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Backing up and restoring on very similar ROMs seems to include three parts: 1. System data, 2. Applications, and 3. App data.
Let's bring up an example going from stock 2.1 ROM to one of Eugene's Vibrant* or Hybrid ROMs or even one of the Bionix(?) ROMs. What is the consensus of moving stuff over to the new ROM? Restore all three parts; only Applications and App data; or only Applications?
I'm sort of confused as to what to bring over to the new ROM. Thanks.
I think this is what I do in the same order as given below
- Install ROM manager and take a nandroid backup (for system) of the stock ROM
- Install Titanium backup(TB) and take backup of user data, user apps and some system data (like wifi settings)
- Take a backup of the internal SD card to computer (optional)
- Flash the new ROM via clockwork recovery
- Install TB from market and restore all user apps/data from backup
You should be good to go. I assume that the custom ROM you flash has all required system apps that you will need.
Pro Tip: Get Titanium Backup Donate version.. otherwise you're going to have a terrible time restoring apps with the non-donated version.
rakeshchn said:
I think this is what I do in the same order as given below
You should be good to go. I assume that the custom ROM you flash has all required system apps that you will need.
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Right. I don't even think it's even possible to backup system apps, that's why I mentioned only system app data. So, even system data usually or always restores well to new ROMs?
zephiK said:
Pro Tip: Get Titanium Backup Donate version.. otherwise you're going to have a terrible time restoring apps with the non-donated version.
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Why is that?
zephiK said:
Pro Tip: Get Titanium Backup Donate version.. otherwise you're going to have a terrible time restoring apps with the non-donated version.
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how come? I thought it would be better.
Because the full version lets you restore/backup in a batch, so you don't have to *click* *click* *click* a hundred times.
I dont think its right that free version of TB wont allow batch restore. Only thing that will be missed from donate version is fast restore using hypershell. I have not personally used the app, so this is based on what I have read.
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Because the full version lets you restore/backup in a batch, so you don't have to *click* *click* *click* a hundred times.
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The free version lets you batch backup. Are you sure it doesn't let you batch restore?
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The free version lets you batch backup. Are you sure it doesn't let you batch restore?
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Nope. Just back up. No batch restore. I think there's some other advanced functions that the free one won't do as well, but it's been a LONG time since I used the free one.
A small caveat regarding Titanium. There are a small handful of apps that don't behave after being restored - one that comes to mind right away is Google Voice. If you find an app FCs after being restored, just uninstall and re-download from the Market.
I am sure it doesn't, I bought the donate version and only then was I able to batch restore. Also the restores then were able to restore some programs I couldn't restore before.
Alright, then I guess I'll be donating tonight!
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I don't normally use it... but I've started to. When doing a backup do we do all app+ system data and then when we recover, do we do all apps+data? Going from sense to senseless wouldn't that mess things up as it's recovering some HTC frameworks?
DirtyShroomz said:
I don't normally use it... but I've started to. When doing a backup do we do all app+ system data and then when we recover, do we do all apps+data? Going from sense to senseless wouldn't that mess things up as it's recovering some HTC frameworks?
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I do apps + data. I do backup my bookmarks and email settings as well.
DirtyShroomz said:
I don't normally use it... but I've started to. When doing a backup do we do all app+ system data and then when we recover, do we do all apps+data? Going from sense to senseless wouldn't that mess things up as it's recovering some HTC frameworks?
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when i do it, I goto backup/restore tab at the top and then I hit menu and then batch and then I do back up all apps. I dont worry about anything else. Its just setting things up. the apps is where the PITA starts, ya know?
and when you restore just restore apps
apps + data is fine if you add system data some times bad things can happen when going from rom to rom
I use titanium backup and MyBackup Pro. I think My backup pro is more friendly when switching roms.
sminker said:
I do apps + data. I do backup my bookmarks and email settings as well.
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How do you backup your email settings? Also, If your browser doesn't have the export bookmarks option, how do you backup your bookmarks? I know Miren Browser has it, but I'm not sure if CM Stock and Xscope has it.
I've had a bad experience in that I can't seem to get TB to back up angry birds properly.
Every time I switch roms I run my restore and angry birds is an instant force close. I've tried just grabbing it from the market and restoring data only but it gives me the same problem.
Any ideas?
Other than that, TB is the ****.
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I back up User Apps+Data, then when I restore, I only restore Apps, and then go through and restore data for the programs I need it with (Tweetcaster, Tapatalk, Facebook etc.) and I've never had any major problems.
Whom I restored my Dolphin all bookmarks were still there.
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dwertz said:
I use titanium backup and MyBackup Pro. I think My backup pro is more friendly when switching roms.
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+1
When I do use TB, I only back up user apps with data.
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hi im not all that new but im new enough and i have a little experience with Roms on my hd2 and theres one i just really enjoy but i want to try other Roms out without losing all my data i have tried my backup but it takes 16 to 20 min for me to back up is there anything that can do it faster?
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hi im not all that new but im new enough and i have a little experience with Roms on my hd2 and theres one i just really enjoy but i want to try other Roms out without losing all my data i have tried my backup but it takes 16 to 20 min for me to back up is there anything that can do it faster?
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maybe Titanium Backup?
p107r0 said:
maybe Titanium Backup?
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tried it still too slow but thanks
theted said:
tried it still too slow but thanks
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How many app do you have on your phone?
10507 said:
How many app do you have on your phone?
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i have like 36 apps
theted said:
i have like 36 apps
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Wow, with that few app, I don't think it should take that long to backup with Titanium Backup or My Backup. I have around 250+app and both Titanium/My Backup back up my app in less 5 minutes. I think there's something wrong with your SDcard.
idk i just got this one after my last card died on me
I'd suggest checking the card for errors on PC plus defragmentation (mydefrag has flash drive mode),
then you could try increasing card cache size in Android:
- SD Tools to measure RW speed before & after
- SD Speed Increase to set cache size to 2048 or whatever works best for you
-> more details in this thread
Id like to know to for a backup for playlist, apps, photos, I searched for it all I came up with is titanium backup, & mybackup root; but don't work , I used titannium backup for apps it worked, but couldn't restore playlist, data, and photos
Would like to see an application for this
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Id like to know to for a backup for playlist, apps, photos, I searched for it all I came up with is titanium backup, & mybackup root; but don't work , I used titannium backup for apps it worked, but couldn't restore playlist, data, and photos
Would like to see an application for this
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Photos should be somewhere in DCIM folder on your card, so no need for backup app, when it's easier to copy it manually wherever you need.
Apps and settings are backed up by Titanium, with the exception of those installed on card (if I'm correct).
As for playlists, I'm not sure, it may depend on particular player you're using, but I shouldn't expect any problems with Titanium as well - all in all it has separate mode for system/app data and settings backup.
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SO I want to go from the stock 2.2 Android software to the "Virtuous Unity Sense"
My main reasoning for this is,
- I want HTC's gingerbread sense, but it's still not yet released with no word on when it will be.
- Why not upgrade to version 3 if I am going to run a custom rom
Now I have my phone setup EXACTLY how I like it, all the apps took a long time to find and configure, everything works flawlessly and does everything I want it to do.
I assume to upgrade to unity sense I will have to format the phone's memory, what is the best way to backup all the apps and their configurations without loosing any performance or causing problems for the apps?
Also if I one day wanted to load the official HTC 2.3 update is it possible to "un-do" everything and go back to official software?
cheers
The general concensus on backing up is titanium backup. If you are willing to pay for the premium version, it will also do multiple level backup of your apps + data and on restoration, offers a silent installer (ie no need to tap install and done for every app) and it also give suggestions on what to back up at the system level. Hope that helps
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll depend on what version of the HTC ROM you're using.
If it's 1.32, it shouldn't be an issue. root your phone, install titanium backup and let it work it's magic.
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1), in order to root your phone to flash a custom rom, you'll need to downgrade to 1.34 . This means you'll need to format it and flash the original HTC ROM, in which case all your apps would already be gone by the time you get root.
i use QTADB its a program for the computer(Linux/Windows/OSX) will back up to you sdcard it works well and easy to use best of all its free(or though if you use it a lot you should donate)
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If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1)...
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I would assume he has the latest official 1.82 Froyo 2.2.1 ROM. At least this is what I have for many months now.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it'll depend on what version of the HTC ROM you're using.
If it's 1.32, it shouldn't be an issue. root your phone, install titanium backup and let it work it's magic.
If you're using 1.74 (Froyo 2.2.1), in order to root your phone to flash a custom rom, you'll need to downgrade to 1.34 . This means you'll need to format it and flash the original HTC ROM, in which case all your apps would already be gone by the time you get root.
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I see what you're saying, but you should be fine either way, because even in the downgrade process you have to obtain temproot prior to downgrading. so you obtain temp root, download tibu, create your backups, then continue the downgrade process.
once you're done with everything, download tibu again and restore backups. voila.
Titanium Backup > My Backup?
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AreOh said:
Titanium Backup > My Backup?
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yup, by miles
Never used My Backup. Ti backup was perfect for my use the first time i used it so i had no need to try other backups
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I will throw another recommendation for Titanium Backup Pro. Worth the few $$ and its easy to use. Remember, don't backup the 'System Data' unless you plan to restore it to the SAME type of ROM (aka wipe and reinstall the same ROM to fix a problem). Just backup 'Apps + Data'. And restore them on the new ROM.
Thanks for the tips in this thread, just thinking about rooting my phone. I already worked with titanium backup (free version) on my hero and that worked very well. But it has to be rooted and like pmcqueen said I can make the titanium backup before downgrading and after temproot Did not think of that yet.
I've repeatedly had problems when switching ROMs and restoring an apps-only backup made using Titanium Backup Pro. For example, I was running CM7 and decided to try out Virtuous G-Lite to see if the battery life was any better. Shortly after I restored the apps (but NOT data or system data) I repeatedly got errors like "the application *** has stopped unexpectedly". For example, this time the app was Gallery - process.com.cooliris.media, but I've had the same problem with other apps.
Does anyone have a definitive, clean way of restoring apps after switching to a different ROM?
I always thought it was titanium backup also, and used it for a long time....I finally tried the app called mybackup pro and I'm standing firm that this is the best way to restore after switching roms with full wipe. Titanium is still good and has other great features but the mybackup is so good for full restores.
itm said:
I've repeatedly had problems when switching ROMs and restoring an apps-only backup made using Titanium Backup Pro. For example, I was running CM7 and decided to try out Virtuous G-Lite to see if the battery life was any better. Shortly after I restored the apps (but NOT data or system data) I repeatedly got errors like "the application *** has stopped unexpectedly". For example, this time the app was Gallery - process.com.cooliris.media, but I've had the same problem with other apps.
Does anyone have a definitive, clean way of restoring apps after switching to a different ROM?
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Titanium Backup is a definitive way. Your problem with the Gallery app (and similar apps) is that you're trying to restore an integrated ROM-level app to a new ROM. Don't restore apps like Gallery, Clock, etc. that already come with the new ROM, even if you restore without data. Its unnecessary, and can cause issues.
You also have to just keep in mind that not all apps play nice with every ROM. You're going to run into issues. and if you do, just restore to your nandroid backup that you made before restoring apps (you should always do this as a precaution) and deselect the app next time you restore.
veritasaequita said:
I always thought it was titanium backup also, and used it for a long time....I finally tried my the app called mybackup pro and I'm standing firm that this is the best way to restore after switching rooms with full wipe. Titanium is still good and has other great features but the mybackup is so good for full restores.
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Have you had issues with Titanium Backup? I use Titanium Backup frequently and have never had a single issue. Even doing dozens of full restores, restoring apps+data, and even restoring system data when wiping and reinstalling CM7 nightlies, all with no problem.
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Titanium Backup is a definitive way. Your problem with the Gallery app (and similar apps) is that you're trying to restore an integrated ROM-level app to a new ROM. Don't restore apps like Gallery, Clock, etc. that already come with the new ROM, even if you restore without data. Its unnecessary, and can cause issues.
You also have to just keep in mind that not all apps play nice with every ROM. You're going to run into issues. and if you do, just restore to your nandroid backup that you made before restoring apps (you should always do this as a precaution) and deselect the app next time you restore.
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Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Same, I have over 100 apps to restore on a batch restore. Just gotta think smart about it. If you didn't install it from the market, then it probably came with the ROM... And things like Gallery and Clock are already in the ROM, so don't replace those.
Also, you should be running a ROM manager 'fix permissions' after batch restoring apps to fix any little problems.
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Is there an easy way of distinguishing between ROM-level apps and others? I have a list of about 150 apps so picking out individual apps can be a bit of a chore!
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Apps that are stored in the "ROM" (i.e., in /system/app, which is normally mounted read-only) are shown in red in Titanium Backup. Apps that are installed by the user (i.e., in /data/app, which is mounted read-write) are shown in white. System settings are shown in green. You can use TB's filters to show only system apps or only user apps.
One major consideration is that Titanium Backup requires root. It will not run without root, even though some of the tasks it performs does not require root. MyBackup Pro will run without root, though it does not have all the features of TB. So if you are running a firmware release where you cannot even get temp root without first wiping the phone, you should use MyBackup Pro first. Or even if you can get temp root, you might feel safer having a backup first anyway.
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no I havent had any issues at all with TB, and I used it for a long time. just recently I decided to try mybackup pro and was just wowwed by how much more streamlined the task was, even with options to restore call logs, text, contacts and so on. for me personally it just made for a much smoother restore especially with the well mapped gui. I do still keep TB installed as a alternate option though.
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I used several times Titanium Backup but only for user app and always worked well (no crashes, ...)
i'm really getting tired of redoing my info every time i try a new rom... i know froyo is supposed to be able to back up user info but it seems we dont' get that option from sammy. i always back up my apps with titanium but what about the contact list, phone settings, passwords, bookmarks, etc... something that would transfer between roms
mybackup root.
Umm...nandroid? Do a backup and flash rom, then do a selective restore and only restore data. works everytime for me except when downgrading gingerbread back to froyo. Other than that I occasionally use mybackup root
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Umm...nandroid? Do a backup and flash rom, then do a selective restore and only restore data. works everytime for me except when downgrading gingerbread back to froyo. Other than that I occasionally use mybackup root
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+This, and I suggest not to move any apps you download to system/app, or else you'll have to restore system to get those back, and it causes problems.
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zanderman112 said:
+This, and I suggest not to move any apps you download to system/app, or else you'll have to restore system to get those back, and it causes problems.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
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would that include appwidgetpicker? i think that has to be placed in system/apps to run
murso74 said:
would that include appwidgetpicker? i think that has to be placed in system/apps to run
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No but just keep a copy on your sd card. It's the one exception.
I know its a pain but a fresh Install us always the best. I use an app called "appbak" and its so easy. U backup your apps and its just like a text file. Then u restore them and it gives you all your Apps in a list. U for down the list one by one and when you click on the app it will take u directly to that app in the market. Then u just download it. Its pretty fast and it gives u a fresh Install. Then ill use titanium to restore some data for some if my apps.
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musclehead84 said:
I know its a pain but a fresh Install us always the best. I use an app called "appbak" and its so easy. U backup your apps and its just like a text file. Then u restore them and it gives you all your Apps in a list. U for down the list one by one and when you click on the app it will take u directly to that app in the market. Then u just download it. Its pretty fast and it gives u a fresh Install. Then ill use titanium to restore some data for some if my apps.
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i do that with titanium.. i long click the app and press go to market. then i download it from there. installing apps from titanium always seems to lock up. its really the phone settings and addressbook that i'm interested in at this point. i'm sick of adding my accounts, deleting unwanted contacts, changing notifications settings etc, etc
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i'm sick of adding my accounts, deleting unwanted contacts, changing notifications settings etc, etc
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I haven't found a good way around having to enter my gmail account info each time (especially since I've been going back and forth between froyo and GB roms so nandroid backup isn't a good option) but I do keep my contacts organized in gmail, not on the phone, so whenever I do flash a new rom, it just automatically syncs the contacts and I never have to worry about them.
Titanium backup is the best for me.
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mybackup root.
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My Backup wouldn't restore the last backup I made with it, even though the files on the SDcard were fine.
I've switched to Titanium root and it's been reliable so far.
titanium backup pro works. It might restore some older not needed apps but you can take them out later. You can take out any app or info even system apps, info, data.
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My Backup wouldn't restore the last backup I made with it, even though the files on the SDcard were fine.
I've switched to Titanium root and it's been reliable so far.
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My Backup has never successfully restored anything for me. Titanium has been perfect and I've been using it since I got this phone nearly a year ago, though it doesn't do SMS so I also use SMS Backup & Restore, a little freebie from the market which so far has worked well (though I've only tried it a few times).
I agree, Titanium Pro works great. I too also use SMS Backup & Restore for text messages.
Clockwork Mod does all that and then some. Just do a backup in clockwork, install new rom, go back into clockwork/backup&restore/ advanced restore/ and restore data only. It will restore all contacts/texts/picture mail/logins/passwords/apps+app data, etc, all data that doesnt interfere with the new rom.