FREE SPB TV for WM - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Themes and Apps

SPB has gone to freeware for their mobile TV software:
http://spb.com/pocketpc-software/tv/download.html?
I tested it and it works fine, but at my current location I have to use low definition.

"Hi"Def (350Kbps) is certainly an improvement over the lower (150?100? kbps), but I find that some channels skip with it. The classic (old B&W mainly) SciFi and Comedy channels (forgotten the names, sorry) for example. Other channels are OK. You often get a few seconds of audio before video appears, and then first second or two of video is jerkier than what follows. Basically don't write off a channel until you've viewed it for at least 10-15 seconds. The skipping stops on lower bandwidth version.
I'm not sure whether the video/audio skipping I mentioned will happen to all people, or whether they have a lot of packets dropping on the way to Kazakhstan. Can't be bothered find stream addresses and trace routing, but something to try another day.
Oh, using WiFi onto a 1Mbit ADSL line btw, no 3G out here, so not able to test Edge quality.

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watch tv anywhere :)

hi people
i just searched for this to see if anyone has done this
i have been watching my satelite on my xda stellar fo a few months now thought i would share how easy it is
all you need is firstly a good upload speed mine is 1.6 meg but 400-500kbs
would work
a tv card with compisite in ( signal from satelite )
audio in (audio from satelite ) rca phono lead to 3.5 jack plug earphones socket
windows media encoder if you have not got it its here
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/encoder/default.mspx
if anyone is intrested i would gladly tell you the rest of it but really this is all you need
for copyright reasons i cant show you my satelite but if you want to check out my fish pond type in this url mms://www.d4rea.co.uk:2976
or on your phone its the same address but as with all of these streams to a phone you must type a /* on the end of the url
so it would be mms://www.d4rea.co.uk:2976/* and it starts streaming on your phone
ENJOY
DREA
can't we already do this with orb?
Slingbox
I do this just fine with my slingbox mobile player.
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can't we already do this with orb?
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I can't. it doesn 't like my onboard TV tuner.
Seems like a great idea.
But my Upload speed is limited and slow, and my Mobile Internet too.
So...I can't do this.
Though I'm interested knowing the rest of your story
I have tried orb long long time ago, had and used a slingbox but that is why i thought i`m doing this myself
my satalite has its own web interface on so i log in to my ip anywhere to switch channels over but it then still streams through wm encoder at a much reduced bandwith i have o2 20 meg broadband home and at work so i encode wm encoder to upload 1.3mb ps and watch whatever on work pc and 300kbs upload goes to my xda stellar

Stream Video over Wifi

Hi Guys,
Not 100% sure this is the correct forum, but feel free to move me if its not
I am currently working on a small project, which as a added extra I would like to stream video to my pc from my Winmo device. So far I have found Qik and ustream, but at best it has a 3 second delay, and these stream to their servers and then output on the webpage. Is there a way to stream the video from my touch pro to the computer, by either wifi, or bluetooth (as i am trying to reduce the delay to 1 second)
Thanks in advance,
Hellios

Anyone using a HD2 + Slinbox to watch TV or satellite on their mobile?

Just interested to see what the results are like as I'll be getting my HD2 in a weeks time...
There are several threads on Slingbox
Just search and you will find. It works fine on HD2 depending on your box connection speeds and your current data status.
I know (from searching) it's possible, but I was wondering specifically about members on this forum who used this method and whether they were happy with it...
I use my slingbox classic and sling mobile v1.6 on my HD2 regularly. The results are good and it works well but obviously depend on your connection.
Annoyingly you can't view completely in full screen using sling mobile v1.6 so if I want to watch "live" TV then I use MyPlayer as that can do full full screen and the streaming quality is a little better.
i use it almost every day at work and its great over wifi and even 3g if needed. SD feeds look better and have a larger viewable area than HD feeds. it look good as long as there isnt any text, which can look nasty (notably, sportscenter or headline news gets iffy)
i use 1.5 with a slingbox av and a solo...and i have to use a 21xxx rom because the 23xxx roms don't show all the buttons on the hd2 (though it was fine on all prior phones for some reason)
Thanks guys for the feedback
I'll have to investigate about MyPlayer - sounds good.
I did mean to say I would be only using Wi-Fi and that I only have SD (I live in Spain and receive UK FreeSAT)
I am using Slingbox
classic and sling mobile v1.6.0.1 on my HD2 as well. I get much better reception with this version as compared to the later versions as it has more access to the image controls. In landscape I get full screen, but in the square aspect ratio. There is no way to change this in 1.6. I also have found that the lower channels on my cable come in much worse than higher channels for some reason. Could be the tuner in the no longer supported classic. Later software version go full landscape I believe, but the quality is not as good and no controls. I am sure this has cut down on their support calls, but the quality suffers. My Fox News channel is almost as clear using H data stream as it is on the home set. I have it set to optimize at High action. If you have later versions of the slingbox hardware you need the later software to control your media units. All I need to do is change channels.
No one here using v2? Much nicer on my HD2. Just upgraded my slingbox to the HD version as well. Keen to see what the difference in quality is like.

Linking 5 cars via tether for streaming

Wud up doh ladies.
Heres my predicament, my buds and i are driving up to daytona for SBN (spring break nationals, a bass competition) and were basically driving in a caravan.
Each car has at least 5000 rms and up to 15000 rms. (watts)
What we thought would be epic was for me to be djing off of a laptop on the way there, connected via ustream and all 5 cars tuning in to my stream allowing us to play the exact same songs at the exact same time from the 5 vehicles making you be able to hear us from a mile or so away
Predicament. To my knowledge, we have an ipad with ability to tether and nothing else as or right now considering i havent really looked too far into it.
However, We do have a power converter in one of the vehicles allowing us to use a wall outlet essentially.
I was entertaining the idea to have a router connected and to be streaming via a shoutcast server over LAN but im unaware of any app that allows you to tune into shoutcast radios being broadcast over a lan on itouch or ipad or iphone or android for that matter. I am aware that winamp allows you to plug in your listening IP but i have never tested it to work over lan nor on an android and i dont believe its on iphone etc.
So my alternative was to leech internet off the ipad, but if the caravan is 5 cars long, will all cars be able to reach the signal from the ONE ipad, and will that ipad have enough bandwidth to have me dj (upstream, upload) and 5 devices stream (downstream, download). Audio will be streamed at 48kbps if i remember correctly so the bandwidth required ISNT massive however over 5 devices i believe it might be an issue.
if the bandwidth is sufficent i was entertaining the ability to attempt to use the ipad as a WAP (Wireless access point) connected via the router then have an antenna from the router on the roof of the car to boost distance you can pick up the signal from.
WTB ANSWERS, i have 3 weeks to get this to happen
I doubt very seriously the wifi antenna in the iPad is capable of handling this sort of abuse.
You might be able to do it with a laptop and a wireless AP in infrastructure mode and have multiple clients connect to that system.
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Wud up doh ladies.
Heres my predicament, my buds and i are driving up to daytona for SBN (spring break nationals, a bass competition) and were basically driving in a caravan.
Each car has at least 5000 rms and up to 15000 rms. (watts)
What we thought would be epic was for me to be djing off of a laptop on the way there, connected via ustream and all 5 cars tuning in to my stream allowing us to play the exact same songs at the exact same time from the 5 vehicles making you be able to hear us from a mile or so away
Predicament. To my knowledge, we have an ipad with ability to tether and nothing else as or right now considering i havent really looked too far into it.
However, We do have a power converter in one of the vehicles allowing us to use a wall outlet essentially.
I was entertaining the idea to have a router connected and to be streaming via a shoutcast server over LAN but im unaware of any app that allows you to tune into shoutcast radios being broadcast over a lan on itouch or ipad or iphone or android for that matter. I am aware that winamp allows you to plug in your listening IP but i have never tested it to work over lan nor on an android and i dont believe its on iphone etc.
So my alternative was to leech internet off the ipad, but if the caravan is 5 cars long, will all cars be able to reach the signal from the ONE ipad, and will that ipad have enough bandwidth to have me dj (upstream, upload) and 5 devices stream (downstream, download). Audio will be streamed at 48kbps if i remember correctly so the bandwidth required ISNT massive however over 5 devices i believe it might be an issue.
if the bandwidth is sufficent i was entertaining the ability to attempt to use the ipad as a WAP (Wireless access point) connected via the router then have an antenna from the router on the roof of the car to boost distance you can pick up the signal from.
WTB ANSWERS, i have 3 weeks to get this to happen
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Sounds like a pretty sweet idea dude! If I were in your shoes, I would create a powerful, rolling, WiFi LAN. Here's how I would do it:
Here's what you would need:
VLC (it's free)
A really powerful wireless router with external antenna's
Make sure the laptop you're going to be performing the broadcast from has its own wired network adapter
What you would do:
Connect your laptop up to the WAN port of the wireless router (the same port that you would normally connect your Cable Modem/DSL/FiOS). This is because you want your laptop to be set up as the default gateway for that LAN.
I would perform the broadcast from the middle car in the caravan for the best signal to the rest of the vehicles, possibly even use external antenna's (like, external to the car itself, not just the router) for the best possible signal quality.
Set up a local VLC streaming server on the laptop. This way you can make the stream much higher bandwidth and higher quality. Everyone can tune into with their own VLC client's, whether on other laptops, or iOS/Android devices with VLC.
Done correctly, this setup won't even require an internet connection, as everything will be done via the local network. That said, if the broadcasting laptop has a mobile connection tethered up to it, then everyone can benefit from that if they wanted to.
Overall, the mobile WLAN idea, in conjunction with a local VLC broadcast, will afford you the best audio quality along with the highest degree of reliability, as you won't need to worry about dead spots in the mobile coverage. Also, this method will yield the lowest latency (because they'd all be on the same local network), so for everyone in the caravan, their stereo's will more likely be playing the same thing at the same time as opposed to everyone playing the same thing, but all at different parts depending on their cellular network conditions.
What do you think?
Will the router do it? Unless it's a real piece of junk, yes. (And by junk I don't mean something selling new for $19.99, I mean something real cheap. Even a $20 router should handle 5 audio streams without waking up.)
Will the idea work? Not the way you want. There will be a delay of up to a few seconds between the streams to each car. All the cars can hear the same song at (within a couple of seconds at most) the same time. But close enough that there's no echo? No.
Connect a computer's web browser to a web audio source (police scanner, or anything else where the source doesn't start by your connecting to it, like a podcast will). Connect your phone to the same source (using its browser). Notice that there's a delay between them.
Nothing you can do about it - that's just how streaming works these days. Maybe for SBN 2025.
With encoding and decoding of digital audio streams, signal quality, et cetera.. you'll find it hard to achieve a truly synchronized stream. With new ATSC broadcast standards, even television sets in my household are off-sync; there is an echo.
Here's where analog synchronization comes in. It might seem very old-fashioned, but you could use an FM transmitter for this. I don't know much about them, but be aware of FCC regulations here in the states. You'll need a fairly high-power one and an omnidirectional antenna. Plan on a nice big investment, too!
Some cons to an FM transmitter:
1. Reliability: it's RARE that you'll find a vacant station in a metro area. Broadcasting over live stations is illegal, and requires a LOT more power than you can get in a portable FM transmitter.
2. Security: the music stream is unprotected. Just about anyone nearby could pick up your station and use YOUR tunes.
3. Vulnerability: it's possible that someone else could bring a more powerful FM transmitter, and broadcast Justin Bieber to your five vehicles (yikes!)
It'd probably be easier to store local copies of the music in each vehicle and use a network connection to handle synchronizing hitting the "Play" buttons.
But you'd probably have to write a whole new application.
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With encoding and decoding of digital audio streams, signal quality, et cetera.. you'll find it hard to achieve a truly synchronized stream. With new ATSC broadcast standards, even television sets in my household are off-sync; there is an echo.
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Ya, anything that encodes and decodes is very likely to do it at a slightly different rate, so synchronization would be very difficult. Even if you could get them started at the same time, they will probably slip out of sync after some time, too. This goes for the idea of just pushing "play" at the same time. Music playing at slightly different rates may sound the same to us, but will shortly fall out of sync.
dfc849 said:
Some cons to an FM transmitter:
1. Reliability: it's RARE that you'll find a vacant station in a metro area. Broadcasting over live stations is illegal, and requires a LOT more power than you can get in a portable FM transmitter.
2. Security: the music stream is unprotected. Just about anyone nearby could pick up your station and use YOUR tunes.
3. Vulnerability: it's possible that someone else could bring a more powerful FM transmitter, and broadcast Justin Bieber to your five vehicles (yikes!)
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On the other hand, to broadcast only a few hundred feet you could probably get something at a computer store that would handle it. I know I picked up a $10 FM transmitter meant for iPods and CD players to connect them to a car stereo. It transmits from my computer to my stereo about 50ft away with no problem, though I haven't tested the limits. It would be easy enough to just plug it into your DJ machine and set all the cars to the same radio station. You could try sticking it to the top of the car and see how far away the other cars still get a clear signal. If it's not enough, you could probably pop it open and extend the antenna a little and get better range.
Where are you driving UP from? Cuba? All of that for a 4 hour trip if you are as far South as Miami?
xpather that
Cool idea
i'd go with analog, i.e. FM transmitter
You ought to have good line of sight on the other members of your caravan.. While I'd recommend keeping the DJ in the center of the pack, even if all five cars were strung along you ought to get good signal from front to back. Just don't get too separated (finding ways to manage that is half the fun of caravaning).
I'll echo what was said above and recommend you preload your songs on all the devices. Streaming synchronized audio is simply impractical. *Playing* all the songs at the same times might be more doable. Maybe. Your mileage may vary, etc etc.

Quality loss problem

For some reason apps that allow me to watch videos online from streams has quality loss on the nexus 7. Like crunchyroll for an example and other apps. It seems like I'm only having this problem because others have a nexus 7 and didn't have this problem. Theres like a color issue or something. Is my nexus 7 a defect or something?
Some streaming applications automatically detect available bandwidth/latency and downgrade image quality or frame rate automatically, or switch to a more lossy codec.
So, from what you have said, it is very hard to say - it could just be that you have a poor internet connection (bandwidth, latency, or drop-outs).
Two ways to tell -
Find another N7 user and have them try the same operation while using YOUR WiFi connection, or
Download an entire movie and play it without using internet streaming - a hardware problem that has nothing to do with the internet should show up whether you are streaming or not.
good luck
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Some streaming applications automatically detect available bandwidth/latency and downgrade image quality or frame rate automatically, or switch to a more lossy codec.
So, from what you have said, it is very hard to say - it could just be that you have a poor internet connection (bandwidth, latency, or drop-outs).
Two ways to tell -
Find another N7 user and have them try the same operation while using YOUR WiFi connection, or
Download an entire movie and play it without using internet streaming - a hardware problem that has nothing to do with the internet should show up whether you are streaming or not.
good luck
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When I use youtube its fine. Theres no quality loss.

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