I'd like to take a moment to thank Froyo, Adobe, and Google for allowing me the possibility to have Adobe Flash if i so please. I can now listen to MANY live radio stations without having to worry about buying a radio app (ESPN Radio for $2.99).
Go Deutschland!
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I'd like to take a moment to thank Froyo, Adobe, and Google for allowing me the possibility to have Adobe Flash if i so please. I can now listen to MANY live radio stations without having to worry about buying a radio app (ESPN Radio for $2.99).
Go Deutschland!
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I do love flash, but weren't you able to just use an app like aonlineradio? Just find the url and it streams most online radio stations for you.
who wants to go through that step? I'm thrilled that flash lets me listen to This American Life without paying a premium for older content.
tanman1975 said:
who wants to go through that step? I'm thrilled that flash lets me listen to This American Life without paying a premium for older content.
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well I assume the battery savings would be significant. I know streaming the soccer game isn't doing me any favours.
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well I assume the battery savings would be significant. I know streaming the soccer game isn't doing me any favours.
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Well, if you set the flash to run only run when requested it isnt that bad. Plus i had it plugged in, which mitigates the battery drain. Strange that the phone consumes faster than it can charge..
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Well, if you set the flash to run only run when requested it isnt that bad. Plus i had it plugged in, which mitigates the battery drain. Strange that the phone consumes faster than it can charge..
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The whole point is running flash to get the audio stream. What he meant is that streaming through one of the market apps will take a LOT less power than streaming through a flash page. If you turned off the flash plugin you couldn't stream the audio in the first place.
And it must be using a lot of power if your charger can't keep up.
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Well, if you set the flash to run only run when requested it isnt that bad. Plus i had it plugged in, which mitigates the battery drain. Strange that the phone consumes faster than it can charge..
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Are you charging via computer usb? If so, that is likely your issue. It is a slow charge and cannot keep up.
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The whole point is running flash to get the audio stream. What he meant is that streaming through one of the market apps will take a LOT less power than streaming through a flash page. If you turned off the flash plugin you couldn't stream the audio in the first place.
And it must be using a lot of power if your charger can't keep up.
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correct
The online problem with listening to audio via flash is:
you can't turn the screen off
you must have the web window always in focus
so it can become a large battery drain, compared to an app which would run in the background.
artesea said:
The online problem with listening to audio via flash is:
you can't turn the screen off
you must have the web window always in focus
so it can become a large battery drain, compared to an app which would run in the background.
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Ding! I'm hoping someone will eventually implement a workaround because there are many WMA streams I'd like to access online. Streaming audio apps don't work because none of them have apparently licensed the WMA codec.
I've been watching World Cup games on my phone using the flash video player on http://www.cbc.ca/sports/ here in Canada. It plays full screen and works amazingly well, even over 3G! I'm now a flash believer.
I like having the flash plugin for certain situations, but it's bugging me that probably 9/10 times I want to see some flash content it's actually a youtube video that plays much better using the youtube app or m.youtube.com. But embedded videos still require me to load the plugin then click on them twice to get to the page (assuming you have plugins set to 'on demand').
Is there any chance of someone creating a way to filter those embedded videos? Will youtube figure it out at some point and just serve up the mobile html5 version? Given that it's all google, I'd hope they could do that.
ecapox said:
I'd like to take a moment to thank Froyo, Adobe, and Google for allowing me the possibility to have Adobe Flash if i so please. I can now listen to MANY live radio stations without having to worry about buying a radio app (ESPN Radio for $2.99).
Go Deutschland!
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I agree 100%. There is SO much content that I didn't have access to on my Nexus that thanks to Flash, I now have.
Just for instance there is a Dallas Cowboys Radio Talk Blog that I had to get to a computer if I wanted to listen live, since it uses a Flash player. Now, I can listen ANYWHERE.... LIVE!
I use Flash as "always on", and I love it.
Battery drain? Who cares. It's like complaining that driving a car uses gas.
Flash has changed my entire mobile experience for the better.
Thank you Google, and thank you Adobe!!!!
The best Flash does for me, is using maps in sites (which are completely inaccessible without it, being all Flash-based), and being able to preview music online before buying it on sites that don't have mobile apps made for them. Actually, it does tons more, including navigation in flash-heavy service sites etc, but there are really too many things to mention.
maps are flash based? Which ones? Google maps has been ajax/html from the beginning.
Old MuckenMire said:
Just for instance there is a Dallas Cowboys Radio Talk Blog that I had to get to a computer if I wanted to listen live, since it uses a Flash player. Now, I can listen ANYWHERE.... LIVE!
I use Flash as "always on", and I love it.
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Just to clarify, are you saying that you can listen to this flash radio stream even with the screen off?
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Just to clarify, are you saying that you can listen to this flash radio stream even with the screen off?
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No, the screen dims but does not fully shut off when listening to the stream.
Here is the site:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/dcfanaticradio
If you have a Nexus you can try it for yourself.
Be aware tho that this is the slow time of year. After a big game I can promise that this kind of content is just fantastic while mobile. I used to have to be at a computer for this.
If you are worried about burn in from the screen being on just scroll down the page and fill the screen with a white background, and then the screen will dim significantly and you are good.
EDIT: you actually make a good point tho: we need to be able to put the screen to sleep when streaming .
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Just thought i should let people know that the main things that should be fixed on HD2 Android are:
1.Touch screen does not work always, sometimes lags or have to go to standby to work again.
2.WiFi ,bluetooth and Mobile data network are essential to all devices so its pointless to upload or download a ROM that don't activate .
3.Keypad and LED light are also important but not that much.
4.Sensors must work too(both G-sensor and proximity sensor).
5.Need to use original camera Application because the others dont use full resolution or doesn't have wide-screen.
6.Voice and sound need to be increased because some of the ROMs are very low.
7.Please could someone fix that music plays from music folder only because my music player plays any sound that is on the SD including GPS sounds and application tracks.
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Just thought i should let people know that the main things that should be fixed on HD2 Android are:
1.Touch screen does not work always, sometimes lags or have to go to standby to work again.
2.WiFi ,bluetooth and Mobile data network are essential to all devices so its pointless to upload or download a ROM that don't activate .
3.Keypad and LED light are also important but not that much.
4.Sensors must work too(both G-sensor and proximity sensor).
5.Need to use original camera Application because the others dont use full resolution or doesn't have wide-screen.
6.Voice and sound need to be increased because some of the ROMs are very low.
7.Please could someone fix that music plays from music folder only because my music player plays any sound that is on the SD including GPS sounds and application tracks.
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am with you But the music Player settings Its Default by that it scans the whole Storage card same as Windows Media in Windows Mobile to avoid that u can Create Your Own Playlist then u can select one Folder only which is your music folder
Addons:
1- Battery Drainage
Dukan91 said:
Just thought i should let people know that the main things that should be fixed on HD2 Android are:
1.Touch screen does not work always, sometimes lags or have to go to standby to work again.
2.WiFi ,bluetooth and Mobile data network are essential to all devices so its pointless to upload or download a ROM that don't activate .
3.Keypad and LED light are also important but not that much.
4.Sensors must work too(both G-sensor and proximity sensor).
5.Need to use original camera Application because the others dont use full resolution or doesn't have wide-screen.
6.Voice and sound need to be increased because some of the ROMs are very low.
7.Please could someone fix that music plays from music folder only because my music player plays any sound that is on the SD including GPS sounds and application tracks.
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While I agree with you on these topics I cant help but wonder why you dont have a native android device. I actually still have a g1 that I could use if it was really that big of a deal.
Many people have stated "I want this and I want that to work" And I am sure you mean well but there are many people who do not have the same requirement that you have. I for one have been using android on the hd2 since It could first fully boot even with the bsod.
I say this not to flame you but I think these kinda post show a lack of gratitude at least thats what it looks like to me.
I am sure these guys are working hard to get everything working. I would rather them enjoy their hobby then feel like its a job they do not get paid for.
They have saved me from buying a new phone and I am very grateful for this.
Btw Ubuntu on the hd2 is freaking awesome though its a little hard to type.
I Loaded gimp brought a smile to my face.
Ya i didnt mean to make the guys feel like its something they must do, just trying to help out as much as i can plus i love the progress thats going on !
but just infoming that some stuff need 2 be sorted out before the others , and i could get an Android phone but where i live they dont have teh EVO 4g and i wont get something slow or has a small screen after using the HD2 i feel that a 1 GHZ should be standard to all phones and i love the 4.3 inch display on [email protected] and EVO 4g !
Thnx for the notices guys(Fire & hazard99 )
Oh for sure!
And whats even better is this didnt turn into some flame war. I couldnt possibly give up my Hd2 I think its my favorite device of all time. I started to buy the the samsung galaxy s but the lack of led flash and the screen size made the difference.
Though it is a nice device.
T-mobile has a very piss poor selection when It comes to android phones.
You can check out progress via the log here http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=htc-linux
These are all known bugs and all things that the devs are working on fixing. Keep in mind that they do this as a hobby.
I know everyone wants the best android experiance possible on the HD2 (me included, but thats why i keep my Nexus One) but pateince is a virtue and there are 100's of post pointing out these problems.
The devs know about these issues. There being worked on.
Screen issues? Im running android every day. My screen respondes just fine. Try using the back button. I had ebuddy go funny. It went darker and i couldnt do anything but hit home to get out untikl i hit back and it worked again.
Data works perfect for me. Wifi works. Ive downloaded tons of apps.
Ita pretty usable
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This isn't necessarily a Nexus S problem as it happened on my G1 running Froyo as well... before Froyo though, if I turned off my truck while playing music via bluetooth it would pause the music player (Pandora, Winamp, etc). Ever since going to Froyo though (and now Gingerbread) if I turn off my truck, then my phone will start playing the music through it's speaker.
Is there a way to restore this feature? It can be incredibly annoying when this happens because then I have to unlock my phone, go into said application and pause the audio manually (especially in the winter with having to take your gloves off, unless you use your nose to navigate the phone which I have done before). I am hoping it is some setting somewhere I have just been missing every time I look into it.
No setting I can find. I use tasker to end music player when bluetooth disconnect.
Pause it before you turn the car off. =P
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Pause it before you turn the car off. =P
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That is what I am doing. If you read my post though, you'd know how annoying it is to me having to take off my gloves to unlock the phone then open pandora and hit pause
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No setting I can find. I use tasker to end music player when bluetooth disconnect.
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Thanks. I wish there was a trial to try before you buy. I hate how Google limited refund to 15 minutes after purchase. Some apps you need more than 15 minutes to try out to make sure you are completely satisfied with them.
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That is what I am doing. If you read my post though, you'd know how annoying it is to me having to take off my gloves to unlock the phone then open pandora and hit pause
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I meant from the radio. (I'm assuming your pairing the phone and the stock truck radio?)
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Thanks. I wish there was a trial to try before you buy. I hate how Google limited refund to 15 minutes after purchase. Some apps you need more than 15 minutes to try out to make sure you are completely satisfied with them.
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There's a 7 days trial directly from the dev.
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/faq-ov.html#g3
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I meant from the radio. (I'm assuming your pairing the phone and the stock truck radio?)
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i don't think i can pause pandora from the radio, i can't even goto next song from the radio with pandora. i can however with winamp.
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There's a 7 days trial directly from the dev.
http://tasker.dinglisch.net/faq-ov.html#g3
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thanks! 10char
OK so yesterday I hooked up my tablet to my stereo and pulled up the siriusxm website and was streaming from there. So everytime the screen shutoff so did the stream. I tried the app but I cant get it to work it keeps saying checking for updates. So my question is, is there someway to make the browser continue to stream with the screen off I had to set it to never turn off and it worked great but it does do a number on your battery. Any help would be appreciated.
try with dualweb, maybe.
mine streams from ghosttown with the screen off and docked and closed.
Online streams do this to me, though oddly with upnplay from my own servers, never a problem. Perhaps its a power/bandwidth setting devs put in for smaller devices need to save battery, by default.
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No such problems using TuneIn Radio for Android. Continues to play, regardless of whether I tap the power button to sleep, let the sleep timeout elapse, or close the screen when docked. Also happily wakes up from sleep to play an online stream as an alarm clock.
http://tunein.com/mobile/android/
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OK so yesterday I hooked up my tablet to my stereo and pulled up the siriusxm website and was streaming from there. So everytime the screen shutoff so did the stream. I tried the app but I cant get it to work it keeps saying checking for updates. So my question is, is there someway to make the browser continue to stream with the screen off I had to set it to never turn off and it worked great but it does do a number on your battery. Any help would be appreciated.
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Do you have your WiFi sleep policy set to never?
If you have it set to shutoff with screen off that might be it, not sure.
EDIT: OK I missed that you are accessing XM through the browser, yeah I think when screen goes off or when you're out of the browser
everything shut down.
Wdustin1 said:
OK so yesterday I hooked up my tablet to my stereo and pulled up the siriusxm website and was streaming from there. So everytime the screen shutoff so did the stream. I tried the app but I cant get it to work it keeps saying checking for updates. So my question is, is there someway to make the browser continue to stream with the screen off I had to set it to never turn off and it worked great but it does do a number on your battery. Any help would be appreciated.
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I have the same issues with SIRIUS Their app fails.
Works great on my phone but wont work on my tablet.
Brandon
Yes everytime that I have to minimize the browser for some reason the stream stops is there some kinda of work around for this. I just want to start the stream and then shut off the screen and have it still run. Yes my wifi policy is set to never
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Wdustin1 said:
Yes everytime that I have to minimize the browser for some reason the stream stops is there some kinda of work around for this. I just want to start the stream and then shut off the screen and have it still run. Yes my wifi policy is set to never
Sent from my captivate BLAZING on firefly 3.0
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I beleive the issue is with SIRIUS. Their app is not made for honeycomb and does not work.
If you do the webpage honeycomb is set to turn off the inactive page. I noticed that I even lose audio if I switch to a different tabed browser or application. To me it appears to be a honeycomb featured mixed with a sirius application bug.
Thank God I can listen NP on my EVO 3d
Brandon
The application itself must tell the device not to sleep.
Have you ever noticed how when you install certain apps one of the permissions required is "Keep your Device Awake"?
This is why some apps keep playing when you turn the screen off. The browser however, cannot keep your Asus awake and when you turn the stream off it will stop.
sassafras
I had this issue with Music, and now have it with Music Beta.
When listening to a song, when the screen timeout engages, the player will never go to the next song (but it will at least finish the current song). Probably a feature, but would be extremely nice to override that.
Changing the Wifi settings didn't seem to fix it; only removing the screen timeout did.
On the same topic, I guess, but is there a way to keep the Youtube app running in the background while using another app?
I guess another thing would be if theres a way to keep flash videos running while browsing another tab in a browser, but Opera and the stock browser don't allow that.
Well I use my phone as my music player and I listen to like a good two hours meaning. The wake lock is on for two hours meaning the battery drains so fast, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
holomusic player seems to do this but unfortunately the developer has passed away and I can't get hold of the latest apk anywhere, I'd appreciate it if anyone had it
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Well I use my phone as my music player and I listen to like a good two hours meaning. The wake lock is on for two hours meaning the battery drains so fast, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
holomusic player seems to do this but unfortunately the developer has passed away and I can't get hold of the latest apk anywhere, I'd appreciate it if anyone had it
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This is why I have a wireless charger so I can listen to music for a couple hours every day at the gym. I just keep it on the charger when I'm not using it.
am trying hard to avoid that at the moment lol if theres nothing that really can be done i may just get a dedicated mp3 player. the media server is cause 2 hours of wakelock yet the music player only has an 1 hour wakelock so there maybe a different issue, but ill see
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am trying hard to avoid that at the moment lol if theres nothing that really can be done i may just get a dedicated mp3 player. the media server is cause 2 hours of wakelock yet the music player only has an 1 hour wakelock so there maybe a different issue, but ill see
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mediaserver will always be higher as its used for all media not just music, i.e videos, notification sounds, etc. Basically anything that plays any type of media will call it up.
m4r0v3r said:
Well I use my phone as my music player and I listen to like a good two hours meaning. The wake lock is on for two hours meaning the battery drains so fast, is there anything I can do to prevent this?
holomusic player seems to do this but unfortunately the developer has passed away and I can't get hold of the latest apk anywhere, I'd appreciate it if anyone had it
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http://www.plusmobiles.com/holo-pad-and-holo-music-for-android-you-can-download-it-from-here.html
Not sure if that is the latest one or not. GL
Cheers kpkimmy that's the one. This will replace stock and see how battery life changes from there
I use bluetooth when listening to music in my car. Pandora is my music player of choice. The problem is that when Pandora plays over bluetooth, it skips. It's like the song pauses for a second and then comes back. This only happens on Pandora. Stock Music App, Apallo, Now Playing, Even Netflix all play fine over bluetooth. This SAME issue existed on my Galaxy S3 as well...
What I've tried:
Disabling Wifi
Disabling GPS
Rebooting (Just in case)
Wiped Device
I'm on the stock rooted rom. Any ideas?
TopHATTwaffle said:
I use bluetooth when listening to music in my car. Pandora is my music player of choice. The problem is that when Pandora plays over bluetooth, it skips. It's like the song pauses for a second and then comes back. This only happens on Pandora. Stock Music App, Apallo, Now Playing, Even Netflix all play fine over bluetooth. This SAME issue existed on my Galaxy S3 as well...
What I've tried:
Disabling Wifi
Disabling GPS
Rebooting (Just in case)
Wiped Device
I'm on the stock rooted rom. Any ideas?
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Ive had this issue on JB on all my android devices. I am running a 4.4 rom on my n7 2013 and it streams perfectly. BT stuttering has been a known issue since JB came out. It happens for me personally no matter what the media app is. Its the a2dp. Not much you can do about it user wise.
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Ive had this issue on JB on all my android devices. I am running a 4.4 rom on my n7 2013 and it streams perfectly. BT stuttering has been a known issue since JB came out. It happens for me personally no matter what the media app is. Its the a2dp. Not much you can do about it user wise.
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I had no issues with Pandora stuttering on my Note 2. I have no issues with podcasts (Pocketcasts app) stuttering on my Note 3, nor any issues with stock music player stuttering on Note 3. I DO have stuttering with Pandora on my Note 3.
So, no, it's not just a2dp, it's Pandora. And it would seem that it's Pandora on 4.3, while Pandora on 4.1 works fine. It's possible the track I tried in stock music player wasn't high enough bitrate (Pandora One set to HQ 192kbit) and that it's really an issue with high bitrate over a2dp on 4.3. I'll have to check with a few higher quality mp3s.
I noticed this first after flashing Beans' rom and running from that. I just restored to stock and will see if that fixes the situation, though from the original poster it sounds like this won't go away on stock.
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I had no issues with Pandora stuttering on my Note 2. I have no issues with podcasts (Pocketcasts app) stuttering on my Note 3, nor any issues with stock music player stuttering on Note 3. I DO have stuttering with Pandora on my Note 3.
So, no, it's not just a2dp, it's Pandora. And it would seem that it's Pandora on 4.3, while Pandora on 4.2 works fine. It's possible the track I tried in stock music player wasn't high enough bitrate (Pandora One set to HQ 192kbit) and that it's really an issue with high bitrate over a2dp on 4.3. I'll have to check with a few higher quality mp3s.
I noticed this first after flashing Beans' rom and running from that. I just restored to stock and will see if that fixes the situation, though from the original poster it sounds like this won't go away on stock.
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It IS a2dp. Maybe be specific to certain apps from but it IS a2dp. 4.3 didnt fix it...4.3.1 on aosp didnt fix it. You will get worse skipping if connected to wifi AND bluetooth simultaneously. It does it worse when the screen is off. To prove for you...the only way to get it to stop on my tablet was to go to developer settings and check stay awake on charger. Then plug into charger....stream all you want and it wont skip much at all...on pandora or any other app. All of my JB devices did it. People would always chime in saying "this doesnt happen to me...no probs here". Id be willing to bet money it DID happen and they didnt use streaming enough to experience it.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633
4.4 fixed it btw.
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It IS a2dp. Maybe be specific to certain apps from but it IS a2dp. 4.3 didnt fix it...4.3.1 on aosp didnt fix it. You will get worse skipping if connected to wifi AND bluetooth simultaneously. It does it worse when the screen is off. To prove for you...the only way to get it to stop on my tablet was to go to developer settings and check stay awake on charger. Then plug into charger....stream all you want and it wont skip much at all...on pandora or any other app. All of my JB devices did it. People would always chime in saying "this doesnt happen to me...no probs here". Id be willing to bet money it DID happen and they didnt use streaming enough to experience it.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=39633
4.4 fixed it btw.
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It's not just a2dp that is broken for everything. It may have to do with bitrate, I haven't tested enough. Some things, like streaming 128kbps mp3 or podcasts (96-128kb mp3) work fine with no stuttering. 192kbps Pandora One streaming hitches for a fraction of a second every minute or two.
In any case, since you found that keeping full power on fixed it, it's likely there's some other workaround possible to keep pandora at a priority that prevents whatever sleep case might be the cause. Have to dig around more.
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It's not just a2dp that is broken for everything. It may have to do with bitrate, I haven't tested enough. Some things, like streaming 128kbps mp3 or podcasts (96-128kb mp3) work fine with no stuttering. 192kbps Pandora One streaming hitches for a fraction of a second every minute or two.
In any case, since you found that keeping full power on fixed it, it's likely there's some other workaround possible to keep pandora at a priority that prevents whatever sleep case might be the cause. Have to dig around more.
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dig then. I dug forever. This ate at me so much that I nearly left android altogether. 3 releases and it stuttered on my Gnex...my nexus 7...my Galaxy S4 and now my note 3. None of the updates have fixed it. Its not just pandora for me...it does the same for Play music...and was doing it for netflix too. In my cars headunit...LG soundbar...Jawbone big jambox...all of them. All my android devices running JB did it. it was introduced with JB. 4.0.4 didnt do it. JB 4.1...bam....4.1.2...persist....4.2...4.2.1...4.2.2...4.3...4.3.1...all did the same accross all my devices.
I use a2dp streaming a LOT, so you can imaging how irritating it is to have all of your devices stutter while streaming.
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dig then. I dug forever. This ate at me so much that I nearly left android altogether. 3 releases and it stuttered on my Gnex...my nexus 7...my Galaxy S4 and now my note 3. None of the updates have fixed it. Its not just pandora for me...it does the same for Play music...and was doing it for netflix too. In my cars headunit...LG soundbar...Jawbone big jambox...all of them. All my android devices running JB did it. it was introduced with JB. 4.0.4 didnt do it. JB 4.1...bam....4.1.2...persist....4.2...4.2.1...4.2.2...4.3...4.3.1...all did the same accross all my devices.
I use a2dp streaming a LOT, so you can imaging how irritating it is to have all of your devices stutter while streaming.
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I using streaming a few hours a day as well. Fortunately only Pandora is having issues right now, and that was on a custom rom. Haven't tried since reverting. And I never had any stuttering issues at all on 4.1.x on Note 2.
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I using streaming a few hours a day as well. Fortunately only Pandora is having issues right now, and that was on a custom rom. Haven't tried since reverting. And I never had any stuttering issues at all on 4.1.x on Note 2.
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well lucky you. I have. Actually I should edit my above statement. It was introduced in 4.2.x....4.1 had no issues. Im sure it will be introduced on your note 2 whenever sammy finally gets around to updating their TW to 4.3 (which will be around the time 4.4 has rolled out to most devices lol)
Ive had the same problem that over 1k people have posted as a bug in code.google.com link above. (which I encourage you to read!)
I personally believe it was introduced with BLE.
The question was asked...I gave documentation of the problem from the source (google) and people still refuse to accept the answer. lol what can ya do. c'est la vie
I get stuttering in Pandora while wired to my car, not BT. I did not have this issue on the Note 2 running any Android version (4.1-4.3). Not sure it's a BT issue at all.
akellar said:
I get stuttering in Pandora while wired to my car, not BT. I did not have this issue on the Note 2 running any Android version (4.1-4.3). Not sure it's a BT issue at all.
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lol...key words..."not sure"
refer to source above
Skipping on pandora through headjack can be caused by data handoff...poor signal...all while high quality streaming is checked in settings.
It happens through my headphones occasionally in my gym...because signal doesnt penetrate the building well.
so what do we do now? Continue the..
1 I get stuttering
2. well I dont
3. Its still stuttering
4. mines not
5. every few seconds to minutes I get a stutter/blip in music
6. doesnt happen to me on xx phone
7 its happened to me on all my JB devices since 4.2...and not 4.1...nor 4.4...and theres a source bug site with thousands of complaints..same complaint....
8. My phone never did it....therefore it doesnt exist.
and........
yakitori2 said:
lol...key words..."not sure"
refer to source above
Skipping on pandora through headjack can be caused by data handoff...poor signal...all while high quality streaming is checked in settings.
It happens through my headphones occasionally in my gym...because signal doesnt penetrate the building well.
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Apparently reading isn't your strong suit but you are quick to attack. Signal is fine, full LTE. High quality isn't turned on. This isn't my first rodeo, let's relax with the know-it-all attitude.
akellar said:
Apparently reading isn't your strong suit but you are quick to attack. Signal is fine, full LTE. High quality isn't turned on. This isn't my first rodeo, let's relax with the know-it-all attitude.
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Thanks for ur contribution
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Dont be a hypocrit. I posted source site (googles bug report site above) and you have still not taken the time to read it. So dont start with the "reading isnt my strongsuit" crap when youve input 1 sentence lines. How hard is it to read a sentence? You said you dont have a problem with BT on your note 2. And that your phone does this thorugh the headphone jack.
What does that have to do with BT streaming.....which (yeah I double checked) is the title of the thread.
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I said nothing of the Note 2 working with BT. My post was in regards to getting skipping in Pandora with or without BT. Since you apparently have all the answers though I'll just sit back and wait for you to provide the solution.
I fixed my skipping problem in Pandora. I first noticed the issue running Beans' ROM. I have a Pandora One subscription - I was having a fraction of a second hitch/skip/hiccup in my audio every minute or two, streaming to a Pioneer DNX9990HD head unit. I switched back to stock rom and the problem went away. After a bunch of digging, I found a post suggesting it may be the ad blocking hosts file at fault that shipped with the ROM. Fortunately, that was the case. Beans' ROM installs with a giant hosts file blocking tons of ad sites. Even though I have a Pandora subscription, some ad check / subscription check / feed query that was happening and failing was causing the hiccup. I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
Yes yakitori2, android 4.3, A2DP streaming all day long, no issues whatsoever. Like I suspected, it had nothing to do with the A2DP stack.
You should also read this lovely news piece - http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...2dp-audio-streaming-fix-for-the-next-release/ , where Google announced in January that the next release of 4.2 (loooong ago, which would be older than our 4.3) would include a fix for the A2DP problems.
Sorry you're still having problems. You should investigate more, very likely some other issue / software on your phone is causing the problem.
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I fixed my skipping problem in Pandora. I first noticed the issue running Beans' ROM. I have a Pandora One subscription - I was having a fraction of a second hitch/skip/hiccup in my audio every minute or two, streaming to a Pioneer DNX9990HD head unit. I switched back to stock rom and the problem went away. After a bunch of digging, I found a post suggesting it may be the ad blocking hosts file at fault that shipped with the ROM. Fortunately, that was the case. Beans' ROM installs with a giant hosts file blocking tons of ad sites. Even though I have a Pandora subscription, some ad check / subscription check / feed query that was happening and failing was causing the hiccup. I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
Yes yakitori2, android 4.3, A2DP streaming all day long, no issues whatsoever. Like I suspected, it had nothing to do with the A2DP stack.
You should also read this lovely news piece - http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...2dp-audio-streaming-fix-for-the-next-release/ , where Google announced in January that the next release of 4.2 (loooong ago, which would be older than our 4.3) would include a fix for the A2DP problems.
Sorry you're still having problems. You should investigate more, very likely some other issue / software on your phone is causing the problem.
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Yeah..I knew 4.3 was supposed to fix the a2dp bug, but it didnt on my devices. However...they were all running custom roms...and possible had ad hosts as well....I had no idea that would cause anything. Ill would look into it, but Im on 4.4 and dont have any issues at all. so..
It is a2dp + other apps running in the background. Factory reset, install only pandora - no stuttering, install some apps, start them (fill up memory) and try play in pandora - stuttering could be up to 20 times a minute. (using pandora as an example, but it affects any audio players)
Also, the receiver is important too, some receivers handle these micro pauses gracefully to a point that it's barely noticeable, others stop for 1/2 seconds makes it impossible to listen.
To conclude, the stuttering occur mostly when memory is overloaded; and screen off makes it even worse. It looks to me BT gets very low priority on phones.
P.S.
I first noticed this issue on Note 2 running stock 4.1.2
akellar said:
I get stuttering in Pandora while wired to my car, not BT. I did not have this issue on the Note 2 running any Android version (4.1-4.3). Not sure it's a BT issue at all.
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Same here! My Note 2 never skipped streaming Pandora over BT on any Android version.
I get it in both poweramp and Google music. I think someone once said it was cause of being rooted and the app doing some kind of validation check while playing. I forget how he said he stopped it. Maybe I'll try rootcloak module from xposed tonight on the way in with the music apps set in root cloak and see if they don't skip. Rootcloak hides root from whatever apps you tell it to.
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bigillz said:
I fixed my skipping problem in Pandora. I first noticed the issue running Beans' ROM. I have a Pandora One subscription - I was having a fraction of a second hitch/skip/hiccup in my audio every minute or two, streaming to a Pioneer DNX9990HD head unit. I switched back to stock rom and the problem went away. After a bunch of digging, I found a post suggesting it may be the ad blocking hosts file at fault that shipped with the ROM. Fortunately, that was the case. Beans' ROM installs with a giant hosts file blocking tons of ad sites. Even though I have a Pandora subscription, some ad check / subscription check / feed query that was happening and failing was causing the hiccup. I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
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THANK YOU!!!! This solved my Note 3 problems! I got a Pandora One subscription and noticed every time the screen went off the music would stutter. The quality of the music seemed a little nutsy... I could stream Google music and other music without a problem all day. But Pandora, no matter WHAT I did, it would stutter.
I did what you said above (running CleanRom) - and restored the host file.... BAM I'm playing with the screen off with high quality.
Thanks!
bigillz said:
I also felt like the audio quality wasn't the HQ setting I had it on (192kbps) - I can't say for sure this was the case, but it sounded less crisp than normal. It's possible there was a background subscription check occurring and when it failed it was not using the HQ subscription audio quality. Now that I've reverted to a stock hosts file, the hiccup is gone and audio quality sounds perfect.
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glad to hear the 64kbps sounds "perfect" to you. wonder what the hell you were getting before?
"Audio Quality
Pandora on the Web plays 64k AAC+ for free listeners and 192kbps for Pandora One subscribers. All in-home devices play 128kbps audio, and mobile devices receive a variety of different rates depending on the capability of the device and the network they are on, but never more than 64k AAC+."
http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/90985-audio-quality
hope you understand that pandora one plays at 64k on android
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BigMcGuire said:
THANK YOU!!!! This solved my Note 3 problems! I got a Pandora One subscription and noticed every time the screen went off the music would stutter. The quality of the music seemed a little nutsy... I could stream Google music and other music without a problem all day. But Pandora, no matter WHAT I did, it would stutter.
I did what you said above (running CleanRom) - and restored the host file.... BAM I'm playing with the screen off with high quality.
Thanks!
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64k is now high quality you say?
sorry, not meaning to be a ****, but just wonder if there's a way to hack this stupid app to get anything higher than 64k on android with my pandora one subscription (cause stock app only does 64, but pandora will do 192 with the desktop user agent in Dolphin browser).