I have updated from stock 1.48 ITA to stock 1.66 ITA, but since I had a lot of hacks and apps installed, I first made a backup with spb backup and after update I made a rom upgrade... All went quite well, apart from outlook push account which I had to re-establish, but recently i have noticed that at random very often the phone slows down considerably, especially when closing opera 9.7... Today I had to tap 6 times on a contact quicklink before being able to call... I have to add that I also had intalled CHT 1.8 and a few old HTC hotfixes released before rom 1.66, so I am wondering if any of this hotfixes, which I believe were imported during the restore of the backup, might be causing some problems... Although the rom upgrade mode in theory should verify system files and avoid replacing new files with older ones...
restoring a backup to a new rom is always troublesome, and rom upgrade mode is no exception. it doesn't work properly.
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Anyone tried this ROM yet? Does it have A2DP? I'm in office now, will try it myself tonight
ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship.zip
Thanks for heads up Linux!! It just finished downloading but I'm going to wait to see somebody else flash theirs first. I cross flashed my Dopod 818Pro with the previous AKU2 ROM update from Imate and I could'nt be happier with my device now so I don't want to muck it up until I know for sure!!
Please post tonight if you get a chance!!!!
Cheers,
voyager
I did not see the new ROM on the www.clubimate.com site. What is it supposed to offer? Having just gone though the pain of the last ROM upgrade, I would like to know what the new one offers before flashing.
It is there on clubimate.
and it says:
"Latest Release details:
The main improvements from the original Operating System, are:
Microsoft™ Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP):
Addition of the MSFP allowing Direct Push email, remote device wiping, GPRS data compression, security policy enforcement and integrated Global Address List Lookup for customers using a Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 with Service Pack 2. Note that Push email is only supported over GPRS.
Communication Manager
Communications Manager has been updated to allow current data services to be stopped, Direct Push email to be started/stopped using a single button press, and flight mode to be switched on/off."
That's the old one. This thread is about the new ROM that was posted today (or yesterday depending on your timezone):
04/06/2006 12:55PM 57,078,129 JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship.zip
Sorry, my mistake. I thought that the info was for the latest one.
Hey folks,
According to a post over on HoFo this update seems to just fix a few things from the earlier AKU2 ROM upgrade. They did not go into a lot of detail but one the fixes is improved battery management on the SD card. This would make sense to me. I have been running the first AKU2 ROM for the JAMin on my Dopod 818Pro for a week now.....one word, AWESOME dependabilty. The ONLY thing I noticed is that my battery power seemed to slide a bit faster with that ROM update. I think I'll wait though until some can confirm all the changes in this newest ROM offering.
Cheers!!
voyager
It seem to me they just change the radio ROM
No A2DP
I've just installed the ROM, unfortunately there's no A2DP. The battery indicator is also still located on top.
I bought this machine because A2DP was promised as a ROM upgrade. I even sold my O2 Atom and got this phone instead because I've read about the better sound and camera quality, despite the slower processor.
I really think HTC owes many of us out there an explanation for the lack of A2DP :x
Hi guys could anyone upload the file to the ftp of this site please
This rom fixes the slow SIP!! It also allows folder within the inbox to sync via exchange (I can't remember if the previous rom allowed for this or not?)
Iv'e been running this ROM for the last 24 hours and (crossing fingers) no soft reset or hang-up so far. Guess they found some bugs in the not so baked version released two weeks ago...
It's also a tad faster than the previous ROM.
Is it possible to restore all the data from a back up software like spb back up or sprite back up? Because for the first rom update when I try to restore from spb back up the JAMin crashed
im runing this on dopod 818 pro
i installed spb plus, and then reset, when it goes to windows, it just hang there. then i press reset again, it becomes ok...
it's weird, sometimes windows hang after reset.
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Is it possible to restore all the data from a back up software like spb back up or sprite back up? Because for the first rom update when I try to restore from spb back up the JAMin crashed
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Yes I am able to do a full restore from spb backup with the backup I've made on the previous imate rom. I think this is due to the fact that the OS rom version is the same as the previous rom, only the ext and radio version is newer
Very good news, I will update soon :lol:
ext rom
any idea what this is on the ext rom?
Default_MP_CVSDcpl_20060220
Just upgraded to the new ROM. Much, much snappier. Worth upgrading!
how can i pass the vender id problem??? it´s for an s200.
thanks
Is it unlocked?
I can read and write on \extended_rom with this new rom! Is this normal?
How can i unhide and mount the space? permantley?
After reboot the files are back again
I'm using Spb Backup to make full backups. So far it's OK I even tried to restore after HR and it always worked.
Recently I made another full backup and upgraded to the latest stock ROM from SE service site.
Made restore... I mean the full restore and now I'm trying to figure out did I ruin the ROM upgrade?
I do understand that Spb Backup doesn't change the ROM itself. But what happen when I restore the full backup made with previous R2A to my X1i upgraded to R3A? Does it somehow substitute system files of the newer WinMobile 6.1 R3A with older files from 6.1 R2A?
I don't want to use partial restores (PIM etc.) as soon as it's a long and difficult process to restore all the software and features installed.
Thanks in advice.
The general recommendation is to have a clean start on a new ROM and not to restore from backups - for precisely the reasons you say.
It is indeed a long chore to reinstall everything, but that's the safest way to ensure a clean start.
Some backup programs claim to be able to do upgrade restores, but I've never had much success with them.
Understood. Thanks.
this probably isn't much help but I recently put the r3a on a new xperia from this site then used spb to restore a previous backup from r2a on my previous phone straight from the exe backup (did not install spb backup first).
The only problem i encountered was having to reinstall 1 or 2 applications.
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I'm using Spb Backup to make full backups. So far it's OK I even tried to restore after HR and it always worked.
Recently I made another full backup and upgraded to the latest stock ROM from SE service site.
Made restore... I mean the full restore and now I'm trying to figure out did I ruin the ROM upgrade?
I do understand that Spb Backup doesn't change the ROM itself. But what happen when I restore the full backup made with previous R2A to my X1i upgraded to R3A? Does it somehow substitute system files of the newer WinMobile 6.1 R3A with older files from 6.1 R2A?
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This is an old and somewhat hoary question.
In short, ROM upgrades always re-organise chunks of the Registry from earlier ROM's. So restoring a previous backup over a ROM upgrade risks conflict with these changes
There are several safer methods for rebuilding on a new ROM:
1) use UC ... many, many posts on this + a 150+ page thread
2) there is a thread on this X1 sub-forum showing how to use a \2577 folder on the card to re-install CAB's as an automated process (Flashaholics Anonymous, I think)
3) if you have most apps installed on the card, a lot will run without re-installation, or at least just the addition of SN etc. Then they won't show up in the "Remove Programs" utility, but to de-install, just delete the folder from the card and then delete the shortcut.
I keep a relatively up-to-date copy of all \Windows\Start Menu\Programs shortcuts in a mirror folder set on the card so restoring these is simple
To test the differences in Registry, use the "Compare" function in the excellent freeware editor CeRegEditor
You will eventually find a bug if you restore a backup file after changing rom versions.
There is a "Force ROM update" mode in the options when you restore. I've never tried it because I like the idea of a clean install when i upgrade a ROM. But if your keen, give it ago.
Scott Whitmore said:
There is a "Force ROM update" mode in the options when you restore. I've never tried it because I like the idea of a clean install when i upgrade a ROM. But if your keen, give it ago.
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And report back with your findnings
I've always wanted to try it, but am too scared
That's a problem that I have no problems...
I restored full SpbBackup without "ROM restore". System reports it's R3A, but Windows Mobile version seems to be the same with R2A. Should it be the same or not?
First I upgraded, second - I restored my backup and only third - I decided to ask this question.
OK with another system Registry organization, I can understand it very well but why any major changes from any 6.1 to another 6.1?
Jumping from 6.1 to 6.5 may and should introduce completely new Registry hives.
Still after restoring full Spb Backup everything works fine, including Hebrew support and fonts, iGo8.3 with A-GPS, additional panels etc.
Anybody with stock [ENG] R3A, please report your Windows Mobile version?
It isn't the operating system that changes - it is all the configurations, tweaks and add-ons that change.
The base OS will still be WM6.1, but there are lots of things that HTC and SE have thrown in to customise the device, and change the look and feel of it, but underneath the hood it is still basically WM6.1.
Your problem will be that you took a backup of the R2AA version which will include lots of settings, registry tweaks, software versions and suchlike. When you restore this over R3AA then you might find that the new and (hopefully) improved R3AA settings/files/whatever get overwritten with the old R2AA settings/files/whatever.
You may be okay and never notice the difference, or you might run into any number of problems...freezes, lockups, crashes, instabilities...and you're unlikely to ever figure out why.
Hence, the generally accepted wisdom is to use backup restorations to test experimental ROM upgrades, but to install from scratch if you decide to settle on a different ROM.
I think the only thing that will harm your system is when you choose to merge the old registry values with the new one. It's all the registry settings that can get confused with the new ROM.
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It isn't the operating system that changes - it is all the configurations, tweaks and add-ons that change.
The base OS will still be WM6.1, but there are lots of things that HTC and SE have thrown in to customise the device, and change the look and feel of it, but underneath the hood it is still basically WM6.1.
Your problem will be that you took a backup of the R2AA version which will include lots of settings, registry tweaks, software versions and suchlike. When you restore this over R3AA then you might find that the new and (hopefully) improved R3AA settings/files/whatever get overwritten with the old R2AA settings/files/whatever.
You may be okay and never notice the difference, or you might run into any number of problems...freezes, lockups, crashes, instabilities...and you're unlikely to ever figure out why.
Hence, the generally accepted wisdom is to use backup restorations to test experimental ROM upgrades, but to install from scratch if you decide to settle on a different ROM.
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But isn't it fine to restore just emails, contacts, tasks?
Without all the tweaks, settings...
doministry said:
But isn't it fine to restore just emails, contacts, tasks?
Without all the tweaks, settings...
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Oh yes, that kind of stuff is alright - things like emails, PIM data and any other database files used by the software (stuff like saved game files, SplashID databases, saved settings for things like PhoneWeaver, PocketPlus etc).
If you sift through the backup and do selective restoration of just the databases then you should be fine.
It's mainly the registry settings you have to worry about, as poetryrocksalot says. However, you should also avoid restoring anything which comes with the HTC or SE customisations (such as panels, HTC task manager etc) because you risk losing newer software versions and could introduce incompatibilities between old/new files.
I downloaded the new rom from htc (1.66) and put it on my phone.
I then restored my backup (done with spb backup on 1.48 rom) and everything works fine.
When I turn on the phone the red numbers in the bottom left of the screen say that I have 1.66 but if I go in "software identity" in htc sense it says I have still 1.48.
who should I believe?
since there isn't any "visible" features in this new rom I'm quite unsure ^^'
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I downloaded the new rom from htc (1.66) and put it on my phone.
I then restored my backup (done with spb backup on 1.48 rom) and everything works fine.
When I turn on the phone the red numbers in the bottom left of the screen say that I have 1.66 but if I go in "software identity" in htc sense it says I have still 1.48.
who should I believe?
since there isn't any "visible" features in this new rom I'm quite unsure ^^'
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SPB backup will restore a registry value that holds the ROM number. It's there so that software doesn't have to query the ROM to see what version is running. Software just looks in the registry.
You do the ROM update and it changes it to 1.66. You then restore your backup and it puts it back to 1.48.
Believe the little red startup text - it never lies
You have 1.66 the backup will just have changed some registry settings i expect. I think most people would advise against restoring backups from old roms on to new roms. Can cause some weird problems when it changes stuff back.
I just you MS MyPhone to make sure i don't lose my messages. I restore settings myself.
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You have 1.66 the backup will just have changed some registry settings i expect. I think most people would advise against restoring backups from old roms on to new roms. Can cause some weird problems when it changes stuff back.
I just you MS MyPhone to make sure i don't lose my messages. I restore settings myself.
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+1 to MyPhone.
bzdemes said:
You have 1.66 the backup will just have changed some registry settings i expect. I think most people would advise against restoring backups from old roms on to new roms. Can cause some weird problems when it changes stuff back.
I just you MS MyPhone to make sure i don't lose my messages. I restore settings myself.
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I always used spb backup when I changed roms on my old touch hd without any problem (they were all miri's rom) so I thought it wouldn't be any problem using 2 official roms.
however everything works fine, it only seems that my old backup changed the rom number displayed in htc sense, I can live with that xD
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I have just restored my HD2 with SPB Backup after upgrading to 1.66 like before however this time the restore didnt detect the new rom version. I used the "Force ROM upgrade" option on the full restore and hey presto!
Even so no restore will be perfect and I do notice some other issues; I use SPB Mobile Shell rather than sense, and HTC messaging text is in a huge font since the upgrade. If anyone has a suggestion how to tweak the font I will be much obliged!
If I upagrade my ROM in my O2 HD2 (currently 1.43 wwe) to V1.66:-
1] Can I restore all my programs from a backup using the latest SPB Backup? There is a Force ROM Upgrade Mode option so I assume that this is what it is for? I want to restore all my programs not just PIM info.
2] If I can't do the above is there a way of backup/restoring sense settings i.e. Phone groups etc.??
3] Is there much difference in the sense interface (currently 2.519202525.0)?
Thanks in advance
anyone???????????
I don't have SPB but I did upgrade recently and here's what I did:
I used Microsoft My Phone to back up all my contacts and sms. It works great but you will have to manually redo your more personalised settings along with installing your programs again. I personally found this to be advantageous as I had a load of useless stuff on there that I didn't bother installing this time around.
I have not noticed a large difference with the newer Sense, I think 2.xx ROM will bring the major changes with the ebook reader tab and so forth.
Hope it helps.
Hey guys,
In the "About My Phone" section in the settings it says that my ROM version is 1.48 when I just updated to the 1.66 version. I used SPB Backup to backup and restore all my files and settings...could that have caused it to change? When I reset my phone though the main HTC startup screen said 1.66.
WHY!!!!!!!!!!
Yes.
You should do a full backup/restore only on the same ROM, not when flashing a different one. Otherwise it will overwrite some system files with the ones of the old ROM.
dont worry about it, it is only entries in teh registry, the files themselves will most likely be fine for the most part.
However if you notice anything odd in teh next day or so, do a new backup, of just your data, not the registry so much, and do a hard reset.
Or just dont use backup tools, there mostly anoying, just make sure you have a sync source, and an autoinstall for the apps.
Quicker, easier, and less likely to cause issues than backup tools