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So How is the Video Playback?

I've been using the TD2 for almost a week now. Really really happy with it,but I haven't tested any videos yet,though it was one of my major priorities behind buying this phone. Actually I am bit concerned after some reviews of the phone by some websites,they stated the Video playback is not up to the mark(Like-Skipped frames,Sound cracking etc.). If this is true then the large 3.2' screen will make no sense and I would be very SAD. So please vote and input your comments.
BTW-By Video I mean AVI files(either .xvid or .divx encoded) for PC playback(VGA or above quality),please don't say anything about .mp4,3gp and Conversion of videos. Maybe CorePlayer is the option,I don't have it as it's not free.
Thanks in advance.

IME the device on its own barely plays any video formats and doesn't even play them so well. I bought CorePlayer and it plays most things and quite well too. Sometimes you just have to pay for stuff. Shame the UI is a bit ropey though.

convert the video first to smaller resolution..it will be better..and yes coreplayer is my favourite player too..

Without saying anything about certain formats we've been asked not to mention , I have converted some films (they had to be converted, they were DVDs to start with!) and have got to a place where I'm happy, extremely, very slight lip-sync issue, but watchable, and on the 3.2 screen they look great, no issues with Video, just need to get the Audio-Video sync sorted.
BTW-Haven't used an existing files, converted films specifically for TD2 (the ones converted for my XDA Orbit were a bit on the small size due to the screen size.
PS Only use HTC Album to view, WMP doesn't seem to want to play anything I give to it.

I have excellent quality with PocketDivxEncoder to make my movie smaller.
On my TD2/Topaz i use CorePlayer because it's WideScreen.
TCPMP won't run on my phone and WMP doesn't have the codecs.

Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.

ithehappy said:
Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.
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I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities

oh and to be even more clear - all <=700MB xvid encoded movies running superb smoothly, WITHOUT any compression

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I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities
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Just to be clear, the ripped DVD can't just be a standard file, it has to have been converted first, even if that conversion keeps the resolution and size intact, even Coreplayer can't play vob files.

Coreplayer also doesn't support AC3 audio which is a huge limitation and disappointment This means that any video files with DD are no go.

watched the pilot of Caprica. The file was downloaded for PC viewing. was a Xvid encoded .avi file resoloution 624 x 352 and encoded with 23 fps with a data rate of 133 Kbps (It says 133kbps for audio as well, so I assume that is the total ofr both streams).
Played perfectly on Core player

Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.

I think 1.3.2 build 6909 is the current release so maybe the version you are using is a bit old. It should play xVid avis no problem at that resolution. You could alos try the free TCMP from which coreplayer was derived. http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/

ithehappy said:
Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.
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What was the data rate? My version of Core is older (1.25) and the same res file flew for me. It was a 700MB file for 90 odd minutes of video.

I tried two videos(music),here are the detail:
The First one,(a Taylor Swift video),72mb
The details from my PC- Time-4 mins 37 secs,Resolution 640*352,Audio format-Lame MP3,Audio Bit rate-192kbps and Video Frame rate-23fps/sec, Video Date rate-2099kbps, Video Sample size-24bits, Video compression-FFDS
Now when I tried to play that by Core Player 1.30 on my TD2,it didn't run at all,
Now the details of the Video by Core Player-
Video- AVC aka H.264,Codec-Core AVC and I played it for first 30 seconds and it played 67 frames and Dropped 985 frames,the rate was 1.527
Now the second music video,98.6mb
Resolution-512*384,Runtime-18 mins 57 seconds, Frame rate-23fps/sec,Data rate-710kbps,Video sample size-24bits,Video compression-XVID
Now Core player played this video well,very well infact,the Details by Core player,
Video-MPEG4,Codec-Core ASP,I watched it for first 6 mins and it played 744 frames and dropped 7,Played FPS-23.88
Thanks

I'm guessing that You copied your file to the memory card. If so, did You install SDTuneUp drivers? It looks like they are a must have.

Sir,I don't know what is SD tune up driver and where to install from. BTW-I don't have a memory card on my TD2,it didn't come out of the box and so lazy to buy a seperate one.

hi, I am wondering how the performance is watching football (soccer) highlights from youtube or www.footytube.com , does anyone have any ideas? I have tried this on sony Ericsson w995 and the ball is invisible :s

I know it has been mentioned before but converting using he HTC Touch HD ‘Encoder’ program works well using HTC Album playback on my stock ROM TD2 playing back from the SD Card.
I understand that some of you are resistant to converting files and do not want to go this route but I thought it might help some of those reading this thread that smooth HQ playback from the SD card is absolutely possible without paying any money if you spend the time converting files on a PC (or Mac).
Tony

Audio and video out of sync.

Does anyone have issues with video playback? It seems that every file I throw at the hero seems to have audio and video synchronization issues. Specifically, video lags behind audio, you hear something and see it later. I've tried HTC's player and Meridian. The files play on my pc just fine and aren't huge files.
Are there some recommended bitrates for Hero? I'm using an iPod/phone converter (videora) to get my files encoded which has options for bitrate. Bit disappointed that the Hero can't keep up with iPhone again though.
EDIT: Good News, scroll down for my conversion settings.

Hi, there are multiple threads on this subject on this forum. Just open the Hero main forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=508
... and do a search for "video" from the "Search this forum" -tool to the right.
In short, the Hero has massive problems playing mp4-video without a glitch. The best I've acchieved is smooth video that slows down a bit and then becomes faster to catch up with the timeline every 10 seconds.
This can be done by using an exact set of conversion options with one of many many encoders. Some say it works perfectly for them, but I suspect their eyes are just not as finely tuned as mine
Main thing seems to be the target resolution can be no higher than 480x360.

Try encoding/downloading psp video files its not 100% but very close

jayjay said:
Hi, there are multiple threads on this subject on this forum. Just open the Hero main forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=508
... and do a search for "video" from the "Search this forum" -tool to the right.
In short, the Hero has massive problems playing mp4-video without a glitch. The best I've acchieved is smooth video that slows down a bit and then becomes faster to catch up with the timeline every 10 seconds.
This can be done by using an exact set of conversion options with one of many many encoders. Some say it works perfectly for them, but I suspect their eyes are just not as finely tuned as mine
Main thing seems to be the target resolution can be no higher than 480x360.
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Cheers dude, I did look but I can't find anything about synchronisation, my videos aren't dropping frames (or at least that doesn't bother me), it's just that the audio is constantly out of sync with video. Makes everything look like it's dubbed, when people talk their lips don't match the sound. You see an explosion (for example)and hear it later.
I'm going to do some experiments with bitrates and converters today.
How exciting!

4 hours later, 3 different converters and no good news.
Has anyone got any settings and a converter to recommend?

Dude try using psp settings. I was having the same issues with avi's & mp4's but now I'm using psp settings its almost perfect

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Dude try using psp settings. I was having the same issues with avi's & mp4's but now I'm using psp settings its almost perfect
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Could you post what the settings are? I tried a load of things earlier and it was all rubbish.
Resolution, bit rate for video and audio as well as file type would be grrrrreat!

Well, I -THINK- I've cracked it.
There are some dropped frames still but image quality is good and the sound is in sync. Here are the settings when using Handbrake http://handbrake.fr/?article=download to do the conversion:
If I don't give a value for it, then you don't need to change it.
Format: MP4
Crop: Automatic
Width/Height: 480 / Blank
Anamorphic: None
VideoCodec: Mpeg-4 (FFmpeg)
Framerate 23.976
2 pass encoding: Check
Avg Bitrate: 750
Audio Source: Automatic
Audio Codec: AAC
Mixdown: Stereo
Samplerate: 48k
Bitrate: 128
That's the best result I got after HOURS of experimenting but I'd be interested if anyone has anything better.

I see you already went ahead and did your own tests... Here are some relevant threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544498
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550529&
I myself, haven't been able to get Handbrake working with any settings. Audio always stutters like crazy, so the video is basically unwatchable.
What does work for me is Videora, which has a bunch of free converters bundled for a specific platform, so you can get a Videora iPod -edition and a Videora HTC-edition. There's a general edition as well.
The GUI is horrific and loads weird web pages into a huge box inside the program (presumably to allow advertising whilst using the program), but I did manage to get the smoothest playback out of it of all the converters I tried. I think I even went with default settings for HTC G1-video.
The video plays ok, the sound and video are in sync, but the video slows down and catches up every 10 seconds or so.
Hope you get it working! I am pretty hopeful that the coming update will alleviate the problem...

Thanks, will have a look at those threads. The Videora converter didn't work well at all for me, I'm wondering if there are certain files that retain characteristics that the phone doesn't like. IE that you may get a better result with converting from divx to mp4 than, for example high quality mp4 to something the hero can handle.

"Perfect" HandBrake settings for TP2?

So is there such a thing as "perfect" handbrake settings for TP2?
I've been playing with it a couple of hours, and these are the settings I'm down to using:
Output Settings, Format: MP4 file
Picture Settings tab: 640 x 400 (what are you guys using?)
Video Tab: Video Codec MPEG-4 (FFmpeg), framerate 29.97, 2 pass encoding, average bitrate (kbps) 600
Audio&Subtitles tab: Automatic Source, AAC Audio Codec, Mixdown Dolby Pro Logic II, samplerate Khz Auto, Bitrate (kps) 160
I haven't really touched anything else, but with these settings I seem to be getting the slightest lag where sometimes I can perceive the frame rate, for lack of a better term. It's as if the smoothness is about 90% - 95% there, but not quite. Anything I can do about that? I tried making the width x height numbers smaller, but it didn't seem to work.
What are you guys using for handbrake settings? Are you touching any other settings than the ones I mention above?

I've tried all sorts of setting with HandBrake (including yours, just now) and there always appears to be a bit of a stutter. I've had much more luck using SUPER encoder (encoding to AVI).

I just reencoded a divx file to MP4 using x.264 compression and it plays smooth as silk using the HTC album application. That was on the latest 6.5.1 (504) Valkyrie (sp?) ROM as of a couple of days ago. I am probably going to flash to the new 28002 Energy ROM tonight so we'll see if it still works there.

Avatar28 said:
I just reencoded a divx file to MP4 using x.264 compression and it plays smooth as silk using the HTC album application. That was on the latest 6.5.1 (504) Valkyrie (sp?) ROM as of a couple of days ago. I am probably going to flash to the new 28002 Energy ROM tonight so we'll see if it still works there.
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What were you other settings on handbrake? I guess you selected h.264(x264) under the video tab. What did you use for avg. bitrate on the video tab and what did you use for width/height or anything else under the "picture settings" tab?
I'm not familiar with the ROM stuff you're referring to.
Thanks for the info. I'm still playing with these handbrake settings!

ualdriver said:
What were you other settings on handbrake? I guess you selected h.264(x264) under the video tab. What did you use for avg. bitrate on the video tab and what did you use for width/height or anything else under the "picture settings" tab?
I'm not familiar with the ROM stuff you're referring to.
Thanks for the info. I'm still playing with these handbrake settings!
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Sorry, the site freaked out and I couldn't finish my post. Anyways, I actually used the free version of Any Video Converter and not handbrake (I got them both about the same time. That theoretically shouldn't make that much of a difference though when using the same settings. It just seems a bit easier to me to use.
I went with the original size. It might not make a difference but I have this nice, high-res screen, might as well take advantage of it, right? Original size in this case was 592x320. Video bitrate was set at 768k and the audio was 128k AAC. Windows shows them slightly lower in the file properties for whatever reason, though, 749k and 125k respectively.
My final file size was around 554 MB compared to right around 1000 MB for the original xvid. This was for an hour and a half movie.
I think you could approximate the settings by using the xbox 360 profile and changing the target bitrate for video and audio to something closer to the values I used.
Edit: This is the link to the ROM I was using. You will note that it appears to have updated D3D drivers so that might make a difference as I have heard of people having stuttering issues with WM 6.5 using the HTC album player in Manila. I point that out because the HTC player is apparently one of the only ones capable of taking advantage of the GPU accleration in the phone to handle the video decoding. Other players are more likely to stutter due to doing CPU decoding.

Presets
I haven't used Handbrake in about a month. I used 0.93 for Windows. When I converted something for my phones, I would use the Iphone/Ipod Touch preset. It's converts to a h.264 MP4 file. I would dial back the resolution for my Tilt. With my Tilt2 I raise the preset resolution to 800 instead of 640. I play it with the latest Coreplayer or TCPMP GF5500 Edition. The videos are amazing. I have been trying the GUI posted earlier because it's much faster.

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I haven't used Handbrake in about a month. I used 0.93 for Windows. When I converted something for my phones, I would use the Iphone/Ipod Touch preset. It's converts to a h.264 MP4 file. I would dial back the resolution for my Tilt. With my Tilt2 I raise the preset resolution to 800 instead of 640. I play it with the latest Coreplayer or TCPMP GF5500 Edition. The videos are amazing. I have been trying the GUI posted earlier because it's much faster.
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Thanks!
Avatar28 said:
I went with the original size. It might not make a difference but I have this nice, high-res screen, might as well take advantage of it, right? Original size in this case was 592x320. Video bitrate was set at 768k and the audio was 128k AAC. Windows shows them slightly lower in the file properties for whatever reason, though, 749k and 125k respectively.
My final file size was around 554 MB compared to right around 1000 MB for the original xvid. This was for an hour and a half movie.
I think you could approximate the settings by using the xbox 360 profile and changing the target bitrate for video and audio to something closer to the values I used.
Edit: This is the link to the ROM I was using. You will note that it appears to have updated D3D drivers so that might make a difference as I have heard of people having stuttering issues with WM 6.5 using the HTC album player in Manila. I point that out because the HTC player is apparently one of the only ones capable of taking advantage of the GPU accleration in the phone to handle the video decoding. Other players are more likely to stutter due to doing CPU decoding.
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Ok thanks. I'll have to try the x264 setting. I thought I tried that once with handbrake when I was playing with a 10 minute DVD trailer, but for some reason my TP2 wouldn't play it. It might have been just a bad file conversion that particular time, but I assumed at the time it was just an unusable conversion type. I have been using the MPEG4 (FFmpeg) file and that seemed to work every time. I haven't a clue what the difference is.
I think I'm still using WM 6.1. I'm relatively new to this stuff and I'm not too sure about what a ROM is. I know it means "read only memory," but how it applies to my phone or how I can modify it and what the consequences are of changing it- I don't understand.

Ive used Super to convert a DVD rip of Iron Man to my TP2 @ 720x 480 resolution @ 1200kbps in MP4 h246 and it looks sexy! you have to make sure all other apps are closed and surprisingly enough, Windows Media Player handles this file with ease(Windows media player actually works now!It only took 10 years!lol) and framerate is movie speed @29.970. Even more surprising is the fact that this is playing on a virgin device( running the stock ATT ROM till tomorrow....) and the current ROM is incredibly bloated.

"Avidemux" is an awesome program to easily convert your movies. I use "Handbrake" to RIP but I find "Avidemux" much better for movie/video conversions. it has presets but will also let you setup formats, crops, etc. anyway you want. It has enormous capability and still easy to use. I use it to convert to 640 x (?) (xvid) mp4 @ 700 kbps with 128 kbps AAC audio for use with the Album player and it is sharp with no stuttering. I am going to use it to convert to x264 mp4 @ 1000 kbps and see how WMP handles it as a test but I generally despise WMP.

Handbrake
I've never posted here before but after trying Core Player and its stuttering after I installed Mighty Rom i found that using the standard IPod Touch and Iphone settings showed video clear as all hell with no stutter (changed resolution - increased a little).
Try it?

NH3MAN said:
"Avidemux" is an awesome program to easily convert your movies. I use "Handbrake" to RIP but I find "Avidemux" much better for movie/video conversions. it has presets but will also let you setup formats, crops, etc. anyway you want. It has enormous capability and still easy to use. I use it to convert to 640 x (?) (xvid) mp4 @ 700 kbps with 128 kbps AAC audio for use with the Album player and it is sharp with no stuttering. I am going to use it to convert to x264 mp4 @ 1000 kbps and see how WMP handles it as a test but I generally despise WMP.
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I've never posted here before but after trying Core Player and its stuttering after I installed Mighty Rom i found that using the standard IPod Touch and Iphone settings showed video clear as all hell with no stutter (changed resolution - increased a little).
Try it?
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Thanks guys, I'll try them.

omarmir said:
I've never posted here before but after trying Core Player and its stuttering after I installed Mighty Rom i found that using the standard IPod Touch and Iphone settings showed video clear as all hell with no stutter (changed resolution - increased a little).
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Damn! Finally. I posted about this 15 days ago. You should update to the new Handbrake. It's much faster.

The Best Settings and the best CONVERTER For TP2
In 2 weeks I've tried it all. 8 converters to be exact. The best one out there worth anyones time is a converter call AVS Video Converter 6.3(not free but reall worth it trust me). It has it all! It's pretty quick compare to the rest, but most importantly pumps out excellent video quality with smooth framerate. There's a few that's faster but most of them has bad famerates, bad quality, or both. Yes bad framerate playing on my super computer. The best settings that work for my TP2 is the following:M4vipod at 415 bitrate, 24fps, 640X384. Plays smooth looks great can't ask for more!
Converters I Tried: Handbrake 9.3 too slow
Handbrake 9.4 got sound no video?
Iwisoft choppy framerate looks very promising waiting for a newer version
Ultra mobile 3gp not enough settings file comes out to big and to slow
Any Video Converter when it works it very good, freezes to often during conversions plus to slow.
And a few others I don't remember.
Thanks hope I can help.

how come I only got the sound with no video from the H264 files I converted with Handbrake on max OS X....

I have been trying to get my new Sprint Touch Pro 2 to run movies smoothly using Windows Media Player Mobile. This is a very difficult task... I think I have just succeeded. At first, I was using Handbrake to encode my DVD using the 640 resolution setting. This worked great for playing on my home computer, but after using Mobile Device Center to Sync my TP2 and playing the MP4 in Windows Media Player Mobile, I only got video to play and NO AUDIO.
This was very frustrating for a long time. I finally solved the problem. I increased the video resolution to 720 in Handbrake (leaving the audio settings as is), and bingo....the audio and video both play using Windows Media Player Mobile. I used the 23fps, 16:9 setting and 768 bitrate and it plays pretty well. Not sure why audio is not playing using the 640 resolution...any ideas???
-Chris

So I must be doing something wrong. Im using a failry new pc (Acer Iconia Tablet PC) and I started to convert a file in Handbrake last night around 12, 8am this morning its still converting.. what is the deal here?
I am trying to convert a .m4v file to .mp4 and the issue is that the file has subtitled I need to have burned in. I typically use videora but it didn't recognize the file.
I did the settings here (iphone settings) and i actually queued up 2 versions one with ac3 audio and one with aac, not sure which one i was supposed to choose.
Everything else was standard (subtitles burned in).
the movie is a 2.5 hour movie why is it taking so long.
I wish I was better with using vlc's conversion settings.

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I don't know the perfect settings, but these at least get you going with good results. They require modifying a profile which is x264 level 2.1 before I found this out I had some hit and miss results with 0.9.3 occasional green screen with sound in the Album player and consistently no video in the higher versions.
I'm using 0.9.5 now. The first thing you want to do is uncheck "always use iPod friendly file extension (.m4v) for mp4" in Tools>Options>General and maybe enable Query Editor tab in Tools>Options>Advanced/Other.
Then you want to pick the level 2.1 Apple preset: iPhone & iPod Touch
Change the Audio Mixdown to Stereo, Samplerate to 48
Change the Video to Avg Bitrate 1000 for lower res, 650 for near or full 800x480
Preset>Save Preset
Minor changes to the new preset can now be saved by right clicking on it.
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So I must be doing something wrong. Im using a failry new pc (Acer Iconia Tablet PC) and I started to convert a file in Handbrake last night around 12, 8am this morning its still converting.. what is the deal here?
I am trying to convert a .m4v file to .mp4 and the issue is that the file has subtitled I need to have burned in. I typically use videora but it didn't recognize the file.
I did the settings here (iphone settings) and i actually queued up 2 versions one with ac3 audio and one with aac, not sure which one i was supposed to choose.
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Encoders need raw power your tablet PC has a specialised processor. I don't think you can burn in subtitles yet in Handbrake unless the source is DVD and they're VobSub (unsure about BluRay source) and the Audio must be set to AAC.
I think you will need to use Avidemux which has support for burning in many subtitle formats. I didn't have much luck with it up to now as it appears the Windows stable version r7200 is quite broken, partially rendered VobSubs, and crashing during encoding. So far so good using the latest beta r7317 hosted by Gruntster on the iPod preset.

FYI: Handbrake preset for Atrix Video

Came across this tutorial for preset to convert your HD videos for the Atrix.
http://www.knowyourcell.com/motorol...d_transfer_them_to_the_motorola_atrix_4g.html

So does anyone think this is weird that dual core has to go through converting software while my galaxy tab and nexus s can run all my ha qualities from jetvd and tubemate without a hitch ....will there be updates that will help with video playback
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

^same outcry from xoom users

So far I'm not that impressed with the video playback of the Atrix, but I suppose we'll have to wait and see what the 1080p update brings with it.
Attached is a Handbrake preset that I've tweaked for the Atrix. I tried various settings and these are it.

I keep getting an error
I tried your settings and messing with a bunch of them. I can watch in in VLC on the pc, but no matter what player I use on the atrix I get "file cannot be displayed or played"...any thoughts?

Strange. I encoded a DVD movie, BBC Top Gear episodes (from XVID) and a couple of other stuff, all worked perfectly for me.
Under the advanced tab, try setting the reference frames to 0 and slide the Psychovisual Rate Distro slider all the way to the left.

Have you try Vital Player? It seems to play almost or a lot of stuff Im throwing it.

Curious, have any of you got a good rip from Ripbot 264? I have a couple of Blu Rays I've converted via MakeMKV, but then I need to run them through something else. These are in a VC1 format and Handbrake doesn't recognize them. Ripbot264 does but I can't get a good file out of it. Any help with the presets? I got a good one the first time, but it cropped out a lot... (my fault on the settings I think) and the 2nd try I set it to make an mkv, another oops as the atrix won't read it.

scottrleo1 said:
I tried your settings and messing with a bunch of them. I can watch in in VLC on the pc, but no matter what player I use on the atrix I get "file cannot be displayed or played"...any thoughts?
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Did you change the container to mkv, because the Atrix seems to hate mkv.

Bit of a bump but anyone had luck with this?
I tried above instructions, also made sure I started off with the 'normal' profile not high profile, still nothing plays. Is this the whole 'tegra2 can't play hi profile x264' thing, if so how do I get handbrake to output baseline?

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....I have a couple of Blu Rays I've converted via MakeMKV, but then I need to run them through something else.
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After Blu Ray conversion via MakeMKV I've been running the files through the 'Badaboom 2' transcoder (using the AppleTV preset).
I did have to switch to 'MoboPlayer' because the 'Act 1' video player I was using would not play the AppeTV files.

thanks very much

After much experimentation I figured out the key is to encode in x264 baseline NOT normal or hi profile.
Basically use the same presets as iphone 3gs in terms of x264 parameters (not resolution etc.) and it will play.
A bit pathetic really since it can push jaw dropping 3D games but not video encoded with a spec that's pretty much mainstream. I'm not even talking about 1080p. Just be nice to be able to drop a typical 720p x264 rip in and play. DIsappointed

MKV to Mp4 for XOOM WITHOUT Converting Video

Under Honeycomb 3.1, playback of some high profile h264 files is now possible. This means it is now possible to convert many high profile MKV files to a format the XOOM will play WITHOUT the time consuming process of re-encoding the video. So for those who hate re-encoding, here is how:
Download and install the freeware app XenonMKV. It will allow one click conversion of a high profile 720p MKV file to an mp4 that the XOOM can play WITHOUT the time consuming process of re-encoding the video. Also it leaves original video quality intact and untouched. Special credit to parrotheadmjb for pointing us to this app.
Advantages of this method:
1. Converts only audio with no loss of video quality - video is untouched only audio and container are changed. No artifacts or distortion added by a video re-encode.
2. Much faster then re-encoding the whole video in something like Handbrake or DVD cat. 40 min TV show converts in about 5-6 min. Two hour movie in 15 to 17 minutes or faster depending on your system.
Disadvantages:
1. Will not work for main and high profile 1080p MKV - use DVDcat or Handbrake for these
2. One click version can be quriky with some videos. Manual tools may work better on these.
Some tips for XenonMKV
Setting aspect ratio manually may be necessary for some videos. Do this if your converted video appears stretched or aspect doesn't match original. I have found that using 16x10 rather than 16x9 works for XOOM even when original is 16x9. Setting 16x9 sometimes gave wrong aspect even when original was 16x9.
There is an option to manually select the audio track for multi-language MKV. Use this if its giving you the wrong audio track.
Alternate method using separate tools is shown below. Usefull for stuff that doesn't convert with Xenon. Harder to setup - not that hard really. Just got to download a lot of pieces and put them in the proper folders. After that you just make shorcuts to the desktops for the 3 tools and you are ready.
Very easy to convert videos once tools with Graphical user interfaces are installed -Just requires three separate manual steps.
1. Demux your video: This can be done using MKVtoolnix + MKVextract GUI
Once this tool is installed, you just load your video and click extract.
You should have a video file with h264 extension and an ac3 audio file.
2. Convert just the ac3 audio file to AAC. This can be done with eac3, but I have a paid copy of Ojosoft Audio converter, and I have been using that to convert the
AC3 audio file to an AAC audio file
With Ojo you just load the AC3 file extracted in step 1, select AAC and go.
3. Using MP4boxGUI, mux the original Video file back together with the new AAC audio file and you are done.
Again super easy. Just load the original video extracted in step one and the new AAC audio file made in step 2 and click mux. That's it.
I have specified GUI versions of all the tools for simplicity, however if you love the command line, have fun.
The whole process takes less about 10 minutes, and produces an MP4 video file with audio that plays back on the XOOM.
Disclaimer: I have just started experimenting with this process. Don't blame me if a particular video doesn't convert. Don't go buing Ojosoft and blaming me if you can't use it for your video. There are free ac3 to AAC converters out there.
Important note: You may need to manually set the fps in MP4boxGUI, don't trust the program to keep the original fps. If you don't know the fps of the original, try 23.976 or download mediainfo. If you don't set it manually, and leave it at default you may get audio sync issues.
Edit: So far have only tested with 720p high profile MKV's but its working very well - finally feel like I can watch videos on my XOOM the way they were intended. Going to convert a large number now and see how many work without problems.
Edit: Can't believe how well this is working. Finally an easy way to convert MKV for XOOM without re-encoding for hours. Even worked on a 720p [email protected] file. Perfect video and audio. Damn! I might stop considering the galaxy tab 10.1.

Nice to hear about this kind of progress and testing =)
now all we need is encoder software that'll copy original video but encode the audio with a simple click... batch processing and maybe copy to device in one go.
doesn't handbrake have a "keep video" setting? =)
looking forward to more tests.
i'm still hoping that when coreplayer for android gets released all our playback woes will be over...
@corecodec: "Subtitles completed for CorePlayer on Android and Windows."
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I was thinking that too. Would be nice to do it all with one click. But I haven't gotten that far ahead just yet. Now just trying all sorts of videos to see how many work.
But its still not hard once the tools are set up with GUI interfaces. If you just want to download a video and watch it right away without waiting to re-encode the whole thing it's great. I just put the links to the three tools on my desktop and go throught the steps and you can be up watching a movie or TV show in about 10 min after its downloaded.

Theres already a bunch of 1-click tools that will remux it for you.
XenonMKV works great, theres a number of other tools that were made for the xbox 360 that do this since the 360 will play mp4 but not mkv. Try out xenonmkv and see how well that works on the xoom, I haven't tried yet.. I did think about it a few months ago but never got around to it.
edit: also, if you want it to, it'll split the file for you if its >4gb since the file system kinda limits us to 4gb files

Not really a conversion tool but I use Plex (app and server on my PC) and I can stream anything over 3g and WiFi without having to do all this conversion mess. The app costs $5 but its well worth it, there was literally zero setup and my Xoom found my plex server instantly and I was streaming video/music anywhere I was. Obviously for 720 and 1080p videos 3g likely wouldnt be the best but I stream Blu-Ray rips (1080p) over WiFi and it looks and sounds great. I no longer have to convert anything (even plays .mkv's)

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Theres already a bunch of 1-click tools that will remux it for you.
XenonMKV works great, theres a number of other tools that were made for the xbox 360 that do this since the 360 will play mp4 but not mkv. Try out xenonmkv and see how well that works on the xoom, I haven't tried yet.. I did think about it a few months ago but never got around to it.
edit: also, if you want it to, it'll split the file for you if its >4gb since the file system kinda limits us to 4gb files
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Awesome. I was looking for something just like this with no luck, but I downloaded this and tried it with a 720p scene release I had been meaning to watch with great results! Video plays great on the xoom, and it was larger than 4GB (4.1), so I'm unsure about that limit. Thanks, I recommend this for sure!

parrotheadmjb said:
Theres already a bunch of 1-click tools that will remux it for you.
XenonMKV works great, theres a number of other tools that were made for the xbox 360 that do this since the 360 will play mp4 but not mkv. Try out xenonmkv and see how well that works on the xoom, I haven't tried yet.. I did think about it a few months ago but never got around to it.
edit: also, if you want it to, it'll split the file for you if its >4gb since the file system kinda limits us to 4gb files
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Great suggestion - I'm trying XenonMKV right now. Its basically an automated 1click way of performing the steps I outlined above and it seems to be working very well. It looks like we finally have a way of converting and playing MKV files on the XOOM fast and easy without waiting hours to re-encode!! Wow this really changes my opinion of the XOOM.

Tried Xenonmkv out on a 1.2 GB 720p high profile h264 mkv file with ac3 audio. It was able to change the container to mp4 keeping the video quality the same and reencoding the ac3 to aac and remuxing all in less than 5 minutes.

thor17 said:
Tried Xenonmkv out on a 1.2 GB 720p high profile h264 mkv file with ac3 audio. It was able to change the container to mp4 keeping the video quality the same and reencoding the ac3 to aac and remuxing all in less than 5 minutes.
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What settings are you using? I am trying it now and it has been running for 40 minutes. Forgive my ignorance with this video stuff. It seems to be taking just as long as using DVD Catalyst or Handbrake.

keitht said:
What settings are you using? I am trying it now and it has been running for 40 minutes. Forgive my ignorance with this video stuff. It seems to be taking just as long as using DVD Catalyst or Handbrake.
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Somethings definitely wrong there. Try re-installing - downloading required libraries Nero- visual basic runtimes etc - also watch all the messages it displays as the MKV is being processed and observe what step it gets stuck on - that should give you a clue as to which tool or library is missing. Of course, its also possible you fed it a video it can't handle, for example I wonder whether it can process a file with DTS audio - something like that might make it hang or give an error message.

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Somethings definitely wrong there. Try re-installing - downloading required libraries Nero- visual basic runtimes etc - also watch all the messages it displays as the MKV is being processed and observe what step it gets stuck on - that should give you a clue as to which tool or library is missing. Of course, its also possible you fed it a video it can't handle, for example I wonder whether it can process a file with DTS audio - something like that might make it hang or give an error message.
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I tried a different video file and it worked much faster, 17 minutes. The one that took a long time did say "Detected video or audio codec: A_DTS". Not seeing any error though. If most are around 17 minutes, that is good enough for me.

keitht said:
I tried a different video file and it worked much faster, 17 minutes. The one that took a long time did say "Detected video or audio codec: A_DTS". Not seeing any error though. If most are around 17 minutes, that is good enough for me.
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That seems about right - a 40 minute 720p MKV takes about 5 or 6 minutes on my computer.
A two hour 720p video takes about 15 minutes. It still takes time to re-encode that much audio, but still far less than something like DVD catalyst or Handbrake. And on a faster computer, I would imagine it would take hardly any time at all.
I assume from your results that the DTS file worked eventually, just took a long time. I was able to convert a two hour DTS file using the manual tools I listed above in conjunction with OjoSoft Audio converter and it took more than 20 minutes, so I gues DTS takes a bit longer than AC3.

Dvdcatalyst 4 seems to be working the best for me. Only 9 buks right now.
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Dvdcatalyst 4 seems to be working the best for me. Only 9 buks right now.
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DVDcatalyst is an excellent program. And until now, was one of the best solutions for converting MKV videos for the XOOM. Only problem is, with DVDcatalyst and Handbrake and similar programs you are re-encoding your entire video - and in the case of DVDcatalyst, to a lower profile, with a potentional loss of quality. Using DVDcatalyst, I have noticed macroblocking and distortion on its fast, and HQ1 settings. And its HQ2 setting takes a very long time.
By re-encoding only the audio, with something like XenonMKV you are leaving the video un-touched with zero loss or change in quality.
Put more simply, DVDcatalyst and Handbrake are doing a tremendous ammount of unnecessary work to convert a video. Work which is no longer necessary under HC 3.1, because it is capable of handling many high profile 720p h264 files now natively, without conversion.

After viewing this posts, i think this is a good idea. but i still don't know how to operate. i usually use Fox Real Xoom video converter to convert mkv to mp4 for playing. i know it is sample, but i don't know if the way Digital Man provides is also simple?

Unless there is a freeware one click solution for this, there is no point for me, I can handbrake Tron bluray in under 20 minutes. Ripping from the disc takes about 10 more.
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oh...your post seems really amazing, but i had took money to buy a xoom video converter. maybe i should watch your post earlier.

alias_neo said:
Unless there is a freeware one click solution for this, there is no point for me, I can handbrake Tron bluray in under 20 minutes. Ripping from the disc takes about 10 more.
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Xenonmkv is a freeware one click solution.

thor17 said:
Xenonmkv is a freeware one click solution.
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Ummm what he said.
I think thats the whole point. We now have a one click solution that doesn't require re-encoding. (have to read the whole thread people - its really not that long!) I am not using my original steps anymore either. I am using the batch/folder convert in XenonMKV.
I think I will edit the first post in this thread and add XenonMKV as a better solution. Special thanks to parrotheadmjb for sugesting a one click solution in XenonMKV!

Good work, i kinda gave up on movies on my xoom as dvdcat took so long. Does this support 1080p rips? Is the file size cut down alot?
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