
I just figured out what has been plaguing my Sprint Hero from day 2 that I got it. Apparently others have the same problem. You can only install a certain number of apps, before the device will start crashing on boot.
Is there a fix for this, beside having to flash a custom ROM?
thanks
sorry, wrong post
I don't think even ROMs fix it, the number seems to be different for everyone, some people can get to 100 others can barely get past 50. Are we sure its a limitation of the CDMA Hero and not just Android in general?
I've heard it was only Sprint Hero devices that have this bug.
I ran into the issue for the second time just last night. I heard the phone buzz behind me on the desk and when I looked, I saw that it had spontaneously rebooted itself. Upon starting though, just as what I've run into before, all core apps would FC.
Took the opportunity for some long overdue house cleaning and deleted a stack of apps that really aren't used and I'm back in business.
It's not really an app limit so much as an apk limit I'm not sire what the number is, but custom roms often remove a lot of unwanted apks raising the limit of apps before you experience the big.
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I just figured out what has been plaguing my Sprint Hero from day 2 that I got it. Apparently others have the same problem. You can only install a certain number of apps, before the device will start crashing on boot.
Is there a fix for this, beside having to flash a custom ROM?
thanks
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Are you using apps2SD? If not then you are using the internal memory to store all apps and this memoery is not unlimited. Maybe you are going too low on internal memory and that's what's causing the crash.
Im running apps2sd and I had the problem the other day. I had approx 60 apps. When it happened I had about 37mb free on the internal memory and 3 gb free on SD
Does the same thing on custom ROMs and Kernels that I've tried. No idea what it is.
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Im running apps2sd and I had the problem the other day. I had approx 60 apps. When it happened I had about 37mb free on the internal memory and 3 gb free on SD
Does the same thing on custom ROMs and Kernels that I've tried. No idea what it is.
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Well well..... that sucks...
Same issue
I am having the same issue and believe it has to be something within the hero causing this issue! I have used android since day 1 coming from the g1 and mt3g and I never had this issue and I have had as many as 150+ apps on both. Wiping the ext3 partition fixes it or removing a bunch of apps. My advice would be to invest in the paid titanium backup so that when your phone shuts of or reboots you can wipe ext3 and just have titanium restore back ups or remove unused apps.
I believe this may have something to do with either htcs hacks to Android or the 2.6.27 kernel for enabling cdma on Android 1.5.
I know this isnt helpful, but why would anyone need 50+ apps. Unless all you do test apps, there is no need. Heres a tip, delete the ones you don't use.
I used to have this problem when I first got the phone. I got all app-happy, especially with the free ones. It seemed that 70 was the limit. But I found out that problems really happened after installing too many at once.
I think the combination of rooting and rebooting every so often between app installs has allowed the system to stabilize itself. Right now I'm running Fresh 1.1 on the new Gumbo ram-hack kernal and my app count is at 95. I've got 21 MB free internal memory and the only thing that FC regularly is Swype. I've had warnings that I was low on memory at around 12 MB so I just unloaded a few apps. But even then it was stable.
Yeah, mostly it was a byproduct of me being in an experimental phase and lazy about removal.
Took me forever to decide on which music player (still not totally pleased), news widgets, etc. I just figured id play around then clean up when the 2.X comes out.
Is there a way to really see the sizes of the apps and tally them up to see if its a size cap for .apks? It might be interesting to see if there is a correlation.
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I just figured out what has been plaguing my Sprint Hero from day 2 that I got it. Apparently others have the same problem. You can only install a certain number of apps, before the device will start crashing on boot.
Is there a fix for this, beside having to flash a custom ROM?
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There's a big thread on this over at androidforums.com i read a while back. If i can find it ill post it. No idea of thier solution.
odd, I've never had the issue. I've got over 80 apps, using apps2sd, and haven't ever had an error due to having too many apps.
it doesn't have anything to do with installing too many at once. I tried installing everything one by one, and still had the problem.
I think you can get to 95 now, because the fresh rom has fewer apk's pre-installed.
IIRC jmanley @modaco forums has figured out the total number of apks in /system/app /data/app and /data/app-private that the Hero will handle. It's not just the apps in /data/, it's the total number throughout the system.
He's a member here if the Verizon boys didn't drive him away completely in the Eris root thread.
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IIRC jmanley @modaco forums has figured out the total number of apks in /system/app /data/app and /data/app-private that the Hero will handle. It's not just the apps in /data/, it's the total number throughout the system.
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http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-hero-hero-modaco-com/301170/app-limit-on-sprint-hero/
I previously thought it was 186, but then I found 2 apks in /system/framework so I guess the total is 188.
So i download this new app called process manager. It is a pretty good app that has a feature that shows you what starts up and how much memory it takes up... This works for both apps and services....
I strictly use Launcherpro for my launcher but was surprised to find that my phone was starting up and loading Dell Stage, and all the widgets. The stage took about 5 megs and each widget took an additional 2-3 megs. I used titanium backup to remove these things because I do not use them.
Further analyzing the data of what memory was being used, I went from 140 megs free to 200. I either removed or froze items that I decided weren't really necessary.
I have noticed battery time improvements and the phone is leaner and meaner now. I end up opening up this app now ever few days and check to see what is going on...
so if you are not using apps or background apps, its best to probably remove them.. just be careful!
What apps you running there?
I'm running 351 and I have Stage Home running, with the Music and Pictures widgets. I uninstalled the other widgets(Movies, Social, Books) and I have 232MB free, and my Dell runs lightning fast.
I like to keep my Streak light and fast.
Map and pandora always starts themselves automatically and eat 40mb worth of memory.
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use Root Explorer and delete all the .apks and will solve most of your problems. I installed process app you mentioned and had hardly anything like you mentioned loaded. I always delete them about two minutes after installing any rooted ROM.
Krad said:
So i download this new app called process manager. It is a pretty good app that has a feature that shows you what starts up and how much memory it takes up... This works for both apps and services....
I strictly use Launcherpro for my launcher but was surprised to find that my phone was starting up and loading Dell Stage, and all the widgets. The stage took about 5 megs and each widget took an additional 2-3 megs. I used titanium backup to remove these things because I do not use them.
Further analyzing the data of what memory was being used, I went from 140 megs free to 200. I either removed or froze items that I decided weren't really necessary.
I have noticed battery time improvements and the phone is leaner and meaner now. I end up opening up this app now ever few days and check to see what is going on...
so if you are not using apps or background apps, its best to probably remove them.. just be careful!
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Ok youve sold me , I am going to root. Which ites did you remove and which did you decide to freeze? Your list may be helpful.
You can probly use task killer as well.
but use titanium backup to delete or freeze apps
I froze lota, log manager. Log storage
Removed all att crap
Removed uneccessary live wallpapers
Removed swype
Removed anything I didn't use that was an app.
Take a look and see what is loading on your streak before you remove items
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I'm one of the "lucky bastards" who cancelled BBY preorder, ordered from TD and got tablet 2 days ago. When I got the tablet, I installed few applications, 2 different launchers and put an SD card from an old Note 10.1 (500 books/documents, 2Gb music, 2Gb video files). Tablet was very slow, sometimes taking 2-3 seconds to open app drawer. When in S Note, I was often getting "unfortunately IndexService has stopped". I used a task manager, checked this service, it was using most of CPU all the time. I found a thread in Note 3 forum about this service using most of battery. This seems to be a service for new S Finder. On my tablet it was scanning files all the time. I may have a corrupted file or something that it doesn't like. I moved all files from SD, service stopped crashing, lag is gone. I have started moving files back one folder at a time, hoping to find out the bad file.
If you see lag on yours, see if you have this IndexService running all the time.
Have the exact same problem on my note 3 atm. What a pain in the ass to deal with.
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I will keep that in mind as of right now I have not had the index service issue happen with mine. Where can I see if the index service is constantly running?
...Sent from my Tablet...Please excuse any typo's...
Well done, trouble shooting though
Rickgsx said:
I will keep that in mind as of right now I have not had the index service issue happen with mine. Where can I see if the index service is constantly running?
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I'm using "SystemPanel App / Task Manager" from market, had bought it during 2.2 days, hadn't installed on any of my JB devices. I remembered about that, installed, turned on monitoring and kept an eye on top processes. I'm not saying this is the only reason for lag, but for me there was a big difference after I cleaned the SD card.
I had the same problem but I just removed my SD card let it index then when stabilized in inserted back works good so far secondly u should disable air command
try and see how it work it works very good with me after ur phone get stabilized re activate ur air command
For me the culprit was a corrupted pdf file. My Note3 was fine after I deleted that file.
Moreover I found that the indexservice process is taking more cpu and time when I have more number of pdf files i my memory card.
So, right now either you can put less number of pdf files on your device to avoid the lag or just wait till the indexing completes.
After the indexing completes, the device works as wonderfully as it was working before inserting my memory card.
Hope I helped...Cheer!!!
I also got same message.
Pls help me, I am layman as to xda forum, pls tell how get rid of this "Unfortunately, IndexService has stopped." I get this message every time I start my device.
As per recent post of this thread I understood that some corrupt files cause this problem, but how to find that particular file?
I have copy & pasted 12-14gb pdf,vdo,zip,doc,xls,ppt all my academic files into internal memory of 32gb.
Please help me out here.
Suggest some windows based software to scan corrupt files.
Some body please suggest solution to this indexing problem...
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Some body please suggest solution to this indexing problem...
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Use "trials and errors" method, remove your files, make sure search is running fine (which means it's not running all the time nor crashing), then start adding few files/folders at a time. Time consuming of course, but I don't know any other way of doing it. I don't know if this process creates a log file with scan information, that file would be useful.
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Pls help me, I am layman as to xda forum, pls tell how get rid of this "Unfortunately, IndexService has stopped." I get this message every time I start my device.
As per recent post of this thread I understood that some corrupt files cause this problem, but how to find that particular file?
I have copy & pasted 12-14gb pdf,vdo,zip,doc,xls,ppt all my academic files into internal memory of 32gb.
Please help me out here.
Suggest some windows based software to scan corrupt files.
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Try
Going to settings
General
Storage
Clear cached files
If that doesnt work, assuming you are rooted clear cache and data files. TI, Rom Toolbox, others can do this. Or if you have custom recovery boot to recovery and clear in recovery.
Woody
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woodsonmh said:
Try
Going to settings
General
Storage
Clear cached files
If that doesnt work, assuming you are rooted clear cache and data files. TI, Rom Toolbox, others can do this. Or if you have custom recovery boot to recovery and clear in recovery.
Woody
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I am using trials and errors way to detect faulty file by trying to delete few pdf files folders then restarting to check popping of "Unfortunately, IndexService has stopped" message, so after deleting few folder, that popping stop but I am not sure that problem is completely solved because battery consumption graph show that IndexService is still 2nd largest battery sucker after screen, so it must be running in background.
Sorry I'm still layment in terms of rooting & backup. But I did cleared all cache. Can you tell why I got this message- "Security policy restricts clearing off this app's cache" ? So not sure that it completely removed cache.
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I am using trials and errors way to detect faulty file by trying to delete few pdf files folders then restarting to check popping of "Unfortunately, IndexService has stopped" message, so after deleting few folder, that popping stop but I am not sure that problem is completely solved because battery consumption graph show that IndexService is still 2nd largest battery sucker after screen, so it must be running in background.
Sorry I'm still layment in terms of rooting & backup. But I did cleared all cache. Can you tell why I got this message- "Security policy restricts clearing off this app's cache" ? So not sure that it completely removed cache.
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Im not sure unless knox is doing it. I had the same message so i cleared it in another program. I got 1.5gig back. Play has many programs that clear cache. Or you can use app section to clear chache on a app by app basis.
Good luck
Woody
When i got this message the anount of memory uaed by cache remained the same.
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There is no way to scan for the corrupt file, as far as I know. You'll just have to remove all files, and add back a few at a time, until the problem returns. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483944
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There is no way to scan for the corrupt file, as far as I know. You'll just have to remove all files, and add back a few at a time, until the problem returns. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2483944
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After removing some complex pdf of maths, "Unfortunately, IndexService has stopped." this message has stopped popping up, but battery drain & heat up is continuously building up. I have to keep it sleep or forced to keep it shut down.
for every ON 2 Mins= 1% battery discharge & 1 degree celsius rise in battery temperature.
What a weird problem is this! I got 20-50gb of academic pdfs which I was looking forward making it pdf library, not anymore due to this idiotic Index Service which scans each & every content of pdf to build its useless search index for every default Samsung app. & gets reset after every addition or deletion of file! Ridiculous Samsung. Pls issue update to make us able to disable/enable this service. Its extremely tedious to copy paste files by batch of 10-20 files with respect to my 50gb collection.
I seems I have no option than to do this cumbersome work.:crying:
I have attached few screen shot of my P601 scenario, please help guys, sure some one will come up with solution soon...:angel:
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After removing some complex pdf of maths, "Unfortunately, IndexService has stopped." this message has stopped popping up, but battery drain & heat up is continuously building up. I have to keep it sleep or forced to keep it shut down.
What a weird problem is this! I got 20-50gb of academic pdfs which I was looking forward making it pdf library, not anymore due to this idiotic Index Service which scans each & every content of pdf to build its useless search index for every default Samsung app. & gets reset after every addition or deletion of file! Ridiculous Samsung. Pls issue update to make us able to disable/enable this service. Its extremely tedious to copy paste files by batch of 10-20 files with respect to my 50gb collection.
I seems I have no option than to do this cumbersome work.:crying:
I have attached few screen shot of my P601 scenario, please help guys, sure some one will come up with solution soon...:angel:
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Yes, it is ridiculous. I've seen it many times. My problem was was also a corrupt pdf. I copied the contents of my sd card to my computer, and formatted the card. I then added the files a few folders, at at time, until I found the culprit.
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LMMT said:
Yes, it is ridiculous. I've seen it many times. My problem was was also a corrupt pdf. I copied the contents of my sd card to my computer, and formatted the card. I then added the files a few folders, at at time, until I found the culprit.
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I think those pdf with illegible font like those mathematical formulas & Indian Devanagari/Sanskrit script is consider corrupt by Index service, which cause it to crash & stop. In crashing scenarios is better than letting Index service run, because it causes heat up & battery drain by letting it run. Where as "Unfortunately, IndexService has stopped." cause it to stop completely then no heat up & battery drain.
So may be temporary solution is to crash Index service to stop it as we I don't think there any other way to stop it without getting rooting.
What you think guys...?
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I think those pdf with illegible font like those mathematical formulas & Indian Devanagari/Sanskrit script is consider corrupt by Index service, which cause it to crash & stop. In crashing scenarios is better than letting Index service run, because it causes heat up & battery drain by letting it run. Where as "Unfortunately, IndexService has stopped." cause it to stop completely then no heat up & battery drain.
So may be temporary solution is to crash Index service to stop it as we I don't think there any other way to stop it without getting rooting.
What you think guys...?
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To the best of my knowledge, rooting is the only way to disable the service (without intentionally crashing it).
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LMMT said:
To the best of my knowledge, rooting is the only way to disable the service (without intentionally crashing it).
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hmmm, let see what future awaits for Index Service...euthanasia or manslaughter...
lol...
I don't wana make my warranty void by rooting in now, may be in future.
Samsung aware of this rampage caused havoc on user by indexservice? Hope they should release update soon. May be Kitkat has solution.
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Some body please suggest solution to this indexing problem...
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Look through the forums here for rooting instructions, then grab Titanium Backup and freeze index service, knox, sfinder and gallery. All your problems will go away!
Rich
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