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Going to install Fresh 3.2.0.0

Hi all,
I'm going to install fresh's 3.2.0.0 for my EVO. I'm wondering if someone can confirm the steps below:
(currently rooted 2.1)
Backup via titanium
Nandroid Backup
Clear Cache(s)
Add Fresh3.2.0.0.zip from root of SD Card
download Titanium and reload my backup
I've done this with CM and it works great, but I don't understand the signed/unsigned portion and want to make sure I understand the steps for this ROM.
Thanks in advance

That's just about the gist of it, only thing you didn't specify is you will want to be sure and wipe data along with cache and dalvik

cool, thanks for the quick reply!
Any idea how many people experience slow data rates with 3.2.0.0? That's my only concern at this point. Everything else seems legit.

I have been using it for the past two days.great battery life so far.I put it on my wifes phone today and think it is best to reinstall the apps from scratch rather than use titanium.I has some issues with using the backed up data.
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afreed1 said:
I have been using it for the past two days.great battery life so far.I put it on my wifes phone today and think it is best to reinstall the apps from scratch rather than use titanium.I has some issues with using the backed up data.
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I installed it yesterday while at work. This morning I unplugged at 6:30 and by 7:30 I was down to 67%. I immediately restored back to Evio and can't decide if I should try it again or not.

Pao23 said:
I installed it yesterday while at work. This morning I unplugged at 6:30 and by 7:30 I was down to 67%. I immediately restored back to Evio and can't decide if I should try it again or not.
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That's not the rom, it's something on your end. I get an average of 14-20 hours with the 2.2 fresh roms.

wuclan48 said:
That's not the rom, it's something on your end. I get an average of 14-20 hours with the 2.2 fresh roms.
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Thanks for the vote of confidence....all I did was install it. No apps, no tweaking, nothing.
You do know we're talking about Fresh 3.2 right? As in the donation only rom? Not 3.1.0.2 which I get just fine battery life out of.
It's a completely different kernal then the 3.1's. I have no justification for it, all I know is I had nothing on my phone, took a freaking shower and got my kids ready, got in my car and looked down to see the drain.

Pao23 said:
Thanks for the vote of confidence....all I did was install it. No apps, no tweaking, nothing.
You do know we're talking about Fresh 3.2 right? As in the donation only rom? Not 3.1.0.2 which I get just fine battery life out of.
It's a completely different kernal then the 3.1's. I have no justification for it, all I know is I had nothing on my phone, took a freaking shower and got my kids ready, got in my car and looked down to see the drain.
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Ah well, I've never used those kernels. I always use netarchy. So, maybe I'm talking out of my ass but I'd still wager, a rewipe and reinstall might make a difference. I've just never had an issue with his Roms and it would shock me if he fell off like that all of a sudden.

OP, I haven't tried any of flipz's work on the EVO so I can't speak about it from experience.
All I can say is after much consideration I have officially become a fan of cyanogenmod. I do a lot of tweaking to get things the way I like but it's well worth the time and effort.
To anyone who doesn't get great battery life there are ways to identify rogue apps, don't want to derail the thread, but if you are sure you don't have any apps keeping your phone awake 100% of the time, and you're not spending a lot of "time without signal" and you still aren't getting great battery life then please do yourself the favor of using Juice Defender. I was reluctant to jump on the bandwagon but WOW. I consistent get 26+ hours on one charge. It basically DRASTICALLY reduces sleep time battery drain, which gives you more up time usage and lengthens the window of time before you have to recharge, and it does this without impacting performance. I'm sorry this sounds like a commercial for Latedroid but I'm just so amazed I can't help but mention it..

wuclan48 said:
Ah well, I've never used those kernels. I always use netarchy. So, maybe I'm talking out of my ass but I'd still wager, a rewipe and reinstall might make a difference. I've just never had an issue with his Roms and it would shock me if he fell off like that all of a sudden.
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No, and I don't think he fell off either. He and his testers are getting day and a half batteries off the new Kernal. Like I said, I have no explanation, and it was not meant as a reason not to check it out.
I have no idea why, but my phone has seemed to be a quick battery drainer no matter what since the beginning. Should I be blaming my 002 build? Maybe.

Pao23 said:
I have no idea why, but my phone has seemed to be a quick battery drainer no matter what since the beginning. Should I be blaming my 002 build? Maybe.
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Mine too, but i use it heavily... Leaving IM and such running etc.... But heres the thing, you should AT LEAST be able to get a very very good battery life when you are NOT using it.
If you can't charge your phone the night before, leave it unplugged overnight, and still have 85-95% in the morning, something is busted and you need to uber-wipe...or start running logs and figure out what is doing it....Make sure you have the latest recovery agent too, the earlier ones don't seem to be wiping cache correctly (leading to pri never getting updated, but that's for a different thread).
Really the reason people are excited about this rom/kernel is because battery drains slower even when you ARE using it. Light usage (not having an IM client running all the time) will yield you a solid day on this rom no question.

I got 12 hours of fairly heavy use yesterday and had about 15% left. I was using the latest Fresh 2.1 before with fresh-toast. I found with the 2.1 ROM and kernel, that ATK helped with battery life. I was also using Setcpu and slowing the processor down as the battery ran down.
With 3.2.0.0, I am not using ATK or Setcpu and got good battery life. I did a clean install of all apps and settings when I loaded the ROM. I think that using Titanium caused problems as some of the apps changed and the data that was saved did not play nicely with the updated apps.
I tried a rush job on my wife's phone and used the Titanium backup but ended up reinstalling everything cleanly on her phone because it was acting flaky.
Most of the time, when I have had really fast battery use, it is because some app is acting up and using a lot of CPU cycles or radio. I try to limit the number of apps on the phone to what I actually use to avoid problems.

you should be fine with that, but since it is a new release, i would limit the amount of backups you restore.
Liamfm said:
Hi all,
I'm going to install fresh's 3.2.0.0 for my EVO. I'm wondering if someone can confirm the steps below:
(currently rooted 2.1)
Backup via titanium
Nandroid Backup
Clear Cache(s)
Add Fresh3.2.0.0.zip from root of SD Card
download Titanium and reload my backup
I've done this with CM and it works great, but I don't understand the signed/unsigned portion and want to make sure I understand the steps for this ROM.
Thanks in advance
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OP, let me know if Titanium Backup works for you. It wouldn't work at all for me on Fresh 3.2.0.0. I just went back to CM6.

TheBiles said:
OP, let me know if Titanium Backup works for you. It wouldn't work at all for me on Fresh 3.2.0.0. I just went back to CM6.
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I used titanium after flashing 3.2 and had no problems. I only restore apps though, not data.

3.2 working great here, i'm at 14h 37m today with moderate usage and I leave FB, Twitter, News, Google etc... on to sync and also leave 4g on all day because I seem to be finding 4g all over the place lately. No complaints at all.

I have to say that I'm getting incredible battery life with this new ROM, and Pandora is back to sounding great too.

I had no problems with Titanium BK. I restored apps and data. Facebook was the only one I found that didn't come back. Had to d/l a version from market.
I was fully charged last night. Obviously it's just been sitting overnight, but I have news, FB, Twitter, and 2 mail programs on push. I'm at 50% at 12h 18m since unplugged.
So far great battery life!

Pao23 said:
I installed it yesterday while at work. This morning I unplugged at 6:30 and by 7:30 I was down to 67%. I immediately restored back to Evio and can't decide if I should try it again or not.
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Yes you should. The new kernel on Fresh has been yielding the best battery life out there, period. It's pretty unanimous.

those that have issues with Titanium back up I have posted several times what i do i have personally NEVER had an issue using it.
first if you are moving from an ASOP to sense or vice versus or from a 2.1 to sense and vice versus .. do not restore all system settings. I ussually dont recomend restoring all system settings unless you are restoring to the same rom.
you can normally restore apps + apps data though with out to many problems (the exception is setcpu if you have a kernel with diffrent oc settings).
So what i normally do is d a batch install all apps + data. I go in and uncheck setcpu. Restore all the apps. once that is finished i go to the back up and restore tab and go down and have it restore set cpu with out app data so that it will re-detect. i also have it restore my contacts and sms info from the settings files.
this will get you all your apps backed up contacts known wifi points and sms back with data. this procedure is a little more difficult then simply a single batch restore but it is much faster then reinstalling all apps manually or losing app data for those apps that need it.
sorry to simi hijack the thread but thought i would share my method. again i have not once had an issue using this method i also flash roms a LOT in my opinion.

[TIP] An easy way to reduce battery drain

After a week of research I figured out what was draining my battery. It's a system process related to Google backup. So, here's the tip:
* in Settings->Privacy disable "Backup my data"
* restart the phone - yes, you have to, otherwise the process will continue running
* enjoy!
Before disabling the backup service I used to get no more then 12-14h on a charge. After disabling the service I get 48h.
This service seems to be a problem with Samsung firmware only, it has no effect on battery use on my Desire HD.
I've tested this on stock XWKF3 (2.3.3) and XWKI4 (2.3.4) firmwares. Let me know if it's been effective for you.

I'm having new, really bad, battery drain... been trying to find the culprit for weeks. I just tried it... ill let you know if it helps.
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I have done what you have told..will let you know after sometime.

Mine is now @ 2%. Have disabled the same. (wonder I never noticed earlier!) Will let know of the status after recharge and drain.
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I'm trying the same, report tomorrow
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Interesting find out
Mine has always been off so no idea about the effects
How did you discover this?

I think he did, by turning it off and trying it out

thats one way.
what I was wondering was if he ever used battery monitors etc to find out the culprit. I wanted to ask about the symptoms
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I think he did, by turning it off and trying it out
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Very interesting!! Since i am getting also about 14-18 hours per charge..will try it out and report back!!
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Looking forward to the reports from the users here..

Your battery lasts 4 times longer after disabling this? Do you expect anyone to believe you? Probably not.

Let me try n get back to u aft a few days

I think he got a point. I am at %67 in 7 hours. I use to spend more than %50 in 7 hours, that is, my battery will be depleted in 21 hours instead of 12-14 hours. Not x4 times but almost twice the battery life I had. I am not using any power savings, stopped green power. Wifi on, 3g on. All battery consuming widgets, e-mail check every 30 minures. Facebook in the background and Skype, and Fring, etc...
Thanx for the tip. ıt really works for me

novusspero said:
Interesting find out
Mine has always been off so no idea about the effects
How did you discover this?
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I was monitoring usage with system panel and better battery stats. The backup process was holding a wake lock all the time. Its CPU time is also very high.
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TheSaw said:
Your battery lasts 4 times longer after disabling this? Do you expect anyone to believe you? Probably not.
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i also had my batt lived longer when i freezed wifi sharings, im, market updater, accu weather, radio and gmail which i do not use. Believe it or not, i topped 82 hours. My record. Without these i was getting 24 to 30 hours. Without widgets let me say.
82 hours was on 2.3.3. Now with 2.3.4 it is around 72 hours.
My emails are in push for every hour. I use my phone moderate to high by talking, internet over wifi and edge, and my phone is always on edge not 3G or H.
I believe that there are certain ways to increase your battery life. All you need is to find it how.
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Your battery lasts 4 times longer after disabling this? Do you expect anyone to believe you? Probably not.
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I'm a believer.... been streaming a2dp bluetooth all morning.. battery 86%...

I wonder what you loose if you do it though??? (calendar entries, contacts etc)
Cause I don't wanna loose my contacts which are up in google servers
I ll try it I guess I get around 13-18hrs depending on usage ( Just copy my contacts to sim card first )
EDIT: Ah I think its ok its just for applications... not related to google account or so I believe
Current state 7hrs 18mins and 68% battery remaining will see how it goes

this isn't so new...
this was told already in the battery saver guide here in forums, nothing stunning like that!
shh

tasty_boy said:
this isn't so new...
this was told already in the battery saver guide here in forums, nothing stunning like that!
shh
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Alright, then you might wanna try this NEW tip.
Setting--Display-- back ground effect - Movie from standard..
This will give u another 4-5 hours atleast.

itzankov said:
After a week of research I figured out what was draining my battery. It's a system process related to Google backup. So, here's the tip:
* in Settings->Privacy disable "Backup my data"
* restart the phone - yes, you have to, otherwise the process will continue running
* enjoy!
Before disabling the backup service I used to get no more then 12-14h on a charge. After disabling the service I get 48h.
This service seems to be a problem with Samsung firmware only, it has no effect on battery use on my Desire HD.
I've tested this on stock XWKF3 (2.3.3) and XWKI4 (2.3.4) firmwares. Let me know if it's been effective for you.
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Thanks for the tip,mine has always been checked so i have unchecked it and hopefully battery life will get better.

DHD become faulty??

Hi,
Over the last few weeks I've noticed that my DHD battery is not lasting as long.
It has got seriously worse over the last 10 days. Phone gets switched on about 7.30am and by 4pm is nearly out of juice.
Not really doing anything with the phone - just sitting there on the mobile network with good cell signal. BT is off. Power saving is at maximum levels (no animations etc). It used to last until around 10pm and still have a good 6 or so battery segments left, but now it'll be dead by 6pm.
Nothing recently installed.
Any ideas on what may have changed?

Install currentwidget from the market and set it to log current usage. You will probably find your phone isn't going into deep sleep which is caused by a certain app.
Also see which app is using most battery. This could be an issue. On average 4-10ma on standby is seen.
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I feel your pain buddy, my Dhd used to only last about that amount of time before I rooted, but then again I used to be at it all the time so not exactly the same set of circumstances. Must say I've been pretty happy about my battery life since flashing a new ROM but there's still no way i'm gonna get a full day from it

BTW - forgot to say that when checking whats been using the battery, it says display is the component that be using it the most.
I always hit the sleep / power button when finished with it so it doesn't drain the battery.

affinity121 said:
Install currentwidget from the market and set it to log current usage. You will probably find your phone isn't going into deep sleep which is caused by a certain app.
Also see which app is using most battery. This could be an issue. On average 4-10ma on standby is seen.
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Thanks for the tip - I'll install it and report findings...

ponk2k said:
I feel your pain buddy, my Dhd used to only last about that amount of time before I rooted, but then again I used to be at it all the time so not exactly the same set of circumstances. Must say I've been pretty happy about my battery life since flashing a new ROM but there's still no way i'm gonna get a full day from it
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I've considered rooting it (It's an Orange UK supplied device btw) but I'm scared of breaking it.
I put a ROM on my previous phone so I do have some experiance of installing ROMs so I think it'll be ok if I did it.
Could I put the latest stock HTC DHD ROM out it without any issues and what benifits would I gain?

I've been very pleased with the virtuous unity ROM, it's got sense 3.0 and is super smooth, much faster than stock and better battery life. I couldn't see what benefit you would get from flashing stock room again though but i'm sure you could check it out on the forums if you're unsure.
I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259821
And had no problems rooting whatsoever, just be sensible and backup your data and stuff and you should be fine I'd say. Dead easy process too, it's much less hassle than going through all the different steps that you had to before, just make sure you read through the details and you'll be fine

Is my phone nomral? "Android OS" eats my battery

i have bought my GN last week, once i have got the phone, i immediately update it to KK1 (2.3.6, Hongkong version) via OTA.
i have read many posts on XDA that you guys with 2.3.6 are happy with the battery life, however, it is not the case on me.
as you can see, i have used for 5 hours after unplugging from full-charge, the battery drains from 100% to 65%, during this 5 hours, i had 10min phone call, took 2-3 pictures using build in camera, about 10 whatsapp messages
do you guys think it is reasonable?
what should i do to fix it?

Try flashing SheepRom. Battery life is good for me.
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djowett said:
Try flashing SheepRom. Battery life is good for me.
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These third party ROMs all seem to have one issue or another based on what I've read in the threads. Better to just root it and remove apps and tweak yourself.

I haven't had any trouble with Sheep Rom. I think the problem with some kernels is that the phone is not entering deep sleep. You could try installing setcpu and forcing it to 200Mhz while the screen is off.

5150Joker said:
These third party ROMs all seem to have one issue or another based on what I've read in the threads. Better to just root it and remove apps and tweak yourself.
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Completely agree. Wish I never screwed mine up with Odin. Wish I could get back to my stock ron and just root, but my stock ron can't be found. I'm on the Hong Kong non modified ron now and am as close to being happy as I can get without selling and really buying.
I had problems with the sheep rom not showing apps in the market that worked and showed fine on the stock rom. Yeah yeah yeah, I know there was probably a fix but I'm not willing to spend all my time fixing silly **** that wouldn't be a problem.
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carhigh said:
Completely agree. Wish I never screwed mine up with Odin. Wish I could get back to my stock ron and just root, but my stock ron can't be found. I'm on the Hong Kong non modified ron now and am as close to being happy as I can get without selling and really buying.
I had problems with the sheep rom not showing apps in the market that worked and showed fine on the stock rom. Yeah yeah yeah, I know there was probably a fix but I'm not willing to spend all my time fixing silly **** that wouldn't be a problem.
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I had the same problem with the market this morning, I uninstalled the market updates and the apps would install again.

You should install a official rom and silly **** like that wont happen. BTW my battery sucked on that sheep rom!
Can we be done with the rom battle now?
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Haha yeah, I'm just trying to help the OP. I do have a backup of the stock rom, so I might take your advice and install.
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I recommend starting with installing betterbatterystats to monitor wakelocks. That has identified my android os problems.

thanks guys for your suggestions on roms
i would prefer keep using the stock rom
will try to install betterbatterystats to monitor wakelocks, i will post the result after 1 day usage for our further investigation

Stock
I'm running stock for now, no root, and battery is pretty good. After installing juice defender ultimate, it's actually better than my GS2 battery.

rooted and using titanium to freeze a lot of the junk apps originally installed. Currently at 21 and 33 minutes with about 75% left. I never turn off wifi and have sync going all day. Browsing and a few voice calls. Not bad IMO

Suzook1 said:
rooted and using titanium to freeze a lot of the junk apps originally installed. Currently at 21 and 33 minutes with about 75% left. I never turn off wifi and have sync going all day. Browsing and a few voice calls. Not bad IMO
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What'd you freeze?

Suzook1 said:
rooted and using titanium to freeze a lot of the junk apps originally installed. Currently at 21 and 33 minutes with about 75% left. I never turn off wifi and have sync going all day. Browsing and a few voice calls. Not bad IMO
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I would appreciate if you could you give us a list of those junk apps.

bunch to list (which I will do later) but go into running services. there should be a ton of crap (assuming your on stock) you can freeze. These are mostly stuff I would never use

Charged to 100% and left overnight...the drain was about 2% per hour...anyone can explain to me why..??...screenshots attached..

2% with wifi on is normal i think. just you off wifi then it will go < 1% /hr
You can use phone weaver to auto manage wifi. It will switch off at specific time and will switch on autometicaly at predefine time.
I manage to switch off data connection + wifi at 2am to 9am. and by bettery drain just 4% during this 7 hrs.

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2% with wifi on is normal i think. just you off wifi then it will go < 1% /hr
You can use phone weaver to auto manage wifi. It will switch off at specific time and will switch on autometicaly at predefine time.
I manage to switch off data connection + wifi at 2am to 9am. and by bettery drain just 4% during this 7 hrs.
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Hmm...but what about Android OS battery usage..its always high..??

wat is wrong with this, it showing you how much battery drained by OS. if your phone is workng then smthing shud use it na?
if your use is <1 %/hr, and that use, is with android OS mostly. it means not other than OS draining your battery.
Look to total battery draining/hr, and smthing (like ne service/application) over consuming battery, thn you have to worry for that..

And while using betterbatterystats...i saw in kernel wakelocks that vbus_present and deleted_wake_locks were on for a considerable amount of time...
Do they cause high android os use and drain battery..??
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n00b here, need help with battery issues

Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!

If your saying you left the screen on over night, meaning the phone never went into deep sleep.. If you slept for let's say 6 hours and the phones screen was on for that whole time it's normal that it went down to sixty percent battery.
Maybe I'm understanding your post wrong? Btw I cannot see the picture you posted.
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Turn off mobile data and lower the screen brightness to 0 during the day. Also disable WiFi when you're sleeping. I also make sure all apps are closed using the app manager button on the far right.
Mine's been fine following this logic.

Oh sorry, I should meant sleeping overnight, whilst I slept cosily in my bed.
I'll reattach the image in a second

Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.

atw1927 said:
Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
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lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?

Crisisx1 said:
lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
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This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
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joshnichols189 said:
This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
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My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.

atw1927 said:
Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
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Actually No the "Screen" should not always be at the top of the stat list. If you use the phone more than it idles, then yes... but if you are like me, mine says "Phone Idle: 20%" (which is on top) and "Screen" is 4th on the list with 12% (Wi-Fi and Cell standby above it) [this is my personal phone, and I mostly use my work phone. hence the high Idle & standby]
I was having an issue with my phone running out of battery, with very little usage from it. I mean very little, I might make 2 calls from it each day, and respond to an email now and then. I found that an App was preventing my Screen from going into "Deep Sleep" or even "Sleeping" possibly. So I uninstalled all apps (well I only had like 4 additional apps installed), except for 2 that I need (Google Voice & Drive). Powered off the phone, charged it fully, then powered back on. Its been running on the same charge for 24+hrs now and reads 68% battery remaining.
So check the apps you have installed, some use background data, and might be causing problems...

Crisisx1 said:
My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
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And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
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What else would you like to know?

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What else would you like to know?
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A longer battery graph would help a lot. If yuppy want top search XDA there is a free app called better battery stats that will help you diagnose if something is running in the background eating battery or even if your phone I'd properly entering deep sleep.
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Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here

atw1927 said:
Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
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See now it is much easier to see that you actually do have a problem and what it is. You have the wakelock problem as you can see from Better Battery Stats which falls under Android OS on the other screen. It also appears that you have somewhat weak signal which could cause the wakelock to drain battery even more. There's not much you can do about that wake lock, some kernels have patches for it but those have their own issues as well.
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Could I just install any kernel on stock android and be OK with it? As I've said I've no idea what's best for me; just something nice and clean that doesn't have issues like this. I live onsite where I work so my WiFi is pretty much on all the time if that helps in anyway whatsoever
I'm gonna let it run down completely tonight and charge it, but I don't expect it to help much.

joshnichols189 said:
And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
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I never told him to install a kernel. The advice I gave is to do a reset then I asked if he was rooted or running a custom rom or kernel because that might of been the problem.
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Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.

atw1927 said:
Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
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The battery on the n4 seems horrible.
I'm completely stock I just got my phone yesterday, I charged it to 100% now its at 64% battery with only 47 minutes of screen on time.
on the s3 I would be around 83% with 47 minutes of screen on time.
I'm gonna unlock the boot loader and root soon and try Franco kernel I've been reading good things about it.
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The battery life on the stock kernel isn't great because the CPU management isn't optimized well. It ramps up the CPU (frequency, number of active cores...) very easily and keeps it there long, which removes the occasional lag but sucks more battery. Flashing a more battery friendly kernel would definitely help you if that is the root of your battery issues and not a badly coded app.
Franco's kernel is a very popular one, and very battery friendly compared to stock (and that doesn't mean you lose performance). It is the one I'm currently using. Most people report of screen on times of 4 or 5 hours. With not so heavy usage and wifi (not 3g) I can also pass 5 hrs.
To install a kernel you need to unlock your boot loader and install a custom recovery. No need to root, but.. why not since you're at it
You can try different kernels with the stock ROM. You don't necessarily need a custom ROM. Just be careful to read the dev's OP and instructions, and definitely not to flash a kernel for another device.
Also another thing that reduces battery is your mobile data, if there are a lot of programs that sync on the background. You can use a program that turns off your mobile data when your screen is off and switch it back on just for a sync every xx minutes. Juice Defender is such app, though I like to use Tasker for that. If you use Tasker and are interested in that project, ask or send me a pm. It works great.