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why do some roms work fine for one person but not another?

I just got myself a used HD2 today and have already flashed a couple of roms.
First i installed mdj's cynanogen gingerbread rom which worked really well but i found that some apps wouldnt work with gingerbread.
So, i then thought id try CleanDROID 1.3 which is a froyo rom and seems like almost everyone says its stable?
yet when i installed it, ( i chose to wipe data) i can make it crash almost instantly?
e.g. fire up market, tap a few times and instant freeze, then it reboots.
IF i try to run quadrant, it seems to end the test early during one of the GFX tests and exits back to the quadrant menu?
Could it be a hardware problem? Quadrant ran fine on MDJ's gingerbread rom though
i'd post this in the cleandroid thread but my postcount is too low.
many thanks

as for apps, most are still not compatable with gingerbread. give the devs time to update them.
as for you freeze issue, it might be just a bad flash. i would do a complete wipe and re-install. if it still freezes, try another rom. still freezing with a different rom, could be hardware issue. just make sure you re-read all the guides in the forums just incase you missed a step.

I agreed with what number 2 have just said.
You must READ instruction very carefully, about hardware and the type of ROM you are going to flash. Some ROMs are built for a specific type of hardware, 512MB vs 1024, etc.. If you miss the step, or miss-read, you can get yourself into trouble spot quickly...

[Q] Telus GSM Hero, which ROM?

Hi all,
I have a couple questions before I install my first ROM on my Telus Hero.
First off, I'm following btdag's guide over here, as I am an admitted complete Newb.
So, what I've got:
HTC Hero on Telus in Canada
Android 2.1-update1
Launcher Pro Plus as my current launcher
Flash Rec
Titanium Backup
HTC Sync installed on Win XP 32 bit
Amon Ra's recovery ROM for hero, 1.7.0.1
Rooted using Universal AndRoot
What I've done so far
As mentioned above, I've rooted the phone
I'm trying to Flash to the recovery image in the root of the sdcard folder, but it keeps failing. Can someone give specific steps as to what I am to do here?
Tried to backup the recovery image - see below.
About to do a Titanium Backup and then a Nandroid backup as specified in the guide.
Questions
1. I've tried to type in /sdcard/recover-RA-hero-v1.7.0.1.img into the address bar and click 'Backup Recover Image', but it just says 'Backup FAILED: Could not run command'. Any ideas?
2. What is the best ROM for this phone, in your opinions? I know I could flash it multiple times, but I'm not super-keen on that idea.. I'd prefer to do a one-shot, done sorta thing.
What I'm looking for in a custom ROM (in order) - preferably 2.3, but 2.2 would be acceptable:
a) speed
b) stability
c) compatibility
d) flashiness (UI stuff, launchers, etc)
e) overclocking built-in
I realize I can install whatever launcher I'd like after the fact, but if it comes baked-in, I'm good with that too. I'd prefer a launcher that has some basic customization for # of homescreens as I find that the hero is sluggish on many more than 5, and I prefer 3, tbh. This may be mitigated by the speed improvements of 2.3 as well as the built-in overclocking that some seem to have. I'm okay if I have to install setcpu separately to overclock.
3. Unlocking? I'm going to be going to Europe in May and I'd like to buy a data SIM card when I get there. Will these ROMs unlock the phone or is that a separate code I have to get from somewhere (ie: Ebay, etc)?
Thanks in advance!! I really appreciate all the work the devs and volunteers have done to make all of this available to the newb users like me.
Oliver

oliverh72 said:
Hi all,
I have a couple questions before I install my first ROM on my Telus Hero.
First off, I'm following btdag's guide over here, as I am an admitted complete Newb.
So, what I've got:
HTC Hero on Telus in Canada
Android 2.1-update1
Launcher Pro Plus as my current launcher
Flash Rec
Titanium Backup
HTC Sync installed on Win XP 32 bit
Amon Ra's recovery ROM for hero, 1.7.0.1
Rooted using Universal AndRoot
What I've done so far
As mentioned above, I've rooted the phone
I'm trying to Flash to the recovery image in the root of the sdcard folder, but it keeps failing. Can someone give specific steps as to what I am to do here?
Tried to backup the recovery image - see below.
About to do a Titanium Backup and then a Nandroid backup as specified in the guide.
Questions
1. I've tried to type in /sdcard/recover-RA-hero-v1.7.0.1.img into the address bar and click 'Backup Recover Image', but it just says 'Backup FAILED: Could not run command'. Any ideas?
2. What is the best ROM for this phone, in your opinions? I know I could flash it multiple times, but I'm not super-keen on that idea.. I'd prefer to do a one-shot, done sorta thing.
What I'm looking for in a custom ROM (in order) - preferably 2.3, but 2.2 would be acceptable:
a) speed
b) stability
c) compatibility
d) flashiness (UI stuff, launchers, etc)
e) overclocking built-in
I realize I can install whatever launcher I'd like after the fact, but if it comes baked-in, I'm good with that too. I'd prefer a launcher that has some basic customization for # of homescreens as I find that the hero is sluggish on many more than 5, and I prefer 3, tbh. This may be mitigated by the speed improvements of 2.3 as well as the built-in overclocking that some seem to have. I'm okay if I have to install setcpu separately to overclock.
3. Unlocking? I'm going to be going to Europe in May and I'd like to buy a data SIM card when I get there. Will these ROMs unlock the phone or is that a separate code I have to get from somewhere (ie: Ebay, etc)?
Thanks in advance!! I really appreciate all the work the devs and volunteers have done to make all of this available to the newb users like me.
Oliver
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I'll bite, lol.
Give Cronos Ginger 1.4 a try. It's a 2.3 ROM and my daily driver. http://www.cronosproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=780 I find it to be fast and stable.
As for launcher, I use LauncherPro. It is very quick. I have tried ADW Launcher and is okay as well. There are some others to try but I haven't for a long time.
For overclocking, give SetCPU a try. It is free on xda for forum members.
For SIM unlocking, these ROMs will not do that. You'll need to get a code from ebay, etc as you mentioned.
I'll get back to you on the flashrec error.
Edit:
Okay, for the flashrec error it looks like you might be doing it wrong. You are trying to backup your current recovery image to a file name that probably already exists (recover-RA-hero-v1.7.0.1.img is the new image).
I replied to another user a while ago here with some advice that seemed to work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=812511 Give that a try.
And back to the stable ROM suggestion, I didn't see that you just wanted to "set it and forget it" (install one ROM and that's it). In that case something that is stable is Cronos Froyo (a 2.2 ROM) http://www.cronosproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=58&t=758.
And since you're a newb, read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797740

Hello,
I am also a Telus customer with their Hero (got it way back in December). Currently rooted and using RaduG's TastyGinger 2.0 (Android 2.3.2) as my daily ROM. Very fast, stable, everything works (Camera, GPS, WiFi, BT, data, etc..)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943720
Overclocking is built into the ROM and can be adjusted when fully installed through TastyOC and ranges the clock speed between 176MHz - 710MHz. He does say that you should NOT use any other OC utility other than the one built in because he has implemented a custom set of instructions.
Before that I was running VillianROM's FroydVillian 1.7.2 (Android 2.2.1) and was great as a daily. Only issues that I had with that one was the GPS lock would not work sometimes and would have random reboots occasionally.
I promise you, however, that once you flash out of the stock 2.1 from Telus, you will flash atleast 5-9 different ROM's just because you can or you find that the recommended ROM's just don't suit your needs. I reflashed about 10 times because I couldn't decide if I wanted Sense or AOSP, haha.
Have fun.
EDIT: In regards to unlocking, you can either pay Telus $50 for them to unlock it for you now or you can check, like you said, EBay for people who buy unlock codes wholesale. Telus is probably way more expensive, but it would be 100%.
Regards.

Hey, thanks so much for your reply!
After trying to flash the recovery image, I gave up and just bought ROM manager installed and used clockworkmod. That works great.
So first, I tried TastyGinger... oh so slow and laggy. So not for me.
I reflashed with Froyo 2.2.1 stock with the blue sence theme and launcherpro instead of ADW and it seems to be working like a charm now. I'm quite liking it. Are there significant benefits to 2.3 other than the slight UI improvements? All the 2.3 based ROMs seemed like they have a bit too many bugs as yet, and since I do want stable, I figured I'd stick with 2.2.1.
I'll download setcpu and give it a shot.
Thanks again!!
Oliver

[Q] Kernels

ive tried many lovely roms on my dream, but all but one have horrific battery life, the one exception is gingeryoshi 1.1 with the new farmatito kernel, so i figured i could just install it to my preferred rom and id be away, however it seems not so simple as all that
first i tried installing it to the cos-ds image i was running at the time, it simply killed that stone dead, wouldnt boot past the boot anim. so i decided to test it on my current fave rom, beatmod 2.2, i did and it booted and seemed to run fast and reasonably problem free until it came to installing an apk i had on my sd card, where i found that it wouldnt read the card at all, it said no card inserted and on pulling and reinserting it displays damaged SD card and often causes many force closes on other running processes, so what is it that i need to change to get it working, it seems close enough that itll just need some tweaks so if someone could point me in the right direction id be grateful, just a "read this, this and this" and some links is plenty (the info may well be on here already but digging it out can be a nightmare and i havent got that far on my own yet, its a BIG forum)

so what exactly are you trying to figure out? how to fix your sd card or how to get the kernel working? your sd card may have actually just died because believe it or not those things dont last as long as you think.. thore more times you copy things on and off them the quicker they die.. but as far as the kernel problem im not sure exactly how it all works i usually get the recommended kernel for rom... usually on the post with the rom link

no the sd card is fine, its any sd card when used in beatmod with that kernel, so getting the kernel working, what i want is a rom thats a little faster than the somewhat sluggish gingeryoshi but is compatible with the farmatito kernel which solves my short battery woes
ive actually even tried cos-ds and used their recommended farmatito kernel but even then it still leaves me stuck at the g1 boot screen. infact as yet beatmod is the only rom i have got to boot at all with a different kernel than the one that comes with the rom. im not sure if its something that im doing or possibly that the g1 is on its way out, its just refused to use the backup i made before testing the greenromproject rom (which also didnt boot, again stuck at the g1 screen) as the md5 check failed and what with it being picky about which backups it will and which it wont boot anyway im beginning to suspect there may be more to it than a software complaint
and now that ive finished typing i look over at my phone to still see that big g1 glaring at me, none of my current backups now work ah well try a fresh install i guess

[Q] Help from the Pros - man you guys (gals) are smart!

Have been trying my best to figure this out, but so many steps. Lame I know but...
I've got a Rogers 32A SPL 1.33.0010 SAPP50000 3.22.20.17. After buying it used with a Hero ROM almost a year ago, I managed to flash CM6-FroyoRedux-1.6-32a which worked (great!) for almost a year. Lately it has been getting really flakey with lots of FC and problems connecting to wifi.
So I thought a re-flash of ROM should fix things up. No luck, same problems. Super flakey, lots of FC (even with base install). Does that mean I have a hw problem?
So thought I would try another more up to date ROM. Tried CyanogenCARZ-7.1.0... and Ginger Yosi 1.2.1 and a few other but none would flash properly (Recovery on the phone is ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1 - is that the problem? If so can anyone direct me to easy steps to change this? Found some others but me to dumb, or they to hard to follow b/c no luck. I have done ROM messing about for years, more recently with Dell Streak, but it seemed to be much easier.)
Questions:
- If i can get this far, does it mean my phone is rooted?
- I hear I have a 'Perfect SPL', but if the Hero and the CM6 ROM could be flashed, does that matter?
Where should I go from here?
Thanks for your help, and sorry for being so dumb.

Don't worry, it's natural to have questions whwn confronted with such a confusing phone. I would recommend going to the RUU sticky in the development section, and flashing back to stock. If you still gets fcs and the like on stock, it is likely a hardware issue. Otherwise, we can just reroot and flash another custom rom. Let me know how it goes!
Sent from my Sapphire/dream using XDA App

What you need is a simple (full)wipe.
The problem when applying new roms or re-flashing the same rom is that the userdata and cache partitions are not cleaned.
Userdata = all the app and settings you have accumulated through the years.
Cache = as the name says.
When the partitions are not wiped, then complication can and most likely will occur when (re)flashing roms.
So, inside the recovery, chose to wipe all the partition you can find. Then you flash the rom you want. Wait 5-15 min for it to load and you should be good to go.

paulheth said:
Questions:
- If i can get this far, does it mean my phone is rooted?
- I hear I have a 'Perfect SPL', but if the Hero and the CM6 ROM could be flashed, does that matter?
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Rooted = have SU binaries... my guess = YES you are rooted.
Perfect SPL does not influence rom flashing since you are working from recovery.
If you are flashing from fastboot, then SPL will have a dominant position.

Looking more like hardware.
Seems it may be a hardware issue? Even with the stock RUU rom from HTC there are still sim recognition and wifi flakiness issues.
Any chance a radio re-flash/update would help?

Help with unroot...

A few weeks ago my old MT3G 1.0 stopped working, so I got a replacement from TMobile, the exact same model. I rooted it, but since the stock Froyo, Yoshi Ginger, and so on custom ROMs using Froyo+ are badly lagging the phone, Ive decided to unroot it with sappimg.nbh, downgrade it to Cupcake, than OTA to Donut and root back. Unfortunately, the sappimg.nbh which was running without problems with the old phone, now gives me an error: "Main version is older". I tried it with my goldcard and got the same message. Does anyone know what the problem might be? Thanks.

Is it currently rooted? I have an idea I always wanted to try

lgtsanev said:
A few weeks ago my old MT3G 1.0 stopped working, so I got a replacement from TMobile, the exact same model. I rooted it, but since the stock Froyo, Yoshi Ginger, and so on custom ROMs using Froyo+ are badly lagging the phone, Ive decided to unroot it with sappimg.nbh, downgrade it to Cupcake, than OTA to Donut and root back. Unfortunately, the sappimg.nbh which was running without problems with the old phone, now gives me an error: "Main version is older". I tried it with my goldcard and got the same message. Does anyone know what the problem might be? Thanks.
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Load your phone into fastboot mode
- Turn phone off
- Press and hold Back + Power
Write SPL info (first 5 strings) here