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I'm willing to get a Hero, I never use 3G and I'm not willing, besides I think it won't be supported in my country.
Well, I want to know which decent app allows you to have just the maps you need on memory to use the GPS in offline mode. I don't need voice navigation, just a dot which tells you exactly where you are. I used to do this very easily on a Nokia phone and with just 100MB for maps stored, yes just a few cities but enough.
And yes... I want Android but this is the main buy or not buy feature I'm looking for.
Is there such app? What about Android 2? Any chance on a Google maps mod?
CoPilot is a (pay) app and the only way for offline GPS.
Smartphone without internet access is useless, imho. Get a dumbphone and a proper GPS, and you'll be much happier until they implement mobile internet access in your neck of the woods ;-)
I know what you mean
i am with you on this one, i have ported over from Windows Mobile where i used Memory Map which was FanBloodyTastic........but unfortunatly its not on android, i have asked them by email and they say not yet....but i am sure something will come out soon for this as a lot of people are asking for this type of app.
I downloaded Maverick from the market and it works fabulously well. Google mpas, Bing maps, and others, and all will be stored on the SD car, but you obviously need first to download the pieces that you need with WiFi.
RMaps works well too but doesnt store maps on SD card, only uses a cache of 4MB.
If i were you i would check out this maverick thing, coz thats what im about to do!
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RMaps works well too but doesnt store maps on SD card, only uses a cache of 4MB.
If i were you i would check out this maverick thing, coz thats what im about to do!
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RMaps does not store maps but you can download the maps using Trekking Buddy and use them with RMaps. I use RMaps to view Google Maps offline and it works great. The only problem is, of course, you can't search for an address.
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CoPilot is a (pay) app and the only way for offline GPS.
Smartphone without internet access is useless, imho. Get a dumbphone and a proper GPS, and you'll be much happier until they implement mobile internet access in your neck of the woods ;-)
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Offline GPS seems to be the only way to get GPS abroad for me. Data roaming is just too expensive.
I use NDrive and it is absolutely fantastic... you should check it out
CoPilot is cheap, easy to use, and fast.
NDrive is very similar to TomTom (there's no TomTom GPS apps for Androids btw) in that it requires you to go through lots of sub-menus just to do a simple task. Its slow, buggy, and not worth the extra money.
Offline GPS is far superior to any online version (doesn't require nearby cellphone towers), just a clear line of sight of the sky. The whole GoogleNavigator is very gimmicky. While its nice that you can see a picture of the actual destination, its nav software is far from accurate.
Here's a list of the Offline GPS software available (that I know of):
Co-Pilot Live 8
NDRIVE SatNav
Motonav - iGO
Papago X5
Sygic Mobile Map 9
I use IGO 8 and love it better than tom tom or google maps
PM me for links to IGO 8 with world maps best navigation app with latest maps
Mapdroyd will let you download and store maps. It then gives you your position on the map. No navigation though.....
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Any opinions on the best navigation software for our phones (that DOESN'T) require a monthly subscription? I looked at the TomTom software but they apparently don't have any maps available for the United States that I can find. I have Bing and Google Maps but those both require a data connection. They also don't provide turn by turn voice guidance or follow along with you very well or dynamically reroute you.
shouldnt all turn-by-turn apps have data usage since it needs to track u...
otherwise from that, garmin is really nice. turn by turn, though i notice it does lag behind a LITTLE bit, but it still works quite nicely.
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shouldnt all turn-by-turn apps have data usage since it needs to track u...
otherwise from that, garmin is really nice. turn by turn, though i notice it does lag behind a LITTLE bit, but it still works quite nicely.
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No, not all turn-by-turn apps have data usage, for example Tomtom does not use data.
Have you considered CoPilot 8?
There are plenty of different software packages you can use; just to mention TomTom, iGO8 etc.
CoPilot 8 is a very good package, especially given its low cost. It includes all maps for North America, and doesn't require a data connection while running (but can use one if you choose the Live services add-on to get traffic/gas price updates).
Data usage is used in two ways.
To update the maps as you move along (google etc), or to give live info (traffic reports etc)
MOST of the purchased gps software will include the full maps to the location you buy it, and will only need data if you want live traffic etc.
Some of the more common gps apps are, TomTom, Garmin, iGo8, CoPilot 8
i personally use iGo8 in europe and love it.
Copilot is great
I have used copilot before on both Windows Mobile and Android. Right now its only $20 on their site and that includes the maps so you don't have to have a data connection. I have tried a bunch of nav solutions and this one is probably the best for overall functionality and price.
I recommend TOMTOM. I used CoPilot 8 for a few months and it works well but sometimes the directions it gives are weird specially when I traveled to another state I was getting confused with the directions it was giving me compared to TOMTOM which are faster and more direct.
I'm happy with Copilot, routing is fast and accurate.
However voice warnings are terrible. They are slow, and usually late. I miss Garmin on that front.
I like just google maps............. however i also have tom tom installed............. install this, then during install you will be automaticly promted to download your 1 free city during the install...... yeah, i cant find anything online from them either. Well, I couldn't attach it here, guess it was too big. It's on here somewhere the file name is... QM_TomTom_Navigator_7.916.9189.1_VGA
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I recommend TOMTOM. I used CoPilot 8 for a few months and it works well but sometimes the directions it gives are weird specially when I traveled to another state I was getting confused with the directions it was giving me compared to TOMTOM which are faster and more direct.
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Thanks.
To clarify, I don't mind if it uses data, I have unlimited data, I just don't want data to be REQUIRED for it to work. Actually, I wouldn't even care so much about that, AT&T's data coverage is okay if you will accept EDGE. I just want the voice turn by turn directions.
One other caveat, it has to be able to run from my existing microSD card. I don't care if I have to hack it or whatever, I just need it to run from my existing card with my music, etc on it. I looked at the Garmin, but you had to use only their card apparently. :-/
i use google maps for finding places and stuff. but it still doesnt have turn by turn. if it did i would probably use that. but for that i use garmin. been using it for quite some time. its the best looking and probably the most user friendly of the nav software. the gas prices feature is fantastic. but if you dont have the money you could go for something like copiolot. i havent used it though.
I have tried TomTom, Copilot and iGo in the past and have landed on iGo as my firm favorite
I am a Garmin fan. I have used various garmin devices on my motorcycles for many years. For my PDA, years ago I got a bundle with a bluetooth GPS and TomTom. Hated it. Recently, I got achance to try the Garmin XT software. Didn't care for it either.
I would like a chance to try out the iGo software. It can't be any worse, and can be found fairly cheap.
For now I use Google or Bing most of the time. I don't need the voice prompts.
Does anyone here have the navipanel from the leo?
For the life of me, I can't understand all the love for CoPilot. I bought it on Christmas day for $19. I feel swindled.
1. The primary function of navigation software is 'navigation'. This is pretty much impossible when you're working with anchient maps. I live in a city of 2+ million and my neighborhood is 7-8 years old. My neighborhood is not in CoPilot's maps...
2. The app is buggy. If I do an online update through the app, I get an error that tells me that the POI database does not match the online database. THey have POI's that don't have corresponding streets. If you tell it to create a route between to streetless POI's it draws a straight line, which is laughable...
3. The Copilot central app is extremely buggy and the gui is terrible. First, it doesn't support netbook resolution of 1024x600. Second, the application update function doesn't work. I know there is a more current version of the app out there (I have 8.0.0.346), but CoPilot central will not show me the update. Third, the map update dated Dec 29 hangs the app upon launch. All of this is from a stock t-mo rom after hard reset and format of SD card.
4. SUpport from ALK is somthing that you would expect from a company 7-8 years ago. there is no forum or searchable knowledgebase. You can submit trouble tickets, but I have yet to receive an acknowledgment of my map update request. Apparently they will add my address in 45 days, but I have serious doubts this will happen because of all of the missing roads in my neighborhood.
5. Features advertised on ALK's website are not present in my version of the app.
I could go on an on. To sum up... CoPilot is a POS, and I encourage everyone to stay away!!!
Copilot Live
I have recently switched to copilot live 8 from OCN 8.3. I find that the maps on Copilot 8 are current in my area (roads finished last year are included). I can confirm that the Copilot central software does not work on a netbook but is fine on other machines.
I have not run into the bugs mentioned above but I will update if I do. As far as the features go the software is a couple of months old. I consider it a bonus that I can purchase for $20 and upgrade only thoes features I care about.
When it comes down to it my switch was for 2 reasons. I can use my own SD card and I can get live traffic updates. OCN does not support traffic in the US and is limited to an 8 gb card.
tomtom is the simplest and the easiest to use.. there are maps for the usa.... i am currently using one that is the usa and canada together.. tomtom pics some crazy routes sometimes... but its easy to pick another..
garmin is ok... but not very customizable... hope you like the way it looks, cuz youre pretty much stuck with it... the way you add the maps is cool... you pick the states you want... so you dont have to fill up your card with stuff you dont want... im not inpressed with the way you have to enter address in this one..
igo in my opinion is the best... if you get tts voices for it, it will say the street names.. it shows the buildings if youre in a big enough city... and the 3d effect is pretty nice... it also lets you know what lane to be in on the highway and it shows you the signs you will see on the road.. the biggest drawback for this one for me is the load time...
i have never tried copilot so i cannot rank that one... hope that helps
Is this how you get iGO for north america and/or United States:
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/
I googled iGO, but all I found was a European product...
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Is this how you get iGO for north america and/or United States:
http://www.oncoursenavigator.com/
I googled iGO, but all I found was a European product...
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according to http://www.navngo.com/pages/global/eng/where_to_buy you are correct.
hello guys,
i stumbled over an app called navdroyd in the market. it promises 100% offline turn by turn routing and tts with osm and android tts voice (sdk >1.6). does anybody has some experience with this app? it sounds really promising so I tried the free mapdroyd app from same developer.
navdroyd $6.49/€4.99: http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.osa.android.navdroyd/NavDroyd
mapdroyd free: http://www.androidpit.com/en/android/market/apps/app/com.osa.android.mapdroyd/MapDroyd
mapdroyd works like a charm. you can download worldwide mapcontent via wifi an store them on sd but i'm missing the ability to search and set pois, which navdroyd provides. I think this would be a really awesome alternative to navigon or motonav for people without a dataplan. but before I purchase this app, maybe somebody can share his experience!?
hi there..
i've try both apps on my phone and yes navdroyd is much better than mapdroyd. actually both interfaces and appearance are quite similar but the diff is u get "cruise mode" on navdroyd which provides you 3d navigation =)
ahm ... yeah, that was already clear for me ... just like its named navdroyd and their homepages mapdroyd.com and navdroyd.com discribe: mapdroyd shows map and navdroyd navigates you ... i wanted to know how good this works, not which abilities each program has
e.g ... i'm interested if navdroyd announces only directions or also streetnames via text to speech and if navigation continues if the display is turned off (for motorcycle navigation)... etc
Why dont you simply buy the app, you have 24 hours to ask for a refund! Navdroyd has a simulate route feature, which gives a nice demo of the software.
I have used navdroyd now a couple of times for actual car navigation. It does work pretty well, announces instructions in time, also reads out road names (with comical results when the names are not english), recalculates routes if you miss a turn and so on....
It feels a bit rough still in some places, given its still a very early version. The search function is too basic for my liking, and the routing has a tendency of generating too many keep left/right messages when in fact you simply need to keep driving ahead on the same road.
I only used it in the car, and the display is kept on all the time, so dont know about switching the display off, or even switching to a different app ?
Given it uses OSM data, there still can be data gaps, but hey you can just go to openstreetmap and add the road!
Finally, the developers are very responsive and I have submitted some bug/missing features reports, hopeful this will all be added soon. Just email them if you still feel you have questions.
Anyone care to review this app?
were my brief comments not enough ?
does it have offline routing?
i was wondering how it does it considering it uses OSM maps (yes i know you pre download them).
cheers,
Cool but realistically MotoNav is just as easy. 1 State file and bam.
I wish Google Nav would have something like this. Where I have problems with Google Nav is when I get out of Airports and trying to pull data whilst in a concrete parking garage isn't fun.
Google Maps is worth its weight in gold but I can't get into the Navigator. I use Google Maps to search and navigate mosty and use MotoNav as a backup.
you cant actually go to specific addresses like someones house
Yes its 100% offline routing and maps ... so no need for a data connection once you have downloaded the maps initially. they are pretty small, the whole of the uk for example is 103mb.
because its based on OSM, it doesn't have that many addresses at the moment, but I find that street name in general is more than enough to get where you want to go. You can also search for junctions between two streets which might help as well.
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HA!.....................
sorry for bumping this old thread but I had a question:
After paying for the app, do you have to pay for each map you download or is all that free?
Also, does this offer POIs, such as Dunk n' Donuts, restaurants, or gas stations?
Thanks.
yeah, opnce you have bought the app, the maps are free.
2 things, and i hope the Navdroyd people read this, I have been fairly disappointed in the customer service ( i know, $5) but i offered to help with the maps in my local area, as at the moment they are VERY old and near on unusable. well actually, they are unusable as there are WAY too many unnamed streets, which are named in OSM...
secondly, the POIs seem a little limited, not sure about other areas (im in Perth, Western Australia)
well one more, they don't seem to update the maps too often (definately not every 6wks as they say). As a result there is no use updating OSM for your area as you don't see any changes.
Navdroyd people please read this! I would like to assist!!!
Palitu
i'm not very happy with navdroid, ended up driving totally wrong with the out-dated maps, heck, the street where i grew up isn't even on the map (im from belgium)
Wow... they tore down your street? bummer!
alloin said:
i'm not very happy with navdroid, ended up driving totally wrong with the out-dated maps, heck, the street where i grew up isn't even on the map (im from belgium)
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One option would be to contribute to the OpenStreetMap project and fix those problems you know of
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One option would be to contribute to the OpenStreetMap project and fix those problems you know of
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no, that wont work, i have gone through and updated this on OSM and there hasn't been any changes.
Not only that, the OSM has the streets alread named. Not sure why they don't cross over onto NavDroyd...
Is there a way to replace the maps from Navdroyd for other ones like google or something more updated?. The area where I live doesn't have the street names and has very limited POIs.
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Is there a way to replace the maps from Navdroyd for other ones like google or something more updated?. The area where I live doesn't have the street names and has very limited POIs.
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you cannot... amking up the length of the message
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no, that wont work, i have gone through and updated this on OSM and there hasn't been any changes.
Not only that, the OSM has the streets alread named. Not sure why they don't cross over onto NavDroyd...
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The problem is with the update frequency of the NavDroyd maps. They use their own "micromap" format, so the OSM data have to be "compiled" into that format every once in a while.
It's actually in their FAQ, see questions "How often do you update NavDroyd's map database?" and "Can I download OSM maps and use them directly in NavDroyd?".
(sorry, I'm apparently not yet allowed to post external links)
I've search around but would like to get specific responses/results from TMO US users on the HD2. What is the best navigation you guys/gals are using?
I am coming from the Nexus One and spoiled by the Google Navigation Beta, I am looking for something similar. I heard that bing has navigation now? Any reviews on that? I have a GPS system in my car but love the flexibility of having something on my phone (for those instances you aren't in YOUR car).
Price is also a factor for me. I am looking to go for the free to low cost route.
I appreciate any responses, and do apologize if this has been discussed in depth (please link the thread, and I will request this one to be deleted).
Heres a link of bing in action.
This actually looks pretty decent. I'll have to check it out and see how it performs.
http://www.gadgetvenue.com/bing-navigation-tested-htc-hd2-05130659/
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I've search around but would like to get specific responses/results from TMO US users on the HD2. What is the best navigation you guys/gals are using?
I am coming from the Nexus One and spoiled by the Google Navigation Beta, I am looking for something similar. I heard that bing has navigation now? Any reviews on that? I have a GPS system in my car but love the flexibility of having something on my phone (for those instances you aren't in YOUR car).
Price is also a factor for me. I am looking to go for the free to low cost route.
I appreciate any responses, and do apologize if this has been discussed in depth (please link the thread, and I will request this one to be deleted).
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CoPilot Live 8 never let me down
BING is really poppin (as long as you are connected to data and GPS satellites). If you lose the signal you have to restart the app (it will freeze on the last position you had Sat access) but overall, it is a good Navi with just about every street name voiced in the turn by turn. I keep my Copilot 8 backup (USA) just in case I am in an area where the Sat isnt available for a few miles. (I take LONG trips) LOL.
OH yeah and Copilot 8 is only 29.99 with the US map but dont look for it to call out all your street names (if you enjoy that as I do)
I use TomTom without data, only GPS.
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Heres a link of bing in action.
This actually looks pretty decent. I'll have to check it out and see how it performs.
http://www.gadgetvenue.com/bing-navigation-tested-htc-hd2-05130659/
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Yes I think Bing is the closest free solution to what you're looking for. The most commonly-used paid options around here are TomTom, CoPilot Live, and iGo 8, you'll find many members who recommend one of those.
Bing is a good option if you have constant data connection, but I would never rely on a nav program that requires data connection for long or important trips. (even google nav on android) Im currently using Garmin XT on my HD2 and it works well. Needs about 3gb of storage for US and Canada maps. It does not call out street names as well.
Thanks all, I think Bing will work best for me.
Basically I only need to use it in a pinch (like in someone elses car and lost) since I have navigation in my car already.
And I do have unlimited data (and basically unlimited everything else) for super cheap
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OH yeah and Copilot 8 is only 29.99 with the US map but dont look for it to call out all your street names (if you enjoy that as I do)
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Do you pay 29.99 every time a new map gets released?
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Anyone know off the top of their head the breakdown in costs for tomtom and the garmin apps?
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What's wrong with the Google Maps GPS that is bundled with the phone? (stock 2.13)
Seems to work swimmingly for me, minus voice.
Nothings wrong with it, just doesn't provide turn by turn navigation.
Usually I use google maps, find what I'm looking for/check traffic, then input address into my car navigation system.
Although, if Bing works well enough, I might just sell off my Magellan! Maybe use the cash to buy one of the above suggested services as well (garmin tomtom iGo etc.)
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Nothings wrong with it, just doesn't provide turn by turn navigation.
Usually I use google maps, find what I'm looking for/check traffic, then input address into my car navigation system.
Although, if Bing works well enough, I might just sell off my Magellan! Maybe use the cash to buy one of the above suggested services as well (garmin tomtom iGo etc.)
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Bing is fine. I have Garmin and TomTom on my device and they both works fine and great..
Waze
There's a new navigation app in the Windows Marketplace called Waze which looks pretty cool. It offers turn-by-turn direction, traffic updates, and even user updates. I've only played around with it for a day, but so far it seems good. The best part is that it's free, so if you don't care for it, just delete it.
Latest version of Google Maps provides voice navigation(beta) in the latest Android version. I expect it to make it to the other phones before too long. Google doesn't want to give up the entire market to Bing.
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There's a new navigation app in the Windows Marketplace called Waze which looks pretty cool. It offers turn-by-turn direction, traffic updates, and even user updates. I've only played around with it for a day, but so far it seems good. The best part is that it's free, so if you don't care for it, just delete it.
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I'll have to check this out tonight. See how it compares to bing.
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Latest version of Google Maps provides voice navigation(beta) in the latest Android version. I expect it to make it to the other phones before too long. Google doesn't want to give up the entire market to Bing.
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Yeah I figured this would come eventually, but the google navigation has been included with some android phones for a while now (mytouch, mytouch slide, nexus one.. but not on the cliq or g1, at least without rooting). So who knows the timeframe we should expect it to be included with google maps for all phones..
Nav apps for HD-2. Navigon, Co-Pilot, Bing, TomTom
I am personally using Navigon and like it very much. The only problem is that it doesn't work with the car kit. Not a huge deal, I just set it not to launch automatically and start Navigon manually. It uses Google to find POI which is pretty neat and has a number of advanced features like lane guidance and a 3D mode that pops up expressway exit signs to show you exactly where to exit.
Also have Copilot installed, Text to speech is available with a free update and the correct voice. It works well, but I found it to pick some questionable routes.
I used TomTom on a Kaiser and found it worked well, but the basic program is behind others. No text to speech or lane guidance for example. And for this lack of advancement, TomTom charges a premium price. Often as much as dedicated GPS units with more advanced features.
Bing I've found to be iffy. If it doesn't know where your street is, it will just take you to the center of town which is pretty stupid. I'm sure it will get better with time, but right now I wouldn't rely on it. Navigon frequently goes on sale for about $40.00 and Copilot as mentioned is a bargain at $29.99.
I have been using Waze for the past week. It's okay considering it's free. The nicest part is you can edit the map yourself. If you're into wiki editing, it's for you. It apparantly adapts route to live traffic patterns, but that only works if lots of people in your area are using it. Considering that there's only 50,000 users worldwide, the likelihood that here is even 1 other person your area is slim. I'd say Bing is better for the time being.
BING! is freakn awesome i love it hasnt steered me wrong yet cant say the same for google maps its trash.
The new Google Maps & Nav supposedly blows Bing out of the water. It's only available for Android, though.
try NDrive, its pretty reliable and accurate.
It puzzles me why some ROMs have better GPS performance than others. I was on JPJPA earlier and had usable GPS navigation experiences in town, I flash JP8 and all hell breaks lose So to me, this ruled out that my phone has a hardware problem.
You can say that I live in a densely populated area in Boston, and after going through a lot of forum literature , today I carried out a little experiment.
I made a round trip to some place here in Boston, selected Copilot on my way to go, and Google Nav on my way back and here are the results:
Google Nav with "Use Wireless Networks" under location settings:
HERE
Google Nav without "Use Wireless Networks":
HERE
CoPilot:
HERE
In both trips, I took Beacon St and Longwood Ave (notice the difference).
Now while CoPilot is not exactly perfect, it performs way better than Google Nav! It didn't have to reroute or recalculate. (The circle you see in the beginning is me stopping by a gas station, yes, it was that accurate, it messes up only at the rail intersection of st paul & beacon)
I noticed a difference in the lock pattern and speed when using different programs. For example, GPS Status seems to take the longest to get a lock from a Cold Start, but once it locks, programs like CoPilot lock quickly using a Hot Start (reusing data from GPS Status)
Google Navigation, and several other programs however, seem to be using something entirely different. It seems Google Nav (and Maps btw) take the same amount of time to get initial lock whether (a) I used GPS Status prior or (b) did not use it at all.
I can only speculate at this point, but I think that Android provides more than one API to obtain GPS accuracy. I suspect that CoPilot and GPS Status (among others) use their own calculations to determine GPS position using raw satellite data, whereas Google Nav uses some built-in APIs in Android that give positioning data that are false. I believe that Google Maps uses some AGPS settings regardless of what you set in "Location and settings", and that, messes everything up. (You can see in my tracks above how google maps have bigger arcs when I made a u-turn, instead of showing a sharp turn).
A nice test would be to disable radio completely; that way Google Nav can't access AGPS data. But of course you run into the problem that Google can't operate without a valid data connection.
I just wanted to share my observations, if you guys have more ideas, lets share
Google Navigator is overrated. Co-Pilot, Navigon, NDrive are far better applications. If Trapster became an integrated layer in Google Nav, I'd use it.
Well written article btw.
Billus said:
Google Navigator is overrated. Co-Pilot, Navigon, NDrive are far better applications. If Trapster became an integrated layer in Google Nav, I'd use it.
Well written article btw.
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thing is, Google Nav did work fine in JPJPA. I'd like to use it instead because it has the latest listings and some pretty accurate traffic conditions. If we can find the problem, or find out what data or files Google Nav accesses, then we could possibly fix this problem on multiple ROMs.
Gmaps is perfect for finding and typing locations to go to, co-pilot more for the actual navigating, .. while you're driving; gmaps is way easier to use then co-pilot. But yea, less inaccuracy probs with co-pilot besides having a slower fix.
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I suspect that CoPilot and GPS Status (among others) use their own calculations to determine GPS position using raw satellite data, whereas Google Nav uses some built-in APIs in Android that give positioning data that are false. I believe that Google Maps uses some AGPS settings regardless of what you set in "Location and settings", and that, messes everything up. (You can see in my tracks above how google maps have bigger arcs when I made a u-turn, instead of showing a sharp turn).
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coPilot and other nav apps force lock on roads besides real position until they can't do it.
Google Maps doesn't do it
And no, they can't access raw gps data, the only way is through google api
Oletros said:
coPilot and other nav apps force lock on roads besides real position until they can't do it.
Google Maps doesn't do it
And no, they can't access raw gps data, the only way is through google api
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see above tracks. While GoogNav might "lock" you on a road, I'm posting the actual GPS coordinates that were received. It may have looked like I was on a road on my screen, but you can see the google nav tracks above that show the points the program received. The pointer hovers all over the place.
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see above tracks. While GoogNav might "lock" you on a road, I'm posting the actual GPS coordinates that were received. It may have looked like I was on a road on my screen, but you can see the google nav tracks above that show the points the program received. The pointer hovers all over the place.
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All the tracks where recorded with the same program?
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All the tracks where recorded with the same program?
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Yup. my tracks
madmack said:
Yup. my tracks
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So, all the GPS data has nothing to do with the program used (Google Navigation, coPilot), it's collected from the same source, Android GPS API
Oletros said:
So, all the GPS data has nothing to do with the program used (Google Navigation, coPilot), it's collected from the same source, Android GPS API
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Dude, my tracks *listens* to whatever the GPS is receiving when other programs are using it.
So the main program that was running was either CoPilot or Google Nav. They're the ones invoking the GPS location commands (we know that because my two tracks are so different than each others).
My Tracks, in both cases, sits in the back seats and writes notes.
madmack said:
Dude, my tracks *listens* to whatever the GPS is receiving when other programs are using it.
So the main program that was running was either CoPilot or Google Nav. They're the ones invoking the GPS location commands (we know that because my two tracks are so different than each others).
My Tracks, in both cases, sits in the back seats and writes notes.
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What? My tracks uses GPS API to collect data, it doesn't sniff anything from other programs
Oletros said:
What? My tracks uses GPS API to collect data, it doesn't sniff anything from other programs
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You might be right, but then how do you explain the two different tracks posted above ?
regardless of who is right or who is wrong, using any dedicated offline GPS software is way better than google maps/nav
of all the fews currently available for Android, i find Copilot to be the most accurate one, it shows the speed/stops exactly as when a police have a speed gun tracking me.
It is always in the correct lane of the road.
using the other GPS software have some sort of lags, or performance is poor, or the display is lousy, etc.
I agree with using Copilot
On my AT&T Captivate, my gps lock is hit or miss. I was having some major issues getting a gps lock using Google Nav but when I closed Google and opened Copilot the gps locked in after about 8 seconds and held. Google Nav kept kicking on and off. Google Maps had me doing a U-Turn on my way home taking me away from my destination, Copilot was right on track.