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Hi.
I'm very surprised that there are no sample videos recorded with Xperia available (30fps VGA video recordings). Exceptions are old video captures made with older firmware. Those are not great quality (compared to e.g. INNOV8).
Do somebody know where to find some video samples made with retail model of Xperia (or could someone made one in full quality so I can consider this capability ) ?
Thanx.
Note: The X1i (Euro version) of the phone is the only one that supports 30FPS VGA video. The USA version (X1a) supports 24fps QVGA recording, similar to past ericsson phones.
Also the X1i uses h.264 where as the X1a does not. Video recording quality on the international version will be about double the quality you will see on a US-Spec model.
Point being, if you are in the USA looking to get this phone you're not going to see the same quality from samples released now since the phone just started shipping the UK,Germany,Sweden etc.
Thanks for info.
I'm from EU. I've seen a few samples in VGA/30 fps from Xperia, but also these were not on par with INNOV8 (on the other side, I must admit INNOV8 has "shocking" quality of video recording). INNOV8 is not in the market yet (or it was released at the same time as Xperia) and there are a lot of video samples from users on the web (incl. you tube).
I would be satisfied if recording quality of X1 is moderately better than the sample I've seen a long time ago.
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Here are older video samples recorded with Xperia for you...
http://rapidshare.com/files/152771311/MOV_0001.3gp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qzIPU4OPgM
new video sample from Xperia X1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t49YH-Sal-0
(unfortunately, hard to judge because of YouTube compression)
...and here's an even newer one, this one is good because he checks different things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSxhocKo_YA
video capture
Just a thought.
The video capture on the youtube videos seems ok but the quality of the sound doesn't seem much better than an am radio.
Maybe I won't ditch my n95 just yet...
here is one of newest samples...
http://content.modaco.net/catdocumentary.3gp
(from http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=273984&pid=924277&mode=threaded&start=)
should be original, no youtube resampled
IF THIS SAMPLE IS GENUINE, XPERIA DEFINITELY HAS MY RESPECT !!!
rudo3 said:
here is one of newest samples...
http://content.modaco.net/catdocumentary.3gp
(from http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=273984&pid=924277&mode=threaded&start=)
should be original, no youtube resampled
IF THIS SAMPLE IS GENUINE, XPERIA DEFINITELY HAS MY RESPECT !!!
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Wow! that is great.
this is another one...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irOnX59HDBI
(but only "you tube quality")
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new set of video samples...
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mov_0002.3gp
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mov_0055.3gp
great quality IMHO
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new set of video samples...
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mov_0002.3gp
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mov_0055.3gp
great quality IMHO
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Hmmm, not bad at all. I had this horrible feeling it was going to suck as every HTC phone I have seen made it look like HTC were allergic to decent cameras. I had hoped that SE would insist on something better than your average HTC phone though.
forget movies @640x480, thats thumb cinema.
if you have a lot of light, the framerate will increase, but at fast movements, the picture will go very blocky (distorted and unshape). its absolutly not comparable to nokia n95.
it`s horrible, like all htc devices. i hoped that sony will insert a hardware codec and/or sony/zeiss lenses, in view of the good name of cybershot. BUT NOTHING OF THEM :-(((
but the cam it`s comparable to the diamond`s cam.
photos are ok and better than n95`s pictures!really!, if you remove the battery cover of the diamond. (diamond`s lens will have better view without battery cover`s plastic lens)
but the videofunktion is realised only by software codecs, like all htc wm 6.1 devices.
that stinks and suxx! lol
cheapcheating. i will give 10 bucks more, when htc will insert hardware video encoding of vga res or more with 30 fps *G
and i saw the x1 will save as 3gp, what about h264 vids? most 3gp has got only 15 fps
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Quality of video capture is not that bad at all.
Definitely way better than that of HTC Touch/PRO/HD.
its not better than diamonds capture quality. its equal
and the diamond can store the vids as mp4.
i can`t find on my x1 the function to select storing codec.
(an other vid cap application could fix thiz)
looks pretty good, but the youtube samples of the INNOV8 still look miles ahead...
but what the hell, its not meant to be a cam after all
i dont have to look @ youtube.
i filmed with my own x1. and at vga it suxxx.
when you move, its very blocky and you got a lot of lost frames.
tho years old n95 takes 30 frame vga videos under all conditions.
(low light/fast movement)
useless to talk about filming in low light conditions with x1 @640x480.
its slideshow style. and if u using low light option, 1-2 pictures will
taken, and what you see is only blur/swirl effect.
and the LED lamp .... :-((
For me, quality of these samples is more than sufficient...
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/up...0/mov_0055.3gp
http://content.modaco.net/catdocumentary.3gp
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/up...0/mov_0055.3gp
Of course there are better mobiles for video capturing (innov, renoir, pixon,...). But in no way you can capture comparable video with Touch Pro or with (e.g.) C905.
the only video i can download is the second one.
the video is fluid, but in daylight filmed.
and take a closer look to the movie. while moving, its very blocky and very unclear.
(set player to pause,and slide with the timeline slider. view captures from randomly tryed timemarks. then you will see, what i mean.
but a lot of people cant see the artefacts in realtime. i am an advanced videoviewer/computerfreak, and it hurts me!!!in realtime viewing,too!)
temporarly a can`t take photos or video outside, because i`ve hurt
my legs and can`t stand longer then 2-3 seconds. :-(
but next few days, everything went`s okay, i will take some
demo mov/pix for you. and than remind my words.
and take a closer look the the used audiocodec.... 8khz mono.
and exactly this will it hear like.... :-((( on nokia phones it`s much better.
hopefully, we can wait for software updates, or registry hacks (samplingrate/other codec).
the sound recording quality in video mode is POOR!
but, this only a result of the samplingrate. with other audio recording tools
with samplingrate @44,1, the quality is very good.
I was surprised when I hooked the phone up to my wd live plus on a 720p tv and saw the quality (for what it was, a cellphone). Here's a couple links of the test shots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frbT3hs3KYc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmFQe40w4UQ
It sure beats the crap outta the moment's camera.
Sorry about the settings. I recorded in 720 but it's only going as high as 480 when I play it back. This is my first time uploading video to youtube so I don't know all the ins and outs.
awesome quality videos man.,.. i commented
youtube likes to convert it to low res for compatability, and after about 30-40 mins it will have the HD vers
Here's a video test indoor looking out a window at 720p. Figure it's semi on topic. I'm pretty impressed by the epic's camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIwnQDCzwko
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Here's a video test indoor looking out a window at 720p. Figure it's semi on topic. I'm pretty impressed by the epic's camera.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIwnQDCzwko
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****in AMAZING
I should record the same thing at the same time, side by side with the evo and epic. I don't know how to do that neat effect of either splitting both in half and paste one half on the other. I suppose an easier thing would be full video side by side at the same time. I erl have to find out how that effect is done.
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i will try to do a side by side comparison of the 2 devices.. you have to do some type of adapter so you can record both at the same time. Lets see what i can do. and hope that i dont loss quality in the conversion
What surprises me is that there doesn't seem to be much difference between 480 and 720 record modes. I shot a quick video showing my new roller rockers on my car with the epic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWJBtAfs3CQ
It takes pretty good video I think.
Lanikai beach in hawaii w/ epic 4g. I figured i'd post this on XDA forums too, sorry about the sound it's only windy at the start. This was just a quick test to see how clear it was without changing any settings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV6PiSqDhfU&hd=1
Pretty cool, I thought about doing this myself.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...n-sprint-htc-evo-4g-recorded-by-lauren-rainey
She's definitely an evo fangirl.
Saw this a few minutes ago, not bad at all.
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Pretty cool, I thought about doing this myself.
hxxp://community.sprint.com/baw/community/sprintblogs/buzz-by-sprint/announcements/blog/2011/03/09/first-country-music-video-on-sprint-htc-evo-4g-recorded-by-lauren-rainey
She's definitely an evo fangirl.
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Shot - Maybe.
Composed/edited - Definitely not.
Dump crappy video into a great editing program and you can turn out a relatively acceptable video. As a commenter on that blog stated:
oma said:
if this has been shot on an Evo, how is it in 1080p? the Evo has terrible compression for HD and is only able to record in 720 with an mp4 container, 480p is ED (enhanced definition) and its the only high quality option as it uses h.264 compression and even then recording in 480p is terrible, the phone drops frames, the sensor struggles with lighting, Ive had an evo since launch, ive had no problems with it, i love this phone but honestly the quality of this video is still better then what an evo is capable of, they may have upscaled 480p to 720 and 1080 but even then there would be some pretty bad artifacts, 720 mode's compression is just too heavy to produce quality HD
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Would love to hear her production company's reaction to that....
how is this possible...i under stand the video quality but as far as the sound?!?!
when i try and record audio with my evo it sounds like utter CRAP! the evo cant handle loud noises at concerts AT ALL. the iphone 4 on the other hand can record loud concerts like a charm!
Warrior 3000 said:
how is this possible...i under stand the video quality but as far as the sound?!?!
when i try and record audio with my evo it sounds like utter CRAP! the evo cant handle loud noises at concerts AT ALL. the iphone 4 on the other hand can record loud concerts like a charm!
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Um, it's a music video, i.e. a video with the sound being the actual song. The song obviously was recorded in a studio, not on the evo.
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how is this possible...i under stand the video quality but as far as the sound?!?!
when i try and record audio with my evo it sounds like utter CRAP! the evo cant handle loud noises at concerts AT ALL. the iphone 4 on the other hand can record loud concerts like a charm!
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all music videos use the final recorded production audio, most times a lot of directors will have the music playing in the background to help the artist keep the timing, and also that was my post on the sprint forum..haha, not that it matters at all, i just dont like it because this video will easily spread mis-information about the evo's capabilities and i generally find it somewhat underhanded when a company does that
I also noticed there wasn't a lot of movement in the video, that helps with the smoother and clearer picture. And yea all music videos have the studio or pre recorded audio over the original recordings and synced, its not that difficult to do, even for the iPhone user
The Evo's video looks like ass for anything other than videos of your friends/family (i.e. camcorder ****). There's no reason to ever record anything professional with it unless you're using the gimmick of shooting on a phone. Nobody would ever have watched this if it were not shot on the Evo. I take personal offense to things like this because ****ty cameras that can shoot "HD VIDEO OMG" are being used in place of actual cameras like the Arri Alexa, driving down production costs/budgets, reducing quality of produced material in general, oversaturating the market with poorly shot material, and ultimately, driving MY paycheck down. Put the god damn time and money into concept/story/quality and stop ****ing around with cheap, flash-in-the-pan technogarbage.
Forgot to mention, I work on movies, I'm a gaffer
She was just trying to do something different, and some unknown artist like herself probably isn't working with a big budget in the first place. I also wouldn't be surprised if sprint helped out with the production costs. Don't hate if its putting her name out there and getting plays, there are other people out there that made a music video with an evo, but this is by far the best quality and most professional I've seen yet.
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The Evo's video looks like ass for anything other than videos of your friends/family (i.e. camcorder ****). There's no reason to ever record anything professional with it unless you're using the gimmick of shooting on a phone. Nobody would ever have watched this if it were not shot on the Evo. I take personal offense to things like this because ****ty cameras that can shoot "HD VIDEO OMG" are being used in place of actual cameras like the Arri Alexa, driving down production costs/budgets, reducing quality of produced material in general, oversaturating the market with poorly shot material, and ultimately, driving MY paycheck down. Put the god damn time and money into concept/story/quality and stop ****ing around with cheap, flash-in-the-pan technogarbage.
Forgot to mention, I work on movies, I'm a gaffer
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Calm down bro, it was just for fun. I hope you still enjoy the fun of your job, since thats what you do daily, right>?
Warrior 3000 said:
how is this possible...i under stand the video quality but as far as the sound?!?!
when i try and record audio with my evo it sounds like utter CRAP! the evo cant handle loud noises at concerts AT ALL. the iphone 4 on the other hand can record loud concerts like a charm!
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This made me El oh El.
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As you all know by now, today HTC and Sprint announced the release date for the HTC EVO 4G LTE.
I am excited as anyone about this phone. However, there is one area that I am VERY disapointed about: video recording quality.
In my opinion, HTC has so far been un-able to make a cell phone that can record good quality HD video. It's even more puzzling since apparently both HTC and Sprint were really promoting the camera on the phone at the press event today.
I have no issue with the quality of the still photos - my original EVO takes pretty good stills.
I saw a sample of video shot with the European version of One X, and it suffers from the same issue as my EVO - jerky video!
Shot in 1080p outdoors, at the highest quality setting, the video looks as if it were shot at around 20fps rather than 30fps. Pans and objects moving across the screen were jerky.
My EVO has always had this issue, which has prevented me from shooting much video with it. The camera is great, but I want to be able to carry a camcorder with me always. My mom's two year old Epic Galaxy S has been able to shoot smooth HD video from day one, and I've always envied it.
There is no video I can shoot with my EVO that I would want to burn to DVD or shoot important events with, like birthdays, holidays, etc.
Some bigwig from HTC was quoted comparing the One X's camera with that of the iPhone 4S. But I know the 4S shoots smooth HD video as well.
I'll probably at least go into Sprint and check it out myself, but I don't expect to have different results then that fromthe reviewer.
Have any of you (who can review video quality with a critical eye) noticed what I'm talking about?
I don't understand why HTC can't get video recording right!
Didn't notice the recording problem on my EVO, but could be the ROM I'm using. Also on the new One X, the videos I've seen look amazing. Don't know which one you saw, but I thought it looked great. Perhaps issues uploading or the video stabilization was turned on in the video you saw? It's not going to be like a 60 fps camcorder, but if that's what you are expecting out of a tiny phone camera, your expectations may be too high.
What other phone has better video? Looks the same as iphone 4S video and no one complains about that. A small sensor has limitations and it isn't going to get better when you post it to youtube and they compress it. No phone is going to make quality DVDs for your events. What's wrong with getting a camcorder with a sensor twice the size or a triple sensor if you have the funds? Seems they are getting video recording done just as well as any other phone to me. These are phones.
Well, maybe I'm a bit more critical than most. I work in video and perhaps my eye is more sensitive to the various aspects of video.
I'm not talking about sharpness, contrast, color saturation, etc.
As I mentioned, both the iPhone 4/4S and Samsung's Galaxy line of phones do not have this issue.
Try this: film 20 seconds of either relatively close fast moving objects like car traffic, or else pan in a circle at a somewhat faster than pleasing speed.
If you look closely, you will see very slight jumping in the video. It's not going to jump out at you (excuse the pun).
It's not a compression issue, that would result in a more blurry or pixelated image.
I realize we're talking cell phones. But both Apple and Samsung do not have this issue. I REALLY want to love the EVO LTE, I'm eligible for an upgrade in June!
Video recording on my evo was horrible as well ...like unusable horrible ..super choppy and laggy all the time. My brothers was exactly the same. My phone was rooted flashed multiple roms, video was always choppy... brothers phone never rooted...video was always choppy
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No I gotcha, I'm critical as well. That's why I wouldn't use ANY phone for capturing video for an important event. A camcorder is the only thing that will do.
However the samples I've seen look every bit as good as the iphone 4s or samsung videos. Of course the One X does seem more geared towards photos and have to say it definitely beats the others there. Also if you pause the One X videos you can still clearly see everything and even grab a frame as a picture. The Samsung videos get blurry so I wouldn't try it with the Nexus. Can't say I notice any change in fluidity from iphone 4S videos to One X videos, but again I don't know which video you are talking about. If there is any difference it is slight. All phones have this issue as they are just not going to match the smoothness of a quality camcorder and definitely not professional camcorders. Even then I notice the difference with motion interpolation on high refresh 120 hz and 240 hz TV's so I know what you are saying.
Perhaps best to withhold judgment about video on phone that isn't out yet. Once it's on youtube it just isn't going to look as good.
EDIT: I did find a One X video that looked horrible, it was a close up and the exposure was constantly changing, but did notice jumpiness when panning. Can't tell if it was due to being uploaded on youtube, but if it did happen on the phone it looks like it is having trouble with quickly writing to memory. It doesn't do it constantly so that may be the issue. When you have trouble with your EVO 4G are you directly shooting video to the SD Card? That may be your problem. The lag causes a frame to be skipped here or there. A larger buffer would correct this issue (well until it fills) or higher memory bandwidth. This also happens when uploading videos or converting the file format. Perhaps a result of poor conversion from RAW to 3gp. Still I wouldn't worry about it as there is a way to go until June and the hardware version may change. If there is an issue I'm sure they are aware of it.
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When you have trouble with your EVO 4G are you directly shooting video to the SD Card? That may be your problem. The lag causes a frame to be skipped here or there. A larger buffer would correct this issue (well until it fills) or higher memory bandwidth. This also happens when uploading videos or converting the file format.
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Well, yes. the EVO has so little internal storage, and video file sizes are large compared to other file types.
But then, my mom's Samsung also wrote directly to the SD card, and it's still very smooth.
I will try to find that example I was speaking about and post a link. It was shot outdoors in daylight, near a flower stand if I remember correctly.
And for sure I will definitely check it out myself before writing the phone off.
As far as the phone not having the same quality as a "real" camcorder, sure. but you know the old saying, "The best camera is the one you have with you". My phone is ALWAYS with me. And I do think the quality is getting to the point where I can shoot casual everyday stuff that I may want to archive for the future, even edit.
Here is a link to the sample I was referring to.
This is from the HTC One X, which I believe has the same camera as todays announced EVO LTE. Pay particular attention to the panning at about the 1:10 mark.
And this phone has no SD card, so it was recorded to the internal memory.
Also, while you may wish to blame YouTube, this is how video recorded on my two year old EVO looks.
http://youtu.be/xOv4tjB7HMQ
Better than the one I found, but SD Card or not that is still the issue. I know that the version of the One X used for this does not have an SD Card. The Sprint one will. Either way, uploading it to youtube can cause this problem as well. And if you record to your SD Card on your 2 year old EVO and use a slow card you will see this as well. That may be your issue though it isn't for the One X. If it's internal then another phone might be your best option.
These are frames that get skipped either due to trouble encoding, small buffer, or memory speed problems. The iphones never seem to have this issue like Androids do (probably due to all the stuff running in the background and iOS's control over apps). Can tell when it happens in the video and it starts skipping. It's the same as when you are video conferencing and frames get dropped due to bandwidth. This isn't normal and guessing they would be on that. As far as the rest, still looks as jagged as any other phone with motion. If you use post processing it can help.
Here's on I saw that looked about as decent as other phone videos
One X 1080p sample
with cars going by like you mentioned. Have to say it looks clear when you pause on passing cars. Fast pans aren't going to impress on any phone (or many camcorders in my experience) and I don't know what else to say about it. Hopefully they fix what is bothering you and if not I guess you gotta go with another phone.
OK, you got me motivated to check out several youtube videos. I will give you the YouTube effect. Even though I have seen Galaxy and iPhone 4S clips Played back on the phones without the jumping, the YouTube samples did exhibit the issue.
While I wait for the EVO LTE to arrive at Sprint, I will change the video recording folder on my EVO and see if that makes any difference. I will also test the new EVO and cross my fingers. Everything else looks great and I'm hoping the video recording will pass my stringent tests!!!
So I checked, and I can not find any setting on my EVO to have the camera record video files directly to internal storage. In fact, there is no setting at all as far as location of recorded video and photos. Apparently the EVO is designed to record directly to the SD card and there is no other option.
However, in thinking about this studdering or "jumping" issue, it doesn't make sense that it would be related to the SD card anyway.
The phone would buffer recorded video before it writes it to the card. If the buffer ran out, perhaps video would jump or skip, but it would be at random times. The issue I'm talking about happens consistently during the video, like I said, it looks like video shot at about 20 fps.
Besides, I've used the same SD card in my mom's Samsung Galaxy, and video is very smooth.
So it's not the SD cards fault.
OP I'm with you. Camcorder on my Evo or better yet HTC phone if pure crap. Low light shooting is the worst I've seen on a phone. My Xoom, wife's ipad and daughter's Epic all take great low light and non jerky videos. People need to compare on hand with different devices before saying the Evo is okay, because it's not. That's my only peeve with htc phone and my next phone I'm going to make sure the video department is almost as good as the iphone 4s if not better, because iphone 4s take stunning video especailly low light.
I have been scouring the web looking for a fix for my Evo 4G video quality.
If anyone finds a fix please post it here.
Phone is rooted with CM7.1.0
I have a sports publication and we do interviews with athletes and coaches. My writers currently use handheld video cameras such as the Flip or Kodak lines to do these videos and then we upload them to our system. Obviously the quality isn't great but we still get nice clean videos that our customers enjoy. Is anyone here able to compare the quality of the video from this camera to something along the lines of what we are using?
Also what are the options currently for live streaming? I assume since most Android apps can be used I could continue using USteam for live video? Again I understand this camera isn't going to replace a high end camcorder but if we can get decent quality I think it would be a good purchase for me.
With the camera still being rather new I'm having trouble finding many sample pics and videos so any links to those would be greatly appreciated and what I would really like to find is some sample streaming videos. Thanks!
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I have a sports publication and we do interviews with athletes and coaches. My writers currently use handheld video cameras such as the Flip or Kodak lines to do these videos and then we upload them to our system. Obviously the quality isn't great but we still get nice clean videos that our customers enjoy. Is anyone here able to compare the quality of the video from this camera to something along the lines of what we are using?
Also what are the options currently for live streaming? I assume since most Android apps can be used I could continue using USteam for live video? Again I understand this camera isn't going to replace a high end camcorder but if we can get decent quality I think it would be a good purchase for me.
With the camera still being rather new I'm having trouble finding many sample pics and videos so any links to those would be greatly appreciated and what I would really like to find is some sample streaming videos. Thanks!
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It's quite capable of shooting short videos but being built as a camera may not be easy to hand hold if you are primarily going to use it for video capture since there is no proper hand grip.
The picture and video quality are very acceptable but it's not a cheap device.
If your writers have smart phones they can just link the Galaxy Camera to the Hot Spot of the smart phone without having to add a data plan to the camera for uploading or streaming the video?
You should go try out one at your local dealer and see for yourself if it suits your needs.
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I have a sports publication and we do interviews with athletes and coaches. My writers currently use handheld video cameras such as the Flip or Kodak lines to do these videos and then we upload them to our system. Obviously the quality isn't great but we still get nice clean videos that our customers enjoy. Is anyone here able to compare the quality of the video from this camera to something along the lines of what we are using?
Also what are the options currently for live streaming? I assume since most Android apps can be used I could continue using USteam for live video? Again I understand this camera isn't going to replace a high end camcorder but if we can get decent quality I think it would be a good purchase for me.
With the camera still being rather new I'm having trouble finding many sample pics and videos so any links to those would be greatly appreciated and what I would really like to find is some sample streaming videos. Thanks!
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Android apps work just as well as on an SGS3, zooming apparently doesn't work in some 3rd party apps, but a review mentioned it's being worked on. It won't replace any pricier camcorders or SLR's, but if you get it at a fair discount from its usual over £400 price tag, it's an ok find. If you want good video and Wi-Fi check out Sony's NEX series.
You could always use Youtube for live streaming as well as UStream or similar. The camera has optical image stabilization which is quite good from what I've seen, it compensates nicely even at maximum zoom.
This video might be shot thru a window, looks a bit like that, but still a nice example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV7jOJt7rqM
There are some images from an xda member at http://s628.beta.photobucket.com/user/DC-IT/library/Samsung Galaxy Camera Images