Evening all,
Would anyone be able to enlighten me about how Android selects between wifi and 3g?
i.e. If I have a wifi connection established what governs that traffic is routed via the wireless connection?
Thanks!!
I have a data counter app (3g watchdog) and looks like when WiFi is in range android use it for data than 3G.
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freco said:
I have a data counter app (3g watchdog) and looks like when WiFi is in range android use it for data than 3G.
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That what I expected. REason I wanted to make sure it defaults automatically is I'm going to France (live in UK) and want to use the phone for data without incurring stupid data charges for roaming
There is an option to turn on/off data roaming so when you go abroad you don't have to worry.
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There is an option to turn on/off data roaming so when you go abroad you don't have to worry.
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Ok, Ive always had crappy 3g on my x10 but i put it down to signal issues, i thought i was in a poor 3g area.
I noticed whilst playing around in the settings that i could set the phone from WCDMA only, whereas before it was GSM with WCDMA preferred.
This sorted the problem out perfectly, great 3g performance even with crappy signal, the problem is that for some reason this means when there is no 3g signal it doesnt just fallback to GSM for voice.
From what i have read on the net it seems like changing to WCDMA only should -only- affect the data connection, not the phones voice connection.
Am i doing something wrong?
Is there a way that i can force the phone to use 3G only for data, but still use GSM for voice?
Thanks
in that case you should set the settings to like this 1. wireless controls 2. mobile network 3. network mode "WCDMA" then 4. network operator then search network tap the available current network what u r using do not select the automatically 5. done
after that turn off the phone remove the simcard for 5 sec. then turn on again wala u have 3 to 4 signals on ur 3g connection....
junexyz said:
in that case you should set the settings to like this 1. wireless controls 2. mobile network 3. network mode "WCDMA" then 4. network operator then search network tap the available current network what u r using do not select the automatically 5. done
after that turn off the phone remove the simcard for 5 sec. then turn on again wala u have 3 to 4 signals on ur 3g connection....
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Thanks for the tip, it didnt work, but thanks
I have GSM/WCDMA selected but data unchecked and still works great
Anyone know what app can manage data and mms? I mean I don't want data connection but I still want mms enable.
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Gunawan, GN Mutimedia & X10i
gunawan-1 said:
Anyone know what app can manage data and mms? I mean I don't want data connection but I still want mms enable.
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Gunawan, GN Mutimedia & X10i
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ouch, seriously doubt that's possible on the x10
maybe deleting the 3g APN or creating a blank one and just selecting the right mms one
Isn't MMS dependent on data?
iead1 said:
Isn't MMS dependent on data?
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It is but you can create 2 APNs one for data and one for MMS and after enable/disable the data APN on case by case needs
At least i think it works on rogers because i saw separate settings for MMS only.
I am confused too. Hohoho... But as I remember, previous phones (such as X1,X2,p990) did have this options. Correct me if I am wrong. Because I always connect internet/browsing using wifi. Except mms.
Gunawan, GN Mutimedia & X10i
If I enable 3g, my battery only can stay around half day. But when I only enable wifi, it was almost double the time.
Anybody know why?
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yes... same here 3g uses more data.. i find if i turn on wifi at night battery lasts longer.. and if you disable data totally it lasts even longer.
Yes, if disable all the internet connection. It can last 3 days for me.
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That's normal and quite reasonable.
With 3g your phone has to transmit with much higher energy (since the antenae are potentially thousands of meters away). With WIFI it only has to transmit to 100-200 meters max.
Have my phone set for 2G with wifi always on.
Use wifi at home.
2G is enough for all normal syncs, and if I need more speed for anything else I temporarily switch to 3G for that.
This way a single charge last me well over 24h under normal usage. Don't even know exactly how much.
With the phone set to 3G, the same usage patern will eat a full charge in something like 8h.
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Is it possible to set to '2g only' in froyo?
So far I can only find the option to completely switch off data, but not choose the type of mobile data connection.
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Yes switching to '2g' only is easy, you can find it in wireless settings under mobile networks. It's the 'network mode' on there.
Myself I use 3G only because I listen Internet radio a lot in my car and of course 2G is not enough and if it's set to both 2G and 3G the connection breaks way too often. Of course I couldn't do that if there were areas that would not cover 3G.
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That's normal and quite reasonable.
With 3g your phone has to transmit with much higher energy (since the antenae are potentially thousands of meters away). With WIFI it only has to transmit to 100-200 meters max.
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Here is the right answer, and the battery consumption can be quit high if you have poor 3g reception or u are just between edge/3g signal the phone consume much more power when it tried to find the best signal
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Yes switching to '2g' only is easy, you can find it in wireless settings under mobile networks. It's the 'network mode' on there.
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In Network mode, select GSM or WCDMA for 2g?
allotrios said:
That's normal and quite reasonable.
With 3g your phone has to transmit with much higher energy (since the antenae are potentially thousands of meters away). With WIFI it only has to transmit to 100-200 meters max.
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Is that really true? When Idle, is the phone transmitting? Or only receiving?
Just go and install JuiceDefender, It turns off 3G when screen is off. Simple. To set to 2G only then choose GSM.
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in network mode, select gsm or wcdma for 2g?
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gsm = 2g
wcdma = 3g
Just a quick question.
When wifi is turned on and the H/G/3G icon disappears, all data/internet/services are going through wifi rather than the carrier network?
am I correct in saying that.
Thanks, it's for when I go on holiday and for a friend who's on holiday atm.
I think it uses wifi and when that is weak or absent it switches to 3G.
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If you want to be sure turn data off with something like APnOnOff.
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daivik said:
Just a quick question.
When wifi is turned on and the H/G/3G icon disappears, all data/internet/services are going through wifi rather than the carrier network?
am I correct in saying that.
Thanks, it's for when I go on holiday and for a friend who's on holiday atm.
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Yes you're correct.
But if you pay per megabyte you should install some kind of monitor application, like 3G watchdog to keep track of your 3G usage.
And when abroad you can easily turn off 3G data from the power button menu.
I love my new Galaxy S III, but once again I have no way to force HSPA+ only. I need this option while my phone sits in my desk all day. If I can turn LTE off then I can save battery life and still get calls/texts/emails.
STOP IT AT&T, JUST STOP IT!!! Your really starting to really aggravate your customers by not allowing them to select their preferred network.
I want the network mode option in mobile networks:
GSM/HSPA/LTE (Auto)
GSM/HSPA (Auto)
HSPA (only)
GSM (only)
STOP taking this off all your phones. Every other GSM carrier in the world allows this except you!!!
I hope ALL developers add this toggle in all the upcoming roms.
Your best bet until this is added/fixed, is to turn on wi-fi mode and turn off the mobile data connection.
That way you still can make calls, and have the wifi as your data, and if its off it wont use as much power as HSPA/LTE.
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Your best bet until this is added/fixed, is to turn on wi-fi mode and turn off the mobile data connection.
That way you still can make calls, and have the wifi as your data, and if its off it wont use as much power as HSPA/LTE.
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I think you kind of missed the point...
Let's say your at work all day and you don't use your phone much? Let's say your phone gets 1 bar of LTE and 4 of HSPA+. The signal constantly fluctuates ultimately leading to a dead battery much faster.
Wouldn't it be great to just turn LTE off? That way my phone gets a better signal and uses less battery life. Not to mention, I can still receive calls, texts, and e-mails, whereas airplane mode disables everything.
Wi-Fi isn't available everywhere.
PS: AT&T ain't adding ****, they released their first LTE device in November of 2011 and it also lacked this option.
I think you missed the point as well
The reason for turning on wi-fi is to direct the data connection to something other than the chip used for HSPA/LTE. I'm not looking to use the wi-fi connection as an alternative data source. I'm using it to prevent as much battery drain as possible whenever I am not using the phone.
It essentially IS turning off LTE, but it also is turning off your data, and if you don't have wi-fi then you wont have a data connection, but if you do then you will.
Airplane mode is just taking it a step further and blocking calls as well.
So there's no way to turn off LTE? Even via a 4g/3g toggle from the app store?
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So there's no way to turn off LTE? Even via a 4g/3g toggle from the app store?
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Nope, that's not how it worked on the HTC One X... even dialer codes would just reset on exiting. LTE stays on for some stupid reason with ATT.
A bet a toggle with root requirements will come out later./
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I think you missed the point as well
The reason for turning on wi-fi is to direct the data connection to something other than the chip used for HSPA/LTE. I'm not looking to use the wi-fi connection as an alternative data source. I'm using it to prevent as much battery drain as possible whenever I am not using the phone.
It essentially IS turning off LTE, but it also is turning off your data, and if you don't have wi-fi then you wont have a data connection, but if you do then you will.
Airplane mode is just taking it a step further and blocking calls as well.
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Ok? What if you don't have Wifi and your in a very spotty LTE area with fluctuating signal?
Nevertheless, we need the toggle!!!
What about an APN switcher, would that work?
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What about an APN switcher, would that work?
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Nope, many have tried this but it doesn't stick. We need AT&T to add the option under mobile networks.
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Ok? What if you don't have Wifi and your in a very spotty LTE area with fluctuating signal?
Nevertheless, we need the toggle!!!
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Then it would be best to turn off the Wi-fi and the Mobile Data connection, the only reason I have the Wi-fi on is if I'm in an area that has it (home, work, at&t hotspot) otherwise it is automatically turned off (I think?).
And I agree completely, I would love that feature, but until that time we have to make due with what we have, this is my solution, it isn't perfect but it works for me.
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Then it would be best to turn off the Wi-fi and the Mobile Data connection, the only reason I have the Wi-fi on is if I'm in an area that has it (home, work, at&t hotspot) otherwise it is automatically turned off (I think?).
And I agree completely, I would love that feature, but until that time we have to make due with what we have, this is my solution, it isn't perfect but it works for me.
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Yes, but like I said turning off mobile data completely turns off the data connection, whereas with this toggle we can change it to EDGE or HSPA+ only, still having a data connection.
I agree I like turning on edge only when I'm at work and home
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I'm just hoping developers starting adding the GSM toggle via Mobile networks in their custom roms.
AT&T NEVER WILL!!!
It could be the sim card. I have a SIM card from 2007. The network toggle still works on my Thrill. Someone put a newer SIM card in their Thrill and the network toggle is gone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326760 post 27
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It could be the sim card. I have a SIM card from 2007. The network toggle still works on my Thrill. Someone put a newer SIM card in their Thrill and the network toggle is gone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326760 post 27
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And you hit the nail on the head. It's actually a mix of SIM Card and Radio. What we need is the canadian version of our radio and we will have it back.
Erm would juice defender not fix this? I still get texts and calls but it turns off my data.. plus its free! ( i bought the ultimate though)
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Erm would juice defender not fix this? I still get texts and calls but it turns off my data.. plus its free! ( i bought the ultimate though)
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i guess technically it could since it turns off everything (Except calls) and turns it all back on every 15 minutes to check if anything was received on Att servers.
But if hes waiting for an important text or something, it would come delayed until juice defender decided to retrieve it.
not a bad idea though.
Here's an idea, since your at a desk all day, invest $1.32 on monoprice into a USB cable and charge your phone...
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doctorTJ said:
i guess technically it could since it turns off everything (Except calls) and turns it all back on every 15 minutes to check if anything was received on Att servers.
But if hes waiting for an important text or something, it would come delayed until juice defender decided to retrieve it.
not a bad idea though.
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I believe it just turns off 3g and 4g on verizon. My calls and texts are instant. Also, if you buy the app you can change frequency. Mine syncs every hour or two. It may be different with att since verizon handles their 4g in kind of a silly way.
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bloodrain954 said:
Here's an idea, since your at a desk all day, invest $1.32 on monoprice into a USB cable and charge your phone...
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You mean cycle it twice as much as necessary since AT&T has removed the functionality that's needed? :good:
I don't have a data plan so I have data turned off always(I use WiFi only). My question is since data is off anyway, will setting the option for 2G only in Mobile Networks make a difference on battery life?
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I don't have a data plan so I have data turned off always(I use WiFi only). My question is since data is off anyway, will setting the option for 2G only in Mobile Networks make a difference on battery life?
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If you disable mobile data, there is no mobile data. 2g is mobile data. To answer your question, no.
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revamper said:
If you disable mobile data, there is no mobile data. 2g is mobile data. To answer your question, no.
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Thanks
I dunno, but sometimes in different areas when i get a bad signal, setting to 2g only helps even if i have data off.. shrugs.
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If you disable mobile data, there is no mobile data. 2g is mobile data. To answer your question, no.
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Umm no that's not the case. "2G" is GSM and Edge is data (of the 2G kind, there's also 1G which uses GSM but uses GPRS for data). This is why i freaking hate "G"s!!!!!!!
Using 2G only networks will force the phone to use GSM for voice rather tham UMTS/WCDMA (3G).
There used to be the case where using GSM would save power because 3G radios were power hungry (similarly to LTE radios now) but they've long been integrated into 1 chip now so power savings would be nill or very small.