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Ok, so I was really interested in getting Evo this friday.. but now I decided to wait...
I watched a video of Samsung Galaxy S showing crazy neocore score, smooooth 3d shooting game, and multitouch test compared to HTC phone..
So I really wanna know now how HTC Evo is compared to some devices:
1. How is battery life with regular use (no 4g, no wifi, no gps on, medium brightness, 20-40 mins talk, some txting/gtalk, light web browsing)? Compared to other HTC phones?
Edit: Other thread has some reviews about it, but I still wonder if it's possible to get 14-18 hours with some web browsing and texting/gtalk.
I know Samsung will have much better battery life cuz of sAmoled screen.
2. How is multitouch test using market app compared to Galaxy S video? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg).. yes, I know it's worse on Evo cuz of its double screen, but how bad?
3. How is audio quality (mp3 music) compared to iPod? (I know iPod is not a standard to compare to but at least I'll have an idea). And how loud is speaker (ringers) compared to any other HTC phones?
Since Galaxy S should come to Sprint too sometimes this summer (based on rumors) I'm kinda considering it...
Yes I know Samsung SUCKS for its support.. And I dont like GalaxyS's look and its UI (reminds me of some ugly phone...)
BUT I can deal with the look and just use home replacement, and I dont care about 4G, AS LONG AS its hardware kills EVO (better battery life, screen, PROCESSOR FASTER THAN SNAPDRAGON, GRAPHICS, better audio quality)..
So don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing EVO (I love how it looks) but I just wanna hear your experience/comparison with this phone on those 3 main points.
Thank you all in advance

DiNoise said:
Ok, so I was really interested in getting Evo this friday.. but now I decided to wait...
I watched a video of Samsung Galaxy S showing crazy neocore score, smooooth 3d shooting game, and multitouch test compared to HTC phone..
So I really wanna know now how HTC Evo is compared to some devices:
1. How is battery life with regular use (no 4g, no wifi, no gps on, medium brightness, 20-40 mins talk, some txting/gtalk, light web browsing)? Compared to other HTC phones?
I know Samsung will have much better battery life cuz of sAmoled screen.
2. How is multitouch test using market app compared to Galaxy S video? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg).. yes, I know it's worse on Evo cuz of its double screen, but how bad?
3. How is audio quality (mp3 music) compared to iPod? (I know iPod is not a standard to compare to but at least I'll have an idea). And how loud is speaker (ringers) compared to any other HTC phones?
Since Galaxy S should come to Sprint too sometimes this summer (based on rumors) I'm kinda considering it...
Yes I know Samsung SUCKS for its support.. And I dont like GalaxyS's look and its UI (reminds me of some ugly phone...)
BUT I can deal with the look and just use home replacement, and I dont care about 4G, AS LONG AS its hardware kills EVO (better battery life, screen, PROCESSOR FASTER THAN SNAPDRAGON, GRAPHICS, better audio quality)..
So don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing EVO (I love how it looks) but I just wanna hear your experience/comparison with this phone on those 3 main points.
Thank you all in advance
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First off... Not all HTC phones are created equally...
1. AMOLED is more hype than anything imo... The Nexus one certainly doesn't get that great of battery life. Plus at the end of the day, the display hardly is using any battery according to battery use... You should get a days life of battery w/o any issues if your usage is what you say.
2. That's an old Touch input sensor or whatever. The Evo does not face the same problems...
3. Audio Quality... sounds fine to me. The speakers on it... I don't know. At times it's quiet and other times it's loud I feel. I really haven't been able to narrow down why, but I do have a feeling it's my "custom" notification / ringtones that are the culprit. I feel my Hero is a tad bit louder still though.

I cannot find out why this phone performed so much better than the other phones on neocore?!?!? The specs are the same.
Edit: Never mind, I found out about the hummingbird processor in the galaxy. I still would rather take the EVO as the galaxy,afaik, has no release date or carrier yet.

Can't speak on the Evo specifically since I don't have it yet (I will in a few hours though lol), however I will say that I would definitely take an Evo over the Galaxy S. Yes the Galaxy S has the hummingbird processor which has a faster gpu, but that in my opinion is the one and only thing it has on the EVO. The Galaxy has that ugly ass touchwiz overlay on top of Android. Part of that overlay looks almost exactly like the iphone OS (not to mention the phone itself almost looks exactly like an iphone). I'd much rather have HTC sense than touchwiz any day of the week. Me living in a 4g market (Atlanta) also makes me more prone to purchase the EVO because now I will be able to discontinue using my Clear 4g dongle. Going back to the processing power, truth be told at this point in time I don't think the extra processing power of the Galaxy S really matters. I currently have the Nexus One which also has a 1ghz snapdragon processor (like the EVO) and I have no speed issues. Add to that the fact that Android 2.2 will be released soon and it has JIT enabled, speed really won't be an issue. I'd imagine you'd see the same responsiveness on both the Evo and the Galaxy S. Also don't forget the Galaxy S only has a 5 megapixel camera (compared to the Evo's 8) and a smaller screen than the EVO.
Galaxy S advantages:
faster processor
Galaxy S disadvantages:
smaller screen
5 megapixel camera
touchwiz interface
looks like an iphone knock off (opinion)
lacks 4g
made by Samsung lol

splicitysplat said:
I cannot find out why this phone performed so much better than the other phones on neocore?!?!? The specs are the same.
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The reason is that the gpu processes 90million triangles/sec as opposed to the nexus one's 22million triangles/sec (couldn't find the evo's specs on this)
Source: http://androidandme.com/2010/03/new...bird-chip-to-have-3x-gpu-power-of-snapdragon/

Tenny said:
First off... Not all HTC phones are created equally...
1. AMOLED is more hype than anything imo... The Nexus one certainly doesn't get that great of battery life. Plus at the end of the day, the display hardly is using any battery according to battery use... You should get a days life of battery w/o any issues if your usage is what you say.
2. That's an old Touch input sensor or whatever. The Evo does not face the same problems...
3. Audio Quality... sounds fine to me. The speakers on it... I don't know. At times it's quiet and other times it's loud I feel. I really haven't been able to narrow down why, but I do have a feeling it's my "custom" notification / ringtones that are the culprit. I feel my Hero is a tad bit louder still though.
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Well, Samsung claims their Super AMOLED is better in power consuming and brighter than regular AMOLED.. so I don't know if its really true or just bs.
So, is your EVO performing the same on that multitouch test as Galaxy S on the video?? I know EVO is supposed to have new touch sensors that are really good, but Im not sure how good they are, that's why I asked you guys to compare.
And did you compare audio quality to an iPod? (using same headphones of course) Because I still have a HTC Hero and it's a shame for HTC to come up with these smart phones that cannot even have same audio quality as iPod/iPhone, and I'm not even expecting them to be as good as Sony mp3 players (best audio quality consumer mp3 players on the market so far)
thanks for reply anyway.

mysterioustko said:
Can't speak on the Evo specifically since I don't have it yet (I will in a few hours though lol), however I will say that I would definitely take an Evo over the Galaxy S. Yes the Galaxy S has the hummingbird processor which has a faster gpu, but that in my opinion is the one and only thing it has on the EVO. The Galaxy has that ugly ass touchwiz overlay on top of Android. Part of that overlay looks almost exactly like the iphone OS (not to mention the phone itself almost looks exactly like an iphone). I'd much rather have HTC sense than touchwiz any day of the week. Me living in a 4g market (Atlanta) also makes me more prone to purchase the EVO because now I will be able to discontinue using my Clear 4g dongle. Going back to the processing power, truth be told at this point in time I don't think the extra processing power of the Galaxy S really matters. I currently have the Nexus One which also has a 1ghz snapdragon processor (like the EVO) and I have no speed issues. Add to that the fact that Android 2.2 will be released soon and it has JIT enabled, speed really won't be an issue. I'd imagine you'd see the same responsiveness on both the Evo and the Galaxy S. Also don't forget the Galaxy S only has a 5 megapixel camera (compared to the Evo's 8) and a smaller screen than the EVO.
Galaxy S advantages:
faster processor
Galaxy S disadvantages:
smaller screen
5 megapixel camera
touchwiz interface
looks like an iphone knock off (opinion)
lacks 4g
made by Samsung lol
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Yes, you're right about GalaxyS's advantages (man, I hate that name..),
ALOT faster processor and GPU, and based on reviews pinch to zoom in web browser is smoother than on any Snapdragon phone, and I'm not even talking about 3d gaming..
But also SuperAmoled screen will give you extra battery life, and that would be a big plus for me, and 4inch screen is still big.
TouchWiz?? I dont care, I'm even tired of Sense, I'm using Helix Launcher, LauncherPRO and ADW Launcher..
Megapixels??? I'm a photographer, and if you didnt know Megapixels dont make your picture look better, lens and sensor does, I'm good even with 3mp.
4G?? Unfortunately it's not available yet in my area so I'll be tipping Sprint every month $10 for... hmm... nothing..
YES, it DOES look like APPLE CRAP... unfortunately..
So far this is their flagship phone, so hopefully they will provide all users with good support and be on time with Android updates...

I couldn't get rid of my Samsung Moment (with Amoled screen) fast enough due to the horrendous battery problems with that phone. The build quality well, it just sucked. The top slider flopped around. It felt like a toy compared to Droid.
Good luck whatever you do, I'm heading out now to get my Evo.

Christmas miracle :')

Two days ago operator made me an offer of any smartphone for free, I narrowed it down to the most expensive hehe: Iphone 4, Desire HD or a sgs and don't know which to buy. This is a once time deal I can't wait for dual cores and whatever else comes out next year I need to reach a decision this week.
What should I buy? I have seen and used all OSs . The only thing I like about the ios is the app store, I generally dislike Apple and Idrones.
I'm relatively tech savvy (in the non-douchy kinda way xD
Except some minor annoyances here and there I love android. Can any one give some advice? Thx and ho ho ho

iPhones kinda nice but not as much for the geek in you.
HD Desire ??
SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
Android app store is choke full of goodies and I've found cool stuff my bro can't get on his iphone4

Imo the SGS, the screen is just beautiful and the processor is a monster compared to the Desire HD and iPhone 4 is just not my cup of tea.

SGS will most likely be more optimised after Nexus S is release, I realy think it's already fast and powerfull, and it will only get better!
Camera is amazing and Night mode is franckly pretty amazing, you'd get more than what you can see!
HD Videos is pretty good also!
Sync is all with your GMail account, so pretty simple and straight forward. You can sync your outlook with GMail if needed.
And if you need to access the files on the device, the USB can be mounted so it's pretty fast to transfer things.
Only down I can see on the SGS is the "sometime" flawing GPS, not all the time but can be anoying sometimes :|

Videonut said:
SGS awesome phone. Too bad they're blowing up left right and center.
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Say whaat?

I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.

ed10000 said:
I think you should go for the Desire HD. It's got 768 MB of RAM vs. the 340 MB available (out of a claimed 512 MB) on the SGS. And it's got a bigger screen, almost an equally powerful processor, very snappy, and it's already got 2.3 Gingerbread.
If you need a powerhouse for games, SGS is the way to go though. Nothing matches it's GPU at the moment.
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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator

calexus1182 said:
Say whaat?
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The internal SDCards are crapping out...

hmmm isnt that becouse of the ****ty samsung filesystem and/or bad kernel
and should i be concerned about only 339 ram?

Buy the iPhone 4, sell it for $600-$800 off contract, buy whatever phone you want. Personally I'd says Desire HD simply because Sense is much better than Touchwiz and it has the Sense.com features (free remote wipe, GPS tracking, text through phone through website, etc). However, the battery is kind of weak so I'd recommend a bigger one if you can find one.

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but i hear the battery wont hold me the entire day thats kinda important for me
and how does it have gingerbread ? the nexus s isnt even out yet i assume its just ripped from the emulator
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They ported it from Nexus One to Evo, and Desire HD is basically a variant of Evo

Damm I'm more confused now than when I started...
Iphone: don't really like how it feels in my hand, really small screen, absolutely no customization whatsoever.
good things: apps, no major bugs and better shades of blue lol.
Desire HD: seems to have the worst hardware out of the three (cpu and gpu) piece if crap battery, seems if it falls once is over, ****ty battery and sim cover and imo the camera that sticks out like the evo is really effing ugly
Good things: most ram out of the three, htcsense.com, biggest screen (preferences but I think 4" is perfect)
SGS: plagued by software bugs apparently, random data corruption, no flash, needs most tweaking out of the box
Good things: best screen cpu & gpu, the nexus s is almost the same phone which means better development porting the works(here's hoping) and best battery life
By comparison seems that the sgs wins overall categories

Its easy. If you want the best smartphone the its sgs.
Iphone is not as good many say.
I did have one and i did sell it.
Iphone has more good games. That's the only good with it.
The rest is much better with sgs.
HD phone is not better either.
It has more serious flaw then both sgs and iphone together.
Sgs is a powerhouse and it got the best screen of all phones.
Sure sgs can be laggy out of the box, but that is easy to fix.
So right now there is not a phone that's has anything to compete with.
The sgs will win it all the time.
**Using my own JPU kernel, z4mod, 339MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**

My father has an iphone3g and my uncle has the iphone 4 I jailbreaked it for him honestly I wasn't that impressed with the phone. The only thing I like about it is the apps mainly the games are much more refined than on android phones
Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?

calexus said:
Also why has the sgs only have 340ram ? On every page I looked it says 512. Will that bite us on the ass later I mean the dhd almost has 800 and phones are moving on 1gb .are you telling me the sgs has as much ram as my old ass hero?
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It does use a 512MB chip, but only ~340MB of it is visible after you're booted up. Out of the other ~172MB, there's around 40MB that's unaccounted for (we don't know where its being used) and the rest of it is "reserved" (even when the functions it's reserved for are not in use) for stuff like video playback, 3G calling etc.
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I'd have to say i agree with Product F(RED)
Desire HD is the best phone on the list IMHO. But getting the ipoop and selling on will mean you can get the HD desire and still have some cash in your pocket

sgs is the best (imho!) it's a pain out of the box but that's why we love it so much, let's face it, most of us like tweaking and playing with our phones, it's half the fun. Flashing new roms, installing different lagfixes, uninstalling new roms, uninstalling new lagfixes, whoops I've broken it, nope, it's going again. The sgs is a geeks wet dream and in my experience it is very difficult to fully brick.
So if you want a phone that you are going to have to fiddle with, get the sgs. Jpu seems to have ironed out a lot of problems, I get perfect gps now, although it was pretty good before. I'm actually a little disapointed that jpu works so well, it kinda takes the fun out of it all
If this doesn't appeal to you then get the hd, it's a good phone, screen is not as good and it doesn't feel as fast as my tweaked sgs, but overall it's definitely a winner and you won't be disapointed
The iphone is also a good phone and not to be sniffed at, if you don't mind being spoon fed by apple.

i have to say SGS, because of the most powerful hardware, software is not important, because we can fix that easy , as surprise Samsung also tries there best, i think with JPU Firmware they show that they are willing todo everything, Hardware we can't fix, SGS has currently the fastest CPU + GPU specially the GPU!!!!! is amazing, why do you think Google went with Nexus S , because of Hardware, Speed, Quality, Availability.......
Nexus S and Android 2.3 Gingerbread was made to give game developers the best available Hardware and with Gingerbread many things which will make Game development easier and because of the CPU + GPU, which is almost the same as Iphone 4 has (SGS a little bit better), it will also make porting games from iphone to android pretty easy now.
About HTC Sense i agree it is a nice homescreen, but on the other hand it is a memory, cpu and battery monster! why do you think they have 768MB Memory and if we look at different homescreen replacements (ADW, Laucher Pro, Zeam,.......), then i really don't see the big advantage at all, but thats a taste decission
So for me i have to say i am very happy that i went with the SGS, i really can't understand users who say that the SGS is built cheap, i have the SGS now since the beginning, i don't use a screenprotector, the plastic is thin but it still looks like new also after falling on the floor (shame on me), compared to my previous HTC Units which where loosing color on there great metal casing and not by falling on the floor but because i used a leather case, the signal was often a issue for me (metal), dust was behind the screen after a short time,........
I have to say that the Samsung Hardware is such an improvement compared to HTC that i won't anytime soon look back to any HTC unit even if it would have a killler hardware.
But that are just my 2 cents on it

Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.

Toss3 said:
Go for the iPhone 4 unless you really need flash. It has the best screen of the three(the pentile matrix of the SGS is just horrible) and works correctly out of the box.
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Care to elaborate on this? The iphone does have a gorgeous screen, but to call the sgs screen horrible is a bit like saying that Angelina Jolie is a dog. Sure there are better looking girls out there than her, but would you kick her out of bed? Most definitely not, unless you bat for the other team of coursee, in such a case swap angelina for brad or whom ever floats your boat.

Would jumping to the Sensation be a bad move?

So I do like my Atrix but I have the chance to do a straight trade for a Sensation.
I love Sense and would like a better camera.
Atrix does have 16gb vs the Sensation and its 8gb card, but I hardly have any space used up on mine. Its just photos and apps that are taking space pretty much - maybe 4 songs.
I dont use webtop. I like knowing the Atrix has the HDMI out and for the sensation - it has the option to do it but you need to buy the adapter cable. As much as I like the thought of that feature, I havent even used it yet lol.
I knwo the battery life on the Atrix is obviously better. I would buy a spare battery for the Sensation though and just keep it in my wallet just in case, like I used to do with my Motorola Milestone. The battery isnt very big.
Both have the same resolution and qhd.
The ROM support on the Atrix is lacking, and it looks very populated on the Sensation.
My girlfriend has the Desire which I have ROM'ed for her and its ROM support is very active and up to date for a phone of that age - I can expect the same for the Sensation?
Anything about the Atrix that is worth keeping over the Sensation?
Anything about the Sensation that should warrant the trade to it?
Thanks guys

Tried my friend's Sensation out for a day and he tried my Atrix out for the same day.
The Sensation was slightly laggy, even for such a powerful processor (or was i just used to the smoothness of the Atrix?) camera was awesome and overall the phone is pretty damn good! However, he got it back with a full battery (had to charge it overnight or else it would die on me) whereas when he gave my Atrix back, it was still running on the charge from a day ago, after his heavy use too (albeit, it was nearly dead). If i was you, i'd stay with the Atrix, but at the end of the day, it's up to you.

Only if you don't mind losing battery life...
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Was your friend's Sensation running a custom ROM?
I would run ARHD on it and have Setcpu underclocking when needed as well. That ROM is said to have better battery life.
But as far as battery goes , Like I said I would just buy a spare and keep it with me. I did that with my Milestone and it wasnt much of a hassle.
And as far as the lag goes, there are TONS of animations in Sense, which I love the look of. If I wanted a period of time with no sense and more smooth performance, I would just throw on Go Launcher as my launcher, like I am with the Atrix
Apart from the battery life though, any other reason of sticking to the Atrix?

Wond3r said:
Was your friend's Sensation running a custom ROM?
I would run ARHD on it and have Setcpu underclocking when needed as well. That ROM is said to have better battery life.
But as far as battery goes , Like I said I would just buy a spare and keep it with me. I did that with my Milestone and it wasnt much of a hassle.
And as far as the lag goes, there are TONS of animations in Sense, which I love the look of. If I wanted a period of time with no sense and more smooth performance, I would just throw on Go Launcher as my launcher, like I am with the Atrix
Apart from the battery life though, any other reason of sticking to the Atrix?
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AFAIK it was all stock, not even rooted. We just like to swap our devices every once in a while (done the same with game consoles). I'm not saying it's a bad device though

If your on AT&T your not going to get anything above 3g on the phone most likely will be stuck in Edge. The drop in the phone storage and the battery also not using Tegra 2 CPU which according to some websites and reviews I have seen say that the Qualcomm is about 10-15% slower than the tegra 2.

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If your on AT&T your not going to get anything above 3g on the phone most likely will be stuck in Edge. The drop in the phone storage and the battery also not using Tegra 2 CPU which according to some websites and reviews I have seen say that the Qualcomm is about 10-15% slower than the tegra 2.
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yea i dont see that as a good idea as your buddy who gets the atrix will be the clear winner in that trade!
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double posted, same reply as above, sorry!

I am in Canada, so not on AT&T
How would he be the clear winner?
As far as processor speed..
I'm sure those websites reviewed it as stock though, and not using an optimized ROM.
The Atrix is much faster using a ROM vs stock as well.

We all have difference opinions. Some may love it but some may not. Try testing out at places or with a friend and get the feel for it. Dev here are not very active just yet but in mean time they will.
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I am in Canada, so not on AT&T
How would he be the clear winner?
As far as processor speed..
I'm sure those websites reviewed it as stock though, and not using an optimized ROM.
The Atrix is much faster using a ROM vs stock as well.
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I used to have an atrix and personally.. trading it for a sensation was the best move ever. However, I had to add on a bit of cash
I hate how the atrix recognizes the internal as an "sd card" and my other reasons was because Sense>Motoblur (in my opinion!) and I liked the looks of the sensation more + on top of that, (correct me if I'm wrong) the development in atrix forums seemed to slow down.. and on the other hand, sensations dev is still going strong! I also think that the back cover is 100x better - but, there's also flaws with the sensation cover. Can't say it's perfect
Also everyone complaining about battery life.. my sensation was unplugged 10pm last night, went to bed, woke up with 90% remaining, went to work! Got home it's now 3pm and I'm at 55% (I had a ~30 minute call and lots of texts as well as gmail syncing 2 accounts/facebook/twitter) HOWEVER I'm using a different battery. Look up "Anker". This thing is a beast! Surprisingly, it's lasting very well. I wouldn't say the battery is an issue. With this 55% it will definitely last me until tonight!
Just my two cents! I'm also in canada as well and signal/speed isn't an issue either.

You seem to be defending the sensation a lot as if you want it, its your choice, so just go with whatever you want, everyone has their own opinions.

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You seem to be defending the sensation a lot as if you want it, its your choice, so just go with whatever you want, everyone has their own opinions.
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Well, if he defends it and everyone elses opinions/arguments are better than his, then the atrix will be the clear winner! and agreed with the opinions part!

I am not "defending" the sensation, since I dont even have it; its just that people are saying the Atrix is better but their arguments dont really justify it to the extent of them defending the Atrix lol
Of course we all have different opinions. I think one of the first things I said in the initial post was that I love my Atrix

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I am not "defending" the sensation, since I dont even have it; its just that people are saying the Atrix is better but their arguments dont really justify it to the extent of them defending the Atrix lol
Of course we all have different opinions. I think one of the first things I said in the initial post was that I love my Atrix
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i would stick on the Atrix bandwagon for a little while longer, we're about to get nightlies on CM7 which means all our devs will be able to work on their own individual projects again. the only reason our development slowed down was because ibproud organized most of the Atrix devs into a group to port CM7 for us; now that it's almost done, people will start building their own ROMs and hacks.
it may take a month or two more, but it'll most definitely be worth the wait

Very interesting question.
Here's how I weigh everything up.
Atrix:
- Faster processor (despite being 1Ghz vs 1.2Ghz)
- Better GPU (more effecient, less heat and THD games)
- Much brighter display
- More RAM
- Much better battery
- Better Touchscreen (Sensation has issues)
- No death grip issues
- Webtop and fingerprint scanner
Sensation:
- Better build quality
- Sharper display (RGB stripe vs PenTile)
- Brand recognition
- Better community
- Much better camera
So it's really up to you with what you prioritize.

OMG totally trade for the sensation I heard the next ROM will support quad core.
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So I do like my Atrix but I have the chance to do a straight trade for a Sensation.
I love Sense and would like a better camera.
Atrix does have 16gb vs the Sensation and its 8gb card, but I hardly have any space used up on mine. Its just photos and apps that are taking space pretty much - maybe 4 songs.
I dont use webtop. I like knowing the Atrix has the HDMI out and for the sensation - it has the option to do it but you need to buy the adapter cable. As much as I like the thought of that feature, I havent even used it yet lol.
I knwo the battery life on the Atrix is obviously better. I would buy a spare battery for the Sensation though and just keep it in my wallet just in case, like I used to do with my Motorola Milestone. The battery isnt very big.
Both have the same resolution and qhd.
The ROM support on the Atrix is lacking, and it looks very populated on the Sensation.
My girlfriend has the Desire which I have ROM'ed for her and its ROM support is very active and up to date for a phone of that age - I can expect the same for the Sensation?
Anything about the Atrix that is worth keeping over the Sensation?
Anything about the Sensation that should warrant the trade to it?
Thanks guys
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If i were you i'd look to swap for the sensation XE not the sensation as i believe the atrix to be better than the normal sensation

the2dcour said:
OMG totally trade for the sensation I heard the next ROM will support quad core.
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?? Wtf?

Notorious544d said:
Very interesting question.
Here's how I weigh everything up.
Atrix:
- Faster processor (despite being 1Ghz vs 1.2Ghz)
- Better GPU (more effecient, less heat and THD games)
- Much brighter display
- More RAM
- Much better battery
- Better Touchscreen (Sensation has issues)
- No death grip issues
- Webtop and fingerprint scanner
Sensation:
- Better build quality
- Sharper display (RGB stripe vs PenTile)
- Brand recognition
- Better community
- Much better camera
So it's really up to you with what you prioritize.
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I wouldn't say that the Geforce ULP is betfer than the Adreno 220 GPU. Just look at the benchmark results on this page: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/17 (don't forget the qHD resolution on all Adreno 220 phones either). Also the processor of the Atrix is not faster; it handles flash better because of software reasons, but that 0,2GHz difference is visible in Linpack, so I guess custom ROMs would unleash that power with software optimizations. Also something you left out is the lack of NEON support in the Atrix (no .mkv playback or high profile h.264).
I don't want to say that the Atrix is not a great phone - I had it for a while, but then sold it for an SGSII (great decision) - but the Sensation is just better imo.

Desire HD Vs One X

So, we have had a post comparing the DHD to the One S, now how about to the One X. After all, when the DHD came out it was HTCs flagship, just as the One X is now.
Design:
The One X feels nicer in hand. MUCH nicer. Its very comfortable and light weight to hold in hand. It feels better in hand then the Desire HD.
Although it is lighter, it has just enough heft to feel like a cell phone instead of a remote control.
Win: One X
Build Quality:
I wont take into account all the issues that are popping up in the 1x section (bad screens, bad QA, etc.), and I will only comment on the polycarb vs metal aspect of the two phones here.
The 1X feels solid in hand, no doubt. But when you hold the DHD and then hold the 1X you feel very scared of dropping the phone. The 1X does not provide the same feeling of ruggedness and rigidity that the DHD provides to you.
IMO... the 1X feels better then the Sensation did, but it lacks the reassuring solidity of the DHD.
Is this a bad thing? Yes and No. If you really liked the metal design, you will be disappointed as I was. I SERIOUSLY considered returning the device based on this aspect alone. The DHD just feels like a TANK. When I have that phone in hand I feel invincible, where as the 1X... not so much lol.
Win: DHD
Speed:
The 1X wins this HANDS DOWN. Keep in mind I have the North American version with Dual Core S4. The 1X is an instant upgrade.
I won't even comment anymore on this section because thats how much faster it is compared to the Desire HD.
Win: 1X
Battery:
I have only had the device for a few days now and the battery life has been a vast improvement over the DHD. Will comment back on this later in the day if people are curious.
Win: 1X
Overall:
So... the question everyone has been waiting for: Is the 1X a true successor to the Desire HD? IMO... No.
The 1X is a very mainstream phone. TBH... it feels like it is the successor to the Sensation. It attempts to be thin and light weight, while sacrificing the metallic feel we all love.
Although it is an upgrade in every.single.way, I can not say that it is the successor to the DHD. I feel HTC designed this phone for mainstream love.
Although I haven't had a chance to hold the 1S in hand, I think its worth a shot to see if it feel better.
Final remarks:
This phone - in no way - feels "plasticy" or "cheap". It just does not have the same feel as the DHD. But it also does not have the same heft either, which imo is a good thing.
So should you upgrade? Yes.
Although I felt the Sensation was not a big enough upgrade from the DHD, I can safely say the 1X is. I suggest everyone who is considering it should do so!
That being said, if the metallic unibody is a big deciding factor, hold off. I'm sure HTCs next flagship will have the MAO body.
Will post pics later in the day.

Very informative thank you very much. That being said, I will not be upgrading for at least another 6 months. This phone is still a very decent device and I feel it still has a lot of potential. Obviously HTC feels the same, using the same hardware on their mid-range device as well as giving the DHD a 4.0 update. Not bad for a 18 month old device. This phone still competes with the likes of the iPhone 4 which is the second most used phone, slightly behind the 3gs. Who knows? Once 4.0 comes out with the official drivers we might see a dramatic speed increase.
Another reason I will not be getting the One X is simply because I don't feel as if the quad core processor is being optimized to its full extent. It's new technology and needs more attention. I'm not denying the fact it's faster, I just don't think it is being used to its full potential.

Got to agree. Frankly if you talk about basic functions, what the 1x can do, the DHD can also do.
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andalism said:
Got to agree. Frankly if you talk about basic functions, what the 1x can do, the DHD can also do.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD
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TheChaoticLlama said:
Very informative thank you very much. That being said, I will not be upgrading for at least another 6 months. This phone is still a very decent device and I feel it still has a lot of potential. Obviously HTC feels the same, using the same hardware on their mid-range device as well as giving the DHD a 4.0 update. Not bad for a 18 month old device. This phone still competes with the likes of the iPhone 4 which is the second most used phone, slightly behind the 3gs. Who knows? Once 4.0 comes out with the official drivers we might see a dramatic speed increase.
Another reason I will not be getting the One X is simply because I don't feel as if the quad core processor is being optimized to its full extent. It's new technology and needs more attention. I'm not denying the fact it's faster, I just don't think it is being used to its full potential.
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I agree that the DHD is a capable phone... but I cannot describe how much better the experience is on my XL versus the DHD. Everything the DHD did... this phone does... much better :\
The 1X however wont do anything mind blowingly better. It is essentially a plastic DHD.
TBH... this phone isn't a DHD successor... It's a sensation successor. Once we get a S4Pro device with a MAO body... then THAT will be a successor for the DHD.
A note on Battery Life:
Just came back from work & Battery has 65% charge left. Same usage as my DHD, but DHD would be close to dead by now.

Thanks for that

No worries!
I just retuned my 1X...
It had a warmer display with slightly yellower screens. Refused to exchange my unit so I refunded it.
Very disappointed in HTC for using 2 different panels... I won't buy a new HTC device until HTC stops slacking... What is the point of using 2 different screens?
As a comparison: On my DHD with sense 4.0, the messaging and settings looked white... but on my One X it looked... an off white color. Not yellow, but not bright white... Other then that was very nice.

HTC to Compete with Galaxy Note

"HTC might actually be the star of the Android show this time around though, as we have been told HTC will have a major flagship device hitting Verizon shelves in the fall. It’s said to feature a whopping 5-inch 1080p HD display (a non-PenTile screen), a new chipset that includes a quad-core Krait CPU and an Adreno 320 GPU, HTC Sense 5 and a Scribe pen. Yes, HTC is launching a Galaxy Note competitor."
http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/26/verizons-summer-fall-2012-smartphone-roadmap/
If the Scribe pen is going to be built into the Phone like it is the the S-Pen...this may be worth looking at. I would preffer a 5 inch to a 5.3 inch...that tiny bit may make the difference on making it easier to touch the Symbol switch button on the keyboard...plus a 1080p display on a 5" display!? and I though a 720p display was sweet!
I don't plan on letting my Note for a while yet, but this would be a nice piece of tech to look forward too.

Spartan2x said:
"HTC might actually be the star of the Android show this time around though, as we have been told HTC will have a major flagship device hitting Verizon shelves in the fall. It’s said to feature a whopping 5-inch 1080p HD display (a non-PenTile screen), a new chipset that includes a quad-core Krait CPU and an Adreno 320 GPU, HTC Sense 5 and a Scribe pen. Yes, HTC is launching a Galaxy Note competitor."
http://www.bgr.com/2012/04/26/verizons-summer-fall-2012-smartphone-roadmap/
If the Scribe pen is going to be built into the Phone like it is the the S-Pen...this may be worth looking at. I would preffer a 5 inch to a 5.3 inch...that tiny bit may make the difference on making it easier to touch the Symbol switch button on the keyboard...plus a 1080p display on a 5" display!? and I though a 720p display was sweet!
I don't plan on letting my Note for a while yet, but this would be a nice piece of tech to look forward too.
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emmm if it will be 5 inch lcd screen, then have fun with battery life ;D

Yeah. The power draw will be disgusting. =/
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Looks like an lg vu to me???
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well we will have The Note 2 ... Just watch IFA.....
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Wouldn't be a huge competitor I think, at least for me. The screen would draw massive amounts of power being non-pentile for 5in. Not to mention its also a 1080p screen taking up even more battery for the GPU. So you'd need a huge battery which would make the device heavy and bulky. The krait chip is ok on power consumption, but I still think quad-core, unless there was webtop, is unnecessary. Especially since the a15 dual cores fly and have better power consumption. But then again it's a selling point to some people to have the best of the best. What I want is a Note2 with basically everything the curent has, but the
Exynos 5250 (2.0 dual core cortex a15). I'd like to see an upgraded Mali to go along with it, although they're power as it is anyways. Along with some other small things like LED notification, 12mp camera, and maybe a more accurate stylus (it can be off by 3mm sometimes for me). I would probably buy it quickly then.

Nah, I don't want LCD TFT screen after Super Amoled. Why don't use it?! Even Motorola now use Super Amoled.
Competition of 5" smartphones is a good thing.

If HTC still uses qualcomm CPU, I don't think I will move back to HTC.
I used to be HTC fanboy, really love HTC sense's integration, best proprietary Launcher/UI/framework among ALL android devices, I didn't even feel like I need to root nor change launcher when I was using HTC devices
BUT HTC really has a loose end on hardware spec. when I was going to upgrade my HTC Desire, I was choosing between HTC sensation and Samsung Galaxy SII.
Sensation was a HUGE disappointment to me, sluggish control, pitiful hardware spec as a flagship product. I ended up got the SII.
SII has superb hardware, everything was SO smooth and fast but the touchwiz is a major let down to me. I always hope one day I could use HTC sense on Samsung devices(which now I understand it will never happen)
Now I have Note, still the touchwiz is a real bugger but now I flashed ICS Stunner with Apex launcher, only thing I miss is the function S-Pen with S-memo. the rest are excellent. still not as good as SenseUI for my taste but close enough.
IF new HTC's Note competitor can have the smoothness operation like Samsung's device and retain the ability of SenseUI.
I will move back to HTC in a heartbeat.
I honestly don't like to flash rom, fix this fix that. I like good proprietary stuffs, maybe I am getting old, I don't like to geek around like I used to. I just want to have a phone that works for my taste at the first day I bought it, no mods, no flash.
sorry for the long post. Just my little thoughts

Well if the screen is S-LCD2 like the one on the One X then I'll seriously consider it..
Sense is the best UI out there, period (IMHO of course)
But I agree with @whatsaqazza, I'll take dual core A15 over quad core A9 any day, and it's obvious in One S vs One X that it has better performance and better battery life as well
Let's wait and see

Most of the high end devices are fast enough these days. I'd rather see more effort spent on power savings. I'd like to be able to beat the heck out of my device for a good 16 hours and still come home with 20% battery left. Dual core is fine.

What's up with all the "Sense UI" love? I upgraded from an iPhone to my first android phone -- an HTC Evo 4g. I absolutely loved it over the dumb iPhone. Then I upgraded to the Dell Streak 5 because I wanted a bigger phone. I later grew out of it got an HTC Inspire, once again I was a happy camper. So at that point, I decided I would never go back to another NON-HTC phone... until, my friend showed me the new Samsung Infuse 4G.. after playing with it a few mins, I was in LOVE with it! I couldn't believe what I was missing out on, the TouchWiz UI of Samsung made the Android experience even better! The next day I sold mine on craigslist and got me a brand new Infuse 4G off of ebay and have ever since become a fan of Samsung. Even today, after trying out a few Roms and custom launchers from the Market, I always end up coming back to my beloved TouchWiz UI. It is absolutely the best! I just can't stand using my phone without TouchWiz. It's that good!

I ****ing love my Note, but even I can't find a single argument in favour of tw over sense? Sense is just the most polished launcher anywhere.
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What's up with all the "Sense UI" love?
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I tried HTC HD2 and Wildfire about 2-3 months. Touchwiz is crap but Sense is worse, I really don't understand it and I don't like this UI style. It is almost impossible to customize. Very bad that all manufactors spit on Google offer a choice for users to choose Android stock interface or using inconvenient unpolished manufacturer UI, which add so many troubles and eat many % of battery and RAM.

Personally I hate sense. I find TouchWiz smoother, sadly. TouchWiz may lack the feature set or polish, but actual USE is smoother/quicker.
That said it is irrelevant for me until HTC switches screens. Those Pentile LCD's are just ugly IMO.

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Most of the high end devices are fast enough these days. I'd rather see more effort spent on power savings. I'd like to be able to beat the heck out of my device for a good 16 hours and still come home with 20% battery left. Dual core is fine.
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Same situation than in the ultrabook field. Yeah, there are Core i7, quad-core, 3.4 GHz parts, and GPUs with 2 GB dedicated RAM, but that on a small and thin device only means 2 hr battery life, chasis and keyboard hot as hell and noisy fan that breaks twice a year.
I keep using my Galaxy Note on power savings mode, and when I buy a new laptop, I'll make sure it has an Ivy Bridge ULV chip (17 W TDP). I do not run anything that requieres so much power and I do not like hot and noisy things on my hands for hours.
That may be OK on a gaming desktop, with plenty of fans and away from you under a desk, but not on a portable device. Look at the people complaining about the new chip on the New Ipad. Just selling GHz is not the point nowadays.

I can't believe how much people like Sense & Touchwizz.
I think that the best skin over android is Sony's. I just bought an Xperia S for my dad & absolutely love the live wallpaper, the weather widget & the overall skin on the settings list etc. Seriously, nothing else compares IMHO.
That being said, I personally never had a HTC Phone, but have played with a friend's one for a while. I felt that neither Sense nor Touchwizz was really good enough.

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I can't believe how much people like Sense & Touchwizz.
I think that the best skin over android is Sony's. I just bought an Xperia S for my dad & absolutely love the live wallpaper, the weather widget & the overall skin on the settings list etc. Seriously, nothing else compares IMHO.
That being said, I personally never had a HTC Phone, but have played with a friend's one for a while. I felt that neither Sense nor Touchwizz was really good enough.
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Once you are on AOSP or CM9, you don't want to go back to TouchWiz. Also, I coudn't stand Blur while on my Motorola Atrix. I was happy to become "blur-less". I have a friend who has a HTC and they were happy to become "sense-less" as well.

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Personally I hate sense. I find TouchWiz smoother, sadly. TouchWiz may lack the feature set or polish, but actual USE is smoother/quicker.
That said it is irrelevant for me until HTC switches screens. Those Pentile LCD's are just ugly IMO.
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You have literally no idea what you're talking about when it comes to screen technology.
Also, your eyesight must not be exemplary or you would have noticed the phone you tapped this out on uses a pentile subpixel arrangement. ;-)
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1080p on a 5" screen ? .. would that be something like 450ppi ? I find that a stupid waste on battery power on something that tbh, can we really tell with a 5" screen.. I would have opted for a 720p screen to cut cost and save battery.
I could be completely wrong..im just guessing
Bracken

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1080p on a 5" screen ? .. would that be something like 450ppi ? I find that a stupid waste on battery power on something that tbh, can we really tell with a 5" screen.. I would have opted for a 720p screen to cut cost and save battery.
I could be completely wrong..im just guessing
Bracken
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I completely agree, but you have people who just want "the best". 1080p is overdoing it, 720p is perfect for 5.3in IMO.
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