Thanks....
I want to know too
Mytouch3gs are 32b
Is there somewhere that says the difference between 32A and 32B? I think one of them has more ram....
RAM, different CPU, and the microphone holes are in the opposite way
So which one is the better one? THanks
MT3G from US is 32B just like G1 with 192MB Ram while 32A vodaphone or sapphire has 299MB like Hero.
You should get neither though and wait for phones with more ram, one example is the behold two which i think has 3XXMb ram and Cliq has 256MB.
Its been a while since I've messed with Android. I was thinking of getting my buddy's MyTouch3G for cheap and rooting it, then putting 2.1 on there...
Legaleye3000 said:
Its been a while since I've messed with Android. I was thinking of getting my buddy's MyTouch3G for cheap and rooting it, then putting 2.1 on there...
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If you get a phone with more ram you wont need to use swap like on the G1. 32A phones dont need it.Swap gets slower over time since it acts as virtual ram. Im sure you can get a cheap cliq or Magic from ebay.
Fender edition is 32a
The fender edition MT3G that is being released on 1/20 is a 32a, 288 mb ram.
My wife has had her G1 for less than a week, and i really love the phone.
Now, the only thing i noticed, is that i do not use the keyboard that much, or rather, that i prefer a screen keyboard.
I know i do not need to use the keyboard on the G1, but i think the myTouch is thinner without keyboard.
So, i was wondering,
1) is the myTouch 3G basically a G1 without keyboard? is it thinner than the G1?
2) what model is the one to be soft-rooted (i don't want to do test points, or similar complications).
3) 3G is quadband, meaning, it would work on AT&T?
4) Would most Firmwares work on it?
Thanks!
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My wife has had her G1 for less than a week, and i really love the phone.
Now, the only thing i noticed, is that i do not use the keyboard that much, or rather, that i prefer a screen keyboard.
I know i do not need to use the keyboard on the G1, but i think the myTouch is thinner without keyboard.
So, i was wondering,
1) is the myTouch 3G basically a G1 without keyboard? is it thinner than the G1?
2) what model is the one to be soft-rooted (i don't want to do test points, or similar complications).
3) 3G is quadband, meaning, it would work on AT&T?
4) Would most Firmwares work on it?
Thanks!
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1) The Mytouch 3G has better battery life and more ROM memory, the Mytouch is thinner than the G1.
2) 32B Mytouch 3G (the one without the headphone jack, although I'm not sure what you mean by soft-rooted. If you mean easier to root, then get the 32B Mytouch.
3) Yes, but you would only get EDGE service, and you would have to unlock it.
4)1.5 and up work, I'm not sure how 2.1 ROMs are on the 32B.
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2) 32B Mytouch 3G (the one without the headphone jack, although I'm not sure what you mean by soft-rooted. If you mean easier to root, then get the 32B Mytouch.
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I mean that i want to do the "root" myself, and i do not want to have to solder anything. So, all the myTouchs can be rooted? How difficult are the others?
Checking the AndroidSPIN DB, it looks like the 32B is the one with most of the ROMs, and the 32A (Fender?) has just a few ROMs, and no 2.x ones, making the 32B the one to get. I'm right? Any explanation why? How can i make sure i get the 32B's?
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3) Yes, but you would only get EDGE service, and you would have to unlock it.
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Why? If it is quadband, shouldn't it work on AT&T? (Actually on Claro in Argentina) For example, the Roger/AT&T Nexus One, works 3G in Argentina.
get a rogers magic (32a) better than mytouch as it has more ram
also there are tons of roms for 32a ... pretty much all 32b/g1/mytouch roms are available with kernel port
Good to know. But if i do not want a keyboard?
the rogers magic does not have a keyboard.. it looks identical to the mytouch..
EDIT: i should call it the HTC Magic 32a as there are other carriers than rogers who carry it, i just happen to be on rogers..
also both the mytouch and magic are fairly easy to root, relatively similar in difficulty ...
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I mean that i want to do the "root" myself, and i do not want to have to solder anything. So, all the myTouchs can be rooted? How difficult are the others?
Checking the AndroidSPIN DB, it looks like the 32B is the one with most of the ROMs, and the 32A (Fender?) has just a few ROMs, and no 2.x ones, making the 32B the one to get. I'm right? Any explanation why? How can i make sure i get the 32B's?
Why? If it is quadband, shouldn't it work on AT&T? (Actually on Claro in Argentina) For example, the Roger/AT&T Nexus One, works 3G in Argentina.
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The Roger's HTC Magic uses the same 3G bands as AT&T US phones, so it would work for 3G service. The 32B Mytouch, does not, it uses different 3G bands.
Lets try yo sumarize.
I want: Android phone. ROOTEABLE WITHOUT HARDWARE MODIFICATION.
Nice to have: AT&T compatible 3G.
CANDIDATES
Dream/G1: KEYBOARD.
T-Mobile version is NOT compatible with AT&T 3G.
Rogers version IS compatible with AT&T 3G.
ALL VERSIONS ROOTEABLE WITHOUT HARDWARE MOD. ?????
myTouch: NO keyboard.
T-Mobile version is NOT compatible with AT&T 3G.
Rogers version IS compatible with AT&T 3G.
32A & 32B ROOTEABLE WITHOUT HW MOD. ?????. 32A VERY FEW ROMS. ?????
Magic 32a: NO keyboard.
Rogers version IS compatible with AT&T 3G.
32A ROOTEABLE WITHOUT HW MOD. ?????
I'm correct about them? Any other suggestions?
32A ROOTEABLE WITHOUT HW MOD. ?????
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yes it is rootable without hw mod, i dont know any phone that requires hardware mod to root
32A VERY FEW ROMS. ?????
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and the 32A has TONS AND TONS OF roms just look in the dev section of this forum... even the newer mytouch 1.2 (32a w/ headphone jack) has roms now...
So all 3 (Dream, myTouch, Magic), on all versions (32A or 32B) are rooteable with more or less simple sw mods?
When i searched the androidspin db, the 32A myTouch had only 4 ROMs listed, while the 32B myTouch had 10 times more. Or what i'm missing?
So, with AT&T compatible 3G, myTouch and Magic would fill my requirements?
EDIT: on ebay the MAGIC & MYTOUCH are listed together as the same phone. What i'm missing?
first off not all roms are on android spin, just look in this forum, right here, right where you are, no where else, its all here.. ill even link to it (Look at all the threads that have 32A in front of them, all roms)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=493
the mytouch is basically a google branded magic with different guts than a non-google branded magic. they look IDENTICAL and you can not tell them apart other than the "google" on the back of the phone, or by going into fastboot..
when buying on ebay ask the purchaser if it is a 32A device or a 32B device.. or just get a "Rogers Magic" and you are guaranteed its a 32A device.. which i would highly recommend as it has twice the ram as the mytouch (32B) devices...the MyTouch 1.2 , which is a modified 32A, also has roms available, however not as many (yet), you can see those in the forum above listed as (MT3G 1.2, LE, Fender), all roms listed as (32A) are for the original 32A and NOT the MyTouch 1.2 32A
and yes. all 3, well 4 including the MyTouch 1.2, devices can be rooted by softmod,
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the mytouch is basically a google branded magic with different guts than a non-google branded magic. they look IDENTICAL and you can not tell them apart other than the "google" on the back of the phone, or by going into fastboot... the MyTouch 1.2 , which is a modified 32A, also has roms available, however not as many (yet), you can see those in the forum above listed as (MT3G 1.2, LE, Fender), all roms listed as (32A) are for the original 32A and NOT the MyTouch 1.2 32A.
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Great explanation.
So basically, all Rogers phones have UMTS 850/1900, correct, and the one i should get is the Magic Rogers, or any Magic 32A with UMTS 850/1900.
*** HTC Dream ***
T-Mobile G1 = UMTS 1700/2100 MHz
Dream Rogers = UMTS 850/1900 MHZ
*** HTC Magic ***
32A (288MB RAM): Rogers --- T-Mobile myTouch 3G v1.2
32B (192MB RAM): T-Mobile myTouch 3G --- Vodafone Magic --- Google Ion
Rogers UMTS 850/1900 --- T-Mobile UMTS 1700/2100
Digital, PLEASE take time to research what you are telling this man. He almost went a spent 300 - 400 dollars on a new phone just to find out he wouldn't be able to root it. That's pretty messed up, man.
Rogers take JTAG to root. After the 911 update, there is no root. Only with hardware modification.
So if you buy a rogers now, no you will NOT be able to root without a hardware modification.
By a T-Mobile myTouch. MUSH easier to root. 32a might have better specs, but you're going to be stuck stock.
You CAN go with a fender which is 32a, but you won't have much ROMs as digital pointed out.
Edit: If you want links for proof here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=631899
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658598
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625732&page=14
And the latest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558301&page=16
Crap. So, if I understand, we have:
1) Magic Rogers - 32A - 288MB RAM - JTAG to Root - Many ROMs.
2) T-Mobile myTouch 3G ORIGINAL - 32B - 192MB RAM - SW Root - Many ROMs.
3) T-Mobile myTouch 3G v1.2 NEW - 32A - 288MB RAM - SW Root - FEW ROMS - Also called FENDER or LE.
The one WITH the 3.5mm headset jack is the NEW myTouch from T-Mobile?
What about the HTC Dream from Rogers? Any recommendations on that?
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Crap. So, if I understand, we have:
1) Magic Rogers - 32A - 288MB RAM - JTAG to Root - Many ROMs.
2) T-Mobile myTouch 3G ORIGINAL - 32B - 192MB RAM - SW Root - Many ROMs.
3) T-Mobile myTouch 3G v1.2 NEW - 32A - 288MB RAM - SW Root - FEW ROMS - Also called FENDER or LE.
The one WITH the 3.5mm headset jack is the NEW myTouch from T-Mobile?
What about the HTC Dream from Rogers? Any recommendations on that?
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Both Rogers are unrootable as of now. ONLY with JTAG. If you want a Magic, I highly suggest finding a Google ION, if you can't, a plain 'ol myTouch 3g 32b.
Yes, your chart is right.
Edit: RAM isn't THAT noticeable. I'm running newest cyanogen with NO swap and my phone flies. Thats just my opinion, though. Not really a "fact."
Great. Thanks.
Isn't it the Google ION the same as the HTC Magic from T-Mobile? Or is a Magic from Rogers?
So, one last question. I don't have a T-Mobile/Rogers card, and with the G1, i had to do some tricks to activate without 3G (connect to the PC and do some ADB tricks i found here).
Would i be able to activate in Argentina with another SIM somehow?
EDIT: just to make sure, the myTouch WITH the 3.5mm headset jack is the NEW myTouch from T-Mobile, the one that has FEW ROMs yet, right?
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Great. Thanks.
Isn't it the Google ION the same as the HTC Magic from T-Mobile? Or is a Magic from Rogers?
So, one last question. I don't have a T-Mobile/Rogers card, and with the G1, i had to do some tricks to activate without 3G (connect to the PC and do some ADB tricks i found here).
Would i be able to activate in Argentina with another SIM somehow?
EDIT: just to make sure, the myTouch WITH the 3.5mm headset jack is the NEW myTouch from T-Mobile, the one that has FEW ROMs yet, right?
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Google ION is just HTC with NO T-Mobile bs on it. But, yes, it's pretty much the same.
I really don't know about activation, man. I live in the U.S. Couldn't help you, sorry.
Yes, your edit is right on par.
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Google ION is just HTC with NO T-Mobile bs on it. But, yes, it's pretty much the same.
I really don't know about activation, man. I live in the U.S. Couldn't help you, sorry.
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Do you know if the ION will require activation?
What do you mean "require activation?" EVERY phone has to be activated. It doesn't just come with service.
Meaning no need to activate because is a developer phone, or that you can bypass it, like you do with moded ROMs.
This seems to do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588293&highlight=activate