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Has anyone managed to find a patch for the Wizard camera yet? The lighting on this camera sucks so bad. If the camera let more light in around dark places it would probably be an ok camera as the quality in light places looks pretty good.

Anybody got any news for me on this yet? Is pointless having the cam if it cant b fixed

I can tell you that in the camera > menu > adjust you can tweak all the settings (gamma, brightness, contrast) to your own preferences
does that help?
digital cameras (CCDs) are all poor and grainy in low light - it's pretty standard.
This camera is excellent compared to my old Treo 600!

Anyone knows if is possible to get pictures portrait orientated (at least when grabin' in add-to-contacts mode)? Because rotating each one is ***.

Here's the Camera-patch in T-mobile Ext-Rom.Don't know whether if it's useful for you...I didn't notice any difference.... :?

I currently have camera app Version 3.00 (Build 21246)
I see that the files this patch replaces are:
HTCcamera.dll
- my size: 17408
- patch size: 6560
OV9650.dll
- my size: 46080
- patch size: 38304
But I have no idea how to get the version of the camera app after this patch ( Edit: before installing it, that is ). The DLLs don't have any regular dll versioning information, and couldn't spot anything with a hex viewer.
I'll try and catch some shots with my current version and the patched version, of the same scene with varying levels of light, and see what the difference turns out being. Need to figure out how to get my Wizard stable on something first to get shots of said same scene

Replaced the camera - could spot no interface changes, About screen still shows the same version. The files are definitely replaced on the device, though - file sizes match the patch file's.
Results: nada. I *might* say that it may remove a bit of the yellow/green overcast in a brither picture. However, there was so much difference even inbetween 3 consecutive shots (Ambience set to Incandescent, so it's not an auto-whitebalance issue) that I can't really tell whether that was a fluke (as all the darker images have the same yellow/green overcast) or not.
Overall, the camera is pretty poor. There's a lot of noise, the shutter duration is fairly long (And even longer with Ambience set to 'night', which does boost values a good bit - to the point of showing hot pixels), and even in full bright light indoors, it's just too 'muddy'. It's fine for shooting the occasional picture, and decent for outdoor pictures (in sunlight) - but it's not about to replace any dedicated camera you may have. Compared to e.g. a S/E w800i, you'd think they ripped the camera component off of a 1995 $20 webcam.
Attached is a pretty small picture of the results - the full size picture, and original data, are available until I get tired of keeping them around, if anybody's really interested.
Top row is pre-patch, bottom row is post-patch. Left = full bright, Middle = Dark as the dimmer light would get, Right = Light off, Ambience set to Night.
Edit: All images in the attached picture are averages of 3 consecutive shots, to try and eliminate any inter-shot discrepancies. As a result, the noise levels are lower than in an individual shot, but the pictures a bit blurrier (couldn't keep the device 100% steady on the make-shift tripod). The images are indicatory for lighting response levels only.

Everything green in low light photos

Every time I take a photo of something in a little dark setting, most of the colors turn out green. Note that the light is low but not completely dark. White balance is on auto. (i'll try the other WB options soon)
Anyone else notice this ?
Sample:
ps: yay for then imgur uploader

Its not the camera its the tungsten lights near your car that are turning green, camera sensors and film both have this problem. especially at high ISO ratings

Thats possible, but I've had this happen at two other locations, One indoors at a restaurant.
(also thats not my car)

is that a 350z? friggin sweet man! XD

[Q] Outdoor Photos In Bright Light Are Blue

Hi;
Photos taken with my HTC Desire HD outdoors in bright light appear to have a blueish hue to them, anyone have this problem and what settings should I change?

Hi, your 2nd picture was what I spent most of today looking at.
You should take a look at your white balance, setting it to fluorescent can give pictures a blue hue. Also try lowering your sharpness, the default camera app tries to hard to enhance the picture and quickly ruins it.
This DHD Camera Guide Thread has 99% of all camera issues covered

Hi;
I just took a look at my camera settings and the white balance was indeed set to fluorescent and the sharpness was already dropped to -1 so I left it. I also de-selected auto enhance. I'll take some pics tomorrow. I remember adjusting the settings shortly after getting the phone when reading a review on the HTC DHD on how to enhance pictures!!!

Flash darkens photos?

Anyone else observing that when they take a pic with the flash on in "medium" light conditions, the photo comes out actually darker than if the flash wasn't even used?
I swear the timing of the flash is bad on my S5. When I tap the button to shoot the photo, the flash turns on and the image on the screen looks bright and good. But then I think the photo is actually taken a split second later after the flash has turned off, and the photo that gets taken is dark as hell. I think I've tried all the combination of settings in the default S5 camera app, and nothing helps.

Brent212 said:
Anyone else observing that when they take a pic with the flash on in "medium" light conditions, the photo comes out actually darker than if the flash wasn't even used?
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I haven't seen this with my S5. Unfortunately you didn't elaborate on your camera settings, camera version or other crucial details.
At a guess, and it is only speculation since we don't have your details, you are expecting the flash to act like a fill flash. When the auto mode (which is probably what you are using) probably uses the flash in a conventional manner i.e. a fixed shutter speed (or limited shutter speed range). There are good reasons for that, but the net effect if the subject is outside of the flash range is that little of the flash is reflected back and the (presumably) higher shutter speed lets less total light in resulting in a darker picture.
You can test that thesis by taking some pictures of a subject that is very close to the camera. If the problem goes away with close subjects that implies that the problem is an artifact of using flash for a subject that is too distant for the flash to work with. No flash can work at an unlimited distance which is why people using a flash in a stadium when they are 75 meters from a subject is silly. In this case, flash mode simply isn't appropriate to the situation you are using it in and you'd be farther ahead to use a slower shutter speed, without flash.
It's highly unlikely that a bug would see the shutter opening after the flash.
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It happens with literally *every* combination of the settings in the camera app (with flash set to "on"). Auto mode, beauty face mode... actually, are there any other modes that I'd use to take a picture of something 3 feet away in a darkish room? I have panorama, "shot & more", virtual tour... those wouldn't be right, correct? So both beauty face and auto, with all the combination of settings... hdr on/off, stabilization on/off, iso at auto and all four "manual" options, all three metering modes... nothing makes a difference.
The problem is the same all the times -- it's not just that the non "subject" areas are dark -- the whole image is dark, just like if you turned off the light in a room and snapped a pic at the moment when the light was still on at 50% brightness as it's turning off. It's super annoying just because of how damn good the image looks on the screen when the photo is being taken... it even seems to "snap" the shot at the right time... the shutter sound goes off and the little border animation happens when the pic is nice and bright. Then I open the actual image and it's garbage.
I was hoping someone might know of some setting in a config file somewhere for a delay between when the flash is triggered and when the camera attempts to capture the image, and that maybe mine got changed somehow to a larger than optimal value.
My wife has an s5, I'll have to test with hers and see if it suffers from the same problem.

Long story short: the camera is using a fast exposure time to keep the subject from being "blown out", i.e. overexposed, when the flash is used. That means that the foreground is going to be sharper but anything in the background will be lost in darkness if the ambient lighting is low. When you leave the flash off, the camera will use a longer exposure time (or shutter speed, if you will) to allow enough light, which also lets more of the background be seen in the picture.
Another thing to consider is that if your screen is set for auto brightness control, you will not have the same brightness when viewing the gallery pictures that you will when looking at the camera view. The camera view is full brightness at all times, but if you're viewing the pictures that you took in the gallery, screen brightness will drop down according to ambient lighting. Photos definitely look dark if you're looking at the gallery by lamp light.

Marlin29 said:
Long story short: the camera is using a fast exposure time to keep the subject from being "blown out", i.e. overexposed, when the flash is used. That means that the foreground is going to be sharper but anything in the background will be lost in darkness if the ambient lighting is low. When you leave the flash off, the camera will use a longer exposure time (or shutter speed, if you will) to allow enough light, which also lets more of the background be seen in the picture.
Another thing to consider is that if your screen is set for auto brightness control, you will not have the same brightness when viewing the gallery pictures that you will when looking at the camera view. The camera view is full brightness at all times, but if you're viewing the pictures that you took in the gallery, screen brightness will drop down according to ambient lighting. Photos definitely look dark if you're looking at the gallery by lamp light.
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That's interesting stuff, but doesn't really apply to the problem I described (at least the first part... the screen brightness setting stuff is potentially related, but isn't in my case). The exposure time is fine, it's just **when** the exposure starts that is the problem... a little too late, IMO. Really wish there was a way to adjust when it takes the photo in relation to when the flash is fired.
The foreground objects aren't lit up at all. No difference between foreground and background. Sometimes, I'm taking a picture of a t-shirt laying on a flat surface from 2 feet away. Without a flash it looks pretty good, but it's a little dark so I decide to try the flash to see if it'll lighten it up a bit. Instead, it makes it look like I turned out half the lights in the room.... way darker than no flash.

Same here, three friends of mine too.

I'm having the same problem s5 neo

I just figured out how to correct the pics from coming out dark. Go into camera-settings-exposure value-slide to the right to 2.5 or more.My pics come out fine now. Indoor light normal daylight.( with flash off.) I will know more in other settings (places ,situations )if it needs to be tweaked again.

no problems here
my settings are AUTO MODE
flash AUTO
no effets at all
and still i get good shots in night

Power/current draw issue?
Mine was doing this, and I noticed the first flash (ranging) was fine, but the second flash (to illuminate the image when taken) was much weaker. Whilst plugged into charge, repeated low light experiment, and the low light flash illuminated image was fine!! Maybe battery on its way out?

more camera flaws - color balance issues

I noticed when photographing clothes to sell on FB that black shirts and hoodies look navy blue and orange looks reddish orange and light grey looks bluish. the outside blue sky was shining in the window and the overhead light is warmer. if i hold the camera facing the window it's fine. but as soon as i point it anywhere else then the color balance goes to hell. i tried the stock and Gcam. Also noticed in the living room the green and orange blanket looked like a funny shade of orange instead of green and a yellowish orange on the orange. It seems impossible to get the colors right indoors with some things. anyone else notice this?

Do you have it in manual mode or auto ?

This is quite common. Digital cameras can either automatically or manually decide what is white. It can be hard to get this right in all situations - usually there are some assumptions made in auto mode, but "white" obviously varies based on lighting.
In manual mode, you can additionally turn on RAW saving (it will save jpegs too in this mode). The white balance can easily be adjusted after-the-fact on the raw images (but then you need to use something to convert them from raw to jpeg).
If you want accurate color rendition and you need to use your phone for the pictures, use manual mode. Put a white sheet of paper in the lighting conditions you are photographing in and adjust the color temperature until it looks white. Take a test shot and look at it on another device since everyone's display can vary. Once you get that right, see if your colored objects look right as well (and then maintain the same lighting for everything!).
Oh, and this actually is a problem with film too - only the color balance is a permanent part of the film There used to be tungsten and daylight films or you could use a filter to compensate.

Although automatic white balance works reasonably well most of the time, certain scenarios can confuse the algorithm. The mixed lighting scene you describe is one of them. The camera detects your indoor lighting but most of the ambient light is cool , from the outside. Use manual mode in these situations, and adjust the white balance yourself. If you're going to be taking a lot of photos in the same sitting with the same lighting, it is probably worthwhile to use a neutral or white card to set it. If its just a one time casual photo, just adjust the WB by eye until the look of the preview looks right.
railfan-eric said:
I noticed when photographing clothes to sell on FB that black shirts and hoodies look navy blue and orange looks reddish orange and light grey looks bluish. the outside blue sky was shining in the window and the overhead light is warmer. if i hold the camera facing the window it's fine. but as soon as i point it anywhere else then the color balance goes to hell. i tried the stock and Gcam. Also noticed in the living room the green and orange blanket looked like a funny shade of orange instead of green and a yellowish orange on the orange. It seems impossible to get the colors right indoors with some things. anyone else notice this?
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jshames said:
Although automatic white balance works reasonably well most of the time, certain scenarios can confuse the algorithm. The mixed lighting scene you describe is one of them. The camera detects your indoor lighting but most of the ambient light is cool , from the outside. Use manual mode in these situations, and adjust the white balance yourself. If you're going to be taking a lot of photos in the same sitting with the same lighting, it is probably worthwhile to use a neutral or white card to set it. If its just a one time casual photo, just adjust the WB by eye until the look of the preview looks right.
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Thanks, the mixed lighting and all what you said is what i figured. I didn't take the time to use manual. i just wanted to get the pictures done and posted to the FB groups before i got lazy and put it off.