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Should be getting n1 tomorrow - which ROM to use?

OK so hopefully my N1 should get to me tomorrow, and I'm wanting to put a ROM on it (think its just running stock 2.2.1 ATM according to the seller).
I'm quite drawn to MIUI at the minute, because of speed and battery life, and I quite like the hybrid iphone/android look, but I have read some comments that this isn't quite an every day ROM just yet, as it has a few issues and bugs.
The other I keep reading about is CM6 but what is battery life and speed like? Is this a more complete ROM than MIUI or am I better off with the former?
Are there any good ROMs I should consider other than those - I am after something that is fast, reliable, and pretty (the pretty isn't essential but is desirable).
I know I could look for myself, but I figured that opinions from those who've tried different ROMs in anger would be very useful.

It really is a personal preference thing. So try them all, that's the great thing about the N1.
I didn't like miui, too iPhoney, but a very nice rom none the less.
CM6 is the rom I use, very complete and feature packed. Speed is excellent but battery life less than others. But with IntersectRaven's kernel I get pretty good battery life
Enomther rom is another good one, with really good battery life. Evil's sense ports are really good too
But really you have to try them, you will find one you like
Best of luck, and welcome to one of the best phones you will ever own
Rellikzephyr
Sent from my Nexus One using Tapatalk

tameracingdriver said:
OK so hopefully my N1 should get to me tomorrow, and I'm wanting to put a ROM on it (think its just running stock 2.2.1 ATM according to the seller).
I'm quite drawn to MIUI at the minute, because of speed and battery life, and I quite like the hybrid iphone/android look, but I have read some comments that this isn't quite an every day ROM just yet, as it has a few issues and bugs.
The other I keep reading about is CM6 but what is battery life and speed like? Is this a more complete ROM than MIUI or am I better off with the former?
Are there any good ROMs I should consider other than those - I am after something that is fast, reliable, and pretty (the pretty isn't essential but is desirable).
I know I could look for myself, but I figured that opinions from those who've tried different ROMs in anger would be very useful.
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Crazy idea, if you're new to Android, how about using the stock ROM for a while? Even if you're not new, using the stock ROM is a good way to gauge if the phone is solid.. If you put $random_rom on it and you have problems you won't know if it's the phone, the ROM, your apps, etc..

khaytsus said:
Crazy idea, if you're new to Android, how about using the stock ROM for a while? Even if you're not new, using the stock ROM is a good way to gauge if the phone is solid.. If you put $random_rom on it and you have problems you won't know if it's the phone, the ROM, your apps, etc..
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I'm not totally new to android - my girlfriend has an HTC Magic with Cupcake on it, and I've briefly owned an HTC Desire (had a fault) and have had a Galaxy S for the last 4 months (which I'm getting rid of because it's unreliable).... but you do make a good point about the phone, so thanks I may do that, but I'd still like suggestions because I can't see it staying stock for long

Evil D:'s NXSense is pretty awesome!

+1 for staying stock. Once you find something you want to do but stock won't let you, then it's time to go with custom rom.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.

MIUI is stable and is my everyday ROM based on speed, battery life and stability. If you don't like the default iPhone looking launcher, just use LauncherPro.
Enothemer's ROM is also very nice.
I thought CM6 was the bomb but realised that Enothemer/MIUI had most of what I needed to tinker with anyways. Battery life was horrid with CM6.

Ebonwumon said:
+1 for staying stock. Once you find something you want to do but stock won't let you, then it's time to go with custom rom.
-Sent from my Nexus One Superphone.
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I've yet to find anything the stock ROM can do that Evil's NXSense can't... However, NXSense will do plenty that stock won't.

inneyeseakay said:
I've yet to find anything the stock ROM can do that Evil's NXSense can't... However, NXSense will do plenty that stock won't.
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I'm using v1.15 of Evil's NXSense ROM, and I absolutely love it! It's fairly stable and the battery life is great -- I routinely can go 48 hours with light-moderate use. I'm particularly impressed with Sense, which is so much better than I believed it could be.
The only thing I miss from stock is the unified inbox for email.

"Fairly" stable you say? :-s
Incidentally I've just read about the fact the power button on it WILL break, is it really that flimsy :-o I was under the impression these things were well built?
Anyway thanks for the ideas, I always thought sense on the htc desire was pretty nice, is this evil d rom better than that?
Might have to get myself swype as I'm quite used to it on the sgs now.

liqn7 said:
MIUI is stable and is my everyday ROM based on speed, battery life and stability. If you don't like the default iPhone looking launcher, just use LauncherPro.
Enothemer's ROM is also very nice.
I thought CM6 was the bomb but realised that Enothemer/MIUI had most of what I needed to tinker with anyways. Battery life was horrid with CM6.
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Please don't make it look like MIUI comes from Enom, kthx.

Run the stock rom long enough to learn what it is, otherwise you dont know what you had to start with and wont know what you gained or lost. Its good to keep in mind that most roms will only partly meet your needs and will likely have something in them you dont want where you might actually prefer the stock version over whatever was added. You wont know that if you dont fiddle with stock long enough to see what it brings to the table. If you are relatively new to flashing roms consider a conservative stability first rom like enom to start out.

MIUI is what i'm currently using and i'm really digging it
it's got good battery life and an overall good experience
highly reccomend to use it with launcher pro though, as the iphone look is very ugly/cluttered IMO
if i were you though i'd hold off on MIUI since it does have a few bugs and since you're just getting the phone tomorrow it'd be kinda hard to distinguish if the problem was with your phone or the rom,
on that note, staying stock for a couple days wouldn't hurt but if you're anything like most of us here you're probably eager to get some custom roms on there
anyway i digress, enom's got the best battery life hands down and there's plenty of tweaks and customizations (although not as many as cyanogen's of course) and it's an extremely stable and dependable rom. for me it's kinda like my "go-to rom"
as for cyan's rom, it's a nice rom with an myriad of tweaks and options but i've always had battery life issues with it.
evil's nxsense is also a sweet rom if you're into sense and battery life/stability isn't too bad on it.
actually, any way you slice it, you're gonna have a great rom on your phone! so i say try 'em all and have fun haha

[POLL] Which gsm hero rom is running on your phone?

[POLL] Which gsm hero rom is CURRENTLY running on your phone?
Choose one and we'll see what's going on in the world of our little gsm heros.
I don't see a poll like this for gsm hero - certainly nothing with current roms.

Good idea for a poll! I too would like to know what is happening with our little Hero(s).

thanks
I decided to limit to only one answer, what's running right now, since many of us nandroid and flash regularly we could end up with the 5 or 6 most obvious answers all being voted for by everyone. to me that's just silly.
at least this is scientific: if not absolutely indicative of everyone's favorite rom, at least it's indicative of the current choice.
Could be used for a trend chart if in the future we do the same poll again and compare results.

a.t.m. running:
- 2.3 gingerbread - cronos
Working good, happy Gingerbread user

DjoeN said:
a.t.m. running:
- 2.3 gingerbread - cronos
Working good, happy Gingerbread user
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Dito, and voted as such

note: I kept results anonymous (hopefully) so if you wish to keep your status private you can still vote.
happy to see people posting openly though of course

wow hahaha reload first page of gsm hero development forum and every rom thread's most recent post is my link to this poll.
I wanted to be fair so tried to post the link for every rom that is getting current thread discussion.
but no posts there after my posts, even after 15 minutes or so - I suppose everyone's here voting.
pretty much the results I expected aside from the mass of gb users!
surprising about rcmix and tegro - I know of some users of those roms currently.

wow - you VR12 guys - you could consider backing up (using nandroid) and trying out RCmix or tegro. they're both much newer versions of sense roms that are quicker in some ways and also offer newer nicer features (newer widgets and other good things). but good that you're happy with vr12 still
Cheers

dkelley said:
wow - you VR12 guys - you could consider backing up (using nandroid) and trying out RCmix or tegro. they're both much newer versions of sense roms that are quicker in some ways and also offer newer nicer features (newer widgets and other good things). but good that you're happy with vr12 still
Cheers
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Hey dkelley, long time no speak (again)
Interesting you mentioned VR12... I have been looking into security of the Android platform, and I would strongly recommend people move off Sense-based ROMs, and onto a Froyo custom ROM for now...
I am not at liberty to give details of the exploit (and I don't have full details), given most non-custom ROM devices will sit for the rest of their lives, vulnerable to this, but I understand that the 2.1 ROMs have some pretty serious security holes in the browser system, which appear to be better in the last set of sources I pulled from CM on the froyo tree (for FroydVillain 1.7.x)
So while it's interesting to see people still using VR12, I would suggest everyone on a Sense-based ROM moves to a "proper" 2.2 vanilla ROM. I don't think a Sense UI 2.2 ROM would be safe, so I'd discourage those too. It appears you need something CM based, and pretty recent.
As such, I would urge anyone using older CM-based ROMs (say from before November or October) to upgrade if they are concerned about security while surfing the internet. HTC don't seem to be interested in fixing the vulnerability, but I checked FV 1.7 and it is not vulnerable to this one attack.
If you support the idea of HTC being pressed into updating their phones (remember that EVERY user of the Hero, who isn't on a custom ROM, is vulnerable to any security exploits, which will not be fixed unless they do an update), then check out http://bit.ly/fDGHPV, where I am trying to get some support together before I contact HTC and mobile carriers.
PS Don, I seem to have derailed this a bit... Figured it was perhaps best to post this in here, since there's no point in making a new thread that we want to get many people to do, and you already did the "donkey work" so to speak. If this derails the thread, I'll sweep it out into another thread if you want

pulser_g2 said:
If you support the idea of HTC being pressed into updating their phones (remember that EVERY user of the Hero, who isn't on a custom ROM, is vulnerable to any security exploits, which will not be fixed unless they do an update), then check out http://bit.ly/fDGHPV, where I am trying to get some support together before I contact HTC and mobile carriers.
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Hi....
Do you have any CVE references ?
http://cve.mitre.org/
This is just a blog with without any CVE-refs as I can see.....
http://thomascannon.net/blog/2010/11/android-data-stealing-vulnerability/

Hey Pulser
surprised you didn't send me a warning for spamming the same post linking to this thread in like a dozen gsm hero threads within 5 minutes yesterday LoL
Interesting, and a little scary, what you're saying.
But being the scientific (and slightly cynical) type I tend not to believe anything without either proof or at least further information.
I'll read up on it some - but can you summarize the possible type of damage? such as gathering of private data by parties who know about the exploit? or damage to the phone via intentional cause (again by parties in the know)? or what

dkelley said:
Hey Pulser
surprised you didn't send me a warning for spamming the same post linking to this thread in like a dozen gsm hero threads within 5 minutes yesterday LoL
Interesting, and a little scary, what you're saying.
But being the scientific (and slightly cynical) type I tend not to believe anything without either proof or at least further information.
I'll read up on it some - but can you summarize the possible type of damage? such as gathering of private data by parties who know about the exploit? or damage to the phone via intentional cause (again by parties in the know)? or what
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I went back to Cronosproject 1.7.2 from gb beta 6. Even the massive headway they made thus far has been awesome with Fee and Ele together I can't see how it can be made as good as 1.7.2. Its way behind on performance and hogs memory with the minimum system and regular apps installed. The battery seems awesome but not much in there to use it. I'll wait till full release or stick with this rom. I can have a desire on wife's upgrade but I fancy something more now.desire is very quick.
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spikey68 said:
I went back to Cronosproject 1.7.2 from gb beta 6. Even the massive headway they made thus far has been awesome with Fee and Ele together I can't see how it can be made as good as 1.7.2. Its way behind on performance and hogs memory with the minimum system and regular apps installed. The battery seems awesome but not much in there to use it. I'll wait till full release or stick with this rom. I can have a desire on wife's upgrade but I fancy something more now.desire is very quick.
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agreed but give it time, and disagreed about "hogs memory": using the available memory like crazy is done to speed up performance, it's not hogging anything in a bad way. when something else requests memory that memory is freed up.
gb's memory manager is years ahead of it's predecessors
but yea, it will take a while.
Note - it's at 0.0.7 now and has everything working except camera which they're working on. performance is always improving, all sensors work now, and it's pretty amazing.

I just need a more stable build for now dude. Grafix and app issues made me revert. I'm sure with input on Cronus now they will make it much better. They need to get used to each others methods of building. I love it on there and not many will give it the dedication that Feeyo puts in. Ele is not dissimilar so expect great things. The futures bright
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spikey68 said:
I just need a more stable build for now dude. Grafix and app issues made me revert. I'm sure with input on Cronus now they will make it much better. They need to get used to each others methods of building. I love it on there and not many will give it the dedication that Feeyo puts in. Ele is not dissimilar so expect great things. The futures bright
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agreed. was just correcting you about the memory hogging thing since it's a good thing not a bad thing.
edit: well, not agreed about stability LoL. sorry I keep doing that . I'm running it and have for days and it's super stable. gui speed has improved a ton now too. you wouldn't know you were in such a new rom if you tried it on my phone cuz I disabled the animatinos etc very carefully in various settings places and use LP and so on.
BUT for me the fastest rom is still cronos eclair lite - it's gui, with LP, is noticeably faster than with other roms. If only it wasn't 2.1 based (with it's EXCEPTIONALLY slow and crappy applications manager and so on).

dkelley said:
agreed. was just correcting you about the memory hogging thing since it's a good thing not a bad thing.
edit: well, not agreed about stability LoL. sorry I keep doing that . I'm running it and have for days and it's super stable. gui speed has improved a ton now too. you wouldn't know you were in such a new rom if you tried it on my phone cuz I disabled the animatinos etc very carefully in various settings places and use LP and so on.
BUT for me the fastest rom is still cronos eclair lite - it's gui, with LP, is noticeably faster than with other roms. If only it wasn't 2.1 based (with it's EXCEPTIONALLY slow and crappy applications manager and so on).
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I just had fc's with too many things. Neo, quad, then regular apps and no market. With minimal apps it was slowing right down. I figured that no matter how good the memory allocation manager if you don't have the physical memory the manager can't work right. I'll wait. Do you have basics like market working?
I never had any kind of lag with 1.7.2. The GUI is awesome. It benches close to the desire.
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spikey68 said:
I just had fc's with too many things. Neo, quad, then regular apps and no market. With minimal apps it was slowing right down. I figured that no matter how good the memory allocation manager if you don't have the physical memory the manager can't work right. I'll wait. Do you have basics like market working?
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everything's workign perfectly, no FCs, market's been fine for several versions now for most of us. everything except camera apps and certain specific graphics apps work great now.
neocore's broken, doesn't matter of course, same with quad, it's not relevant to anything. They're apps designed for certain operating system versions and hardware and the hero running gb doesn't fit the bill. those are are irrelevant apps that can be dismissed.
I play lots of games and they're working just great. all productivity and utility apps are great.
audio and multimedia stuff are fine too. not really sure where you were getting FCs but it sounds like it needed a new wipe and reflash possibly.
but then there's that strange thing were not every rom works on everyone's hero - I'll never know why, but I swear it's true
apps2sd and so on are working now (with a patch from elelinux). there's something that's slowing down the gui and animations still, and I accidentally had my gb phone running super fast in those areas when my app2sd flash borked. So I know a solution is possible to that last little bit of performance...

dkelley said:
everything's workign perfectly, no FCs, market's been fine for several versions now for most of us. everything except camera apps and certain specific graphics apps work great now.
neocore's broken, doesn't matter of course, same with quad, it's not relevant to anything. They're apps designed for certain operating system versions and hardware and the hero running gb doesn't fit the bill. those are are irrelevant apps that can be dismissed.
I play lots of games and they're working just great. all productivity and utility apps are great.
audio and multimedia stuff are fine too. not really sure where you were getting FCs but it sounds like it needed a new wipe and reflash possibly.
but then there's that strange thing were not every rom works on everyone's hero - I'll never know why, but I swear it's true
apps2sd and so on are working now (with a patch from elelinux). there's something that's slowing down the gui and animations still, and I accidentally had my gb phone running super fast in those areas when my app2sd flash borked. So I know a solution is possible to that last little bit of performance...
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Weird dude. I haven't had time to go through the thread but I will now and go again. I could swear I full factory reset and wiped everything.
I had a long week with kids but thanks, I wondered why it was so bad.... but it wasn't! And no mention of my probs!
Taxi for spike...
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spikey68 said:
Weird dude. I haven't had time to go through the thread but I will now and go again. I could swear I full factory reset and wiped everything.
I had a long week with kids but thanks, I wondered why it was so bad.... but it wasn't! And no mention of my probs!
Taxi for spike...
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haha - well hopefully it'll work better for you now than it did before. you will find slow gui screen animations at times though so it's worth disabling all of that and using launcherpro (if you can find launcherpro anywhere considering fede's rather frustrating emergency issue at the moment).

My launcher pro plus backup will work wont it?
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Why Are Custom Roms Worse Than Stock Roms?

i had installed a custom rom based on 6.5 on my hd2. its supposed to be a stripped down version of the stock rom, so its supposed to give longer battery and better performance. but its got terrible battery life, and camera and pictures look horrible. the stock rom gives batter cam and pics, and the battery is WAYYY better. can someone explain why this is so if this is supposed to be better than a stock rom?

koolxx said:
i had installed a custom rom based on 6.5 on my hd2. its supposed to be a stripped down version of the stock rom, so its supposed to give longer battery and better performance. but its got terrible battery life, and camera and pictures look horrible. the stock rom gives batter cam and pics, and the battery is WAYYY better. can someone explain why this is so if this is supposed to be better than a stock rom?
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First of all not mentioning which specific ROM doesn't help. Some are better than others. I also thought from other posts you were going WM7?
Just run Android. It turns the HD2 into a powerhouse.

digiholic said:
First of all not mentioning which specific ROM doesn't help. Some are better than others. I also thought from other posts you were going WM7?
Just run Android. It turns the HD2 into a powerhouse.
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hi, digiholic.. thanks for the reply. the rom i used was dutty's reference rom. i installed it and it looks good. but the camera and pictures look so dull that it looked horrible. and the batt life was a huge drain. but on a stock rom, the the batt life is better than the refernce rom. and the pics and cam are the best i've seen.. which is why i ask why is a customized rom worse than a stock rom?
and i installed 2 droid roms, gb 2.3 and cymod7, i think. and they suck. the call quality was staticy. the cam and camcorder were sluggish and dull looking, and the batt was horrible.
but i am wanting to install wp7.. as long as they are apps for what i need. for example, i'm l;ooking for a nyc subway app. i hope theres one for wp7.

koolxx said:
hi, digiholic.. thanks for the reply. the rom i used was dutty's reference rom. i installed it and it looks good. but the camera and pictures look so dull that it looked horrible. and the batt life was a huge drain. but on a stock rom, the the batt life is better than the refernce rom. and the pics and cam are the best i've seen.. which is why i ask why is a customized rom worse than a stock rom?
and i installed 2 droid roms, gb 2.3 and cymod7, i think. and they suck. the call quality was staticy. the cam and camcorder were sluggish and dull looking, and the batt was horrible.
but i am wanting to install wp7.. as long as they are apps for what i need. for example, i'm l;ooking for a nyc subway app. i hope theres one for wp7.
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I haven't had any of those problems with HyperdroidGBX. Only static I get in a call is from having the volume up too loud and that's not from the call. My cameras work fine and take good quality pics for a phone. Battery life is good... for Android.
I tend to go into all types of settings after a new install and tweak and optimize as much as possible so I might be getting better results.
I tried WM6.5 for half a day when I got the phone. Hated it so I rooted and ROM'd quickly. Can't attest to it's abilities. I am curious to test WM7 but Android does everything I need and more I don't know if I'll ever test it.

koolxx said:
i had installed a custom rom based on 6.5 on my hd2. its supposed to be a stripped down version of the stock rom, so its supposed to give longer battery and better performance. but its got terrible battery life, and camera and pictures look horrible. the stock rom gives batter cam and pics, and the battery is WAYYY better. can someone explain why this is so if this is supposed to be better than a stock rom?
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Sounds like this might be user error.

orangekid said:
Sounds like this might be user error.
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its not an error of the rom. the rom works, but its not optimized... and arent you the same guy that was trolling in my other threads? why are you following me around?

When i used wm 6.5 custom roms were always faster and looked better than stock, plus many of them were tweaked to work better

koolxx said:
Why Are Custom Roms Worse Than Stock Roms?
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If you think that you are either flashing a crap rom or you are on crack.
Stay away from WM6.5 and go for Android. Much better OS.

Richy99 said:
When i used wm 6.5 custom roms were always faster and looked better than stock, plus many of them were tweaked to work better
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i agree they do look better. but even after being tweaked theyre lacking. as least for me, the cam and batt life are horrible which i cant explain why. the pics look dreadful. i installed a custom rom last nite, played with it a bit, not much, and its down to 24% in batt.

TheATHEiST said:
If you think that you are either flashing a crap rom or you are on crack.
Stay away from WM6.5 and go for Android. Much better OS.
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i dont understand your little gibberish.
but anyway, i tried 2 droids and they suck. batt drain, camera had green lines, youtube vids looked dull.

koolxx said:
i dont understand your little gibberish.
but anyway, i tried 2 droids and they suck. batt drain, camera had green lines, youtube vids looked dull.
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Get tytungs NexusHD2 build, absolutely all of these problems don't exist.
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koolxx said:
its not an error of the rom. the rom works, but its not optimized... and arent you the same guy that was trolling in my other threads? why are you following me around?
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I had no idea you were the same dude who has been posting the various threads on porting iOS and running WP7 apps and now with why are custom ROMs bad.
It really sounds like you got the wrong phone.
Here's the deal:
All custom ROMs are different, just as all stock ROMs are different.
I personally hate the Stock WM6.5 ROM on the HD2, it is buggy, slower, and you can't really do much with it. Have a little fun if you are going to use WM6.5
Flash NRG or another custom ROM that really lets you have some fun with your device, maybe a CHT2 ROM that you can change all the UI elements and add widgets and other mods as well as some awesome themes and such.
Battery life depends on your radio, ROM, and settings, so anything could be the culprit there, you might try different radios.
I am not following you around and couldn't care less about where you go, you just happened to start 3 threads that I happened to to read and reply to the effect that you didn't even attempt to search or learn about the device before you posted, that was all.
I had no idea you started all 3 threads until I just read this response right now.
Either way, if you are actually serious about this thread, I would suggest you really try out some really good custom ROMs and be sure to flash task29 before switching ROMs because this will really eliminate latent NAND issues that could carry over to the next ROM.
My suggestion is the latest NRG 6.5.x sencity CHT2 ROM.
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for Android try running American Android from SD, everything works perfect for me on the latest build.

koolxx said:
i dont understand your little gibberish.
but anyway, i tried 2 droids and they suck. batt drain, camera had green lines, youtube vids looked dull.
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so you are comparing stick winmo 6.5 to android?

orangekid said:
I had no idea you were the same dude who has been posting the various threads on porting iOS and running WP7 apps and now with why are custom ROMs bad.
It really sounds like you got the wrong phone.
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1st of all, why do you say the hd2 is the wrong phone? its not the wrong phone. it just has the wrong software.
I personally hate the Stock WM6.5 ROM on the HD2, it is buggy, slower, and you can't really do much with it. Have a little fun if you are going to use WM6.5
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well, i can say that the stock rom is slower, but the batt life and camera and camcorder are far better than the customized roms.
Flash NRG or another custom ROM that really lets you have some fun with your device, maybe a CHT2 ROM that you can change all the UI elements and add widgets and other mods as well as some awesome themes and such.
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can you provide any links of what you recommend?
I am not following you around and couldn't care less about where you go, you just happened to start 3 threads that I happened to read and reply to the effect that you didn't even attempt to search or learn about the device before you posted, that was all.
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you were and i could care less what you do with your life as long as you dont harass. youre free to comment. but dont be a nuisance. i had a mod ban 2 people from the forum for acting up. and i'm a newbie. you shouldnt care if someone you dont know doesnt use the search function. and if that person doesnt, why should you care? if you dont like a thread, dont comment on it.. its that simple. but youre free to comment as long as you respect others and abide by forum rules.
if you are actually serious about this thread, I would suggest you really try out some really good custom ROMs and be sure to flash task29 before switching ROMs because this will really eliminate latent NAND issues that could carry over to the next ROM.
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of course i'm serious about this thread... why would i waste my time creating it?
My suggestion is the latest NRG 6.5.x sencity CHT2 ROM.
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i'll definitely check it out.
for Android try running American Android from SD, everything works perfect for me on the latest build.
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i tried 2 droid roms and they fell very short of my expectations. and they were highly recommended by others. i just dont want to sell my hd2 yet since its a great phone.. but if if i cant find a good rom for it, i got no choice but to sell it.
i'll try installing WP7 tonite and see how is goes.

Richy99 said:
so you are comparing stick winmo 6.5 to android?
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and whats wrong with comparing stock 6.5 to android? ive said it before.. i installed 2 highly recommended droids on my hd2. and they did look good.. but they were slow, the cam was blurry with a green background and when moving the cam, it wasnt smooth, and the batt life was horrible.
on the stock rom, i didnt have these issues at all. dont get me wrong.. the stock rom is a bit slow.. but the above issues were not as prevalent as on android. and i got to go with my experiences as a base for judging the roms.

koolxx said:
i had a mod ban 2 people from the forum for acting up.
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You had a mod ban 2 people? Since when can forum members have mods ban people? I didn't think xda worked that way.
koolxx said:
but youre free to comment as long as you respect others and abide by forum rules.
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Thanks you for your permission, I will ensure I do not cross you lest I suffer the consequences.
As far as flashing WP7, try one of the new NoDo ROMs and remember you can actually dual-boot the ROM I suggested from your SD card. So upon booting you can choose WP7 or Android depending on your needs that day.

koolxx said:
and whats wrong with comparing stock 6.5 to android? ive said it before.. i installed 2 highly recommended droids on my hd2. and they did look good.. but they were slow, the cam was blurry with a green background and when moving the cam, it wasnt smooth, and the batt life was horrible.
on the stock rom, i didnt have these issues at all. dont get me wrong.. the stock rom is a bit slow.. but the above issues were not as prevalent as on android. and i got to go with my experiences as a base for judging the roms.
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because you cannot compare an operating system that has drivers specifically written for that device and compare it to a hacked ported operating system, you have not compared a stock rom to a custom rom, if you are going to compare them please use a winmo6.5 rom not android!
that would be like comparing windows on a pc compared to running a hacked drivers vedrsion of windows in a mac

orangekid said:
As far as flashing WP7, try one of the new NoDo ROMs and remember you can actually dual-boot the ROM I suggested from your SD card. So upon booting you can choose WP7 or Android depending on your needs that day.
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ok, now we're making progress.. and thanks for the reply. you mentioned installing the new NoDo rom for WP7. does this new rom possess live services and marketplace? i read somewhere that WP7 roms dont have that.. but you can enable them with some hack. i want a rom equipped with services and marketplace without having to ruin the hack.. too tedious.
but i dont want to dual boot.. anyway. let me know... thanks.

koolxx said:
ok, now we're making progress.. and thanks for the reply. you mentioned installing the new NoDo rom for WP7. does this new rom possess live services and marketplace? i read somewhere that WP7 roms dont have that.. but you can enable them with some hack. i want a rom equipped with services and marketplace without having to ruin the hack.. too tedious.
but i dont want to dual boot.. anyway. let me know... thanks.
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you will probably have to contact M$ to get a code to enable the live services

koolxx said:
ok, now we're making progress.. and thanks for the reply. you mentioned installing the new NoDo rom for WP7. does this new rom possess live services and marketplace? i read somewhere that WP7 roms dont have that.. but you can enable them with some hack. i want a rom equipped with services and marketplace without having to ruin the hack.. too tedious.
but i dont want to dual boot.. anyway. let me know... thanks.
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Richy99 said:
you will probably have to contact M$ to get a code to enable the live services
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Yes, you call MS and say you're running WP7 and need an activation code. They will give it to you, you then enter it into your phone and Live Services work just fine.
All custom ROMs are pre-configured with the "hack" and other settings. You just need the activation code from MS. This is the same process someone who has to hard-reset an HD7 would have to go thru.
Dual-Boot is pretty easy, you just stick a ROM on your SD card and choose to boot that if you want, it actually is pretty simple.

Sense 3.5/3.0 compared to 2.1

I am currently running NilsP Business Sense 2.1/3.0 and i was wondering what performence hit i'd take if i plunged straight to 3.5? I used early 3.0 ROMS and they were painfully slow.. I was wondering if they were the same now.

My 3.0 rom is fast. Just doesn't sound like there's a whole lot more to a 3.5 than a 3.0 so I couldn't tell you my experiance as far as speed with 3.5.
Nils Business gingersense 3.0 v2.1

Sorry, but ALL Sense 3.x ROMs drag sorry ass on this device. There's no way to get around it. The software is just too muscular for the device. You end up with a crazy amount of vm being used, and since NAND memory is some pretty slow stuff, the lag becomes something best measured in full seconds.

^^ what he said.
and anyone who claims their 3.0/3.5 roms run "super fast" and "lag free" must never have run a stock incredible lol because the stock inc is how this phone is supposed to run (sense 1.0)...sense 3 is waaaaaaay too laggy. the one thing that always pissed me off is the notification dropdown menu lag. sometimes it would take up to 5 seconds for mine to drop down, even when i was just idling doing nothing. very annoying.

The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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smtom said:
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.

I thought Joel's Sense 3.0 ROM on this was crazy fast. Then I used a 3.0 ROM on my inc2. Big difference. At the stock clock speed my phone still has no lag on my current 3.5 ROM.

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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.

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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.

loonatik78 said:
I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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Thanks.
Hope my nose doesn't turn to brown here, but I gotta say I always look forward to your comments and incite on things. Its always something good. I'm nervous that your gonna try my Rom even, lol. But for real I hope you like it. And as always, I look forward to your 'real' input on it.

Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Tzatlacael said:
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.

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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Tzatlacael said:
I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Are you using Conap's Boot Manager?

I this k many of the left over issues present in these roms aren't necessarily the dev abandoning it, but rather they can't fix it, either because it would take too much time or they don't know how/can't figure it out. MMS over Wifi is a big one on the 2.1/3.0 hybrids. I've seen many devs try to fix it but they just can't.
Like Stang said, once a rom reaches Nearly Flawless state, which is everything is fixed minus the persistent issues across all similar based roms, its development is completed. These people don't get paid to sit for hours to make every little thing work on our phone.
I think this fact causes frustration among users, that life isn't kittens and rainbows and we can't have the latest and greatest working like a champ on our aging hardware. Its not the devs fault guys.
Choose CM7 or a sense 1.0 rom if you want stability and speed. Anything else will always have little issues that frustrate you.
As for me, I like to use one of these newer roms until I get frustrated by these little issues, then go back to CM7/1.0, then once I'm bored with that I go back to a newer sense rom... Rinse and repeat
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ok, so I'm running a 3.0 sense rom in the Nils rom I have. There is no lag between home sections. (I don't have the 3d tilt accelerometer feature on of course) and as for the pull down, I will agree, sometimes it does lag, but I hardly ever use the pull down anyway, and my case doesn't make it easy to pull down anyway. I usually go through the menu button/notifications to have the pull down come down. Other than that...what lag is this you speak of? I also don't run a live wallpaper very much in order to help out the battery life a little as well. So maybe thats where some lag people are speaking of is being caused?
Maybe its just me, but I'm not experiancing heavy lag with my 3.0 rom and I am even running the latest kernel. I will agree however, if you want the fastest most optimized rom for a dinc, then get a stock rom of course. But the 3.0 rom I'm running is running smooth.

I'm Running Nil's Sense 3.5, and I love it!!
(if you have tried other Roms, make sure you follow his whole wipe guide in his Sense 3.5 post 1)
I love the speed of this rom! If you are happy with 3.0, stick with it, but I love the way the email looks and works in 3.5 (it's a little snappier, and allows for more customization)
While his 3.0 was pretty fast, I find 3.5 to be just that much faster.
Plus, gets even faster if you use Tiny's Kernel!
but when you compare either 3.0 or 3.5 against 1.0... 1.0 just sucks!

wildstang83 said:
[insert name here] released Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile.
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?

PonsAsinorem said:
I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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Sure its right here, lol--->

I'm using Nils 3.5, and while there is some lag here and there, its a good, stable, and fairly snappy ROM. I also have V6 Supercharger (way aggressive) and the GingerTiny kernel, and that helps.
Maybe I'm just not expecting as much...I knew it would be slower than stock, but I feel its worth it for the enhancements.
But, to each his (or her!) own.
Sent from my Droid Inc - GingerSense style!

[POLL] Which is the smoothest one?

I have been using Wolf's GB ROM for 10 days now.
It is not only really smoother than stock SE GB rom, but also so stable. Really, it was a child's play for me to install it (actually it was also my first custom ROM) just like using a stock rom..
Now,
I'm happy with this rom at the moment but i want to try a couple more roms. I'm a little bit obsessed about smoothness of the phone.
Which one would you chose as the smoothest if you have to?
Please answer the poll if you have tried at least two of them..
Further reviews, ups and downs and advices are accepted..
1. Wolfs TW Gingerbread ROM
2. Blue Sparks
3. VMOD V5
4. ThGo2
5. Cyanogenmod

First of all, you forgot T.E.A.M. ROM in the poll.
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Really, it was a child's play for me to install it (actually it was also my first custom ROM) just like using a stock rom..
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That's the case with all custom ROMs, installing them is as simple as flashing one or two zips in recovery.
I find that installing a custom ROM is actually simpler than flashing stock with SEUS/PC Companion/FlashTool.
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I'm happy with this rom at the moment but i want to try a couple more roms. I'm a little bit obsessed about smoothness of the phone.
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In my humble opinion, which is based on experience since I myself am working on tweaking stock SE ROM for the past 4 months or so, a stock-based ROM is, at the end of the day, a modified but still stock ROM.
Granted there are the popular "tweaks" which are basically scripts that run on startup to optimise mostly the internal Android task killer and/or some kernel parameters, etc. The very core of the ROM, in most, if not all, cases remains the same. That way, my advice is to find a ROM that combines an acceptable by your personal taste level of "smoothness" (which is a purely relevant term, as it cannot be measured accurately), graphical enviroment and features.
Each user will probably give you a different answer because user experience may differ due to countless factors (apps installed, general way and purpose of using the phone). Gamers would mostly prefer a "stripped" ROM with minimal apps to leave them with space and memory for intense gaming. IMers (people using the phone mainly to communicate by mail, SMS, instant-messaging) will most of the times not notice performance improvements between ROMs because said apps are generally light-weight.
For a totally different experience, for example, Cyanogen could very well be your answer.
It is by default much smoother to SE ROMs, alas there might be things missing or not working at all, along with certain inconveniences.
So, it all comes down to what you want to do with your phone and what you feel is better. As with everything in life, obsession is never a good thing. At the end of the day, you want to be using your phone and not flashing it and setting it up from scratch every other day, right? And, let me say, that a poll will never help you as much as flashing and using the ROMs yourself.
Good luck!

Agreed...
cyanogen is great because it uses minimal system resources. It is a nice light, basic alternative, and therefore is quite fast.

As usual Iris explained it so well that a further answer isn´t really neccesary
Just a few summarised words; When you prefer a ROm where everything is working choose a ROM based on stock because just there everything is working especially the camera. Just there you have the Sony Ericcson camera app where you have features that aren´t available in real Custom ROMS.
In this case I can recommend you T.E.A.M Rom. It is very fast, beautiful and the support is awesome. But yeah....Iris mentioned that, too
When your priority isn´t the camera but best battery life and smoothness I can recommend you Tatsuo´s CM7 ROM running with his own kernel.

And where is MIUI? I happy with this ROM

iridaki said:
First of all, you forgot T.E.A.M. ROM in the poll.
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Definitely!
iridaki said:
At the end of the day, you want to be using your phone and not flashing it and setting it up from scratch every other day, right?
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Uhm, ... wrong. I want to flash and set it up every other day, sometimes even 2-3 times a day
Admitted, my desire to flash is greatly reduced since I use T.E.A.M ROM. But FXP046 will be a definite go for me and hell, I LOVE to play with many different ROMs. I have to admit that I reduced the apps I always install to a minimum and only install more apps if I plan to stay a little longer (--> T.E.A.M).
So, seeing it from this point of view, I make the worst out of my smartphone because I rarely can use its full potential. But who cares, flashing is fun