Difference between phone idle and standby? - XPERIA X10 General

I see those two words on the bettry useage in settings.
Could anyone please tell me the difference? To me i think they are.same...
Thanks!
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seems like no one knows the answer =(

The wording makes it sound like the connection to the cell network in on standby. Kind of like Wifi powersaving where it goes down to low powerstate when there's no activity.

ddewbofh said:
The wording makes it sound like the connection to the cell network in on standby. Kind of like Wifi powersaving where it goes down to low powerstate when there's no activity.
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no activity = idle, right? =\

stevencxr said:
no activity = idle, right? =\
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Not quite. Idle means "not doing anything" while standby is more "shutting down temporarily". Even though it's not shutdown it's entered a low-power mode where it just uses enough power to keep going while it waits for activity.
It's like the difference between leaving the computer running and not doing anything or suspending it.

Forgive me if this is OT, but is there a way or any s/w that will tell us about the sleep/wake status of the phone..
It should be easier to co-relate the standby/idle values using them.

if you click on each line in battery usage
i.e- click on cell standy by...it will tell you what it means.
hence by doing so the x10 tells you:
Cell Standby - battery used by cell radio
Phone Idle - battery used when phone is idle

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See deep sleep?
An idle phone should be spending most of the time in this state.
If so, you are fine. All is well.
If not open Badass.
Here click on the bottom line which shows app usage.
Here is what you see. Kernel is at the top for me as there are no rogue apps.
If your device is not going into deep sleep and kernel is the one taking most CPU, it can be ram issue
NOTE : THIS method is android generic. Not specific to note.
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I had Facebook show up under kernal because it was accessing my GPS. I use better battery stats which offers a really good way to show you what is using your battery. badass didn't help in that case, it only showed that the kernal was using the battery because GPS falls under it. Better battery stats showed me it was the GPS and then it also showed me that my router wouldn't let me phone sleep, so a static IP fixed it.
Badass is nice, but it's very generic when it comes to android specific functions that are being called upon. It's only good to show apps that are using the processor, not the functions or processes that the apps are calling up if they do so.
Regardless, thanks for the how to guide.
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[Q] can someone explain to me about battery info?

Hi guys, I never really understood the meaning of those hours when i click on my battery status. On the pic shown, it says: 1H 10m 29s on battery. Can someone explain to me what that means? It seems very low to me, and i just got my phone 2 days ago. It is the octa-core version i9500.
I also see that media takes up most of the battery, and I dont know what that is.
Plz explain?
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It just means your phone is for 1H10M29S unplugged from the power plug :fingers-crossed:
If you click on media you can see which apps are contained in media and stressing your battery.
having wifi on, and using my phone for normal usage and its allready 77% in just 1 hour... I hope the battery does improve as what some people say if you have a new device.
In 3 hours i have a loss of 7% while using Whatsapp and Instagram, 3G is activated.
Did you activate auto. Sync (Google, Facebook, Dropbox, Samsung stuff), Gestures, AirView and so on permanently? If so, please switch them off, this will help for a longer battery runtime (only if you dont need them all the time).
How a about the display brightness? automatic oder manual setting?
#offtopic What is that font & needed to root to change it?
#ontopic The time will not reset after you plug it in for a short time.

Severe battery drain

Why is my battery being drained so much in idle?
Android Battery Monitor:
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Better Battery Stats
Or you could do a Google search. Why do we need to spoon feed you ? Millions before you have reported battery drain issues.
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Go into WiFi, press the menu button, select advanced, turn off SCANNING ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
Dejan Sathanas said:
Or you could do a Google search. Why do we need to spoon feed you ? Millions before you have reported battery drain issues.
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What makes you think I haven't already? As you correctly said, there are "millions before you" that have reported these issues, all with various different causes, some resolved, mostly not.
I was wondering if the expert eyes of this community could spot any obvious causes.
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Go into WiFi, press the menu button, select advanced, turn off SCANNING ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
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Thanks. Based on my understanding, It's not WiFi that's draining all the power. I've always have WiFi Scanning Always Available, and the power drain doesn't finish the entire battery overnight.
Also, even with SCANNING ALWAYS AVAILABLE enabled, the Awake Percentage is normally 25% - 30% not 75%.
It's something else.
And before anyone asks, I've also tried disabling Location Services.
I'd try the WiFi for a day or 2 just to see if it helps. I recalled having the same battery drain issue when I first got the device. After turning it off it has helped a lot. Now it could simply be a bad app that you may have downloaded. Hope you figure it out

Analyzing BetterBatteryStats wakelock

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So does that indicate that Kik is keeping my phone awake most of the time ? Or what...[emoji53]
Thanks in advance[emoji4]
I'm pretty sure the alarms are events (such as a kik message) made by kik to wake your phone. If you receive a lot of kik messages, that would explain the excessive alarms.
The main part you want to be focusing on in BBS is the 'kernel wakelocks' and 'partial wakelocks' to determine if/what anything is preventing your device from deep sleep.
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blakstar said:
So does that indicate that Kik is keeping my phone awake most of the time ? Or what..
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Clearly Kik is keeping your phone from sleeping a large number of times. That may not necessarily have a significant impact on your battery. You'd need to know the type and duration of wakelocks.. or at least a metric on how much battery that app uses. You could try disabling the app and see how much longer your battery lasts for a better idea. If you do that, try to minimize the number of variables that change.
Your delta change, i.e. using 11% battery per hour isn't attrocious. But that is also highly variable depending on your configuration. Much of my light usage averages about 7% /hr. But if I am doing something processor intensive e.g. transcoding, it can approach 20%.
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Need to replace JuiceDefender

I already have Greenify to keep apps under control.
Running CM12.1 on Lollipop. Juicedefender's mobile data feature is totally broken. I loved having that as it A) kept my data usage low, and B) really did a superb job on battery saving.
Is there any other app that controls the radios automatically? That is what I really need!
Thanks!
Madnapali said:
I already have Greenify to keep apps under control.
Running CM12.1 on Lollipop. Juicedefender's mobile data feature is totally broken. I loved having that as it A) kept my data usage low, and B) really did a superb job on battery saving.
Is there any other app that controls the radios automatically? That is what I really need!
Thanks!
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DS (Deep Sleep) Battery Saver worked for me in the past... I just leave data off 90% of the time anymore as I'm usually connected to WiFi.
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bilgerryan said:
DS (Deep Sleep) Battery Saver worked for me in the past... I just leave data off 90% of the time anymore as I'm usually connected to WiFi.
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Thanks, I'll look into that. I thought about manually controlling the LTE, but I know I would forget to turn it back on. Which would be bad since I mostly use web apps for messaging lol.

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